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mario2000
12/12/18 11:11:32 AM
#103:


Rightists think that being informed of social dynamics in regards to race is 'shaming them for being white'.
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Smashingpmkns
12/12/18 11:12:40 AM
#104:


Esrac posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
CornBarn posted...
How can she be a "BLM leader" if it isn't an organization? And it seems like it not being an organization is a very useful way to deflect criticism towards views that seem to be common enough.


Great question. She's hardly a leader and more of a face for the movement. But that has been the common criticism from both sides.

CornBarn posted...
Those are possible interpretations of the data. Ultimately the data still shows rapidly declining rates of college attendance by men, and white men. Both the causes you highlighted would represent anti-male systemic issues.

Saying women are better at education is misandrist, and we already know that women tend to punish boys much more strictly than they do girls. They also neglect them.


Correlation=/=Causation. You're just asserting your own hypothesis with no basis other than the declining rates lol Those aren't anti-male systemic issues. School work doesn't cater to women. If you get arrested or expelled during college, that's a personal decision. Has nothing to do with being male.


There actually is research that suggests modern classrooms do, in fact, systemically favor girls over boys.

I recall @Darkman124 posted a study about how boys are penalized in their grades for behavior that doesn't relate to the academic content. Boys can be crushing tests, but their grades suffer because they'll be aggressively shouting out answers instead of passively raising their hands and waiting to be called on, for example.


Must have been an incredibly small sample size. I would like to see that study though because it sounds really hard to prove something like that. For what I know, most schooling stops grading behavior along with their academics around high school. At least in my area. Dunno why elementary school grading systems would be implemented at a university.
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Ambience
12/12/18 11:15:14 AM
#105:


shockthemonkey posted...
Jesus when did Proudclad go full white nationalist?

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Darkman124
12/12/18 11:15:24 AM
#106:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Must have been an incredibly small sample size. I would like to see that study though because it sounds really hard to prove something like that. For what I know, most schooling stops grading behavior along with their academics around high school. At least in my area. Dunno why elementary school grading systems would be implemented at a university.


it isnt a sample size issue, the study is sound.

http://people.terry.uga.edu/cornwl/research/cmvp.genderdiffs.pdf

it is focused on primary schooling, however.
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The Great Muta 22
12/12/18 11:24:56 AM
#107:


Darkman124 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Must have been an incredibly small sample size. I would like to see that study though because it sounds really hard to prove something like that. For what I know, most schooling stops grading behavior along with their academics around high school. At least in my area. Dunno why elementary school grading systems would be implemented at a university.


it isnt a sample size issue, the study is sound.

http://people.terry.uga.edu/cornwl/research/cmvp.genderdiffs.pdf

it is focused on primary schooling, however.


See, these type of arguments are actual valid. And, to me anyways, are indicative of a larger problem of what we consider "acceptable gender norms and expected behavior" as something that's been ingrained through history, and really, across the world. It's not something being done to specifically "target white boys", or whatever lame ass argument the typical users try to use to point to "muh white genocide!".

But at least this is legitimate point, and not stupid shit like complaining about how The Last Jedi was an attack on white men or how Battlefield isn't historically accurate and it's a war on white men.
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glitteringfairy
12/12/18 11:25:38 AM
#108:


Go notch!
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Smashingpmkns
12/12/18 11:35:17 AM
#109:


Darkman124 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Must have been an incredibly small sample size. I would like to see that study though because it sounds really hard to prove something like that. For what I know, most schooling stops grading behavior along with their academics around high school. At least in my area. Dunno why elementary school grading systems would be implemented at a university.


it isnt a sample size issue, the study is sound.

http://people.terry.uga.edu/cornwl/research/cmvp.genderdiffs.pdf

it is focused on primary schooling, however.


Makes sense, and yeah that is an issue. I've always thought the behaviour grades were BS. That's just a teacher's way of sticking it to kids they don't like. There definitely has to be a better way to have kids behave better in class without punishing them.

That being said, parenting has a huge role in this as well. And this type of shit is only going to get worse.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/12/18 11:40:23 AM
#111:


You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.
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CornBarn
12/12/18 11:43:21 AM
#112:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Yup. I think they know this but choose to pretend otherwise.
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The Great Muta 22
12/12/18 11:46:13 AM
#113:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


I frankly don't care what random opinion articles or people on Twitter say. And that's not gas lighting by the way, that's saying they don't fucking matter and the fact you guys are so obsessed with race and sex means you're only further radicalizing yourself. Stop being such a reactionary drone with the same talking points
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Esrac
12/12/18 11:55:46 AM
#114:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Must have been an incredibly small sample size. I would like to see that study though because it sounds really hard to prove something like that. For what I know, most schooling stops grading behavior along with their academics around high school. At least in my area. Dunno why elementary school grading systems would be implemented at a university.


it isnt a sample size issue, the study is sound.

http://people.terry.uga.edu/cornwl/research/cmvp.genderdiffs.pdf

it is focused on primary schooling, however.


