Current Events > Kojima: "Death Stranding is of the social strand genre"

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https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1136074622711975936?s=21

Sigh

Guess this will be your put up or shut up game huh Kojima

Can anyone actually tell me how this fucking game plays

I saw the new trailer and this question still hasn't been answered satisfactorily yet
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So it's multiplayer?

FFVII_REMAKE posted...

So it's multiplayer?

Who fucking knows man
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Who cares? Its going to be amazing.
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I dont think anyone has had any hands on experience with this "game" yet. With Sony bowing out of E3 I doubt it will be on the floor.
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action connection... QTE?
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It's multiplayer. If the idea is that people are meant to be connected

Zodd3224 posted...

Who cares? Its going to be amazing.

MGSV had one of the greatest game trailers ever and look how deceptive it was to the actual game
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Its multiplayer the same way TPPs FOBs were

So its not
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Guys, it's so simple...you make ladders appear out of thin air, equip your baby batteries, then dodge hazmat teams on motorcycles to deliver some mail. Fetal position DLC is extra.
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So like Kirby's Epic Yarn?
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...

So it's multiplayer?

Some of us are fearing that as online seems to be integrated into the game.
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The crazier description the better
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Leave it to Kojima to think he's inventing a new genre
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Who cares? Its going to be amazing.

MGSV had one of the greatest game trailers ever and look how deceptive it was to the actual game

As someone who remembers that trailer quite clearly but has never played a MGS game, how was it deceptive? I remember it as an open world stealth thing.
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What hes trying to say is, Someone challenged me to make a game that is even more disappointing than MGSV was.

Im not one to turn down a challenge.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Who cares? Its going to be amazing.

MGSV had one of the greatest game trailers ever and look how deceptive it was to the actual game

Actual game was great so
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I've watched trailers, heard people talk about it, read articles... I still don't know what this game is suppose to be.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

I've watched trailers, heard people talk about it, read articles... I still don't know what this game is suppose to be.

It's about ethics in game journalism.
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Guide posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Who cares? Its going to be amazing.

MGSV had one of the greatest game trailers ever and look how deceptive it was to the actual game

Actual game was great so

Actual game is fantastic. No deception there.
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I think it's quite obvious.

They've already mentioned it's an action adventure/horror game that heavily focuses on area connections. You travel from area to area setting up connections that allow for improving and developing new quests and activities all the while avoiding the many dangers you'll face. Think of it as Mass Effect 2/3 with way less RPGing and a new "stranding" feature.

Sure, we don't know the plot yet, but why the fuck would we? The game isn't out, would you rather be spoiled? I don't understand people that complain just for the sake of complaining.
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its supposed to come out EOY 2019?

yikes
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Im going to buy this game, but, i want to go on record as saying it looks stupid, and so far up its own ass.

I love (most of) the MGS series and am buying soley based on that.

I am fully expecting to hate this stupid, stupid game
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eston posted...

Leave it to Kojima to think he's inventing a new genre

This, lol.

In the last decade or so, Kojima has been like a baby lion who thinks he's big and bad, and the harder he tries to prove it, the more adorable and endearing he becomes lol.

He's like Japanese Shaq or something at this point.
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So what's the excuse gonna be when this disappoints? Sony rushed him and forced the bad bits?
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Shablagoo posted...

What hes trying to say is, Someone challenged me to make a game that is even more disappointing than MGSV was.

Im not one to turn down a challenge.

Blightzkrieg posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

Who cares? Its going to be amazing.

MGSV had one of the greatest game trailers ever and look how deceptive it was to the actual game

As someone who remembers that trailer quite clearly but has never played a MGS game, how was it deceptive? I remember it as an open world stealth thing.

I was promised a gripping revenge tale and instead I got lectures on languages and digressions on hamburgers

J03can posted...

Im going to buy this game, but, i want to go on record as saying it looks stupid, and so far up its own ass.

I love (most of) the MGS series and am buying soley based on that.

