Poll of the Day > Cyborg quickly fixes some GoT S. 8 plot points to make it better. Obv. SPOILERS

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CyborgSage00x0
05/13/19 1:53:45 AM
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*Warning: This topic obviously contains massive spoilers regarding GoT Season 8, and GoT as a whole*

Right.

So despite this season being a wonderful spectacle in terms or action, cinematography, and acting, I think it's universally agreed upon that a lot of the character and plot points have been an inconsistent mess, mostly for the sake of subverting expectations. ITT of boredom, I throw a few obvious (and not obvious) ideas to make some of what was shown this season better.

Problem: Arya killing the Night King.
Why it's a Problem: 2 fold: It's illogical and denies Bran Stark (the Three-Eyed Raven) a point of existing not only this season, but almost at all in the whole series.
First, it's a total Mary Sue moment for Arya, and D&D flat-out admitted they did it just to be unexpected. How did she Spider-Man into the middle of the godswood, and from where? How did she slip past everyone? We know Arya has stealth and sneaking in the bag, but you gotta show us how she snuck past everyone. And defeating the unstoppable killing machine that is the Night King with just a sleight of hand is as unconvincing as it is lazy.

More importantly, the series has spent a long time establishing a clear connection between the Three-Eyed Raven and the Night King, and blatantly saying so in Ep. 2 of this season. Bran volunteers to bait the Night King, then spends half the episode warging for what looks to be some plan or scheme. The clues are there to believe that the Three-Eyed Raven has special insight/powers to beat the Night King. But no. And without that, Bran's character serves virtually no point to the story, and hasn't for many seasons. Much like how Arya gained assassination skills while away, and Sansa gained a fucking clue, Bran also returned home different and with abilities, and is supposed to show them off. Maybe he doesn't have to be the one per se to kill the Night King, but he should be more than just grub on a fishing line.

Fix to the Problem: Bran un-makes the Night King against the Weirwood tree.
This one makes too much sense. It doesn't matter if he does it via special Three-Eyed Raven magic, warging, a trap, w/e. Having him un-do the Night King with the knowledge and powers of the Three-Eyed Raven against a weirtree, symbolically and actually un-making the Night King the same way he was made, makes too much sense, and gives Bran a real purpose for fucking around North of the Wall this whole time. It also allows Arya to have a "big" moment later, when it makes more sense.

Problem: Rhaegal (dragon) being shot down by Euron/Iron Fleet. Drogon easily destroying said fleet/Scorpions.
Why it's a Problem:The internet has already reviewed to hell and back how problematic the scene was where Euron downs Rhaegal with the Scorpions (how coudl they not be seen from so high up? How would there not be scouts ships that would be ahead of the main convoy? Etc.). Like too much of the battles in this season, logic is sacrificed for spectacle/rushing the plot forward. But Euron's ships have to be hidden WAY better for any of that to be convincing. But OK, fine, let's say that all happened as show.

Well, tonight's episode shows that, with like 5x the amount of Scorpions, including the same Iron Fleet with Euron that already killed one, and only 1 dragon target to aim at, somehow everyone turns into Imperial Stormtroopers and can't hit shit. Not only that, there were a few shots of people manning the Scorpions, Drogon fly right past them, and no one firing. It's incredibly jarring to show Scorpions to be an ace-in-the-hole one episode, and then completely useless the next. It's just sloppy.
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CyborgSage00x0
05/13/19 1:53:51 AM
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Fix to the Problem:
I mean, anything that's actually consistent would fix the problem, and there's a number of ways to go about that.
How about this: go with me on this idea. So let's have Euron kill the dragon. FIne. And leave it at it's dangerous to approach King's Landing via ship and with dragon in tow. So how do they get past Euron?
Yara Greyjoy. But Yara has a much smaller fleet after retaking the Iron Islands. But what if (way out of left field now) Yara, as the rightful heir to the throne, can summon the Kraken? After all, all the other mythical creatures that are sigils for the major houses exists, so why not a Kraken? This allows for an entertaining underdog sea battle where Yara pulls out a spectacle of a trump card to clear the seas. Too much? Hey, it's no less stupid than what we actually got.

