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GrimCyclone
05/13/19 5:42:32 PM
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Lokarin
05/13/19 5:43:39 PM
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I have a problem/non-problem with The Quartering 'cuz the guy looks JUST like a guy I know
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Entity13
05/13/19 5:49:39 PM
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Kotaku is a bad joke. The best thing we can do is ignore it exists.
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GrimCyclone
05/13/19 5:51:07 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I have a problem/non-problem with The Quartering 'cuz the guy looks JUST like a guy I know

Im sure many people have a problem with him because hes not woke enough. Hes actually a librul. Regardless of him or not, the article is still the article.

Never thought Id see the day when Id side with neckbeard libs like TheQuartering against even further left versions of him.

Its almost like the Democratic Party made an announcement saying, Ok, were going woke now. Plz join us. 1/2 stayed liberals and kinda are just grumbling like The Amazing Atheist and others are kinda centrist now like TheQuartering while neolibs call them alt right. Even though they have nothing to do with the alt right.

What theyre basically saying is, If youre not with us 100% shut your mouth or yer bad!

Meanwhile, in reality, IM the goddam centrist libertarian and TheQuartering is still a liberal to me. Its not my fault new people wanted to change the spectrum.

What really happens is normal libs, like the ones on this board, migrate to where ever their party goes. And they think thats just fine. They are fine with moving left, just as long as its never right. They wont change that opinion until the far left they dont really identify with sink the country and make them miserable. But even then, theyll never side with the right. Theyll just pine for the old days like the Clinton or Obama years.
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Judgmenl
05/13/19 5:55:55 PM
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Youtube hate mongers are a joke.
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GrimCyclone
05/13/19 6:00:15 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Youtube hate mongers are a joke.

lol if you think a little beta like Jeremy is a hate monger, youd think Im the goddam devil incarnate. No wonder people like you call Republicans Nazis. Even though they literally fought and defeated them.

In reality, anyone pushing their ideology as law on fellow citizens against their own personal freedom is a fascist. If you cant just life and let life then youre the enemy. No one wants to live by your own personal creed or religion. They want to be left alone.
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dainkinkaide
05/13/19 6:01:11 PM
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Isn't this the same dumbass who bought a case of Rose Tico action figures just so he could destroy them on camera, thereby demonstrating that he doesn't seem to know that companies don't care why you buy the merchandise, only that you buy the merchandise?

Or am I thinking of some other dumbass?
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/13/19 6:01:52 PM
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TheQuartering is a piece of human garbage that frequently posts clickbait and insane conspiracy theories to push his dumbass agenda. He's one of the major reasons why anti-feminism is becoming more of a problem than feminism itself.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/13/19 6:04:00 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
Isn't this the same dumbass who bought a case of Rose Tico action figures just so he could destroy them on camera, thereby demonstrating that he doesn't seem to know that companies don't care why you buy the merchandise, only that you buy the merchandise?

Or am I thinking of some other dumbass?

No that was Ethan van Sciver, someone who is equally as insane as TheQuartering.
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dainkinkaide
05/13/19 6:06:04 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
No that was Ethan van Sciver, someone who is equally as insane as TheQuartering.

I always get those two confused.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/13/19 6:15:39 PM
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Do you think you're smart because you can type real big long posts lmao?

See, I don't care, truly. I'd rather have little influence in this world than be someone who became famous because he posts insane conspiracy theories daily and further pushes our world into a post-fact era by influencing others to believe his contrived, insane garble.

It's insane that we can live in a world that is heavily governed by a country with a right-wing president and overall mostly right-wing legislature but people still believe that things like "leftism" and "feminism" are going to destroy everything we love.
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papercup
05/13/19 6:35:23 PM
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GrimCyclone posted...
Lokarin posted...
I have a problem/non-problem with The Quartering 'cuz the guy looks JUST like a guy I know

Im sure many people have a problem with him because hes not woke enough. Hes actually a librul. Regardless of him or not, the article is still the article.

