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GATTJT
05/23/19 2:45:49 PM
#101:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Reis posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
GATTJT posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Hop103 posted...
$120 game in 2019?

Don't buy this game. This game is not worth $120.


I agree. I'm not buying half a game at a time.

If both halves were 30 bucks then maybe

Was Mass Effect 1 one third of a game?

No, it was one third of a trilogy. Did you think you were making a good point?

Saying you're buying half a game when it's a fleshed out remake of a different game is stupid. It's equivalent to saying Mass Effect 1 is a third of a game.

Just because it's not following the story beats to a T it doesnt mean it's less of a game

lmao what's wrong with you

I just cant get behind the idea of people calling a 60+ hour game with new content and remade content "half a game" when it's completely fucking stupid and dishonest

Nobody is calling 7 Remake half a game, we're saying that we don't want to pay full price for one half of the game and then have to pay full price for the other half. The game is factually being split into separate parts. We'd wind up paying double the price of a complete game, which is insane. It seems to me like you just misunderstood the original statement as "The remake is half a game" when the statement is actually "I'm not buying half a game at a time". Which is objectively the situation with this remake if the leaks are true.
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 2:58:43 PM
#102:


GATTJT posted...

Nobody is calling 7 Remake half a game, we're saying that we don't want to pay full price for one half of the game and then have to pay full price for the other half. The game is factually being split into separate parts. We'd wind up paying double the price of a complete game, which is insane. It seems to me like you just misunderstood the original statement as "The remake is half a game" when the statement is actually "I'm not buying half a game at a time". Which is objectively the situation with this remake if the leaks are true.


You are buying a whole game. FF7 remake is not FF7. It is a new game that reuses the plot and characters of the original.

It is half a plot but that seems like a really irrelevant argument because you already know what the whole plot is and that doesn't change. You're paying for an interactive experience which will be provided to you complete with many hours worth of gameplay.

The sequel which finishes the plot will be released later.
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Touch
05/23/19 2:59:58 PM
#103:


People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:04:40 PM
#104:


Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games
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MC_BatCommander
05/23/19 3:06:42 PM
#105:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game
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HylianFox
05/23/19 3:08:46 PM
#106:


if you cut an apple in half you don't get two apples
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:09:16 PM
#107:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game

Two halves of a much much much larger version of a really small game.
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Irony
05/23/19 3:09:23 PM
#108:


Zerocide posted...
SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
The game with be in 2 parts at $60 each

Lolwut

So basically $120 for a 20 hour game
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Touch
05/23/19 3:09:34 PM
#109:


Imagine paying $180 for all 3 discs of the original FF7
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:09:55 PM
#110:


HylianFox posted...
if you cut an apple in half you don't get two apples

Half a watermelon is greater than a whole apple.
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thronedfire2
05/23/19 3:10:01 PM
#111:


Tyranthraxus posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game

Two halves of a much much much larger version of a really small game.


So, still two halves of one game
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MC_BatCommander
05/23/19 3:10:47 PM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game

Two halves of a much much much larger version of a really small game.


Still two halves, also you have no way of knowing if each half will actually have any amount of meaningful added content
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:12:12 PM
#113:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game

Two halves of a much much much larger version of a really small game.


Still two halves, also you have no way of knowing if each half will actually have any amount of meaningful added content


Yes we do. We've already seen meaningful content added. What we don't know is how much content but the developers have stated a goal of theirs was to allow you to fully explore Midgar which you were railroaded off of in the first game.
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MC_BatCommander
05/23/19 3:13:06 PM
#114:


Tyranthraxus posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Touch posted...
People literally defending $120 for a game holy crap

For two games


Two halves of one game

Two halves of a much much much larger version of a really small game.


Still two halves, also you have no way of knowing if each half will actually have any amount of meaningful added content


Yes we do. We've already seen meaningful content added. What we don't know is how much content but the developers have stated a goal of theirs was to allow you to fully explore Midgar which you were railroaded off of in the first game.


What content, cite some examples beyond hollow developer promises. Being able to explore Midgar is meaningless to me if it's as pointless as exploring FF 15's world was.
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Tryhaptaward
05/23/19 3:15:04 PM
#115:


The people complaining were or are probably going to pirate it anyways
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tripleh213
05/23/19 3:16:47 PM
#116:


Tyranthraxus posted...
HylianFox posted...
if you cut an apple in half you don't get two apples

Half a watermelon is greater than a whole apple.

Begone troll
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Questionmarktarius
05/23/19 3:21:47 PM
#117:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Half a watermelon is greater than a whole apple.

