Poll of the Day > Comcast FIRES a 10 YEAR Employee after he was outed as a PROUD BOY!!!

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Full Throttle
11/15/18 9:48:44 PM
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Would you hire someone if you knew they were part of "Proud Boys"? - Results (6 votes)
Yes
33.33% (2 votes)
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No
66.67% (4 votes)
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Comcast has fired a LONG TIME employee in Philadelphia after he was outed as a far-right member of the group PROUD BOYS!!

Andrew Kovalic was exterminated on Wednesday from the cable company following a petition started by left-wing activists who showed a photo of him flashing the white power sign and petitioned for his firing.

400 signatures were signed as it was started by nonprofit Media Mobilizing Project and addressed Comcast CEO Brian Roberts stating "Comcast: Fire white supremacist Andrew Kovalic Now" as they called him an embarassment and an insult to communities of Philadelphia and the country

Comcast told Dailymail "Theere's no place for disrespectful, offensive behaviour in our culture. The individual is no longer employed by Comcast"

His now shut down linkedln page said he's worked there for over 10 YEARS as the group found him wearing a comcast uniform and flashing the white power sign with the caption "I did this for my Proud Boys. We're not going anywhere white brothers"

Proud Boys and other alt-right groups are rallying in Philadelphia on 11/17 as Andrew is Proud Boys Rally Captain and was doing security for that day at Harrisburg PA Proud Boys called the "We the people" rally

The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration

When asked for a comment from the group, they said "We like beer. We still like beer. Have a dick pic. We F*** women. We are the superior race. Sincerely, the Greatest F***ing Fraternity in the history of mankind."

Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

They were banned on Facebook and Instagram in October as Amazon and Paypal also cut ties with them

Would you hire someone if you knew they were part of "Proud Boys"?

Andrew - Beggar

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/18/6234588-6394377-Ten_year_employee_Andrew_Kovalic_was_fired_from_Comcast_on_Wedne-m-34_1542306630588.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/17/6234586-6394377-image-m-24_1542304367810.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/17/6234584-6394377-image-a-22_1542304347424.jpg

Proud Pigs -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/17/6235294-6394377-image-a-23_1542304353271.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/18/6236248-6394377-image-a-25_1542305843918.jpg
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Lokarin
11/15/18 9:51:02 PM
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What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.
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Enclave
11/15/18 9:55:18 PM
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Fair, next.
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Zeus
11/15/18 9:56:28 PM
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Lokarin posted...
What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.


It's the SPLC, they once labeled Ben Carson a threat. The SPLC is a ludicrously well-funded extreme-left advocacy group whose functions include spreading propaganda.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/15/18 10:08:17 PM
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Zeus posted...
Lokarin posted...
What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.


It's the SPLC, they once labeled Ben Carson a threat. The SPLC is a ludicrously well-funded extreme-left advocacy group whose functions include spreading propaganda.


Are you saying they're wrong about this group?
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ninja_lootz
11/16/18 12:10:42 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration

The vast majority of Americans are pro all of these things, except pro life of course.
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jramirez23
11/16/18 12:14:59 AM
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Larry the Cable Guy?
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ASlaveObeys
11/16/18 12:27:08 AM
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I still don't get how you differentiate that gesture with that stupid game where people make you look at their hand or an OKAY gesture.
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wwinterj25
11/16/18 12:35:57 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
Would you hire someone if you knew they were part of "Proud Boys"?

Providing they can keep their personal view out of the work environment and do not make it out my company share the same views I'd have no issue employing anyone save for those who have committed extreme crimes like rape.
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minervo
11/16/18 12:40:31 AM
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I wouldn't hire any gang member.
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Zeus
11/16/18 12:56:16 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
Lokarin posted...
What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.


It's the SPLC, they once labeled Ben Carson a threat. The SPLC is a ludicrously well-funded extreme-left advocacy group whose functions include spreading propaganda.


Are you saying they're wrong about this group?


I'm saying that the SPLC is inherently untrustworthy and given their agenda it's extremely likely that anything they claim is either exaggerated or outright fictitious.

And, if Ducky's description is true ("The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration"), then I don't see any issue.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/16/18 1:04:57 AM
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Zeus posted...
I'm saying that the SPLC is inherently untrustworthy and given their agenda it's extremely likely that anything they claim is either exaggerated or outright fictitious.


Cool. So are you saying they're wrong about this group?
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Zeus
11/16/18 1:21:35 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm saying that the SPLC is inherently untrustworthy and given their agenda it's extremely likely that anything they claim is either exaggerated or outright fictitious.


Cool. So are you saying they're wrong about this group?


