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DarkRoast 06/04/19 5:52:37 PM #102:	karlpilkington4 posted... spudger posted... radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird. I only enter discussions on things that I know to be right (or strongly believe to be). Being contrarian for contrarians sake is not what I do. Only fools are certain. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922790284] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird.</quote> I only enter discussions on things that I know to be right (or strongly believe to be). Being contrarian for contrarians sake is not what I do.</quote> Only fools are certain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/04/19 5:55:46 PM #104:	DarkRoast posted... spudger posted... radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird. He's pretty dedicated. Even I have my limits. super dedicated. if it wasn't so annoying i'd be impressed. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:922790404] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird.</quote> He's pretty dedicated. Even I have my limits.</quote> super dedicated. if it wasn't so annoying i'd be impressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 5:56:06 PM #105:	DarkRoast posted... karlpilkington4 posted... spudger posted... radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird. I only enter discussions on things that I know to be right (or strongly believe to be). Being contrarian for contrarians sake is not what I do. Only fools are certain. I'm pretty certain the sky is blue, that the earth is round, flossing is healthy, etc. Give me evidence that convinces me otherwise, and I will change my mind, but until then, I'm going to be pretty fucking certain of certain things. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922790416] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird.</quote> I only enter discussions on things that I know to be right (or strongly believe to be). Being contrarian for contrarians sake is not what I do.</quote> Only fools are certain.</quote> I'm pretty certain the sky is blue, that the earth is round, flossing is healthy, etc. Give me evidence that convinces me otherwise, and I will change my mind, but until then, I'm going to be pretty fucking certain of certain things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 5:56:18 PM #106:	karlpilkington4 posted... "You have to buy a membership so you're in the red" Do they still pay you when you sell their products? "Yes" No. They literally don't. karlpilkington4 posted... And the majority of MLM companies give you a special link to send your customers when they buy online. You don't need to buy the product to sell it. That's blatantly false as a MLM standard. Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922790424] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>"You have to buy a membership so you're in the red" Do they still pay you when you sell their products? "Yes"</quote> No. They literally don't. <cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>And the majority of MLM companies give you a special link to send your customers when they buy online. You don't need to buy the product to sell it. That's blatantly false as a MLM standard.</quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 06/04/19 5:56:27 PM #107:	Holy shit, karlpilkington4 definitely works for a MLM company <cite>treewojima posted [p:922790432] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit, karlpilkington4 definitely works for a MLM company</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 06/04/19 5:56:31 PM #108:	spudger posted... DarkRoast posted... spudger posted... radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird. He's pretty dedicated. Even I have my limits. super dedicated. if it wasn't so pathetic i'd be impressed. FTFY <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:922790434] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> its just his gimmick basically any topic where the prevailing opinion is siding in one direction, he advocates the opposite. hes a contrarian troll; its weird.</quote> He's pretty dedicated. Even I have my limits.</quote> super dedicated. if it wasn't so pathetic i'd be impressed.</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 5:58:12 PM #109:	treewojima posted... Holy shit, karlpilkington4 definitely works for a MLM company I don't. I run a marketing company. MLM is a dumb business model. It's just not a scam. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922790489] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit, karlpilkington4 definitely works for a MLM company</quote> I don't. I run a marketing company. MLM is a dumb business model. It's just not a scam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 5:59:52 PM #110:	Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922790555] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 6:02:28 PM #112:	Conflict posted... I don't think Karl is proudclad either btw I agree. I don't know what happened to him but he's not karl --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922790655] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think Karl is proudclad either btw</quote> I agree. I don't know what happened to him but he's not karl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 06/04/19 6:04:23 PM #113:	Conflict posted... Karl is mega lol in this topic though. Probably buyers remorse for those $1000 knives I think we can all agree on this...... <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:922790733] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote> Karl is mega lol in this topic though. Probably buyers remorse for those $1000 knives</quote> I think we can all agree on this......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:06:41 PM #114:	Conflict posted... Karl is mega lol in this topic though. Probably buyers remorse for those $1000 knives Nah, never got into cutco. I did SEO for a guy who did MLM stuff, which is why I know about it all. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922790819] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote> Karl is mega lol in this topic though. Probably buyers remorse for those $1000 knives</quote> Nah, never got into cutco. I did SEO for a guy who did MLM stuff, which is why I know about it all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 6:09:53 PM #115:	karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922790959] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lydiaquayle 06/04/19 6:15:34 PM #116:	karlpilkington4 posted... It's a commission based job. If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude. --- [Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary] I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~ <cite>lydiaquayle posted [p:922791219] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a commission based job.