If I wanted a Final Fantasy full of intolerable seeds, I'd play FF8.
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metroidhunterx
05/23/19 3:25:29 PM
#118:


Verdekal posted...
Why is it people get pissed if it's not exactly

Stop. You know exactly how ridiculous this argument is. Nobody wants it to be exactly the same. They want it to be an evolution of the original. Changing it to an action RPG when the full remakes Square has done (FF 3 and 4) were upgraded turn based is weird and isn't an evolution, though it is somewhat expected since its Nomura. Don't pretend that if they showed off an upgraded TB trailer instead of ARPG that you would have been surprised, or that because it wasn't "exactly the same" that people would be outraged. People have the right to be disappointed just as people have the right to be excited, because at this point we have no idea whether it's going to be good or bad. All we know is that it is going to be different.
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Zack_Attackv1
05/23/19 3:28:01 PM
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darkphoenix181
05/23/19 3:29:17 PM
#120:


$5 jiggle physics dlc
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Strider102
05/23/19 3:31:19 PM
#121:


I shall wait for the inevitable complete edition.
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 3:32:42 PM
#122:


metroidhunterx posted...
Verdekal posted...
Why is it people get pissed if it's not exactly

Stop. You know exactly how ridiculous this argument is. Nobody wants it to be exactly the same. They want it to be an evolution of the original. Changing it to an action RPG when the full remakes Square has done (FF 3 and 4) were upgraded turn based is weird and isn't an evolution, though it is somewhat expected since its Nomura. Don't pretend that if they showed off an upgraded TB trailer instead of ARPG that you would have been surprised, or that because it wasn't "exactly the same" that people would be outraged. People have the right to be disappointed just as people have the right to be excited, because at this point we have no idea whether it's going to be good or bad. All we know is that it is going to be different.


I mean technically, yeah.

But people have already been saying that the game automatically sucks because it's not turn based despite nobody having played it.
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Kaz13
05/23/19 3:37:20 PM
#123:


Holy fuck if that Part 1, Part 2, etc nonsense is true. Gaming exploitation has reached a new level and people will support this shit because of nostalgia. Literally selling half a game for full price.
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darkphoenix181
05/23/19 3:40:04 PM
#124:


What if you can dress tifa in tons of sexy outdits like bikinis?

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Questionmarktarius
05/23/19 3:42:08 PM
#125:


darkphoenix181 posted...
What if you can dress tifa in tons of sexy outdits like bikinis?

Okay, but Cid too.
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Lairen
05/23/19 3:44:41 PM
#126:


Lets defend a game not even out yet. Lol.
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Strider102
05/23/19 3:44:42 PM
#127:


Can't wait for the following inevitable DLC.

Light & Dark Blue, Black, Red, Gold Chocobos at $10.

Advent Children outfits for $5.

Ultima Weapon and consequently Forest of the Ancients at $20.

Golden Saucer mini game pack for $15.

Original music pack for $10.

Ruby and Emerald Weapon pack for $10.

Cloud's Past dlc at $15.
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Lairen
05/23/19 3:45:21 PM
#128:


Strider102 posted...
Can't wait for the following inevitable DLC.

Light & Dark Blue, Black, Red, Gold Chocobos at $10.

Advent Children outfits for $5.

Ultima Weapon and consequently Forest of the Ancients at $20.

Golden Saucer mini game pack for $15.

Original music pack for $10.

Ruby and Emerald Weapon pack for $10.

Cloud's Past dlc at $15.


Big booby Tifa $5
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Touch
05/23/19 3:45:22 PM
#129:


Lairen posted...
Lets defend a game not even out yet. Lol.

Naw bro didn't you hear it's two separate games under one name!!!!
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Lairen
05/23/19 3:46:16 PM
#130:


Touch posted...
Lairen posted...
Lets defend a game not even out yet. Lol.

Naw bro didn't you hear it's two separate games under one name!!!!


$120!? What a deal!!!
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Questionmarktarius
05/23/19 3:46:23 PM
#131:


Strider102 posted...
Can't wait for the following inevitable DLC.

The 3009CBDE 0003 Gameshark code for $20.
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SoraOwnsOctopus
05/23/19 3:47:04 PM
#132:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Strider102 posted...
Can't wait for the following inevitable DLC.

The 3009CBDE 0003 Gameshark code for $20.

I don't get the reference
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marc55
05/23/19 3:47:13 PM
#133:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Hop103 posted...
$120 game in 2019?

Don't buy this game. This game is not worth $120.


I agree. I'm not buying half a game at a time.

