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Duncanwii
12/19/18 11:39:50 PM
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We already have games that are indistiguishable to real life, how much farther up can graphics go? Why not just support the PS4/Xbox1 and make games for it forever?
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Darmik
12/19/18 11:40:43 PM
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Yeah the weak CPU holds these consoles back a fair bit.
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50Blessings
12/19/18 11:41:03 PM
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They could make the shit run at 60fps

But they'll probably just waste more power on making it extra 4K or some stupid shit as they tend to do.
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Cheater87
12/19/18 11:42:37 PM
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Why did we move up from the 2600?
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JoeDangIt
12/19/18 11:45:09 PM
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All that extra power is just going to go towards justifying the increasing amount of harddrive space games are taking up.
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Behaviorism
12/19/18 11:46:36 PM
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Ps5: 500gig harddrive
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ehhwhatever
12/19/18 11:49:07 PM
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A new nintendo handlheld is next, has to.
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Duncanwii
12/19/18 11:50:00 PM
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ehhwhatever posted...
A new nintendo handlheld is next, has to.

Isnt the Switch their new handheld?
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DezDroppedFreak
12/19/18 11:51:39 PM
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Framerate and optimized performance mate
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AvantgardeAClue
12/19/18 11:53:06 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Framerate and optimized performance mate


One X and Pro are kinda addresses to these

That being said the Pro doesnt do anything besides 4K very well

I want 60 FPS to be standard in everything minimum
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Darmik
12/19/18 11:54:46 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Framerate and optimized performance mate


One X and Pro are kinda addresses to these

That being said the Pro doesnt do anything besides 4K very well

I want 60 FPS to be standard in everything minimum


Gonna need to get a PC if you want that.
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rikasa
12/19/18 11:55:08 PM
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I've wondered the same thing. PC doesn't seem much further ahead if you're not looking too close.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/20/18 12:03:20 AM
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Darmik posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Framerate and optimized performance mate


One X and Pro are kinda addresses to these

That being said the Pro doesnt do anything besides 4K very well

I want 60 FPS to be standard in everything minimum


Gonna need to get a PC if you want that.


Yeah I wish Forza Horizon 4 had a performance mode for those who want it, but its okay because its such a massive open world.

......oh wait it does lol
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Darmik
12/20/18 12:06:26 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Darmik posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Framerate and optimized performance mate


One X and Pro are kinda addresses to these

That being said the Pro doesnt do anything besides 4K very well

I want 60 FPS to be standard in everything minimum


Gonna need to get a PC if you want that.


Yeah I wish Forza Horizon 4 had a performance mode for those who want it, but its okay because its such a massive open world.

......oh wait it does lol


A handful of games doesn't mean it's the minimum standard.

Xbox One X games also have to run on the significantly weaker Xbox One.

There are always going to be some 60fps games because some developers prioritize it. That doesn't mean every single game is going to be 60fps or that it is capable of it. If you want that you need a PC.

We've been through this routine for 20 years now.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/20/18 12:11:46 AM
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The point I was making is that competent devs have included performance modes or at least stabilized the frame rate on the that are currently out.

I used to be a PC gamer during the 7th gen of consoles but upgrading and comparability became a PITA plus I was a youngun with no PC upgrading money

Consoles for gaming, PCs for work. What are you gonna do if your two in one gets toast hmm
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Albel-Nox
12/20/18 12:12:09 AM
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Along as the MS/Xbox keeps up the backward compatibility, I'd say yes.

But for Sony, it depends on them actually giving the PS5 [CENSORED DUE TO THE OLYMPICS]
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Zack_Attackv1
12/20/18 12:14:01 AM
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What a horribly contrived topic.
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Darmik
12/20/18 12:16:45 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
The point I was making is that competent devs have included performance modes or at least stabilized the frame rate on the that are currently out.


It's not solely about competency. Every single game is doing different things. Forza Horizon 4 managing a 60fps mode doesn't mean RDR2 can. We still see last gen games not manage 60fps on the PS4/Xbox One because of how they were developed. PC's can brute force it. Consoles rely on developers designing the game to support it. Which is why it will never be the standard.

You're also talking about a mid-gen upgraded console that supports 4k. It has way more potential overhead than usual and it's still not overly common
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AvantgardeAClue
12/20/18 12:33:13 AM
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Is there a particular reason why you explain stuff to me like my username is unironic, Dar?

Everything you mentioned was stuff I knew :/

Doesnt mean consoles cant strive to have PC quality features and then some.

Also, frame rate boosting is actually standard on the One X and optional on the Pro. There are several performance tests that show even non enhanced 360 games benefit from this.
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littlebro07
12/20/18 12:33:57 AM
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4K HDR 60fps Red Dead 2 would be pretty cool
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Darmik
12/20/18 12:37:18 AM
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I'm just saying your hopes aren't gonna happen. If there's a choice between better visuals or frame rate most Western devs are gonna go for visuals and there's a big gap between 30 and 60fps.

Even both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X were designed to increase resolution and visual quality as the priority.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/20/18 12:38:43 AM
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Darmik posted...
I'm just saying your hopes aren't gonna happen. If there's a choice between better visuals or frame rate most Western devs are gonna go for visuals and there's a big gap between 30 and 60fps.

Even both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X were designed to increase resolution and visual quality as the priority.


And thats all well and good, but that doesnt mean there are quite a few games that also consider performance on the 4K consoles.

Hell, the Xbox One X finally made Assassins Creed Unity PLAYABLE
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