</quote> If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:19:20 PM #117:	Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791354] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/04/19 6:20:09 PM #118:	karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2] --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922791392] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 06/04/19 6:20:15 PM #119:	karlpilkington4 posted... You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam. Sounds like Stockholm syndrome --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:922791399] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam.</quote> Sounds like Stockholm syndrome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:21:29 PM #120:	lydiaquayle posted... karlpilkington4 posted... It's a commission based job. If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude. Says who? The world police of commission jobs? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791450] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>lydiaquayle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a commission based job.</quote> If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude.</quote> Says who? The world police of commission jobs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:24:00 PM #121:	DarkRoast posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2] Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791550] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2]</quote> Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/04/19 6:25:19 PM #122:	YookaLaylee posted... karlpilkington4 posted... You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam. Sounds like Stockholm syndrome Sunk cost fallacy is probably more apt. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:922791596] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam.</quote> Sounds like Stockholm syndrome</quote> Sunk cost fallacy is probably more apt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:26:05 PM #123:	BLAKUboy posted... YookaLaylee posted... karlpilkington4 posted... You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam. Sounds like Stockholm syndrome Sunk cost fallacy is probably more apt. Sunk cost of what? What did I buy? I'm curious. NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791623] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam.</quote> Sounds like Stockholm syndrome</quote> Sunk cost fallacy is probably more apt.</quote> Sunk cost of what? What did I buy? I'm curious. NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/04/19 6:26:40 PM #124:	karlpilkington4 posted... lydiaquayle posted... karlpilkington4 posted... It's a commission based job. If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude. Says who? The world police of commission jobs? I mean, that's literally how a commission-based salary works. You work directly for a company, you sell a product or service that the company has already fronted. Depending on your state, you will still be entitled to some wage regardless if you sell or not, though obviously if you're not doing a good job the company has the right to let you go. And you're not required to pay the company money first to get the job. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:922791648] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lydiaquayle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a commission based job.</quote> If it's a commission-based job, then the salesman would never have to put up his own money to get the product, dude.</quote> Says who? The world police of commission jobs?</quote> I mean, that's literally how a commission-based salary works. You work directly for a company, you sell a product or service that the company has already fronted. Depending on your state, you will still be entitled to some wage regardless if you sell or not, though obviously if you're not doing a good job the company has the right to let you go. And you're not required to pay the company money first to get the job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/04/19 6:28:16 PM #125:	If MLM products were worth buying, they wouldn't need 900,000 salespeople --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922791710] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>If MLM products were worth buying, they wouldn't need 900,000 salespeople</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/04/19 6:28:55 PM #127:	Oh my god, it's still going --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:922791733] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>Oh my god, it's still going</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/04/19 6:29:50 PM #128:	karlpilkington4 posted... DarkRoast posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2] Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia. Call it what you want, but the concept remains. Sell as many products as you can to your warm market (friends, family, coworkers). But after those run out, then what? Literally the next line; the author calls it an MLM consistently throughout that page and literally writes "Call it what you want" right after the excerpt you posted. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:922791774] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2]</quote> Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia.</quote> Call it what you want, but the concept remains. Sell as many products as you can to your warm market (friends, family, coworkers). But after those run out, then what? Literally the next line; the author calls it an MLM consistently throughout that page and literally writes "Call it what you want" right after the excerpt you posted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 6:31:55 PM #129:	karlpilkington4 posted... NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle. Shortly after this statement you went from "MLM isn't a scam" to "vector marketing isn't MLM" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922791858] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle.