Current Events > Pelosi, Schumer to meet with Trump and offer $1.3 billion for border wall

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https://www.denverpost.com/2018/12/10/pelosi-schumer-trump-border-wall-offer-shutdown/amp/

Democratic leaders plan to offer President Donald Trump $1.3 billion in funding for a border fence when they meet Tuesday at the White House, a bid that falls far short of the $5 billion Trump is demanding to fund a border wall.

Democrats, Republicans and the White House have until Dec. 21 reach a budget deal if they are to avert a partial government shutdown, but talks are deadlocked over funding for the wall.

As House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., prepare for the Tuesday morning, Democrats and Trump are, if anything, moving further apart.

Schumer had previously suggested Trump accept $1.6 billion in border funding, the funding level included in a Senate bill with bipartisan support. But that $1.6 billion would struggle to pass the House, where Democrats wont support it because they say its too much and Republicans because its not enough.

The $1.3 billion would extend current funding levels contained in the spending bill for the Homeland Security Department which Democrats want to maintain at existing levels if no new deal can be reached.

If no deal is reached by the end of next week, funding will run out for the Homeland Security Department and other federal agencies. Those agencies, making up about 25 percent of the federal government, are operating on a short-term spending bill Congress passed last week to move the shutdown deadline.

Tuesdays late-morning meeting will be the first gathering of Trump, Schumer and Pelosi ahead of the shutdown deadline. In recent weeks, the two sides have increasingly dug in, and its not clear where compromise might lie.

With Republicans about to lose their majority in the House, the president and his GOP allies are determined to make one last attempt to get money for the wall Trump promised to build along the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump claimed during the campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall but now wants U.S. taxpayers to foot the bill instead.

In a joint statement issued Monday evening, Pelosi and Schumer said the country cannot afford a Trump Shutdown at this time. The president, the statement said, knows full well that his wall proposal does not have the votes to pass the House and Senate, and should not be an obstacle to a bipartisan agreement.

As a Kansas City event Friday, Trump accused Democrats of playing political games and said he thought it was a political disadvantage for Democrats to fight funding for the wall.

The number is $5 billion. If there is a better way to get there than what the president has laid out, then they need to come with an alternative, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., said Monday on Fox News Channel. They cant come and say they want to shut the government down for no reason because they dont want border security.

Democrats have said repeatedly that if there is a partial government shutdown resulting from a funding lapse, Trump will be the one to blame. Pelosi last week called the wall immoral and insisted Democrats will not fund it.

Some 70 percent of the federal government including the Pentagon and the Department of Health and Human Services has already been funded through next September.

Under the plan Democrats are offering Trump, funding for the Homeland Security Department would remain largely flat through 2019. Funding for the other agencies at risk of a shutdown, such as the Department of Justice and Interior Department, could be substantially increased.

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Shitty establishment Dems making shitty decisions with even shittier Repubs

All we can do is hope it doesnt pass, I suppose
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No one ever try to tell me Pelosi doesn't fucking suck again.
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why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?
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andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

Because a wall is good idea, it's a campaign promise and most Americans want a border wall.
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andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

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Maybe Nancy Pelosi is going to tell them there is no way she is letting a border wall pass the house
>_>
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I really don't care about the border wall either way honestly.

wtf NO, don't give in to that ridiculously stupid and pointless "wall"
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Maybe Nancy Pelosi is going to tell them there is no way she is letting a border wall pass the house

Seems to me like she's saying that a $1.3 billion border wall could pass the House
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This must be the evil plan I kept hearing republicans campaigning against when they were saying Pelosi wins during the midterms.
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Why are we still calling it a wall when it is clearly a fence
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Oh. A border fence?
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eston posted...

Why are we still calling it a wall when it is clearly a fence

was a fence one of the wall samples for him to choose from ?
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A tent with children in cages was also one of the wall samples he looked at
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DifferentialEquation posted...

andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

Because a wall is good idea, it's a campaign promise and most Americans want a border wall.

Well you got one right

Also, the wall is a massive nothingburger and not happening.

Pelosi in her infinite wisdom sees that it would be beneficial to work with Trump because his funneling of FEMA money to the wall isn't enough to finish the project and she knows that he'll pay ba- ah who am I kidding
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I see it as attempting to strike a compromise because he ain't getting $5 billion
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eston posted...

I see it as attempting to strike a compromise because he ain't getting $5 billion

A compromise where everyone loses except Trump. The only people on the planet worse at negotiating than Trump are the democrats.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

Because a wall is good idea, it's a campaign promise and most Americans want a border wall.

It is the dumbest idea ever. Most Trump supporters I know think it's a waste of money.
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in dems defense here, it'll cost more if we shut the govt down than if we give them the money for the wall, and not because of trump. he will sign anything that makes it to his desk, the issue at present is house GOP won't sign on to a bill without wall funding

perhaps the dem control of the house in 2019 will actually reduce shutdown risk.
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Who are they even trying to sell this to?
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P4wn4g3 posted...

eston posted...

