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darkknight109
05/08/19 4:40:58 AM
#53:


dancer62 posted...
Actually, we have plenty of gun laws.

If you think the US has "plenty" of gun laws, you need to go visit literally any other country.
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ArvTheGreat
05/08/19 4:42:32 AM
#54:


next time you feel the need to troll a kid think about this maybe you people are the problem not the guns and put the problem on yourselves what dumb ass things are people going to say next? "if you don't want things stolen from your stores stop selling products or ban people from shopping" you people need to start holding yourselves accountable instead of pushing the blame on things that can't even talk. "look at europe or other countries look at how many shootings are there none so it must work!" arv looked up murders through out the world. apparently you dont need guns to do something like this. lets ask jack the ripper or the london bomber.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40147164 these guys werent using guns to kill people but what stopped them from killing innocent people? guns

arv just wants to point out a lot of you are dumb asses and don't really know what you are talking about
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Sonicplys
05/08/19 5:24:16 AM
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Mead
05/08/19 5:37:07 AM
#56:


Sonicplys posted...
Nobodycaresanymore


Maybe you dont
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Kyuubi4269
05/08/19 6:37:30 AM
#57:


Mead posted...
Keebs05 posted...
Mead posted...
Keebs05 posted...
Before adding more laws, why not fix the ones already on the books?


Because we can do more than one thing at a time.

Have you met your local politician?


Have you considered that it may be worth trying to do something, even if its difficult, to make vulnerable people get murdered not quite so often?

Have you considered how splitting already thin resources means nothing gets done?

Also government focuses on gun regulation because these events allow them to push an agenda they already had in mind. Their plans aren't designed to stop school shooters, it's to make the public less scary for them.

darkknight109 posted...
dancer62 posted...
Actually, we have plenty of gun laws.

If you think the US has "plenty" of gun laws, you need to go visit literally any other country.


They do have plenty, they're just ridiculous and don't do much to control crime. The UK doesn't have a lot of gun laws, we just have a few sweeping general ones that block out anything you might want.
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SmokeMassTree
05/08/19 7:46:54 AM
#59:


It okay guys. I just checked on all of my firearms and they haven't left their cage/table/wall/holster. As far as I can tell they also haven't killed anyone.

I'll keep an eye on them tho.
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SkynyrdRocker
05/08/19 8:58:29 AM
#60:


Cacciato posted...
CTLM posted...
Mead posted...
May we have some moderate gun laws please

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/denver-area-school-shooting-leaves-several-injured-11557268590


More laws won't change this. This just makes it harder on law abiding gun owners or soon to be owners.

This. Thats why theres so many school shootings in Europe.

I love how many idiots thought this was a serious post
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Superlinkbro
05/08/19 9:38:56 AM
#61:


Mead posted...
May we have some moderate gun laws please

And better mental health treatment
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Mead
05/08/19 9:40:14 AM
#62:


Superlinkbro posted...
Mead posted...
May we have some moderate gun laws please

And better mental health treatment


Absolutely
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Mead
05/08/19 9:53:54 AM
#64:


Take away all the guns and there will just be mass bayonet-ings in schools

All those countries with actual legislation regarding firearms. Their schoolchildren are forced to murder each other with sticks
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Kyuubi4269
05/08/19 9:55:44 AM
#65:


Mead posted...
All those countries with actual legislation regarding firearms. Their schoolchildren are forced to murder each other with sticks

When I was in school, somebody got stabbed in the eye with scissors and kids rovin' around shanking people is pretty common.
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Mead
05/08/19 9:59:52 AM
#66:


Wow I didnt realize it was a weekly occurrence in the UK for some kid to just up and stab a dozen or so people to death before someone can stop em. That sounds pretty rough I hope it gets better
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SunWuKung420
05/08/19 10:20:47 AM
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It's not the weapons, it's the mentality of "I'm unhappy with my life, therefore, others must suffer with me."
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Kyuubi4269
05/08/19 10:29:09 AM
#68:


Mead posted...
Wow I didnt realize it was a weekly occurrence in the UK for some kid to just up and stab a dozen or so people to death before someone can stop em. That sounds pretty rough I hope it gets better

285 stabbings 2017-18 and we have a pretty safety conscious and anti-violence culture.

