Current Events > Universities launch drive to recruit more white males due to low numbers

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CornBarn
12/10/18 4:23:26 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/09/universities-launch-drive-recruit-white-males-low-numbers-give/

Universities are setting targets to recruit more white male students after low numbers meant they are now classed a minority group.

Essex and Aston Universities have become Britains first non-elite institutions to write the target into their official recruitment plans, putting white males on a par with Black students and women engineers.

White British students are in a minority at roughly one in ten institutions, according to the Higher Education Statistics Agency.

Meanwhile on certain courses such as pharmacy, business and some science degrees, more than seven in 10 students is from an ethnic minority.

In 2016-17, 27 per cent of the UK undergraduate intake were white males, down from 30 per cent in 2007-08.

Oxford University has previously announced a drive to attract more of the group.

Nick Hillman, director of the Higher Education Policy Institute (HEPI), which has released a report on the plight of young men in education, told the Mail on Sunday: 'When putting together our report, we were shocked to find so few higher education institutions had these sorts of targets.

The problem is so evident and we've continued to go backwards.

"Some people oppose this whole agenda - we were told we were wrong to look at gender and should care only about class.

The Institutes report calls for more foundation year courses preparing students for studying a degree as a means of encouraging more young men to apply.

Official figures also point to a growing gender gap in British universities, with 23 out of 149 higher education institutions having more female than male students.

Previous research has indicated that university staff have a mixed reaction to schemes aimed specifically at white boys in case it leads to accusations of racism.

A study led by Kings College London said: We found that people were quite uncomfortable with the idea of running a targeted activity with this group, in a way that we've not encountered, for example, targeting young black African men.

We had quite a lot of people saying.

"This isn't going to be a white-only event, is it?

Essex and Astons initiatives follows a warning by the Office for Students, which regulates universities, in September, that institutions could be punished unless they give a higher proportion of top degrees to black students.

The body plans to set a series of national targets to apply to all universities.
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A_Good_Boy
12/10/18 4:25:02 PM
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So they're no longer a plurality. What's the big deal?
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spanky1
12/10/18 4:28:36 PM
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I think the large hadron collider really did send us into a different time line.
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DevsBro
12/10/18 4:32:42 PM
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Welp

This is going to end terribly
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darkphoenix181
12/10/18 4:34:48 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
So they're no longer a plurality. What's the big deal?


How can you have diversity if one group slowly stops going to university?
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A_Good_Boy
12/10/18 4:35:42 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
So they're no longer a plurality. What's the big deal?


How can you have diversity if one group slowly stops going to university?

Where do you see anything about them stopping?
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Giant_Aspirin
12/10/18 4:41:06 PM
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what's the problem?
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darkphoenix181
12/10/18 4:41:34 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
So they're no longer a plurality. What's the big deal?


How can you have diversity if one group slowly stops going to university?

Where do you see anything about them stopping?


They are dwindling down past minority status is the implication of the article is it not?
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s0nicfan
12/10/18 4:43:58 PM
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It's interesting to see all the discomfort from people in academia here based solely on the fact that the very perception of catering to white males carries a racist connotation even when their actual policies apply due to their position as an actual minority.
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Zerocide
12/10/18 4:46:10 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
what's the problem?

If it ain't white, it ain't right.
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CornBarn
12/10/18 5:41:10 PM
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up
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Vita_Aeterna
12/10/18 6:01:18 PM
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Not seeing a problem.
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darkjedilink
12/10/18 6:04:00 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's interesting to see all the discomfort from people in academia here based solely on the fact that the very perception of catering to white males carries a racist connotation even when their actual policies apply due to their position as an actual minority.

This. They spent decades catering to minorities, to the detriment of the majority, and now to attempt to correct the disparity they created, they think they're being racist.
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MARKINGRAM22
12/10/18 6:04:50 PM
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How about they just stop admitting people based on race?
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Chadawah
12/10/18 6:19:52 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
How about they just stop admitting people based on race?
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CornBarn
12/10/18 6:20:08 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
How about they just stop admitting people based on race?


Wtf we hate affirmative action now
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EliteC
12/10/18 6:21:37 PM
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Watch redcaps like affirmative action now
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darkphoenix181
12/10/18 6:22:46 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
How about they just stop admitting people based on race?


Problem is colleges have argued that diversity is a high ideal that admissions strives to create.

If they don't care about diversity, sure. And then it is argued that the college would be majority asian.
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rikasa
12/10/18 6:23:06 PM
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if you don't give white men concrete accomplishments to focus on - like a college degree or a well paying job or a hot wife - then the only thing they have left to be proud of is being a white man and they've kind of proven it's a toxic mindset
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Ryuko_Chan
12/10/18 9:15:54 PM
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rikasa posted...
if you don't give white men concrete accomplishments to focus on - like a college degree or a well paying job or a hot wife - then the only thing they have left to be proud of is being a white man and they've kind of proven it's a toxic mindset

Interesting point
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CornBarn
12/10/18 9:17:29 PM
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rikasa posted...
if you don't give white men concrete accomplishments to focus on - like a college degree or a well paying job or a hot wife - then the only thing they have left to be proud of is being a white man and they've kind of proven it's a toxic mindset


Being proud of being a black woman or an Asian man or a Jewish woman or an Indian man are also toxic mindsets, because you didn't choose to be born that way.
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Damn_Underscore
12/10/18 9:18:26 PM
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rikasa posted...
if you don't give white men concrete accomplishments to focus on - like a college degree or a well paying job or a hot wife - then the only thing they have left to be proud of is being a white man and they've kind of proven it's a toxic mindset


yikes, oof, etc.
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Bloodychess
12/10/18 9:18:42 PM
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Sounds like the system they set up is working as intended
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s0nicfan
12/12/18 10:31:06 AM
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CornBarn posted...
Previous research has indicated that university staff have a mixed reaction to schemes aimed specifically at white boys in case it leads to accusations of racism.


Any idea what research they're talking about? Or do they just mean an internal survey?
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CornBarn
12/12/18 10:38:10 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
CornBarn posted...
Previous research has indicated that university staff have a mixed reaction to schemes aimed specifically at white boys in case it leads to accusations of racism.


Any idea what research they're talking about? Or do they just mean an internal survey?


It reads as if it is an internal survey but I'm not sure.
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