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au_gold
06/07/19 4:40:51 PM
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You might wanna think about changing the name to X-Women.

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spudger
06/07/19 4:41:44 PM
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placation on the verge of condescention
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darkphoenix181
06/07/19 4:42:28 PM
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nuSape
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Guide
06/07/19 4:43:22 PM
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Vacation on the verge of condensation, bring an umbrella
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Zikten
06/07/19 4:46:50 PM
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all mutants are equal. inserting gender arguements into the xmen defeats the whole point of the xmen. in the comics t hey would never say that dumb line. mutants stand together. also the men in xmen refers to mankind, as in the human species, not the gender of male. its the same as like in Lord of the Rings where "men" is humans. not a gender.
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Phewfus
06/07/19 4:48:38 PM
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Quick Silver saving everybody when the mansion explodes doesn't count I guess.
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darkphoenix181
06/07/19 4:49:23 PM
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Zikten posted...
all mutants are equal. inserting gender arguements into the xmen defeats the whole point of the xmen. in the comics t hey would never say that dumb line. mutants stand together. also the men in xmen refers to mankind, as in the human species, not the gender of male. its the same as like in Lord of the Rings where "men" is humans. not a gender.


Ironically, x-man in gender sense would imply someone who used to be a man and is now a woman or something else

X-woman would imply someone who was a woman but is now a man or something else
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Gobstoppers12
06/07/19 4:52:38 PM
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On one hand: I have no problem with strong female characters. I love Wonder Woman, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Valkyrie, Gamora, Nebula, Storm, Jean (usually), etc...

But on the other hand, obvious "girl power" dialogue like the referenced quote above drives me insane. It's so heavy handed that it knocks me right the fuck out of the film and it takes me a few minutes to get back into the spirit of it. When you can obviously hear a writer speaking through a character, saying things the character wouldn't naturally say, it's one of the most obnoxious things in the world.
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au_gold
06/07/19 9:50:39 PM
#9:


Keep in mind, a man wrote this dialogue.
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spudger
06/07/19 10:13:51 PM
#10:


au_gold posted...
Keep in mind, a man wrote this dialogue.

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au_gold
06/07/19 10:49:30 PM
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Dude, hes the writer and director. Of course hes getting laid.
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Skye Reynolds
06/07/19 10:54:21 PM
#12:


Whoever said they should change the name to X-JWs was right.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/07/19 11:09:38 PM
#13:


Bandwagon morality
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au_gold
06/08/19 6:56:30 PM
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So empowering.
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WizardofHoth
06/08/19 7:05:46 PM
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Mystique being a bit of a hypocrite when she herself didnt believe in the future but she did shady stuff like shapeshift into Stryker to put Logan in the Weapon X project early for no reason. She didnt even know Logan except for maybe like a second when Logan went with Eric and Xavier to go get Mystique at that one place Trask was at with his little mutant tracker beeper thing
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EndOfDiscOne
06/08/19 7:16:40 PM
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The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.
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AmericaTheBrave
06/08/19 7:20:27 PM
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au_gold posted...
Keep in mind, a soyboy wrote this dialogue.


Fixed that for you.
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The_Ivory_Man
06/08/19 7:22:57 PM
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I like how Mystique went from a complete psychopath who just wanted humans to live in fear while her only her only lasting relationship was with Destiny another mutant.

To being a perfect did nothing wrong martyr in the films who only turned bad (briefly) because she wanted to bone Magneto.
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Zikten
06/08/19 7:59:37 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.

No. The line degrades what X-Men represent and misses the entire point. Shows the script writer doesn't even understand what X-Men is about

Mutants are not sexist and they don't care about gender
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knuxnole
06/08/19 8:09:52 PM
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Zikten posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.

No. The line degrades what X-Men represent and misses the entire point. Shows the script writer doesn't even understand what X-Men is about

Mutants are not sexist and they don't care about gender


Yes they do, if you read the comics
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Zack_Attackv1
06/08/19 8:14:08 PM
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So instead of dropping out with a compelling tale, Fox Studios decides to go out with a political statement?