You guys will have a lot of deaths regardless with your atrocious culture.
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Dark_Spiret
05/08/19 10:39:57 AM
#69:


Mead posted...
Take away all the guns and there will just be mass bayonet-ings in schools
less guns=less mass shootings. this isnt rocket science. however that doesnt mean those lives are saved. theres lots of ways to kill a lot of people if they feel the need to do so. but yes it could mean less people getting killed in schools theoretically.

however many dont realize the other aspects to getting rid of guns. when you get down to it mass shootings and school shootings take up something like 2% of total gun homicides. getting rid of them will only have a minimal effect while opening up people to more violence and death by having less means of deterrence. statistically pretty much all other forms of violence and crime increase with a gun ban (rape and home invasions especially) and considering how much more violent in general the US is (not including firearm homicides) its not going to be a fun time. and thats assuming you wait the decades for the 400million guns in circulation to dry up and hoping that the criminals wont make their own (thanks to the internet and 3d printing its as easy as ever) or buy illegal imports through mexico and south america which would boom and we all know how well the drug war is doing.
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Mead
05/08/19 10:48:00 AM
#70:


Common sense gun legislation =\= getting rid of all guns

Its really not that hard to understand people
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Dark_Spiret
05/08/19 11:13:52 AM
#71:


Mead posted...
Common sense gun legislation =\= getting rid of all guns
theres not much common sense when it comes to guns in the US. they are a right here and the gun control side is obsessed with getting them out of the hands of people who wouldnt do anything nefarious with them. if not outright bans the next step is to put as many stop gaps into the system of trying to get a gun that no one bothers with which funny enough is mainly going to hurt the lower class and not effect the elites, which is always a good sign.

now thats not to say there arnt things we can do, but one side wants the object and to piss on a large community of the country and the other wants to do nothing.

putting a bigger emphasis on healthcare and legalizing more drugs, mandatory government funded gun safety courses and packaged deals on biometric gun safes along with plugging holes in the laws we already have would go a long way to curve gun deaths. theres actually a lot of things we can do that would also be much more beneficial to society overall without even touching the object. unfortunately the only ones who want to have that conversation also wants to fuck over gun owners. i actually know a lot of people who would probably vote for a decent amount of democrats if gun control wasnt a mandatory of the party.
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Mead
05/08/19 11:17:19 AM
#72:


Dark_Spiret posted...
the gun control side is obsessed with getting them out of the hands of people who wouldnt do anything nefarious with them.


Fake news pushed by right wing media

Practical gun legislation is a world away from taking guns away from gun owners. Even most NRA members polled think that better background checks would be a good thing
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Dark_Spiret
05/08/19 11:28:08 AM
#73:


Mead posted...
Fake news pushed by right wing media
i dont watch right wing media. i watch what left wing politicians largely want out of their own mouths.

most people maybe only want a few very very basic laws, but what people want isnt always what politicians are pushing. and a lot of what they are pushing have been PROVEN to not work, but they still see fit to try anyway largely based on their emotions. ohh a gun is black, it holds a magazine, it has a compensater!, oh lordy lord it looks evil! no one needs that! ..but lets ignore this other one because its made of wood and looks less intimidating despite it functioning the same.

and when you get down to it most people just dont give a shit. it doesnt take much to click a box in a poll. its another to get out and actually vote, donate, rally, call representatives ect.
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Moonjay
05/08/19 12:49:26 PM
#74:


ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
I am a liberal so like not all liberals have a problem with the idea of enforced mental health care for people who are a known danger.

And for the record since the subject came up, I certainly don't mean mad doctor mutilation crap, I mean actual care. From caring professionals.

Like I got unwillingly put in a mental hospital for psychosis but I wasn't even a danger to others. And that's great, I needed it. I'm also not allowed to own a gun for five years from the last time I was in the hospital. Also fine. And yet people who beat their children, people who stalk and rape, people who are known to the police as dangerous don't get mental health care AND get to keep their guns. Madness.


"Known to be dangerous to the police" is pretty vague, but all of those other things make you a prohibited person when it comes to firearms.


I'm not sure of your point there? I already just said I can't own guns.

Most mass shooters have a history of threats and violence. Violence against women and children especially. If someone has threatened their neighbors and stalked an ex and beaten children and fought the cops and and and and... Why should they keep their guns?
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Cacciato
05/08/19 5:11:25 PM
#76:


SkynyrdRocker posted...
Cacciato posted...
CTLM posted...
Mead posted...
May we have some moderate gun laws please

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/denver-area-school-shooting-leaves-several-injured-11557268590


More laws won't change this. This just makes it harder on law abiding gun owners or soon to be owners.

This. Thats why theres so many school shootings in Europe.

I love how many idiots thought this was a serious post

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CarefreeDude
05/08/19 5:43:10 PM
#77:


The only real solution here is to genetically modify kids to be bulletproof; that way any school shooting will only amount to property damage.
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Moonjay
05/08/19 5:43:44 PM
#78:


CarefreeDude posted...
The only real solution here is to genetically modify kids to be bulletproof; that way any school shooting will only amount to property damage.


I'm on board with this.
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ultra magnus13
05/08/19 6:48:10 PM
#79:


Moonjay posted...
ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
I am a liberal so like not all liberals have a problem with the idea of enforced mental health care for people who are a known danger.

And for the record since the subject came up, I certainly don't mean mad doctor mutilation crap, I mean actual care. From caring professionals.

