Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 3.

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turbopuns3 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Its also hysterical that you actually think you can mislynch Han tomorrow once I flip town, by the way.

???

I said that if SBell is town, then at least one of you is scum

Thay doesn't make your argument look any better.

Wtf? This is like the most irrelevant and oddly specific point ever.

What does this have to do with my original argument? It's completely separate from that.

You SHOULD be noticing how Ulti sounds completely insane in that exchange.

Sounds like he was trying to sound insane in order to generate reads off players. Its an interesting play. But I don't see why it would be conclusive at 2 AM when people are sleeping.

I went to bed last night thinking I might put my vote back on Tom. But those posts this morning were much more typical Tom. I think I'm null on him now.

I don't know Ulti. Red says he doesn't see Ulti getting the type of payoff he likes if he makes this play as scum. I would think winning the game would give him that payoff. But like I said, I don't know Ulti. I can see both scum and town reasons for his actions so far.

If people are saying that Puns feels genuinely annoyed by the negative attention, how does 5tar look? I think it feels less genuine than Puns. But I don't know if I'm falling for mob mentality since a lot of people are throwing scum suspicion on him.

I stand by my opinion that most of D1 up until the votes on SBell feels like scum letting town throw shade at each other. I'm sure not all the scum we're quiet, but I think some were. I'm going to read back through the first two topics with this in mind. I think I know who I want to vote for. But I just got out of urgent care. That sinus headache I had last night turned into a bad ear infection. Plus in-laws are in town. So I can't promise timeliness.
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Tom is your reasoning here seriously that you voted me for having the second most votes. For crying out loud. I swear to god if I get mislynched day 1 in back to back games Im gonna cry and seek help. The last one was looney tunes where I got b8 special Ed and surprise surprise I was town then and Im town now.

Am I having a moment of "literally just woke up" stupidity or am I reading that right?

It almost makes my gut feel that Ulti and IGCD are on a scum team together and IGCD haa been reading Ulti bitch about my "idiotic tunneling" behind the scenes but he hasn't been keeping up with the actual context of the game.

htaeD posted...

IGCD. Explanations with your statements plz.

I originally switched to 5tar because I was following Ulti's logic but if I'm doing that I would be following Ulti's logic to vote scum that currently also has pretty much all scum leads from Ulti's perspective. That doesn't sit well with me.
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Obellisk posted...

Has igcd done anything except vote on the lynch leader this game?

Yes. In fact most of my votes have not been lynch leaders.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Am I having a moment of "literally just woke up" stupidity or am I reading that right?

It almost makes my gut feel that Ulti and IGCD are on a scum team together and IGCD haa been reading Ulti bitch about my "idiotic tunneling" behind the scenes but he hasn't been keeping up with the actual context of the game.

What?
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Igcd I think he means you are chiming into the conversation at a point that looks like you've always been involved but you haven't.

So it's like you and Ulti are talking about it on the scum board but then you came to the game and started talking about it to puns.

Does that make more sense?
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I didn't react well. Should have been more succinct.

IGCD, explain what you're talking about in post 192

IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Its also hysterical that you actually think you can mislynch Han tomorrow once I flip town, by the way.

???

I said that if SBell is town, then at least one of you is scum

Thay doesn't make your argument look any better.

##Unvote

Comparing it to last game, Ulti's scumhunting feels a lot more genuine in my opinion here and while I don't like the claim I think he is town but on the same front I like puns too. I'm gonna reread because I don't think I retained enough the first time through.

My first immediate thought though is I voiced my dislike of Tom and he said he didn't like me back. That's not good. That is like a counter-vote with placing one.
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Obellisk posted...

Igcd I think he means you are chiming into the conversation at a point that looks like you've always been involved but you haven't.

So it's like you and Ulti are talking about it on the scum board but then you came to the game and started talking about it to puns.

Does that make more sense?