</quote> Shortly after this statement you went from "MLM isn't a scam" to "vector marketing isn't MLM"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:33:30 PM #130:	Hexenherz posted... karlpilkington4 posted... DarkRoast posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks. Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront. I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing. I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2] Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia. Call it what you want, but the concept remains. Sell as many products as you can to your warm market (friends, family, coworkers). But after those run out, then what? Literally the next line; the author calls it an MLM consistently throughout that page and literally writes "Call it what you want" right after the excerpt you posted. So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791931] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> Okay but that's not what vector marketing does. They make you buy both the product and these imaginary pep talks.</quote> Fair enough, either way its not a scam if they tell you that upfront.</quote> I mean they don't. They tell you where you start and they tell you what the top of the pyramid looks like. They tell you all the gilded parts and none of the shit that you have to scrub to get there. It's like "Hey, you want a job helping out with preschool kids? Pays 200k a year!" "ok seems sweet money" first day on the job the kids are surrounded by tigers and you find out later that this is a daily thing.</quote> I just looked up Vector Marketing, and they arent even an MLM company. They are a direct sales company.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Marketing Vector Marketing is a multi-level marketing subsidiary company and the domestic sales arm of Cutco Corporation, an Olean, New York-based cutlery manufacturer.[1][2]</quote> Vector Marketing is a little different in that they claim not to be an MLM at all. According to them, their reps can earn incentives and prized for recruiting new sales reps, but they dont get paid on a multi-level downline. https://mlmcompanies.org/vector-marketing/ Maybe know what you're talking about before linking to wikipedia.</quote> Call it what you want, but the concept remains. Sell as many products as you can to your warm market (friends, family, coworkers). But after those run out, then what? Literally the next line; the author calls it an MLM consistently throughout that page and literally writes "Call it what you want" right after the excerpt you posted.</quote> So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:34:39 PM #131:	Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle. Shortly after this statement you went from "MLM isn't a scam" to "vector marketing isn't MLM" Both are true. So... --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922791973] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>NB4 some lame joke or backpeddle.</quote> Shortly after this statement you went from "MLM isn't a scam" to "vector marketing isn't MLM"</quote> Both are true. So...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:36:28 PM #132:	Also MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because you have to pay for your own starter demonstration kit. The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922792048] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>Also MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because you have to pay for your own starter demonstration kit. The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/04/19 6:39:06 PM #133:	karlpilkington4 posted... Also MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because you have to pay for your own starter demonstration kit. The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. Source: A MLM company that doesn't want the negative press. They only started doing that after a lawsuit. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:922792158] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Also MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because you have to pay for your own starter demonstration kit. The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products.</quote> Source: A MLM company that doesn't want the negative press. They only started doing that after a lawsuit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/04/19 6:39:35 PM #134:	At some point you just need to put Proudclad on ignore. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:922792178] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>At some point you just need to put Proudclad on ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 6:40:51 PM #135:	karlpilkington4 posted... The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. You do not buy demonstration kit. You buy all the merchandise. I literally saw the invoice with my own eyes. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922792245] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. </quote> You do not buy demonstration kit. You buy all the merchandise. I literally saw the invoice with my own eyes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lydiaquayle 06/04/19 6:41:08 PM #136:	karlpilkington4 posted... Says who? The world police of commission jobs? That's how a fucking commission-based job works. --- [Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary] I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~ <cite>lydiaquayle posted [p:922792260] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Says who? The world police of commission jobs?</quote> That's how a fucking commission-based job works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 06/04/19 6:41:31 PM #137:	karlpilkington4 posted... You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam. With an insane amount of luck and time invested. And to crack the barrier as a top level earner you need to be an early adopter. I see people saying they make 800 a month and that its great money. Sure, it's nice pocket change if you use it as a secondary income and post a few things every day on social media. But making it a full time job? You better be lucky and know a lot of idiots. Edit: cutco knives are the BEST knives you can get. Absolutely professional grade, sharp as absolute balls and FREE lifetime warranty with no gimmicks. I highly recommend if you cook daily and enjoy it. Even with the high price tag. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:922792275] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>You can make money in MLM. It's not a scam.</quote> With an insane amount of luck and time invested. And to crack the barrier as a top level earner you need to be an early adopter. I see people saying they make 800 a month and that its great money. Sure, it's nice pocket change if you use it as a secondary income and post a few things every day on social media. But making it a full time job? You better be lucky and know a lot of idiots. Edit: cutco knives are the BEST knives you can get. Absolutely professional grade, sharp as absolute balls and FREE lifetime warranty with no gimmicks. I highly recommend if you cook daily and enjoy it. Even with the high price tag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