That's pathetic.
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Kajagogo
06/08/19 8:14:17 PM
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Cyclops saves Rogue from Sabretooth

Cyclops saves Jean Grey from Toad's slime

Nightcrawler saved Rogue from falling out of the jet

Wolverine saved Jean Grey from herself

Wolverine died to save X-23

Xavier saves Moira from Magneto

Quicksilver saves everyone in the mansion
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CanuckCowboy
06/08/19 8:14:48 PM
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X-force
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Zikten
06/08/19 8:14:54 PM
#24:


knuxnole posted...
Zikten posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.

No. The line degrades what X-Men represent and misses the entire point. Shows the script writer doesn't even understand what X-Men is about

Mutants are not sexist and they don't care about gender


Yes they do, if you read the comics

Which stories show sexism? Apparently I haven't read the right ones. But also it depends on who is writing. The original vision as created by Stan Lee's is none gender caring. All mutants are meant to be equal and stand together
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knuxnole
06/08/19 8:40:20 PM
#25:


Zikten posted...
knuxnole posted...
Zikten posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.

No. The line degrades what X-Men represent and misses the entire point. Shows the script writer doesn't even understand what X-Men is about

Mutants are not sexist and they don't care about gender


Yes they do, if you read the comics

Which stories show sexism? Apparently I haven't read the right ones. But also it depends on who is writing. The original vision as created by Stan Lee's is none gender caring. All mutants are meant to be equal and stand together


Its very male centric tbh
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Sada_Pop
06/08/19 9:11:50 PM
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That line was hilarious. Got a big reaction from my theater.
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The_Ivory_Man
06/08/19 10:29:45 PM
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knuxnole posted...
Zikten posted...
knuxnole posted...
Zikten posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The usual suspects feel threatened by strong women. The line is great.

No. The line degrades what X-Men represent and misses the entire point. Shows the script writer doesn't even understand what X-Men is about

Mutants are not sexist and they don't care about gender


Yes they do, if you read the comics

Which stories show sexism? Apparently I haven't read the right ones. But also it depends on who is writing. The original vision as created by Stan Lee's is none gender caring. All mutants are meant to be equal and stand together


Its very male centric tbh


For the Lee and Kirby run I would agree.

After that, it is pretty equal.

Claremont was pretty good on that front, he was just laughably unsubtle and puts his feitshes in everywhere, which is a little uncomfortable while rereading.
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au_gold
06/08/19 10:54:23 PM
#28:


Is it worse than Mutant and proud?
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The_Ivory_Man
06/08/19 11:07:11 PM
#29:


au_gold posted...
Is it worse than Mutant and proud?


Hey, imagine if Shadowcat said this in the films?

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DarkProto05
06/08/19 11:16:33 PM
#30:


Nothing wrong with the line. It's good humor. Now if they actually changed the name "X-Men" to something else, that's just stupid.
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dave_is_slick
06/08/19 11:18:36 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
The line is great.

It's not.
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AmericaTheBrave
06/08/19 11:19:29 PM
#32:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
au_gold posted...
Is it worse than Mutant and proud?


Hey, imagine if Shadowcat said this in the films?

y5pJSHo


What the hell
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slmcknett
06/08/19 11:23:13 PM
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That panel can't be real
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WizardofHoth
06/08/19 11:24:52 PM
#34:


yes that panel is real. Kitty does get a bit racist in those old Uncanny X-Men issues.

