Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Joshua and Estelle Bright vs The Point Man

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KanzarisKelshen
11/28/18 7:59:06 PM
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Joshua and Estelle Bright have challenged The Point Man to a fight! Location of the fight: Lynchwood - The Wild West-style settlement as seen in Borderlands 2. Attackers will begin at the entrance to the town, with defenders starting inside the Gunslinger's Corner.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Joshua and Estelle Bright are as they appear across the Trails series, equipped with their best weapons and armor, one Gladiator Belt for each one, as well as a Power Orb for Joshua and a Soul Orb for Estelle. Joshua has access to all Time, Space, Fire and Water Orbal Arts seen in Trails in the Sky SC, while Estelle has access to all Earth, Mirage, Water and Air Orbal Arts. Both are equipped with Onyx Gems, Cast 2, Move 3, Gold Gems, and Heaven's Eye quartz for the purposes of their specific benefits, as well as the most beneficial Gems of each type of element they have access to.

~VS~

The Point Man is as he appears in F. E. A. R. 3, armed with every weapon available in F. E. A. R. 1 (base game only) and F.E.A.R. 3, with full access to his psionic powers. He does not have the help of Paxton Fettel, nor any sort of protection from Alma.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/28/18 7:59:14 PM
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I bet most people on this board know about Estella and Joshua by now, but just in case, I'll post a quick hype package for them. They come from a very well regarded jRPG series, which rather thoughtfully recreates the classic setup of PSX/Early PS2 era jRPGs but gives them a more grown-up, thought-out context. They have access to various elemental spells, buffs and debuffs of all kinds, healing, the ability to stop the first two physical attacks that hit them each (rapid shot bursts are counted as one attack in game), which is an ability that Estelle can recast, and have access to limit break-esque abilities they can rapidly build up and reuse. Throughout their games they fight tanks, assault helicopters, dragons and ancient mecha built thousands of years ago. Joshua in particular has a few interesting speed/skill feats - he manages to jump between two airships that are not particularly close by mid-flight, and manages to defeat a powerful enemy, Lwe, who repeatedly solos the entire party without much effort and whose sword can sunder a barrier that twists space like a pretzel to render its user completely impregnable to all attack. You can see their duel here:

(WARNING: the following link contains very heavy Trails in the Sky SC spoilers! Don't watch if you're planning to play it!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jXidODZnSM" data-time="


All in all, they're a very capable pair, with absolutely excellent synergy with each other. Estelle's setup here renders her more oriented towards spellcasting and defense - Joshua excels at offensive spellcasting, and even moreso at melee combat.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/28/18 8:00:49 PM
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And a summary of the Point Man from DeathChicken, as he knows the FEAR games very well, to match.

So Point Man. I'll spare everyone a wall of text and hit the neat bits about this guy.

http://fear.wikia.com/wiki/Point_Man

- In a nutshell, he's a psionically enhanced super soldier with crazyass reflexes: in game terms, it means he has bullet time on demand that slows everything to a crawl and makes people in his immediate area wail "He's too fast" while he lazily dodges around their bullets and messily kills them

- In terms of plot, he solos over 500 enemies in the span of the first game. We know this because it's a story point that he goes in against a battalion of 1000 Replica troops (basically engineered lab soldiers programmed with all the military training evil science could provide), by the end of it, a little over half of that number were dead because of Point Man

- His mom is a reality warping Sadako-looking girl who can flay men alive by waving at them. Notable mainly just because Point Man is the only one who survives any kind of encounter with her without being exploded into goo

- Sets off an exploding nuclear reactor, ends up on the outskirts of the explosion. This somehow does not kill him and his allies are left to go "How the hell are you alive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHyWIzqwpro" data-time="&start=124


- His weapons include a multi-barrel rocket launcher, an armor piercing nailgun, a sniper laser rifle. The last of which pretty much disintegrates anything not wearing super heavy armor in one shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCD65LFaFI8" data-time="


I know nothing about who he's facing here so I shall not even argue this match! But Point Man is crazypants

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DeathChicken
11/28/18 8:22:28 PM
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Ooh, he gets FEAR 3 weapons too? Then off the top of my head, add the Arc Laser (a beam that ricochets between targets after you hit one, so he can hit multiple people at once without having to aim), a handgun that shoots knockout drugs, and a guided rocket launcher
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KanzarisKelshen
11/28/18 8:32:20 PM
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DeathChicken posted...
Ooh, he gets FEAR 3 weapons too? Then off the top of my head, add the Arc Laser (a beam that ricochets between targets after you hit one, so he can hit multiple people at once without having to aim), a handgun that shoots knockout drugs, and a guided rocket launcher


Yeah I'm giving Josh and Estelle feats from their guest appearances (if they have anything in Trails of Cold Steel?) so I figured it was only fair to make Point Man current too
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DeathChicken
11/28/18 10:14:57 PM
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Okay, so since I'm not familiar with the Brights, how would they react to a bullet time gunman who has a laser that will hit both of them at once? And also has enough melee skill to dropkick armored super soldiers and make them die
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greengravy294
11/28/18 10:33:33 PM
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Gonna have to go with the m3 merc
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Tom Bombadil
11/28/18 10:35:54 PM
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the matrixy dude :(
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Meow1000
11/28/18 10:42:05 PM
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He sounds like some optional super boss they'd have no chance of beating without eventual plot hax
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Mewtwo59
11/28/18 11:17:10 PM
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Even if the Brights can survive Point Man's attacks without being instagibbed, I don't see how they have the damage output required to win this. This just seems like a major mismatch in favor of The Point Man.
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NFUN
11/28/18 11:29:03 PM
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do the brights get the power of friendship?
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Logience
11/28/18 11:36:37 PM
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Ill be honest, I have no idea what the Trails games are like. But Theyre RPGs, so I assume they have some kind of crazy superpowered special attacks with overlong apocalyptic animations. In which case, not even bullet-time and railguns could stand up to that kind of BS.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/29/18 12:05:58 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Even if the Brights can survive Point Man's attacks without being instagibbed, I don't see how they have the damage output required to win this. This just seems like a major mismatch in favor of The Point Man.


Point Man isn't that tanky. He dies to a few bullets in gameplay. If you want context on the explosion, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_stnNyhHLE" data-time="&start=549


And re: how do they deal with someone that fast, you can see in the link above how Joshua can move so fast he appears to be in eight places at once (he can do this consistently - one of his techniques involves making tangible clones via speed). In addition, as mentioned above, they have a guaranteed nosell of Point Man's first two attacks, each. They also have speed buffs AND debuffs to counter him with, too.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/29/18 12:07:04 AM
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DeathChicken posted...
Okay, so since I'm not familiar with the Brights, how would they react to a bullet time gunman who has a laser that will hit both of them at once? And also has enough melee skill to dropkick armored super soldiers and make them die


With regards to this, the answer is probably the same way they deal with the apocalyptic lasers they've faced - use cover, use misdirection, and use magic to make them soakable.
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StealThisSheen
11/29/18 12:11:18 AM
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Brights are fun but this seems like a mismatch for Point Man
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