Like I got unwillingly put in a mental hospital for psychosis but I wasn't even a danger to others. And that's great, I needed it. I'm also not allowed to own a gun for five years from the last time I was in the hospital. Also fine. And yet people who beat their children, people who stalk and rape, people who are known to the police as dangerous don't get mental health care AND get to keep their guns. Madness.


"Known to be dangerous to the police" is pretty vague, but all of those other things make you a prohibited person when it comes to firearms.


I'm not sure of your point there? I already just said I can't own guns.

Most mass shooters have a history of threats and violence. Violence against women and children especially. If someone has threatened their neighbors and stalked an ex and beaten children and fought the cops and and and and... Why should they keep their guns?


They can't..... That is what I said in my post. Domestic violence, or a felony prohibit a person from possessing or purchasing a firearm.
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CTLM
05/08/19 6:56:35 PM
#80:


ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
I am a liberal so like not all liberals have a problem with the idea of enforced mental health care for people who are a known danger.

And for the record since the subject came up, I certainly don't mean mad doctor mutilation crap, I mean actual care. From caring professionals.

Like I got unwillingly put in a mental hospital for psychosis but I wasn't even a danger to others. And that's great, I needed it. I'm also not allowed to own a gun for five years from the last time I was in the hospital. Also fine. And yet people who beat their children, people who stalk and rape, people who are known to the police as dangerous don't get mental health care AND get to keep their guns. Madness.


"Known to be dangerous to the police" is pretty vague, but all of those other things make you a prohibited person when it comes to firearms.


I'm not sure of your point there? I already just said I can't own guns.

Most mass shooters have a history of threats and violence. Violence against women and children especially. If someone has threatened their neighbors and stalked an ex and beaten children and fought the cops and and and and... Why should they keep their guns?


They can't..... That is what I said in my post. Domestic violence, or a felony prohibit a person from possessing or purchasing a firearm.


And yet I know several people who own plenty of guns who served time. Like that old saying goes: where there's a will, there's a way

One even has a nice collection of different trophies from all the times he has gone hunting
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Moonjay
05/08/19 11:46:22 PM
#81:


ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
ultra magnus13 posted...
Moonjay posted...
I am a liberal so like not all liberals have a problem with the idea of enforced mental health care for people who are a known danger.

And for the record since the subject came up, I certainly don't mean mad doctor mutilation crap, I mean actual care. From caring professionals.

Like I got unwillingly put in a mental hospital for psychosis but I wasn't even a danger to others. And that's great, I needed it. I'm also not allowed to own a gun for five years from the last time I was in the hospital. Also fine. And yet people who beat their children, people who stalk and rape, people who are known to the police as dangerous don't get mental health care AND get to keep their guns. Madness.


"Known to be dangerous to the police" is pretty vague, but all of those other things make you a prohibited person when it comes to firearms.


I'm not sure of your point there? I already just said I can't own guns.

Most mass shooters have a history of threats and violence. Violence against women and children especially. If someone has threatened their neighbors and stalked an ex and beaten children and fought the cops and and and and... Why should they keep their guns?


They can't..... That is what I said in my post. Domestic violence, or a felony prohibit a person from possessing or purchasing a firearm.


I get you now, I was confused by the sentence.

And well, those things *can* get a person's gun taken away, but it's inconsistent.
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VidGameGuy
05/13/19 5:41:44 PM
#82:


Let's make guns illegal. That will stop school shootings. While we're at it, we might as well make hard drugs illegal, that will stop drug overdoses. Oh wait...
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Mead
05/13/19 6:44:16 PM
#83:


VidGameGuy posted...
Let's make guns illegal. That will stop school shootings. While we're at it, we might as well make hard drugs illegal, that will stop drug overdoses. Oh wait...


I dont think anyone is trying to say guns should be illegal

But hey if thats the only way you can discuss a subject have fun with that
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Nade Duck
05/13/19 7:42:09 PM
#84:


Mead posted...
VidGameGuy posted...
Let's make guns illegal. That will stop school shootings. While we're at it, we might as well make hard drugs illegal, that will stop drug overdoses. Oh wait...


I dont think anyone is trying to say guns should be illegal

But hey if thats the only way you can discuss a subject have fun with that

there is no in between when it comes to idiots and their penis enhancement devices.
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Bugmeat
05/13/19 7:48:58 PM
#85:


It's kind of amazing how little attention this shooting has received from the mainstream media. These things usually get much, much more air time.


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Zareth
05/13/19 9:12:09 PM
#86:


No way to prevent this, says only country where this happens regularly.
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Decoy77
05/13/19 9:34:36 PM
#87:


Bugmeat posted...
It's kind of amazing how little attention this shooting has received from the mainstream media. These things usually get much, much more air time.



A Trump hating liberal and a Transwomen shoot up a school and the father of one of them is an illegal that's been deported twice. Gee I wonder why the MSM dropped this so fast. Yet a high school kid smirking was the top story for weeks.
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