Current Events > Trump signs bill where Americans MUST get JOBS to get FOOD STAMPS!!

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12/20/18 11:59:47 PM
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Do you support this? - Results (6 votes)
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The Trump administration will be forcing MILLIONS of Americans who get food stamps to get JOBS if they want the benefits to continue!!

That was an idea Congress nixed leaving it out of a 5 year Farm Bill that Trump signed into law.

The 400 billion law reauthorized agriculture and conservation programs and left the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that serves 44 million untouched.

He announced this signing at a ceremony that he wants Americans to go from "dependence to independence" and from "welfare to gainful employment, strengthening families and uplifting communities"

SNAP is the largest single expense amounting to more than 70 billion as the USDA proposed a rule that would limit how state governments grant work exemptions to adults.

18-49 year olds without kids are required to work 20 hours a week to maintain these benefits as the house bill would have raised the age of receiptients subject to work requirements from 49 to 59 and required parents with children older than 5 to participate in job training.

It also limits circumstances where families that quality for other poverty programs can automatically be eligible for SNAP and since these didn't make it to the farm bill, the Trump administration went for a regulatory approach in scaling back the program as Texas Repubilcan, Michael Conaway was the champion of this tightening

Senator Debbie Stabenow blasted the decision to restrict the program who said "This regulation blatantly ignores the bipartisan farm bill that the president is signing today an disregards over 20 years of history giving states flexibility to request waivers based on local job conditions. I expect the rule will face significant opposition and legal challenges"

Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also blasted this who said is the definition of cruelty and tweeted government should help hungry americans and not take away food.

Florida Republican Ted Yoho said he is a former SNAP recipient and said "Work is empowering" and Republican Scott DesJarlais said the vast majority of americans said people should work if they want food stamps in the "growing economy"

Only states that have an unemployment of 7% or higher will get waivers as conservatives celebrated the decision but is met with criticism that said will leave vulnerable families hungry

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SauI_Goodman
12/21/18 12:00:56 AM
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I don't support much that Trump does but I would support this.
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Johnny_Nutcase
12/21/18 12:01:32 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
I don't support much that Trump does but I would support this.

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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:02:19 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I support mostly everything that Trump does but I definitely support the shit out of this.

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Rika_Furude
12/21/18 12:03:48 AM
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Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it
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Johnny_Nutcase
12/21/18 12:04:25 AM
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ThugLife247 posted...
Isnt this literal slavery


I suppose if slaves got paid.
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:04:58 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?
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Rika_Furude
12/21/18 12:05:54 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?

Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive. Im sure there are people taking advantage of the system. Would you prefer they start stealing more often?
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:06:17 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly

If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance?
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Johnny_Nutcase
12/21/18 12:07:36 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?

Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive.


Not enough jobs.... *jerk off hand gesture*
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:07:58 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?

Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive.

Rika, bro, I like you. We're friends. But there are more jobs than there are people in the country. The people that don't have jobs simply don't want one. Or they think it's beneath them.

Stop drinking the liberal kool-aid, come back to me, we're on the same side
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
12/21/18 12:08:11 AM
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As someone who gets food stamps because I *can't* get a job;

To hell with Trump and every single person who supports him.
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iClockwork
12/21/18 12:08:58 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?

Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive. Im sure there are people taking advantage of the system. Would you prefer they start stealing more often?

I'd prefer they get a job.
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:09:07 AM
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
As someone who gets food stamps because I *can't* get a job;

To hell with Trump and every single person who supports him.

Why can't you get a job?
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Sariana21
12/21/18 12:10:02 AM
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What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:11:21 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!

Not having transportation should be grounds for living for free? Fuck. I should just quit my job and sell my car with that logic, why the hell am I working full time if it's that simple?
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Johnny_Nutcase
12/21/18 12:12:02 AM
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People love making up bullshit excuses for not getting a job. They should earn a spot right at the top in the politics field.
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DeathVelvien
12/21/18 12:13:41 AM
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So do we have a full summary of what this entails, or
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Blue_Inigo
12/21/18 12:13:56 AM
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A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/21/18 12:14:08 AM
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Stupid law
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DavidWong
12/21/18 12:14:24 AM
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Sounds like "work for the dole" (dole is the nickname for welfare in Australia), which I absolutely support.