In light of Puns post 208, I think he's saying the IGCD is commenting on the weirdest part of Ulti's argument with Puns as if Ulti was right. But since then Ulti has already said he was fishing for reactions from everyone.

I don't read it as IGCD is on a scumteam with Ulti though. I could read it as IGCD is throwing suspicions on what he thinks is an easy target.
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pezloco posted...

I don't read it as IGCD is on a scumteam with Ulti though.

turbopuns3 posted...

It almost makes my gut feel that Ulti and IGCD are on a scum team together

O_o
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pezloco posted...

I don't read it as IGCD is on a scumteam with Ulti though.

Yeah as far as that goes it could be anyone talking about it behind the scenes, wouldn't have to be ulti

Obellisk posted...

pezloco posted...

I don't read it as IGCD is on a scumteam with Ulti though.

turbopuns3 posted...

It almost makes my gut feel that Ulti and IGCD are on a scum team together

O_o

Yes I'm disagreeing with his gut. That's why I point out I don't think they are on a team together. My post was in response to his and yours.
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Obellisk posted...

O_o

New personal rule: no posting until I've been fully awake for 10 minutes. I've created a mess Haha

Oh i thought you were disagreeing with the words he said.

Maybe we all need to take a step back.
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pezloco posted...

I thought you agreed with me about Han being town?

I don't remember if you had anything to do with it but I am leaning townish on Han but harder on Puns

pezloco posted...

My bad.

that makes more sense I was about to revoke your town lean

5tarscream posted...

Tom is your reasoning here seriously that you voted me for having the second most votes.

Reread my post: you were one of the two scummiest votes on Ulti and the other one (IGCD) isn't getting any traction
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Tom Bombadil posted...

pezloco posted...

I thought you agreed with me about Han being town?

I don't remember if you had anything to do with it but I am leaning townish on Han but harder on Puns

Go back, I led you through my reasoning when I was grilling you yesterday morning. I'm sitting at Walgreens on my phone. When I get home maybe I can give you specific posts.
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Igcd,

Corrik hasn't shown back up lately. How do you feel about him?
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I will take your word that that is a conversation we had- do you need me to do more than that
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Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

I was posting at 2am last night and you called me inactive at 2pm today. Like, bruh.

I don't think this is worth getting upset over? (I am aware that I have been essentially gone for longer than that right now, yes >_>) 12 hours isn't a lynchable gap but it also isn't a MAN I JUST POSTED gap either.

I like how Ulti dislikes roommate powers and then invokes "we're-going-to-get-a-drink-sometime" powers on puns

Kinda weird that Ulti went back and counted posts from last game, but....not this one? I was starting to like Ulti but this isn't a good look.

what's an ISO

I wasn't upset. That's a stretch and a half.

Ulti said I was definitely scum, and Death agreed, so I pointed out the silliness of the statement. 12 hours, when you're including an obvious overnight sleep time, IS, absolutely too short to be calling someone definitely scum.

ISO means ctrl + f a certain player from the start and read only their posts (in isolation)

Tom Bombadil posted...

I will take your word that that is a conversation we had- do you need me to do more than that

Han as town is my strongest read. I'm not sure what to do with you not remembering our interactions over that.

Specifically I think that almost everyone should be convinced he's town. I don't see an argument for Puns being more town than Han. I'm leaning town on Puns, but I'm fairly confident Han is town.

I don't know if this should be a scum tell on you or not. The reason I think it might be goes back to how I described your hedging yesterday when we went back and forth. You as scum feel a need to hedge your reads to counter the fact that you would generally know who is and isn't scum. But you can't say why you're confident so you hedge.

Ultimately I think you just forgot why you should be confident Han is town because it was my reasoning not yours. So meh?
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Hey, random thought while reading, why would Sultan start a game early and give an extended day if he had a role that was time limited like gladiator? I would blame it on inexperience but that doesn't really feel fair to the person who drew that role. That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.
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That's funny. I assumed it stood for "In Search Of"... All these years.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Hey, random thought while reading, why would Sultan start a game early and give an extended day if he had a role that was time limited like gladiator? I would blame it on inexperience but that doesn't really feel fair to the person who drew that role. That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.