Never thought Id see the day when Id side with neckbeard libs like TheQuartering against even further left versions of him.

Its almost like the Democratic Party made an announcement saying, Ok, were going woke now. Plz join us. 1/2 stayed liberals and kinda are just grumbling like The Amazing Atheist and others are kinda centrist now like TheQuartering while neolibs call them alt right. Even though they have nothing to do with the alt right.

What theyre basically saying is, If youre not with us 100% shut your mouth or yer bad!

Meanwhile, in reality, IM the goddam centrist libertarian and TheQuartering is still a liberal to me. Its not my fault new people wanted to change the spectrum.

What really happens is normal libs, like the ones on this board, migrate to where ever their party goes. And they think thats just fine. They are fine with moving left, just as long as its never right. They wont change that opinion until the far left they dont really identify with sink the country and make them miserable. But even then, theyll never side with the right. Theyll just pine for the old days like the Clinton or Obama years.


wut. "liberal"? He's a massive Trump fan, the hell are you babbling about?
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TigerTycoon
05/13/19 7:04:41 PM
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Don't forget Kotaku's other greatest hits like "I heard offensive words used in a Persona song sung by a native Japanese person pronouncing English words".
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The_tall_midget
05/13/19 7:04:44 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
It's insane that we can live in a world that is heavily governed by a country with a right-wing president and overall mostly right-wing legislature but people still believe that things like "leftism" and "feminism" are going to destroy everything we love.


Feminism has been demonstrated to have the very effect on a country/civilization that cancer has on the human body.

It also helps promotes even more useless/crazy ideologies and all that insanity that stems from it can be seen every single day. Women in the west are even more privileged and protected than ANY group since the dawn of mankind, and yet they still play the victim card and still demand to even more socialism and privileges.

But I am smirking, since I know that feminism and socialism will eventually kill themselves; they are self-eradicating ideologies.
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The_tall_midget
05/13/19 7:05:39 PM
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Kotaku making fools of themselves again? Guess it's to be expected from a sjw/leftist news outlet.
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Judgmenl
05/13/19 7:19:53 PM
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GrimCyclone posted...
Judgmenl posted...
Youtube hate mongers are a joke.

lol if you think a little beta like Jeremy is a hate monger, youd think Im the goddam devil incarnate. No wonder people like you call Republicans Nazis. Even though they literally fought and defeated them.

In reality, anyone pushing their ideology as law on fellow citizens against their own personal freedom is a fascist. If you cant just live and let live then youre the enemy. No one wants to live by your own personal creed or religion. They want to be left alone.


lol
The irony is that I recently wrote up a post about people labeling me as a "nazi" today.
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Lokarin
05/13/19 7:22:06 PM
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The cool thing about labels is that they have to be self applied!

I mean, if you want people to use your gender labels - you need to respect their nazi labels... otherwise huge hypocricy
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Oops_All_Berrys
05/13/19 7:22:23 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
It's insane that we can live in a world that is heavily governed by a country with a right-wing president and overall mostly right-wing legislature but people still believe that things like "leftism" and "feminism" are going to destroy everything we love.


Feminism has been demonstrated to have the very effect on a country/civilization that cancer has on the human body.

It also helps promotes even more useless/crazy ideologies and all that insanity that stems from it can be seen every single day. Women in the west are even more privileged and protected than ANY group since the dawn of mankind, and yet they still play the victim card and still demand to even more socialism and privileges.

But I am smirking, since I know that feminism and socialism will eventually kill themselves; they are self-eradicating ideologies.

Smirk your way all the way to a lonely grave
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Sonicplys
05/13/19 7:51:34 PM
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Final Fantasy VII Remake looks like trash garbage. I can't believe you people are hyped about this crap.
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dainkinkaide
05/13/19 8:02:51 PM
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First of all, could we please put a moratorium on the idiotic notion of crediting articles not to the individual who wrote them, but rather some monolithic entity. It's fucking stupid.