21WIVES_CHILL 06/04/19 6:41:55 PM #138:	I remember i was looking for a job back in my college days about a decade ago. My friend had a "health job interview" for me and i went. I didnt know what was MLM at the time but the beginning part of the meeting had them showing nice cars and big mansions and that we can achieve these goals if we worked hard for it. Then came the time to sign up ajd buy their Usana startup kits. I felt loke i was bring forced to buy it but luckily i didnt have a bank account at the time. I wonder how they're doing now. <cite>21WIVES_CHILL posted [p:922792289] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>I remember i was looking for a job back in my college days about a decade ago. My friend had a "health job interview" for me and i went. I didnt know what was MLM at the time but the beginning part of the meeting had them showing nice cars and big mansions and that we can achieve these goals if we worked hard for it. Then came the time to sign up ajd buy their Usana startup kits. I felt loke i was bring forced to buy it but luckily i didnt have a bank account at the time. I wonder how they're doing now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:44:13 PM #139:	lydiaquayle posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Says who? The world police of commission jobs? That's how a fucking commission-based job works. Except in some MLM companies. Idk why this is so hard for you to understand --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922792397] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>lydiaquayle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Says who? The world police of commission jobs?</quote> That's how a fucking commission-based job works.</quote> Except in some MLM companies. Idk why this is so hard for you to understand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:46:44 PM #140:	Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. You do not buy demonstration kit. You buy all the merchandise. I literally saw the invoice with my own eyes. This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money" --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922792500] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>The TRUTH: One common misunderstanding is that you have to buy your own starter kit to hold demonstrations for your clients. This is not true, as you are NOT required to purchase the starter kit. In fact, each Vector sales rep will be loaned a CUTCO demonstration set to show customers the quality of CUTCO products. </quote> You do not buy demonstration kit. You buy all the merchandise. I literally saw the invoice with my own eyes.</quote> This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 06/04/19 6:47:48 PM #141:	radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! Nah he just goes into topics and finds some BS to shill for and trolls for 100 posts Inb4 he says posting facts isnt trolling --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:922792546] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> Nah he just goes into topics and finds some BS to shill for and trolls for 100 posts Inb4 he says posting facts isnt trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 6:49:26 PM #142:	thronedfire2 posted... radical rhino posted... Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol! Nah he just goes into topics and finds some BS to shill for and trolls for 100 posts Inb4 he says posting facts isnt trolling You're right, posting facts isnt trolling. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922792613] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>radical rhino posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit this karl guy is so obviously part of a MLM company and desperately doesnt want to admit that he was scammed. Lol!</quote> Nah he just goes into topics and finds some BS to shill for and trolls for 100 posts Inb4 he says posting facts isnt trolling</quote> You're right, posting facts isnt trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/04/19 6:58:31 PM #143:	karlpilkington4 posted... This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money" It's not said anywhere because that's part of the scam. You buy the product in advance, then sell through your inventory. My brother literally bought $1000 worth of cutco knives. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922792976] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money"</quote> It's not said anywhere because that's part of the scam. You buy the product in advance, then sell through your inventory. My brother literally bought $1000 worth of cutco knives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 7:04:31 PM #144:	Tyranthraxus posted... karlpilkington4 posted... This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money" It's not said anywhere because that's part of the scam. You buy the product in advance, then sell through your inventory. My brother literally bought $1000 worth of cutco knives. Then surely someone on the internet would have the same experience. There are tons of websites incorrectly saying its a "scam", yet none of them say you have to buy knives. Atleast I can't find any. Pretty hard to believe you, since the scenario doesnt make sense to begin with. They give you a free training kit, yet you have to buy the knives? Literally makes zero sense. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922793209] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>This isnt said anywhere, so feel free to post evidence. It doesnt even make sense Vector- "Here's the demo kit. Go sell some knives" Goes to sell it to a homeowner Homeowner- "I'll buy it" Me- "Hold on, first I have to order it myself with my own money, then I'll get it and sell it to you, and you give me money"</quote> It's not said anywhere because that's part of the scam. You buy the product in advance, then sell through your inventory. My brother literally bought $1000 worth of cutco knives.