Good move, A+, would recommend
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Johnny_Nutcase
12/21/18 12:14:44 AM
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The lazy bums of CE rear their ugly heads as well.
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:14:47 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Stupid law

The hell?
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Rika_Furude
12/21/18 12:16:30 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!

Americans dont see it that way. The stupider the policy, the better. Apparently. This topic demonstrates that anyway.
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Video_games
12/21/18 12:18:15 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Sariana21 posted...
What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!

Not having transportation should be grounds for living for free? Fuck. I should just quit my job and sell my car with that logic, why the hell am I working full time if it's that simple?

Aren't you that guy who is living with a girl you don't like because you can't afford to live alone?

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Sphyx
12/21/18 12:18:25 AM
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Surprise, surprise. Simple minds think simple solutions fix complex problems.
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:19:08 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex
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FLUFFYGERM
12/21/18 12:20:12 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Stupid law

The hell?


A lot of people on food stamps during the Great Recession wanted good work and couldn't find it once their careers tanked. And if they settled for any shitty job rather than investing time to retrain and find something in their actual career, it would've stagnated their career and they would've likely never picked it up again.

There's much lower hanging fruit for spending cuts than food stamps.
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DavidWong
12/21/18 12:20:14 AM
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In Australia it works like, get a job for welfare, but if you can't get a job, show that you are trying to get a job (a log book of jobs applied for), or do shit like picking up rubbish or something idk. Just do SOMETHING to contribute to society.
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Completion
12/21/18 12:20:21 AM
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I am not at all surprised that we have people here defending this because they don't know how anything in the planet works
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:20:28 AM
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Video_games posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Sariana21 posted...
What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!

Not having transportation should be grounds for living for free? Fuck. I should just quit my job and sell my car with that logic, why the hell am I working full time if it's that simple?

Aren't you that guy who is living with a girl you don't like because you can't afford to live alone?

Misery loves company!

When the fuck did I ever say I don't like my gf? She's the best thing that has ever happened to me and I love her to death
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Blue_Inigo
12/21/18 12:21:06 AM
#34:


glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex

You constantly prove you know so little. It's almost amazing!
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cjsdowg
12/21/18 12:21:49 AM
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1. A good number of people on food stamps already have jobs.
2. The largest group of people on food stamps who don't have jobs are the old, the young, and the disabled .
3. Many people can not find good work.
4. So you have a few lazy people who don't want to work that would be forced to get a job while negatively impacting everyone else on this list.
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:22:02 AM
#36:


Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex

You constantly prove you know so little. It's almost amazing!

You made the comment, it's up to you to prove me wrong
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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:23:03 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
1. A good number of people on food stamps already have jobs.
2. The largest group of people on food stamps who don't have jobs are the old, the young, and the disabled .
3. Many people can not find good work.
4. So you have a few lazy people who don't want to work that would be forced to get a job while negatively impacting everyone else on this list.

Bullet point three is irrelevant. If they could find good work they wouldn't need government assistance
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DarkProto05
12/21/18 12:23:43 AM
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The opposite is a huge problem as well. I've met people who make 40k to 60k a year and get food stamps because they know people who work in the system and cheat the system. They are taking away benefits from families who don't make enough money. It's complete bullshit.
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Completion
12/21/18 12:23:44 AM
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DavidWong posted...
In Australia it works like, get a job for welfare, but if you can't get a job, show that you are trying to get a job (a log book of jobs applied for), or do shit like picking up rubbish or something idk. Just do SOMETHING to contribute to society.


The whole fucking point of welfare is that it's for people who -can't- work
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Blue_Inigo
12/21/18 12:23:46 AM
#41:


glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex

You constantly prove you know so little. It's almost amazing!

