Board 8 > How are the Let's Go Pokemon games

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lets not try to be hateful
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79% on game rankings, 2nd lowest mainline after emerald.
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Pretty fun. Extremely easy though.
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JonThePenguin posted...

Pretty fun. Extremely easy though.

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JackMan posted...

JonThePenguin posted...

Pretty fun. Extremely easy though.

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Graphics, music, presentation are all incredible.

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.
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wg64Z posted...

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.

i've really come around on a lot of conceptual stuff about the game i wasn't a fan of, largely due to nanis' topic on the board here. but stripping away abilities and held items really still doesn't sit well with me. who thought that stuff was too complicated?!

STElNER posted...

but stripping away abilities and held items really still doesn't sit well with me. who thought that stuff was too complicated?!

I could see Let's Go being a good starting point to get young kids into the series since the battle system has been simplified due to the removal of abilities and held items.
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STElNER posted...

wg64Z posted...

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.

i've really come around on a lot of conceptual stuff about the game i wasn't a fan of, largely due to nanis' topic on the board here. but stripping away abilities and held items really still doesn't sit well with me. who thought that stuff was too complicated?!

Not really stripping them away if they were never in RBY to begin with. This is a remake of the original games after all.
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It's been enjoyable to observe the visual refresh and notice little changes here and there. Endgame seems especially unappealing. I don't like how you can seemingly boost any Pokemon's stats outrageously high using easily obtainable candies.
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wg64Z posted...

Not really stripping them away if they were never in RBY to begin with. This is a remake of the original games after all.

i dunno. fire red and leaf green exist. plenty of other modernizations since rby made it in.

LusterSoldier posted...

I could see Let's Go being a good starting point to get young kids into the series since the battle system has been simplified due to the removal of abilities and held items.

i just think that pokemon, especially this game, is easy enough that it would be fine to ignore these things if you wanted to, but it almost feels insultingly simple this way

My take on the difficulty -
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77207486/912688218
I guess I can add-

Rule number 5 - do not use candies
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I really think the multiplayer features make this game worth getting if you have someone to play the game with. It's unarguably a step backward for the franchise in some ways (removed features, removed online, further Kanto pandering, etc.), but it's a huge step forward in things like graphics, the multiplayer feature, and seeing Pokemon in the overworld.

The game is insultingly easy, on the same lines as the Alola games. As a result, it's not fun.

Amie was hilarious even in the main games. Literally had a Pokemon survive at 1HP 6 times in a row. Probably super low odds of that happening, but it was amazing to see. Didnt know about the lack of abilities and held items. This game sounds easy enough for a 4-5 year old to beat fairly easily. Maybe that was the intent to capture a new generation of fans? I dont know.

taillow22 posted...

I really think the multiplayer features make this game worth getting if you have someone to play the game with. It's unarguably a step backward for the franchise in some ways (removed features, removed online, further Kanto pandering, etc.), but it's a huge step forward in things like graphics, the multiplayer feature, and seeing Pokemon in the overworld.

See and this is what I think bodes well for the real game next year imo
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I'm actually enjoying it a lot re-exploring Kanto with the updated overworld & such mechanics

"too easy" isn't getting in my way since I prefer to focus on catching 'em all anyways which means I constantly have a team of weaklings I'm trying to evolve so I'm still getting beaten down a lot
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as someone who stopped paying attention to the games after bw2, im enjoying it a lot.

it's the perfect, chill return to kanto. and people acting like the main quest in most pokemon games aren't laughably easy need to chill. this is definitely a little easier than those (so far,I've only just beaten misty), but you can keep yourself relatively in check by not chain catching a ton of pokemon and by limiting use of your partner pokemon (they still travel on your shoulder).
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The newer ones with exp share off were actually somewhat challenging because the games were designed to be played with it on. They really should do a Hard mode available from the start instead of the half-assed thing B/W tried with it. Not that Pokemon is ever really hard outside of the cheating battle arenas

swordz9 posted...

The newer ones with exp share off were actually somewhat challenging because the games were designed to be played with it on. They really should do a Hard mode available from the start instead of the half-assed thing B/W tried with it. Not that Pokemon is ever really hard outside of the cheating battle arenas

Yeah I played Sun and Moon with the exp share off and I was severely underleveled for the elite 4.
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Im having a lot of fun with it so far. I didnt want or expect any kind of challenge. Its just a fun, pretty romp through Kanto. Its a game you can just relax and enjoy. Im hoping they do a Lets Go gen 2 remake next.
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I hear the difficulty ramps up a little bit around the fourth gym as long as you're not going crazy catching literally everything or using your starter for everything
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hombad46 posted...

swordz9 posted...