Funny that shes buddies with Storm and Stevie the black gymnast trainer and she gets away with calling street punks a name
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s0nicfan
06/08/19 11:25:51 PM
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We're at peak cynical marketing where every blockbuster needs at least one cringy progressive line to stir up endless free publicity as everyone online argues about it.
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Zikten
06/08/19 11:28:58 PM
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It's not that kitty is racist. She's making a point. A point that would get her suspended on gamefaqs but..... The point is that he just called her a Mutie. In the marvel world, Mutie is just as bad as the N word. It's literally the mutant n word

And that man is black so she is showing him that he is doing to her what racist people do to him
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au_gold
06/10/19 3:37:34 AM
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Im sure the MCU can find a tasteful way to portray that panel.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/10/19 3:40:26 AM
#38:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
au_gold posted...
Is it worse than Mutant and proud?


Hey, imagine if Shadowcat said this in the films?

y5pJSHo

Holy shit that is some serious racism from Shadow Cat.
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spikethedevil
06/10/19 3:47:02 AM
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Zikten posted...
It's not that kitty is racist. She's making a point. A point that would get her suspended on gamefaqs but..... The point is that he just called her a Mutie. In the marvel world, Mutie is just as bad as the N word. It's literally the mutant n word

And that man is black so she is showing him that he is doing to her what racist people do to him


Pretty much this.
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Zikten
06/10/19 6:03:02 AM
#40:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
au_gold posted...
Is it worse than Mutant and proud?


Hey, imagine if Shadowcat said this in the films?

y5pJSHo

Holy shit that is some serious racism from Shadow Cat.

No it's not. Like I explained, she is making a point. The guy literally just called her Mutie. People who think she's racist clearly don't understand the role of mutants in society, what Mutie means or ever saw the other part of that comic outside that one panel.

You guys should look up that incident and see how it played out in the comic. kitty is not racist.
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Zikten
06/10/19 6:05:06 AM
#41:


au_gold posted...
Im sure the MCU can find a tasteful way to portray that panel.

No they can't. That was a very important scene in the comics but there is no way they could ever do it in a movie. People would ignore the point, freak out over one word, miss the irony that they are doing the same thing as the man Kitty was teaching the message to....and call for Marvel's downfall
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EndOfDiscOne
06/10/19 5:35:14 PM
#42:


Zikten posted...
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
au_gold posted...
Is it worse than Mutant and proud?


Hey, imagine if Shadowcat said this in the films?

y5pJSHo

Holy shit that is some serious racism from Shadow Cat.

No it's not. Like I explained, she is making a point. The guy literally just called her Mutie. People who think she's racist clearly don't understand the role of mutants in society, what Mutie means or ever saw the other part of that comic outside that one panel.

You guys should look up that incident and see how it played out in the comic. kitty is not racist.

She said the word with a hard R. She's racist.
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Doe
06/10/19 5:36:16 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
She said the word with a hard R. She's racist.

So it would be fine if she used a soft A? LOL
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Awesome
06/10/19 5:39:53 PM
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women

woman

men

man

human

mankind

x-men

x-man

man = human race, not just one gender/sex

but no thats so hard for these feminists to understand
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EndOfDiscOne
06/10/19 5:42:07 PM
#45:


Doe posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
She said the word with a hard R. She's racist.

So it would be fine if she used a soft A? LOL

With a soft A I could maybe forgive her if she had a really good public apology. The hard R is inexcusable.
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spikethedevil
06/10/19 6:30:51 PM
#46:


The movie really isn't that bad tbh.
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Zikten
06/10/19 7:05:30 PM
#47:


That man is a fierce racist too then.

Mutie is the worst thing you can call a mutant. It's just as bad as the N word

And just so you know I think I remember that story ends with the black man apologizing to Kitty. I think he knew Kitty before and then he lashes out at her cause she defends some mutants that pissed him off

Also she is not just a mutant she is also Jewish. She is well placed to explain racism to this man
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au_gold
06/10/19 9:09:43 PM
#48:


spikethedevil posted...
The movie really isn't that bad tbh.

Its pretty bad.
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rexcrk
06/10/19 9:17:13 PM
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Honestly I hope they put that line in just to upset the fragile males
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au_gold
06/12/19 1:42:05 AM
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Im sure they did.
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