If both halves were 30 bucks then maybe

i will

i played Digital devil saga 1 and 2 the mass effect trilogy ,hack gu and even FFXIII trilogy

games with the story split in parts / episodic like this arent new to me they go way back
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MadDewg
05/23/19 3:52:39 PM
#134:


garlic powder posted...
Also I wonder how the second part is going to work.

Am I going to lose all my stats or are they going to carry over to the next game? I can imagine people getting bored before beating the first part and just grinding until the next part comes out, Lol.


I would assume it would work just like the .hack series. You carry over everything from part 1 to part 2, but for those people that for whatever reason just go straight to buying part 2 (or does not have a "carry over file you get from part 1, for clearing the game), then the game will just give you a set amount of weapons, items, and money, something basic that will just get you started at that point of the game....most likely will be missing anything optional that you could have at that point from part 1.
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Solar_Crimson
05/23/19 3:53:20 PM
#135:


darkphoenix181 posted...
What if you can dress tifa in tons of sexy outdits like bikinis?

PzOcUsp

This isn't Tales.

...Or Dead or Alive.
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mybbqrules
05/23/19 3:55:12 PM
#136:


Kaz13 posted...
Holy fuck if that Part 1, Part 2, etc nonsense is true. Gaming exploitation has reached a new level and people will support this shit because of nostalgia. Literally selling half a game for full price.


This is why I bowed out of owning a console after the 360. Video game companies aren't trying to make games for loyal customers anymore. They're trying to give as little as they can to fleece you for every dime they can get. Pre-order, day one dlc (I.E, shit that we removed from the completed game to charge you extra money to get back), microtransactions, etc etc etc.

And people just continue to let them do it. And they keep pushing the envelope. Have you noticed how many stories lately have gone like this?

"Game company announces game, game will have this controversial feature about it. Massive fan backlash against controversial feature, developer rolls back feature, gamers rejoice in their "victory", and buy game."

They're constantly trying to roll out controversial features. Because occasionally, one will slip through. Then the bar is moved, and it'll never go back. That thing that was controversial becomes the new normal. That's where we are with microtransactions and DLC now.
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Solar_Crimson
05/23/19 3:59:42 PM
#137:


mybbqrules posted...
Kaz13 posted...
Holy fuck if that Part 1, Part 2, etc nonsense is true. Gaming exploitation has reached a new level and people will support this shit because of nostalgia. Literally selling half a game for full price.


This is why I bowed out of owning a console after the 360. Video game companies aren't trying to make games for loyal customers anymore. They're trying to give as little as they can to fleece you for every dime they can get. Pre-order, day one dlc (I.E, shit that we removed from the completed game to charge you extra money to get back), microtransactions, etc etc etc.

And people just continue to let them do it. And they keep pushing the envelope. Have you noticed how many stories lately have gone like this?

"Game company announces game, game will have this controversial feature about it. Massive fan backlash against controversial feature, developer rolls back feature, gamers rejoice in their "victory", and buy game."

They're constantly trying to roll out controversial features. Because occasionally, one will slip through. Then the bar is moved, and it'll never go back. That thing that was controversial becomes the new normal. That's where we are with microtransactions and DLC now.

The problem is that the people who complain about it are a vocal minority online. Not that what they are doing shouldn't be criticized, but in their eyes, it doesn't matter, because the much larger, more casual/mainstream audience either does not know or care about their actions and will buy regardless.
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PiOverlord
05/23/19 4:00:45 PM
#138:


marc55 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Hop103 posted...
$120 game in 2019?

Don't buy this game. This game is not worth $120.


I agree. I'm not buying half a game at a time.

If both halves were 30 bucks then maybe

i will

i played Digital devil saga 1 and 2 the mass effect trilogy ,hack gu and even FFXIII trilogy

games with the story split in parts / episodic like this arent new to me they go way back

Terrible analogy.
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hollow_shrine
05/23/19 4:02:35 PM
#139:


PiOverlord posted...
marc55 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Hop103 posted...
$120 game in 2019?

Don't buy this game. This game is not worth $120.


I agree. I'm not buying half a game at a time.

If both halves were 30 bucks then maybe

i will

i played Digital devil saga 1 and 2 the mass effect trilogy ,hack gu and even FFXIII trilogy

games with the story split in parts / episodic like this arent new to me they go way back

Terrible analogy.

Why? If each half of this FF7 remake has as much content as DDS1 and 2, then this is 100% fair to me.

Engage with that post. Why is it a terrible analogy?
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darkphoenix181
05/23/19 4:03:27 PM
#140:


Solar_Crimson posted...
This isn't Tales.

...Or Dead or Alive.