I am fully expecting to hate this stupid, stupid game

That's fair

Most of the Twitter responses are straight up slurping though
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Action adventure third person shooting game with an asynchronous multiplayer aspect. Gonna be sick.
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Watch this be MGS6 in disguise the whole time.

Kojima faked his own firing.
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DevsBro posted...

eston posted...

Leave it to Kojima to think he's inventing a new genre

This, lol.

In the last decade or so, Kojima has been like a baby lion who thinks he's big and bad, and the harder he tries to prove it, the more adorable and endearing he becomes lol.

He's like Japanese Shaq or something at this point.

But can he rap?

the answer is probably
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DevsBro posted...

Watch this be MGS6 in disguise the whole time.

Kojima faked his own firing.

Kojima faked being a good director
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Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.
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50Blessings posted...

DevsBro posted...

Watch this be MGS6 in disguise the whole time.

Kojima faked his own firing.

Kojima faked being a good director

He definitely peaked with MGS1.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.

Ghost Recon Wildlands literally did the whole "open world stealth or action mission based gameplay" thing better only two years later

The only thing MGSV has in comparison is a dog with a knife and a horse that can poop
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.

Ghost Recon Wildlands literally did the whole "open world stealth or action mission based gameplay" thing better only two years later

Lol no, maybe had a more diverse open world but the gameplay doesn't even touch MGSV's.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.

Ghost Recon Wildlands literally did the whole "open world stealth or action mission based gameplay" thing better only two years later

Lol no, maybe had a more diverse open world but the gameplay doesn't even touch MGSV's.

Coop tho
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Smashingpmkns posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.

Ghost Recon Wildlands literally did the whole "open world stealth or action mission based gameplay" thing better only two years later

Lol no, maybe had a more diverse open world but the gameplay doesn't even touch MGSV's.

Ghost Recon lets you do any mission without boarding and leaving a helicopter every time, in MGSV that's only possible with Extra Ops and a handful of story missions.

You can go loud or go silent with no penalty or punishment, long as the mission is done. In MGSV you can kill but you better finish that mission 60 seconds later to get an S rank

Weapon selection is markedly more vast and actually based on real-world guns.

The open world actually has things to collect and do. Not just roaming from base to base

Your liberation of certain regions can be seen and benefited from. No enemies respawning at a base you just utterly destroyed in the last mission

All MGSV let you do is be more creative with the horse/box/dog. The actual practical techniques to complete missions can be listed on one hand
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Wasn't he kicked out midway through mgsv development?

Why is everyone acting like mgsv means he makes bad games?
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I always felt this is the spiritual successor to Snatchers/Policenauts.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Wasn't he kicked out midway through mgsv development?

Why is everyone acting like mgsv means he makes bad games?

He was never kicked out.

His production studio was changed like 6 months before release.

When the game should be done and getting polished
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Wasn't he kicked out midway through mgsv development?

Why is everyone acting like mgsv means he makes bad games?

MGSV was incomplete and it STILL is the 19th most expensive game ever developed

Konami partially was to blame but it's not hard to imagine they were getting annoyed he was taking so long with things like horse pooping and actual rock climbing mo-cap despite there being like 4 actual places you can climb in the game

Apparently he blew most of the budget on that cinematic hospital intro too
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This one might finally dethrone Unravel 2 as my favorite social stand game of all time.
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Remember when Kojima copied MG2 and just made it 3D for MGS?

Remember when he stole the twist from Empire Strikes Back for MGS?

Remember when Kojima literally handwaved all explanations with nanomachones?

Remember when Kojima literally copy pasted Snakes sidekick for his copy paste father?

Remember when Kojima couldn't come up with names so he named two characters "peace", named a scientist "strangelove" after a movie he stole themes from and "diamond dogs" after an album he liked?

Remember when he copy pasted the twist of MGS2 for MGSV?

Best in the business.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Smh Kojima has still yet to make a bad game. Say what you want about MGSV's story, it still has the best gameplay in a third person action game.

Ghost Recon Wildlands literally did the whole "open world stealth or action mission based gameplay" thing better only two years later

Lol no, maybe had a more diverse open world but the gameplay doesn't even touch MGSV's.