</quote> Then surely someone on the internet would have the same experience. There are tons of websites incorrectly saying its a "scam", yet none of them say you have to buy knives. Atleast I can't find any. Pretty hard to believe you, since the scenario doesnt make sense to begin with. They give you a free training kit, yet you have to buy the knives? Literally makes zero sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/04/19 7:05:32 PM #145:	karlpilkington4 posted... So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth 1 - You posted a source saying "they don't call themselves an MLM", yet that article itself calls it an MLM constantly. Why would you post an article that you didn't even read yourself? Jfc 2 - Of course they're not going to say "We're an MLM" on their website when you've clearly seen how negatively that term is interpreted. I am trying really hard to keep my ignore list at 0 but this is pushing the limits... --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:922793254] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote> So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth</quote> 1 - You posted a source saying "they don't call themselves an MLM", yet that article itself calls it an MLM constantly. Why would you post an article that you didn't even read yourself? Jfc 2 - Of course they're not going to say "We're an MLM" on their website when you've clearly seen how negatively that term is interpreted. I am trying really hard to keep my ignore list at 0 but this is pushing the limits...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 7:06:23 PM #146:	Hexenherz posted... karlpilkington4 posted... So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth I am trying really hard to keep my ignore list at 0 but this is pushing the limits... I really don't care what you do bud. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922793280] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote> So, it's not a MLM because there's not a downline aka no multilevel, but its still a MLM because some dude says so? Nice logic there bud. I linked to a random article because I didnt feel like finding the actual website link again MYTH: Vector Marketing is a scam because it's a multi-level marketing company. The TRUTH: Vector Marketing is not a multi-level marketing company. Vector Marketing is a single-level, direct-to-consumer marketing company and is recognized as an official member of the Direct Selling Association. In a multi-level marketing company, sales representatives make their money by recruiting additional sales representatives. This is not the case for Vector Marketing, as our sales representatives earn their money by selling Cutco's World's Finest Cutlery directly to consumers. https://www.vectormarketing.com/app/vector-truth</quote> I am trying really hard to keep my ignore list at 0 but this is pushing the limits...</quote> I really don't care what you do bud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/04/19 7:08:01 PM #147:	Apparently you are incapable of addressing the other two points that I made about why your argument is atrocious and hurts the brain. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:922793349] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>Apparently you are incapable of addressing the other two points that I made about why your argument is atrocious and hurts the brain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lydiaquayle 06/04/19 7:09:21 PM #148:	karlpilkington4 posted... Except in some MLM companies. Which makes it a scam. If a company requires you to front money, then you're not supposed to be an employee. At best it's royalty-based. If they call it commission-based, then they're scamming you. --- [Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary] I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~ <cite>lydiaquayle posted [p:922793403] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Except in some MLM companies.</quote> Which makes it a scam. If a company requires you to front money, then you're not supposed to be an employee. At best it's royalty-based. If they call it commission-based, then they're scamming you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 06/04/19 7:16:21 PM #149:	lydiaquayle posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Except in some MLM companies. Which makes it a scam. If a company requires you to front money, then you're not supposed to be an employee. At best it's royalty-based. If they call it commission-based, then they're scamming you. Youre not an employee in an mlm company. Youre an independent contractor. So theres that... --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922793683] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>lydiaquayle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Except in some MLM companies.</quote> Which makes it a scam. If a company requires you to front money, then you're not supposed to be an employee. At best it's royalty-based. If they call it commission-based, then they're scamming you.</quote> Youre not an employee in an mlm company. Youre an independent contractor. So theres that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lydiaquayle 06/04/19 7:16:48 PM #150:	karlpilkington4 posted... Youre not an employee in an mlm company. Youre an independent contractor. So theres that... Therefore, you shouldn't be calling it a job. Secondly, commissions-based means that the company fronts the product, not you. --- [Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary] I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~ <cite>lydiaquayle posted [p:922793706] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Youre not an employee in an mlm company. Youre an independent contractor. So theres that...</quote> Therefore, you shouldn't be calling it a job. Secondly, commissions-based means that the company fronts the product, not you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudChaser462 06/04/19 7:17:11 PM #151:	Cutco Knives are pretty good though --- http://error1355.com/ce/CloudChaser462.html <cite>CloudChaser462 posted [p:922793726] in One of my ... [t:77761805]...</cite> <quote>Cutco Knives are pretty good though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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