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CRON
05/23/19 4:15:29 PM
#141:


AlisLandale posted...
No turn based no buy

Why would anyone want turn-based gameplay in 2019?
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Darkninja42
05/23/19 4:17:07 PM
#142:


hollow_shrine posted...
PiOverlord posted...
marc55 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Hop103 posted...
$120 game in 2019?

Don't buy this game. This game is not worth $120.


I agree. I'm not buying half a game at a time.

If both halves were 30 bucks then maybe

i will

i played Digital devil saga 1 and 2 the mass effect trilogy ,hack gu and even FFXIII trilogy

games with the story split in parts / episodic like this arent new to me they go way back

Terrible analogy.

Why? If each half of this FF7 remake has as much content as DDS1 and 2, then this is 100% fair to me.

Engage with that post. Why is it a terrible analogy?

It's taking something that was already completed as one experience and splitting it in half. Being a part of a trilogy isn't the same because (ideally) each of those can still be taken on their own as something with a beginning, middle and end. If FF7 didn't already exist as one game previously then there wouldn't be the backlash because there's nothing to compare it to.

A better analogy is when movies based on books are split into two parts, and then a bunch of filler is placed in to justify splitting them. Granted, we obviously don't know how Remake will be fleshed out so it could work better here.

If any of this ends up being true anyway.
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Twin3Turbo
05/23/19 4:18:29 PM
#143:


Darkninja42 posted...
A better analogy is when movies based on books are split into two parts, and then a bunch of filler is placed in to justify splitting them. Granted, we obviously don't know how Remake will be fleshed out so it could work better here.

This is pretty much the same thought I had. It's how I'm thinking of it. I don't really care enough to complain about it.
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Solar_Crimson
05/23/19 4:18:53 PM
#144:


CRON posted...
AlisLandale posted...
No turn based no buy

Why would anyone want turn-based gameplay in 2019?

Why not?
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mech dragon
05/23/19 4:22:17 PM
#145:


Can someone who me a comparison of Tifa's face from FF7 and Advent Children?
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 4:23:10 PM
#146:


Solar_Crimson posted...
CRON posted...
AlisLandale posted...
No turn based no buy

Why would anyone want turn-based gameplay in 2019?

Why not?

You can't have this super realistic looking game and then make characters bob up and down like a mortal kombat arcade where all the buttons are broken until a random menu pops up asking what option (of which like 40 are available but only 2 or 3 are worth using at any given time) they'd like to do at which point the game plays itself for a little while, then back to broken mortal kombat arcade.
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Kaz13
05/23/19 4:27:54 PM
#147:


mybbqrules posted...
Kaz13 posted...
Holy fuck if that Part 1, Part 2, etc nonsense is true. Gaming exploitation has reached a new level and people will support this shit because of nostalgia. Literally selling half a game for full price.


This is why I bowed out of owning a console after the 360. Video game companies aren't trying to make games for loyal customers anymore. They're trying to give as little as they can to fleece you for every dime they can get. Pre-order, day one dlc (I.E, shit that we removed from the completed game to charge you extra money to get back), microtransactions, etc etc etc.

And people just continue to let them do it. And they keep pushing the envelope. Have you noticed how many stories lately have gone like this?

"Game company announces game, game will have this controversial feature about it. Massive fan backlash against controversial feature, developer rolls back feature, gamers rejoice in their "victory", and buy game."

They're constantly trying to roll out controversial features. Because occasionally, one will slip through. Then the bar is moved, and it'll never go back. That thing that was controversial becomes the new normal. That's where we are with microtransactions and DLC now.

Wise man. I've mostly done the same though I did get a ps4 for cheap since I've got friends who play on that platform. Never again. Either go PC or stay a casual who gets hypenotized.

The positive is that there are more and more people taking a stand but I've been calling this out since around 2007/8. Sucks that its taken this long but at least people are waking up.
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/19 4:33:00 PM
#148:


mech dragon posted...
Can someone who me a comparison of Tifa's face from FF7 and Advent Children?

Advent Children face is pretty different.

Original official:
jUGVUJY

Dissidia Duodecim 012:
TRRKVSz

Advent Children:
uvLsSIT
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marc55
05/23/19 4:36:06 PM
#149:


Darkninja42 posted...
those can still be taken on their own as something with a beginning, middle and end

digital devil saga and the hack games ended in something more like " to be continued "
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Mistere Man
05/23/19 4:36:35 PM
#150:


CRON posted...
AlisLandale posted...
No turn based no buy

Why would anyone want turn-based gameplay in 2019?

People like different things, and action has been around just as long as turn based. Both can be fun, both can be terrible.
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