So, I actually read the article. Gita Jackson (who, I might add, is not named "Kotaku") has penned a take that is nuanced, often humorous in tone, and well-researched (and not, in any way, "whining"). Jeremy Hambly, on the other hand, has crafted a take on that article that is blunt, seeking only to mock rather than understand, and devoid of critical merit.
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ChaosAzeroth
05/13/19 8:13:18 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
First of all, could we please put a moratorium on the idiotic notion of crediting articles not to the individual who wrote them, but rather some monolithic entity. It's f***ing stupid.


Fair, but at the same time I think that people expect a company to fire people who suck at their jobs and to promote those who are good. Hence the putting blame on the company, or saying positive things about it when an employee does something right.

I think we should do both in a way, credit or discredit the individual but also point out when a company is keeping bad or good employees staffed. I don't think we should let them of the hook for allowing crap any more than the individual should be let off the hook for creating crap.
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Bowdler
05/13/19 8:15:28 PM
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I would say there is a kernel of truth to the statement. What annoyed me is when ffxiii was getting similar accusations.
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Nade Duck
05/13/19 8:27:44 PM
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she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.
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Sefrig
05/13/19 8:47:53 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.

yeah fuck her opinion!

...now i'm going to go find out what her opinion is since nobody actually posted the the article in here
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Aculo
05/13/19 8:53:21 PM
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Entity13 posted...
Kotaku is a bad joke. The best thing we can do is ignore it exists.

Aren't you trans? You're betraying your people if you don't read Kotaku and polygon, ok?
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dainkinkaide
05/13/19 8:54:08 PM
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Sefrig posted...
yeah fuck her opinion!

...now i'm going to go find out what her opinion is since nobody actually posted the the article in here

Here you go:
https://kotaku.com/fans-are-concerned-about-barrets-voice-in-the-final-fan-1834678296

Nade Duck posted...
she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.

To be fair, the original game is mediocre at best and doesn't live up to the hype.
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Sefrig
05/13/19 8:57:21 PM
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yeah i'm not really in the business of telling a black woman she's wrong for her opinions on how a black character is portrayed but y'all have fun with that i guess
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Sefrig
05/13/19 8:59:07 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.

this concerns voice acting which the original game didn't have, so i don't think it's actually relevant here
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dioxxys
05/13/19 10:32:51 PM
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lol the kotaku comments are horrible.

Literally some self proclaimed black guy comments about how he thought the trailer hit the voice on the head but then inexplicibly realized there was a problem once kotaku brought this to light.

Who really cares if a some black dude speaks with ebonics?
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DeathMagnetic80
05/13/19 10:41:12 PM
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I mean, I've said since the 90s that Barrett is a kind of a black stereotype.
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Nade Duck
05/13/19 10:46:17 PM
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Sefrig posted...
Nade Duck posted...
she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.

this concerns voice acting which the original game didn't have, so i don't think it's actually relevant here

barrett's voice suits his character just fine. if you don't like it then you literally just don't like the character.

if she really cared enough about the game like she implies she does, she could have found time in the past two decades to try it out on the many platforms it's available on. it's her fault she didn't know what to expect.
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Nade Duck
05/13/19 10:50:08 PM
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DeathMagnetic80 posted...
I mean, I've said since the 90s that Barrett is a kind of a black stereotype.

i don't even disagree, but cid is white trash and beats his wife so it's not like they're picking on just the one race here.
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Sefrig
05/13/19 11:05:30 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
Sefrig posted...
Nade Duck posted...
she hasn't even played the original game, fuck her opinion.

this concerns voice acting which the original game didn't have, so i don't think it's actually relevant here

barrett's voice suits his character just fine. if you don't like it then you literally just don't like the character.

if she really cared enough about the game like she implies she does, she could have found time in the past two decades to try it out on the many platforms it's available on. it's her fault she didn't know what to expect.