Corrik made stuff up what a new and shocking revelation oh my god.

eaedwards6400 posted...

That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.

Has anyone ever truly gone after Corrik for one of his day one gambit?
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turbopuns3 posted...

I didn't react well. Should have been more succinct.

IGCD, explain what you're talking about in post 192

IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Its also hysterical that you actually think you can mislynch Han tomorrow once I flip town, by the way.

???

I said that if SBell is town, then at least one of you is scum

Thay doesn't make your argument look any better.

The way I look at that is that you are setting up 3 potential mislynches.
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I should add to that, that I agreed with Ulti that you were being inactive.
I didnt intend to agree with saying to dayvig you or anything like that. But I see now that I didnt make that clear at all.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Panthera posted...

Okay Puns is town, reread the beginning of this topic if you doubt it. He's genuinely annoyed at how Ulti is attacking his activity. Like, look at that and tell me the mindset is anything but "what the f*** is this guy for real attacking me for this stupid s***".

y'know you've got a point here- I was kinda putting Puns v. Ulti in the Han v. Sbell category of "I don't like either argument here so I think one is scum" but yeah that does kinda sound like an annoyed town

Wait

Why doesn't that just mean Ulti is the scum

Sounds like you went "this is town/scum" -> "puns is town, so it's not town/scum"

eaedwards6400 posted...

Hey, random thought while reading, why would Sultan start a game early and give an extended day if he had a role that was time limited like gladiator? I would blame it on inexperience but that doesn't really feel fair to the person who drew that role. That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.

I mentioned this from the start Eaed. Keep up
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Obellisk posted...

Igcd,

Corrik hasn't shown back up lately. How do you feel about him?

His play has been very Corrik, but it was weird when he was being super nice and polite to death.
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turbopuns3 posted...

I wasn't upset. That's a stretch and a half.

you getting cranky was the biggest town read I had on you so okay I guess

pezloco posted...

But you can't say why you're confident so you hedge.

counterpoint: have you ever known me to be a confident player? on d1?
han-specific counterpoint: he has generally seemed earnest to me, outside of the early kerfuffle with sbell
puns: I liked him getting cranky about the activity thing but now he's saying he wasn't cranky so meh
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I literally have nothing more to add at this point. Nobody has said anything new recently other than Tom voting me which I hope is simply misguided and not another scum push for an easy town kill. Seriously this is so exhausting just saying the same shot over and over again. If you want to see my defense to literally every single accusation tossed my way then you can just read back Im not gonna repeat myself anymore. Im off to bed.

eaedwards6400 posted...

Hey, random thought while reading, why would Sultan start a game early and give an extended day if he had a role that was time limited like gladiator? I would blame it on inexperience but that doesn't really feel fair to the person who drew that role. That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.

Meh, I'm not too concerned with trying to meta the way the host starts the game. I have opinions about Corrik, but role speculation like that is best left alone D1.
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htaeD posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Hey, random thought while reading, why would Sultan start a game early and give an extended day if he had a role that was time limited like gladiator? I would blame it on inexperience but that doesn't really feel fair to the person who drew that role. That being said it is a null tell on Corrik because if he is lying he's doing a good job sticking to his gambit.

I mentioned this from the start Eaed. Keep up

Well that feels like an unusually aggressive response from you, Death. You usual play this game so cool.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Why doesn't that just mean Ulti is the scum

after letting it sit for a bit, it seemed more like a reaching town than a scum (wait was that the conversation you were talking about pez)
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

The way I look at that is that you are setting up 3 potential mislynches.

You are letting the Ulti Insanity infect you. You have to resist!

My original point was:

If Sbell is town, there is scum between Han/Ulti. And I was lynching Sbell at the time.