You made the comment, it's up to you to prove me wrong

Why on earth would I waste time on someone who has made the moronic claim that hip hop breeds degenerate culture? You're beyond help.
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YookaLaylee
12/21/18 12:24:19 AM
#42:


glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it

Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?

Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive.

Rika, bro, I like you. We're friends. But there are more jobs than there are people in the country. The people that don't have jobs simply don't want one. Or they think it's beneath them.

Stop drinking the liberal kool-aid, come back to me, we're on the same side

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glitteringfairy
12/21/18 12:25:42 AM
#43:


Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex

You constantly prove you know so little. It's almost amazing!

You made the comment, it's up to you to prove me wrong

Why on earth would I waste time on someone who has made the moronic claim that hip hop breeds degenerate culture? You're beyond help.

Hip hop absolutely does breed degenerate culture. Sho it may do some good with rich celebrities donating to charities but on the whole how does rapping about selling drugs and killing people create good culture??
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FLUFFYGERM
12/21/18 12:26:37 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
cjsdowg posted...
1. A good number of people on food stamps already have jobs.
2. The largest group of people on food stamps who don't have jobs are the old, the young, and the disabled .
3. Many people can not find good work.
4. So you have a few lazy people who don't want to work that would be forced to get a job while negatively impacting everyone else on this list.

Bullet point three is irrelevant. If they could find good work they wouldn't need government assistance


It is relevant. How old were you during the Great Recession? People with great jobs lost them and had to wait for the work to come back.

Many of them would've just stagnated if they took some shitty full-time or even part-time job to meet higher hour requirements for food stamps.
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Video_games
12/21/18 12:26:46 AM
#45:


glitteringfairy posted...
Video_games posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Sariana21 posted...
What if you cant get a job?

What if you have kids or elders who need care?

What if you have no transportation?

There are so many other pieces to this puzzle besides get a job if you want food!

Not having transportation should be grounds for living for free? Fuck. I should just quit my job and sell my car with that logic, why the hell am I working full time if it's that simple?

Aren't you that guy who is living with a girl you don't like because you can't afford to live alone?

Misery loves company!

When the fuck did I ever say I don't like my gf? She's the best thing that has ever happened to me and I love her to death

You definitely said you didn't like her. You said you work security at a retail store and you're only with her because you can't afford to live alone.

LOL. What a life.
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Blue_Inigo
12/21/18 12:27:08 AM
#46:


glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A law that marginalizes minorities and those without wealth even more and CEmen are deeding over it, surprise surprise.

White people take up the majority of welfare. Try again victim complex

You constantly prove you know so little. It's almost amazing!

You made the comment, it's up to you to prove me wrong

Why on earth would I waste time on someone who has made the moronic claim that hip hop breeds degenerate culture? You're beyond help.

Hip hop absolutely does breed degenerate culture. Sho it may do some good with rich celebrities donating to charities but on the whole how does rapping about selling drugs and killing people create good culture??

Like I said, one idiotic statement after another. I dont understand why someone would willingly display such a vast amount of ignorance, but it takes all types.
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I4NRulez
12/21/18 12:27:18 AM
#47:


Dont like most statistics show that people dont use food stamps for too long and just use them until they get back on their feet?

Seems like a waste of time like drug tests for welfare
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DavidWong
12/21/18 12:27:29 AM
#48:


@Completion posted...
DavidWong posted...
In Australia it works like, get a job for welfare, but if you can't get a job, show that you are trying to get a job (a log book of jobs applied for), or do shit like picking up rubbish or something idk. Just do SOMETHING to contribute to society.


The whole fucking point of welfare is that it's for people who -can't- work


Yeah, if you can prove that you can't work for medical reasons, it doesn't apply. And in Australia, as long as you show you are LOOKING for work by applying for like 10 jobs a fortnight, you will get welfare.

It's designed to weed out the fuckers that do nothing but collect welfare and sit around and spend their welfare on drugs and alcohol.
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Philoktetes
12/21/18 12:27:33 AM
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nice

imo you should have to have a job to get unemployment too
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Pitlord_Special
12/21/18 12:28:06 AM
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Let them eat bootstraps
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