ok you really cant understand why it would be topical given the remake just got a trailer? a whole bunch of people are going to exposed to this game that were too young or never bothered to try it before and theyre going to form opinions on it, are they somehow invalid? this is really not even an argument. nobodys going to bother writing this about a 20 year old game and you would say it was dumb if they did
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Doe
05/13/19 11:05:42 PM
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The Quartering is the most debased possible "get woke go broke" clickbait
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Sefrig
05/13/19 11:09:48 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Literally some self proclaimed black guy comments about how he thought the trailer hit the voice on the head but then inexplicibly realized there was a problem once kotaku brought this to light.

i mean gita jackson, who wrote the article (and not kotaku), is a black woman
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Muscles
05/13/19 11:24:10 PM
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Sefrig posted...
dioxxys posted...
Literally some self proclaimed black guy comments about how he thought the trailer hit the voice on the head but then inexplicibly realized there was a problem once kotaku brought this to light.

i mean gita jackson, who wrote the article (and not kotaku), is a black woman

What's that have to do with anything? That doesn't make you an expert at character development or story structure
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Sefrig
05/13/19 11:46:01 PM
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Muscles posted...
What's that have to do with anything?

when it comes to a black character? quite a lot actually
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Muscles
05/13/19 11:49:35 PM
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No, it really doesn't, being black doesn't mean you know how to write a good character
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Sefrig
05/13/19 11:50:39 PM
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it means you know what stereotypes of black people are do keep up
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Muscles
05/13/19 11:59:18 PM
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Ok, ands theres millions of white people that couldn't write a white character for shit, most people can't write characters, even of their own race
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Doe
05/14/19 12:02:25 AM
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I don't think it needs to be explained that a black person will have an easier time writing someone who's spent their life being black than a white person. It's just experiential. Saying some white people cant write at all doesnt change that.
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NeoSioType
05/14/19 12:02:53 AM
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I mean... He's a 6'5" muscled black dude that thought it was a good idea to have a machine gun for an arm.

How's he suppose to sound?
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Nade Duck
05/14/19 12:08:40 AM
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okay can we cut out cid then too cause not every white dude abuses his wife.
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Muscles
05/14/19 12:10:08 AM
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Doe posted...
I don't think it needs to be explained that a black person will have an easier time writing someone who's spent their life being black than a white person. It's just experiential. Saying some white people cant write at all doesnt change that.

I think a pro writer like these guys, or say Stephen King would write a better black character than a majority of black people
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Doe
05/14/19 12:24:27 AM
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You're missing the point. It's not professional white writer vs random black guy, its professional white writer vs professional black writer. The random black writer in your case is only not capable of writing a more true black character because they're not a writer.

If you took two non-writers, a black one will typically write a more realistic black character
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Muscles
05/14/19 12:34:28 AM
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Throwing the race card around with no actual legitimate argument about the character or story isn't the sign of a professional writer, sorry that I didn't realise she was more than a whiny sjw
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dioxxys
05/14/19 12:56:31 AM
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Whether being your race makes you somehow an expert on caricatures is irrelevant.

Exaggeration is what makes many things in entertainment good many times.
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The_tall_midget
05/14/19 2:51:37 AM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
Smirk your way all the way to a lonely grave


I guess killing millions of people to try and satisfy the never ending whims of a small, insignificant group of narcissistic women will help sjw's be able to quiet the voices in their heads at night. It's all good as long as you can virtue signal and feel morally superior, right?

If we take ALL the countries that have been pushing feminism and identity politics hard for the last 80 or so years, you'll notice they usually all share the same issues. Whether it's cultural, financial, or demographically. Funny how diversity is apparently not a strength after all. And it's funny that people are still too stupid to understand that feminism, while initially promoting it, eventually leads to the end of socialism and vice versa. Guess it's the same morons that will have to learn from history once again and then blame everyone but themselves.
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Bulbasaur
05/14/19 3:25:23 AM
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are some of you really trying to argue that Barret, a black character created in the 90s by the Japanese, isn't a gigantic black stereotype?

am i really seeing this
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