Later on, I switched to voting Ulti because I felt him more likely scum than Sbell.

Ulti, illogically, said "you just admitted that after I flip town you won't go after Han. CONTRADICTION!"

But, it was in no way a contradiction from my statement. Ulti just twisted my logic and took off running.

Because if Ulti was lynched and flipped town, based on my original statement there is no implication that I should think Han is scum.

And you can't argue that I'm setting up 3 mislynches either because I also never said I was going to lynch Sbell if Ulti flips town.

I never said anything of the sort.

turbopuns3 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

The way I look at that is that you are setting up 3 potential mislynches.

You are letting the Ulti Insanity infect you. You have to resist!

My original point was:

If Sbell is town, there is scum between Han/Ulti. And I was lynching Sbell at the time.

Later on, I switched to voting Ulti because I felt him more likely scum than Sbell.

Ulti, illogically, said "you just admitted that after I flip town you won't go after Han. CONTRADICTION!"

But, it was in no way a contradiction from my statement. Ulti just twisted my logic and took off running.

Because if Ulti was lynched and flipped town, based on my original statement there is no implication that I should think Han is scum.

And you can't argue that I'm setting up 3 mislynches either because I also never said I was going to lynch Sbell if Ulti flips town.

I never said anything of the sort.

Yea. I get that. His logic fell apart when I kept reading and his PoE included a player that was being voted by the rest of his PoE.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Well that feels like an unusually aggressive response from you, Death. You usual play this game so cool.

Death is always sassy. People just don't notice

turbopuns3 posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Well that feels like an unusually aggressive response from you, Death. You usual play this game so cool.

Death is always sassy. People just don't notice

That's not the impression I typically have
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what is a PoE
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I wish to try again to draw attention to this post. If anyone acknowledged it I've overlooked it

turbopuns3 posted...

Why did this dialogue stop right here...??

Leafeon13N posted...

Oh god i totally fell asleep when i intended to read last night.

vote: tom

Scare should know of roommates as well too unless I'm crazy. Making me a bit hesitant he seems to have ignored the voten

Obellisk posted...

Reds vote on Tom with no explanation is what pushed me over the edge, up until that point I was really holding onto hope that you were a shining beacon of what good town play is.

Leafeon13N posted...

You think there was no explanation?

Obellisk posted...

I didn't see one.

Process of Elimination

Oh puns. I typed out a post to respond to that and then it got stopped by too many quote blocks and then I got annoyed and went back to life.

HI.

I would like a response from red. And I thought I asked him last night to show me. I don't see an explanation in his post. Not a good one. It's no better than an igcd vote.
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I think red was deferring to pez on me and said as much at some point
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Tom Bombadil posted...

what is a PoE

Process of elimination
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It just felt so. "oh yeah roommate powers... Let's make a vote in agreement".
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MZero11 posted...

sounds like you might be slipping that you know SBell is town if anything >_>

THANK YOU

(I'm just now catching up fully on the page that happened while I slept)

I actually do have another point because I cant sleep at the moment.
Pez/puns/Ulti/Panth if I am lynched today, when I flip town how will this change your reads on Tom, Scare and Han. You either think literally all 3 of them have accidentally lynched town or theyve played their hand way too soon and their scum. At least one of them has to be scum so who do you think is most likely?
I think SBell is honestly still distracted by his initial misread on me and hasnt actually read what I posted from a neutral position. Hes looking to find something instead of just looking.

Obellisk posted...

It just felt so. "oh yeah roommate powers... Let's make a vote in agreement".

That is literally it.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Anyway, I think the Ulti train is enough to get me to hop off Sbell. Corrik and Han don't seem that scummy to me at this point, eaed's vote came first, and 5tar has more support than IGCD right now so

Unvote: SBell
Vote: 5tar

Tempted to switch back to Tom for this.

Ho-lee crap that's a scummy vote