The newer ones with exp share off were actually somewhat challenging because the games were designed to be played with it on. They really should do a Hard mode available from the start instead of the half-assed thing B/W tried with it. Not that Pokemon is ever really hard outside of the cheating battle arenas

Yeah I played Sun and Moon with the exp share off and I was severely underleveled for the elite 4.

that's not fun difficulty though. that's just forced tedium
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Agreed, which is why I turned it on for Ultra Sun
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I've been toying with the idea of having 2 people play simultaneously side by side, using Nuzlocke rules and seeing who can beat the E4/Catch Mewtwo first. This would of course make up for the lack of difficulty because at that point you would be competing more against each other, than the game itself. We could even have friendly matches at certain points in the game, potentially for bonus points.

Maybe a 1 point for each Gym you beat BEFORE the other, or lose 1 point for having a Pokemon faint. Would there be any interested in that?

As far as Nuzlocke rules they would be:

Nickname all Pokemon
1 Pokemon Caught Per Route/Dungeon (The one that spawns physically closest to you upon entering)
If a Pokemon Faints, they get released/discarded. If Pikachu/Eevee faint, they get permanently benched.
Battle style would be set to "Set" (If that's even possible in this game.

Would there be any interest in setting up a series like this? Trying to think of some new unique ideas for the channel.
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wg64Z posted...

Graphics, music, presentation are all incredible.

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.

Incredible doesn't mean what it used to if anyone truly thinks this game's qualify. The art is nice and it's pretty, but the graphics would have been easily possible on a Playstation 3.
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kingcam07 posted...

wg64Z posted...

Graphics, music, presentation are all incredible.

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.

Incredible doesn't mean what it used to if anyone truly thinks this game's qualify. The art is nice and it's pretty, but the graphics would have been easily possible on a Playstation 3.

More polygons =/= better. I get a great deal of enjoyment out of the graphics, and that to me makes them incredible.
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kingcam07 posted...

wg64Z posted...

Graphics, music, presentation are all incredible.

Game is very easy, but when has Pokemon ever been difficult? Do not miss fighting wild Pokemon honestly. Kind of like that there are two different systems for Wild and Trainer battles.

Incredible doesn't mean what it used to if anyone truly thinks this game's qualify. The art is nice and it's pretty, but the graphics would have been easily possible on a Playstation 3.

And the quality of this post would have been easily possible on an Atari Jaguar
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wg64Z posted...

1 Pokemon Caught Per Route/Dungeon (The one that spawns physically closest to you upon entering)

You do know you need 50 unique pokemon to be able to challenge Koga... right...?
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Zigzagoon posted...

wg64Z posted...

1 Pokemon Caught Per Route/Dungeon (The one that spawns physically closest to you upon entering)

You do know you need 50 unique pokemon to be able to challenge Koga... right...?

Well no, I've barely played it. Wtf? What do you mean?
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Almost every gym in the game has a "requirement" that you have to meet before challenging it.

Brock you NEED to have a Grass/Water pokemon
Sabrina you NEED to have a level 45+ pokemon
Koga you NEED to have 50 unique pokemon.

I forget the rest.
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Zigzagoon posted...

Almost every gym in the game has a "requirement" that you have to meet before challenging it.

Brock you NEED to have a Grass/Water pokemon
Sabrina you NEED to have a level 45+ pokemon
Koga you NEED to have 50 unique pokemon.

I forget the rest.

Looking at Serebii they seem to be
Brock: have a grass/water type
Misty: Have a level 15+ pokemon
Surge: Essentially the same as before, you gotta be able to cut trees
Erika: Have a cute pokemon, which your partner counts as so it's basically free
Koga: 50 unique pokemon
Sabrina: pokemon level 45+
Blaine: Same as before, get the secret key
Giovanni: Complete the story up to that point and get mega stone from Blue
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Well that's...just...stupid.

But I guess, we could run around and capture 50 pokemon offscreen, get into the gym, then ditch them. That would still adhere to the rules.
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Would evolving Pokemon work too?
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charmander6000 posted...

Would evolving Pokemon work too?