Makes sense, and yeah that is an issue. I've always thought the behaviour grades were BS. That's just a teacher's way of sticking it to kids they don't like. There definitely has to be a better way to have kids behave better in class without punishing them.

That being said, parenting has a huge role in this as well. And this type of shit is only going to get worse.


It seems to me that the modern classroom isn't working for boys in general. I don't think we can just force them to fit that mold. Square pegs don't fit in round holes.

If the system we currently have in place is disadvantaging the boys at a significant rate and advantaging the girls, is the solution to restructure the system to accommodate typical male behavior or is it to keep trying to get boys to act more like girls? Because the latter doesn't seem to be working.

Not to make it an "us vs them" thing, but if we were looking at a system in which the overwhelming majority of teachers were male and the girls were getting graded more harshly, failing, and dropping out at significantly higher rates than boys, would we say they should just act more like the boys, would we suspect there is some sexism against the girls, or would we figure there is something in that system that favored boys over girls?
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Kineth
12/12/18 12:09:00 PM
#115:


Ambience posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Jesus when did Proudclad go full white nationalist?


Is CornBarn supposed to be ProudClad?

And he's been a white nationalist for years apparently. Hell, I should have kept him ignored when he accused me of being for white infanticide because I'm "an extreme left socialist".
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Darkman124
12/12/18 12:31:36 PM
#116:


Smashingpmkns posted...
I've always thought the behaviour grades were BS.


being clear this is not behavior grading as part of a rubric

this is subjective grading being harsher on students who misbehave

teachers are humans, humans are not objective. they prob should not know the name of the student on the assignment they're grading.
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MrMallard
12/12/18 1:28:00 PM
#117:


lots of mayo in this topic
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darkphoenix181
12/12/18 1:28:54 PM
#118:


MrMallard posted...
lots of mayo in this topic


It is ok to eat mayo
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RonnyCrypto
12/12/18 1:32:39 PM
#119:


He's not wrong
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FrisbeeDude
12/12/18 1:36:27 PM
#120:


women forming a retreat to discuss being black in America and the toll that can take: Racist

guy on twitter arguing theres a coordinated agenda against white people: You know, he has some decent points

CE gonna CE
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FrisbeeDude
12/12/18 1:38:57 PM
#121:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


do you believe black people still face wide spread systemic racism and discrimination?
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Axiom
12/12/18 1:49:00 PM
#122:


Ambience posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Jesus when did Proudclad go full white nationalist?

The rightwing has completely embraced white identity politics and have gone full persecution complex
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/12/18 2:05:50 PM
#123:


FrisbeeDude posted...
do you believe black people still face wide spread systemic racism and discrimination?


Depends what exactly you mean by systemic. But in general;

Racism, yes. I think most people face some level of racial prejudice and bias but you didn't ask about everyone, you asked about blacks so just pretend I only posted the first 2 words of this sentence. (And yes, they face a particularly nasty and endemic strain of racism that most don't face.)

Discrimination, highly probably, definitely in how some individuals choose to act towards them.
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Grischnak
12/12/18 2:32:38 PM
#124:


Ehh. Obviously he's got a point that there's a certain hypocrisy where someone like Sarah Jeong can say explicitly racist/hateful things directed at white men and suffer no real consequence for it while someone like Papa John gets his career ruined by saying the N word in a completely non-hateful/non-racist way. It's a bit absurd how bigotry is considered the worst thing ever...except when it's directed at white men. Then it's fine. But dismissing everyone that disagrees with you as "evil" is a very basic bitch way of thinking. Which is probably why it is the standard stance of SJWs. He literally calls that shit out in one tweet then does the exact same thing himself. Come on Notch. Gotta be better then that.
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Taharqa_
12/12/18 2:51:04 PM
#125:


Axiom posted...
Ambience posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Jesus when did Proudclad go full white nationalist?

The rightwing has completely embraced white identity politics and have gone full persecution complex


Yup, and Trump ran his entire campaign on it.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/12/18 2:58:53 PM
#126:


Taharqa_ posted...
Yup, and Trump ran his entire campaign on it.


Why do you think it worked?
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AmericaTheBrave
12/12/18 3:02:54 PM
#127:


I have to say, it is quite fascinating how a majority is able to successfully convince themselves they are marginalized.

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2013-02-22-113CongressPic.jpg

Look who makes up the majority of that photo. And these people still think society is against them.

It's sad that victim rhetoric works so well.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/12/18 3:10:17 PM
#128:


AmericaTheBrave posted...
is able to successfully convince themselves they are marginalized.


Why are you so dishonest, you're going to act like whites saying they face issues means they think they're marginalized?