I see it as attempting to strike a compromise because he ain't getting $5 billion

A compromise where everyone loses except Trump. The only people on the planet worse at negotiating than Trump are the democrats.

Idk after being told by dems that theyre not going with the wall. Then they approach with 1.3 bil. Sounds like hes winning. Plus its a campaign promise too
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Bio1590 posted...

Who are they even trying to sell this to?

enough house dems and non-insane house GOP members that the govt doesnt shut down
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Darkman124 posted...

in dems defense here, it'll cost more if we shut the govt down than if we give them the money for the wall, and not because of trump. he will sign anything that makes it to his desk, the issue at present is house GOP won't sign on to a bill without wall funding

perhaps the dem control of the house in 2019 will actually reduce shutdown risk.

Seems like something worth a government shutdown. "Yeah we had to shutdown the government because unfortunately the GOP wants to continue internment camps in the south" would make for damning headlines.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Seems like something worth a government shutdown. "Yeah we had to shutdown the government because unfortunately the GOP wants to continue internment camps in the south" would make for damning headlines.

where do you think such headlines would run? the new york times?

@Antifar
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I'm not sure, the democrats never seem to go on record with that sort of appeal so I guess we won't know.

I do know though that I want a compromise from Pelosi for a few million.
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eston posted...

I see it as attempting to strike a compromise because he ain't getting $5 billion

This simply isn't something to compromise over. We shouldn't be giving him anything.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

Because a wall is good idea, it's a campaign promise and most Americans want a border wall.

lol no it is a dumb idea and wouldnt stop anything, but dumb ideas are the only kinds trump has
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UPDATE: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1072540867590848514
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Antifar posted...

UPDATE: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1072540867590848514

LMFAO, that's fuckin great
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Things are going well: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1072541835183165440
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@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

creativerealms posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

andel posted...

why is this moron still trying to build a fucking wall?

Because a wall is good idea, it's a campaign promise and most Americans want a border wall.

It is the dumbest idea ever. Most Trump supporters I know think it's a waste of money.

Those aren't real Trump supporters. They're like Christians who pick and choose which parts of the bible they want to follow.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.
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Antifar posted...

Things are going well: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1072541835183165440

This man really lives up to the "fuckin moron" designation
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Sounds like Schumer is about to sign a 1.3 billion dollar deal.
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Antifar posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.

Id like to add one more vote for Nah

Antifar posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.

Lol which is an incredibly irresponsible position which is why i ignore lefitst crying about a compromise. A targeted border wall on specific points makes sense. A giant wall of china idea is stupid.

Antifar posted...

The number is $5 billion. If there is a better way to get there than what the president has laid out, then they need to come with an alternative, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., said Monday on Fox News Channel. They cant come and say they want to shut the government down for no reason because they dont want border security.

First of all. Fuck off asshole.

Secondly.... hey, remember when you pieces of shit shut down the government for no reason because you didn't want to give millions of Americans health care.... and then threatened to do it again?

In conclusion.... you can fuck right off Steve Scalise.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Antifar posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.

Lol which is an incredibly irresponsible position which is why i ignore lefitst crying about a compromise. A targeted border wall on specific points makes sense. A giant wall of china idea is stupid.

A fence is more than suitable. The wall is stupid and a waste of money
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Antifar posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.

Lol which is an incredibly irresponsible position which is why i ignore lefitst crying about a compromise. A targeted border wall on specific points makes sense.

What makes you think all of this?

Tijuana murder count is over 1600. San Diego is like 50. Yes, our drug demand drives most of that, but to ignore the danger to the SD community of just a free for all reeks of someone who doesnt really care and just likes the idea of everything being open

Ambience posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Antifar posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

@Antifar, should any man made barrier exist on the border to prevent undocumented entry to the US?

Nah.

Lol which is an incredibly irresponsible position which is why i ignore lefitst crying about a compromise. A targeted border wall on specific points makes sense. A giant wall of china idea is stupid.

A fence is more than suitable. The wall is stupid and a waste of money

Wall. Barrier. Fence. Really semantics about what you wanna call it. A targeted barrier that is cheap and safe in areas with high chance of entry makes sense. Just making a wall to brag about having a long ass wall is a waste of money I agree.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Tijuana murder count is over 1600. San Diego is like 50. Yes, our drug demand drives most of that, but to ignore the danger to the SD community of just a free for all reeks of someone who doesnt really care and just likes the idea of everything being open

"Mexicans are inherently dangerous and pose a threat to the safety to the wellbeing of Americans" is how I read this. Did you mean it another way?
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So we now have a direct quote from Trump as such

"I am proud to shut down the government"
-Donald J. Trump
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Fuck.
The.
Wall.
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