I think so, the exact wording is "you need to have at least 50 species of Pokmon registered into your Pokdex"
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Then it's possible. Though it is possible to lock yourself out if you lose too many Pokemon before they evolve.
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You also have a finite amount of battles, if you're only allowed to catch one Pokemon per area. You can't fight wild Pokemon after all.
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weird
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If the game demands you to catch Pokemon as your proceed, perhaps the rules need to be changed. Maybe you can catch all you want, but you can only actively USE the first/closest Pokemon you see per route/dungeon. Would that make sense?
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wg64Z posted...

If the game demands you to catch Pokemon as your proceed, perhaps the rules need to be changed. Maybe you can catch all you want, but you can only actively USE the first/closest Pokemon you see per route/dungeon. Would that make sense?

Maybe something in the middle, like you can only use the first thing you see, and you can only catch things you don't already have.
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wg64Z posted...

If the game demands you to catch Pokemon as your proceed, perhaps the rules need to be changed. Maybe you can catch all you want, but you can only actively USE the first/closest Pokemon you see per route/dungeon. Would that make sense?

catching all you want would give you potentially infinite experience
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Wait, you mean grinding in an RPG gives you a never ending flow of EXP points?!

How is this any different from a regular Nuzlocke?
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HashtagSEP posted...

wg64Z posted...

If the game demands you to catch Pokemon as your proceed, perhaps the rules need to be changed. Maybe you can catch all you want, but you can only actively USE the first/closest Pokemon you see per route/dungeon. Would that make sense?

Maybe something in the middle, like you can only use the first thing you see, and you can only catch things you don't already have.

Ooo I do like that. Restricts what you can catch while not walling your progress.
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JackMan posted...

You also have a finite amount of battles, if you're only allowed to catch one Pokemon per area. You can't fight wild Pokemon after all.

I don't have the game, but I thought your entire team gets experience from trainer battles.

Okay, assuming you need to beat Koga to surf we have

21 routes
Viridian Forest
Mt. Moon
Diglett's Cave
Rock Tunnel
Pokemon Tower

And I know you can get Pokemon in a few cities, so let's say ~30 Pokemon caught.

It's doable, but may require luck (especially if you don't ban duplicates)
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charmander6000 posted...

Okay, assuming you need to beat Koga to surf we have

you do not, I don't think there's any gyms are required for all the Special Techniques (HM replacement) other than Pewter and Cerulean (for the kid to let you go to Mt. Moon, and the cop to let you enter the burgled house)
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charmander6000 posted...

I don't have the game, but I thought your entire team gets experience from trainer battles.

They do, but you also get way more experience from catching wild Pokemon than you do trainer battles.
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wg64Z posted...

Wait, you mean grinding in an RPG gives you a never ending flow of EXP points?!

How is this any different from a regular Nuzlocke?

i dunno anything about nuzlocke but if the point is challenge and you're allowing yourself to grind all you want then what the fuck is the point is all I'm saying
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Nuzlocking is good because when you face all player challengers your team is going to be slightly lower than required for gyms in the good pokemon games, you can grind and be over leveled but for certain parts (red) it's just too much of a time constraint.

the parts that turn boys into men are when you get wipe out, left with only one level 5 pokemon late game, and you grind the shit out of it and rebuild your team from the ground up for pure vengeance
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CelesMyUserName posted...

charmander6000 posted...

Okay, assuming you need to beat Koga to surf we have

you do not, I don't think there's any gyms are required for all the Special Techniques (HM replacement) other than Pewter and Cerulean (for the kid to let you go to Mt. Moon, and the cop to let you enter the burgled house)

Well that adds 3 more routes, Pokemon Mansion, Seafoam Islands and the Power Plant.
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hombad46 posted...

Looking at Serebii they seem to be
Brock: have a grass/water type
Misty: Have a level 15+ pokemon
Surge: Essentially the same as before, you gotta be able to cut trees
Erika: Have a cute pokemon, which your partner counts as so it's basically free
Koga: 50 unique pokemon
Sabrina: pokemon level 45+
Blaine: Same as before, get the secret key
Giovanni: Complete the story up to that point and get mega stone from Blue

I guess to make things easier or to stop sequence breaking?

But yea, kinda handholdish

YOU CAN"T FIGHT THE ROCK GYM UNTIL YOU CAN TOTALLY FUCK HIM UP UTTERLY
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