>Hey we have some issues we want addressed . . .
"Shut up, you're not marginalized."
>So these issues just disappear?

Jesus fucking Christ.
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AmericaTheBrave
12/12/18 3:19:46 PM
#129:


Replace "marginalized" with "victims" then.

People who aren't victims are convinced they are.

This propaganda is scary.
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TrevorBlack79
12/12/18 3:20:19 PM
#130:


RonnyCrypto posted...
He's not wrong


Yes he is.
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epik_fail1
12/12/18 3:50:03 PM
#132:


Sheltered gamer should really stop consuming alt right propaganda and start interacting with minorities in real life.
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Kineth
12/12/18 4:47:15 PM
#133:


epik_fail1 posted...
Sheltered gamer should really stop consuming alt right propaganda and start interacting with minorities in real life.

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Thunder_Dogg
12/12/18 8:26:42 PM
#134:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.
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Bloodychess
12/12/18 8:34:31 PM
#135:


Thunder_Dogg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.

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Its time to make a less obvious account fam
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The Great Muta 22
12/12/18 9:33:31 PM
#136:


Bloodychess posted...
Thunder_Dogg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.

User since 2002
Karma 322

Its time to make a less obvious account fam


Stop talking like a loser
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/12/18 10:21:18 PM
#137:


Bloodychess posted...
Thunder_Dogg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.

User since 2002
Karma 322

Its time to make a less obvious account fam


lmao, I thought only [insert usual response] point out people's user info?

that's what I'm told when I call it out, so...
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Bloodychess
12/12/18 10:42:07 PM
#138:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Thunder_Dogg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.

User since 2002
Karma 322

Its time to make a less obvious account fam


Stop talking like a loser

Im not talking like you tho
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Kineth
12/13/18 12:50:36 AM
#139:


Bloodychess posted...
Thunder_Dogg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You guys can pretend there aren't countless hours of footage, articles, and examples of anti-white/male agendas but you're not successfully gas lighting anyone, you're only lying to yourselves.

I'm not saying there's a vast conspiracy.
I think mostly these are independent actors popping up organically as a product of the current zeitgeist, tone, technology, etc.


Stop crying about identity politics while also being all about identity politics. Don't use other people as an excuse for your own bad behavior.

User since 2002
Karma 322

Its time to make a less obvious account fam


While the karma and post count are questionable, the point raised isn't.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/13/18 6:20:51 AM
#140:


lmao attack the user status and not the point. classic
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/13/18 10:40:20 AM
#141:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
lmao attack the user status and not the point. classic


"unless they're white then we can disregard their points!"
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AmericaTheBrave
12/13/18 10:45:49 AM
#142:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
lmao attack the user status and not the point. classic


"unless they're white then we can disregard their points!"


There is no point you made that was good.

Not a single one.

There is no anti-white agenda.

Buzzfeed writing dumb articles is not oppression. Just an annoyance.

Minorities wish dumb articles on the internet was all they had to put up with.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/13/18 11:32:28 AM
#144:


AmericaTheBrave posted...
There is no anti-white agenda.


Of the 7 billion people on this planet, not a single one of them has an anti-white agenda?
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/13/18 12:12:16 PM
#146:


shockthemonkey posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...
There is no anti-white agenda.


Of the 7 billion people on this planet, not a single one of them has an anti-white agenda?

Wow youre not even pretending to try anymore


I have had him tagged as "WhiteFragilityIncarnate" for quite some time now.

I don't always tag people, but when I do, I always have evidence lmao
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Kineth
12/13/18 9:31:32 PM
#147:


bump
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bknight
12/13/18 9:40:24 PM
#148:


Well, this is what would happen if a CEmen would finally get that 2.5 billion but....
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CADE FOSTER
12/13/18 9:42:23 PM
#149:


ArchiePeck posted...
It's a key indicator of lack of intelligence for me when a person of privilege thinks equal rights for others means less rights for them.

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RoboLaserGandhi
12/13/18 9:44:03 PM
#150:


EzeDoesIt posted...
There is. Not in a racist way. It is the richs goal to pit the poor against each other. The whites at the top are not affected by this.

It's the goal of politicians to pit everyone against each other.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/13/18 9:53:05 PM
#151:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
EzeDoesIt posted...
There is. Not in a racist way. It is the richs goal to pit the poor against each other. The whites at the top are not affected by this.

It's the goal of politicians to pit everyone against each other.


fortunately, we're all to be held accountable for our words and actions as individuals.

sadly not everybody outraged even have a rational basis for their outrage.

we have people outraged that people are outraged. we have people outraged because they can't dictate to the types of conversations other people have amongst each other.

"mind your businesses" is key to plenty moments of happiness.
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WesternMedia
12/15/18 12:00:23 PM
#152:


Well if the minecraft creator said so
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