Problem: Almost every character pulling a 180 in character development this season.
Why it's a Problem: Because it moronically destroys seasons of character arcs with a sickening crack.
Theon is lucky: He got a complete character arc, and was killed before D&D decided to randomly revert him to Reek. Since that's essentially what they have done to everyone else. Tyrion is now an idiot who makes rookie mistakes, to the point where even Dany gives him mini-monologues on how deception works. He also now really gives a shit about randos in King's Landing, despite leaving the city in S.3 wishing everyone had burned and he hadn't saved them. OK, he definitely has softened since then, believing in Dany and all. But then Dany takes all of the compassion she has spent seasons learning, and throws it out the window by going full Mad King. It's like they swapped character motivations. And you know, I actually don't mind Dany going off the rails in theory so much. I mean, her character has always been a naive, selfish idiot who has to surround herself with wiser and smarter people to suppress her (likely due to incest) skin-deep psycho tendencies. I just wish we had more than like 1 episode to establish her losing her grip via her family and friends dying, but even that doesn't explain her going nuts on the town after victory was in hand.

Then there's Jamie going back to Cersei, despite his entire arc being him wising up over what a turbo-bitch she is, Bronn randomly going back to full-sellsword mode and believing an empty promise (despite complaining about them 2 breaths earlier), etc. upon etc.
Fix the the Problem: Don't destroy established character arcs in a few episodes.

Problem: Arya being in King's Landing was pointless.
Why it's a Problem: Arya got her "big" moment already by killing the Night King, so no one is dumb enough to think she'll have another one in King's Landing. Which is a shame, since it makes way more sense to have a big moment there than the Battle of Winterfell.
Fix the the Problem:Like I said above, the Stark kids spent all the show away from home gaining skills, so the pay-off is we get to see those skills in action. Arya had a bit one a few seasons back when she killed Walder Frey and used his face to kill all the Freys.
So why not do that with...Littlefinger?
It's pretty odd that neither Cersei nor anyone remarks that Littlefinger has been away in the North for a long time. Last Cersei heard, he was a loyal servant to her, trying to take the North back for her. And no one outside of Winterfell knows he's dead. So why not something cool, like have Arya wear Littlefinger's face, march into King's Landing, and spring a trap from within? Destroy the walls with dragonfire or something. Assassinate Cersei. Something. Give her a big moment that makes a lot more sense here.

There's more, like how unsatisfying Jamie's death (and maybe to a lesser extent) and Cersei's death were, but that's all I can be bothered with.

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ParanoidObsessive
05/13/19 5:57:16 AM
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You've now spent more time thinking about any of this than Benioff and Weiss ever did.


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Bowdler
05/13/19 7:45:08 AM
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Okay for a second there I thought you wanted to add the teen titan to got.
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papercup
05/13/19 9:01:51 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
You've now spent more time thinking about any of this than Benioff and Weiss ever did.



I sometimes wonder if either of them have ever actually watched their show.
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CyborgSage00x0
05/13/19 8:47:51 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
You've now spent more time thinking about any of this than Benioff and Weiss ever did.


Funny part is, that took way longer to write than to even think of. I don't even think any of my ideas are that radical or bombastic, but they feel like they would make way, way more sense.
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SpaceBear_
05/13/19 9:25:55 PM
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Ignoring the quote from DnD that went "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet", in the last post episode interview one of the them mispronounced "Missandei" and I threw my phone at the TV.
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wwinterj25
05/13/19 9:31:28 PM
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Should have just wrote. "Waaahhhhh the script writers didn't make it how I had it in my own head!". I mean your "fixing" is actually worse than what the script writers wrote.
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SpaceBear_
05/13/19 9:32:43 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Should have just wrote. "Waaahhhhh the script writers didn't make it how I had it in my own head!". I mean your "fixing" is actually worse than what the script writers wrote.


No it isn't, you bad meff
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