Ghost Recon lets you do any mission without boarding and leaving a helicopter every time, in MGSV that's only possible with Extra Ops and a handful of story missions.

You can go loud or go silent with no penalty or punishment, long as the mission is done. In MGSV you can kill but you better finish that mission 60 seconds later to get an S rank

Weapon selection is markedly more vast and actually based on real-world guns.

The open world actually has things to collect and do. Not just roaming from base to base

Your liberation of certain regions can be seen and benefited from. No enemies respawning at a base you just utterly destroyed in the last mission

All MGSV let you do is be more creative with the horse/box/dog. The actual practical techniques to complete missions can be listed on one hand

Lol all of these things don't make Wildlands a better game. And most of them are ass pulled reasons. Hell, it having more weapons isn't even a pro when they still dont have as much variety in the 50+ weapons than MGSV has in the 25+ weapons.

MGSV gave the player the freedom to approach every situation in dozens of different ways. Wildlands maybe gives you 2 or 3 really different ways. The same you complain about the "practical techniques" could be said about literally every Ubisoft game, including Wildlands. why not just go through 80% of that game just using the drone and the overpowered timed team shots?
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Lol all of these things don't make Wildlands a better game. And most of them are ass pulled reasons.

They certainly make it a better game than MGSV. If all you have for MGSV is "freedom" then I don't think you actually played Wildlands. MGSV forces you to make your own fun.

MGS5's weapons are all run of the mill stuff, shotguns, rifles, snipers, tranq and non-lethal versions of those aforementioned weapons, except they don't even have any brands to probably save on licensing. You can't even wield Snake's M1911 anymore. This is a far cry from Peace Walker, which is the real MGSV tbqh

Smashingpmkns posted...

MGSV gave the player the freedom to approach every situation in dozens of different ways. Wildlands maybe gives you 2 or 3 really different ways. The same you complain about the "practical techniques" could be said about literally every Ubisoft game, including Wildlands.

Again, did you actually play the game or did you just see some gameplay footage and made your conclusion? Or does a cardboard box add 9 different ways all of a sudden?

Smashingpmkns posted...

why not just go through 80% of that game just using the drone and the overpowered timed team shots?

Oh you mean the same way I can tag and blaze through an entire enemy base in a few minutes with D-Dog wearing a sneaking suit?

MGSV prides itself on goofy strategies. Most of the tactics are either standard MGS stuff (stun enemy, drag away to hide, tranq everyone) or goofy shit like wormhole fultons, letting a guard slip on horse poop and stunning an enemy with your rocket arm. Funny you mention team shots as OP when all they do is tag enemies in co-op for your friends to take out. Meanwhile apparently Quiet is totally okay though

I have 85 hours in MGSV dawg. Most of it wasn't very fun.
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Name five different ways to approach Over the Fence
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DRM bullcrap

omg no
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

They certainly make it a better game than MGSV. If all you have for MGSV is "freedom" then I don't think you actually played Wildlands. MGSV forces you to make your own fun.

No it gives you the options to approach every mission as you choose.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Again, did you actually play the game or did you just see some gameplay footage and made your conclusion? Or does a cardboard box add 9 different ways all of a sudden?

Yup completed both games. And there's plenty more variety in approaching each situation in MGSV than there is in Wildlands despite it having more weapons.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Oh you mean the same way I can tag and blaze through an entire enemy base in a few minutes with D-Dog wearing a sneaking suit?

Completely missing the point here. If you're just talking about practicality then you only have 1 or 2 ways to beat most Ubisoft games. Wildlands = drone and timed shot. Assassin's Creed = angled poison dart/knife etc. Those are the easiest and most practical ways to get through the majority of both games.
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50Blessings posted...

Name five different ways to approach Over the Fence

That's kind of difficult, because the approach is so amorphous. Like, to actually answer this properly, I'd need to draw lines of routing on the map, then explain the differences, and then have consideration for guard routes.

Simple request, data-dense answer.
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