How nice of you to only quote part of my response, purposefully ignoring the portion that answers the question:

Zeus posted...
And, if Ducky's description is true ("The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration"), then I don't see any issue.

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HelIWithoutSin
11/16/18 1:28:34 AM
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Zeus posted...
HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm saying that the SPLC is inherently untrustworthy and given their agenda it's extremely likely that anything they claim is either exaggerated or outright fictitious.


Cool. So are you saying they're wrong about this group?


How nice of you to only quote part of my response, purposefully ignoring the portion that answers the question:

Zeus posted...
And, if Ducky's description is true ("The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration"), then I don't see any issue.


Because that part of your response doesn't matter at all. You can be pro all those positions while utilizing or not utilizing violence to support those positions, as the former being attributed by the SPLC to the Proud Boys. Are you saying the SPLC is wrong?
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Zeus
11/16/18 2:02:06 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
HelIWithoutSin posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm saying that the SPLC is inherently untrustworthy and given their agenda it's extremely likely that anything they claim is either exaggerated or outright fictitious.


Cool. So are you saying they're wrong about this group?


How nice of you to only quote part of my response, purposefully ignoring the portion that answers the question:

Zeus posted...
And, if Ducky's description is true ("The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration"), then I don't see any issue.


Because that part of your response doesn't matter at all. You can be pro all those positions while utilizing or not utilizing violence to support those positions, as the former being attributed by the SPLC to the Proud Boys. Are you saying the SPLC is wrong?


Not sure what you want. The SPLC is an inherently untrustworthy organization. Anything they say is likely to be false. I would need to spend a considerable length of time to make an independent determination about the Proud Boys but, as I literally already said, if Ducky's description is true, the SPLC almost certainly (and rather deliberately) wrong. And if you're claiming that the group is violent, you might try presenting evidence to that effect instead of saying "well, they could be violent!" You're basically pressing an issue where you're literally taking the SPLC -- a source of propaganda -- on absolute faith. Do you apply that same lack of critical thinking to... you know, I can't think of a rightwing analog that comes close to approaching the ridiculousness of the SPLC.

Once again, what I am saying is that the SPLC frequently lies so anything they claim should be taken without a grain of salt rather than the rather disturbing absolute faith you've seemingly invested in them.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/16/18 2:17:09 AM
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Zeus posted...
Not sure what you want. The SPLC is an inherently untrustworthy organization. Anything they say is likely to be false. I would need to spend a considerable length of time to make an independent determination about the Proud Boys but, as I literally already said, if Ducky's description is true, they're almost certainly wrong.


Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before dismissing their claim?

Zeus posted...
And if you're claiming that the group is violent, you might try presenting evidence to that effect instead of saying "well, they could be violent!"


Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before claiming they're not violent?Zeus posted...
You're basically pressing an issue where you're literally taking the SPLC -- a source of propaganda -- on absolute faith. Do you apply that same lack of critical thinking to... you know, I can't think of a rightwing analog that comes close to approaching the ridiculousness of the SPLC.


I haven't stated any stance on the whether or not the SPLC are correct or not. I was asking for clarification of your initial response.

Zeus posted...
Once again, what I am saying is that the SPLC frequently lies so anything they claim should be taken without a grain of salt rather than the rather disturbing absolute faith you've seemingly invested in them.


This is what I'm still seeking clarification on. Is the SPLC wrong about the Proud Boys being a violent political group? You may be right about all the propaganda and exaggerations the SPLC spews and at the same time, they could still be correct about their assessment of the Proud Boys. So will you please tell me if the SPLC is wrong?
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Enclave
11/16/18 2:56:44 AM
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Unreal, ok, the SPLC is not wrong about the Proud Boys. Gavin McInnis absolutely encourages violence, actual quote from him.

"If youre wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor comes up to you and says, 'hey, are you pro-Trump?' choke him. Trust your instincts. Dont listen to what he has to say, choke him."

Also

"Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people. Trump supporters Choke a motherfucker. Choke a bitch, choke a tranny, get your fingers around the windpipe."

"Get a fucking gun, get ready to blow someones fucking head off. I've even killed people in my dreams, that's how awesome my gun is."

"Get in trouble, get arrested, get fired. Let's all get in this together, they cant kill us all."

So yeah, if you are pro-Proud Boys? I'm sorry but you're pro domestic terrorists and what does that say about you?

Now, to the mod who reads this, sorry about using an offensive word for transexuals, it's a direct quote and is a lot less powerful if censored.
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Keebs05
11/16/18 2:58:01 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
Andrew Kovalic was exterminated on Wednesday from the cable company following a petition started by left-wing activists who showed a photo of him flashing the white power sign.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/18/6234588-6394377-Ten_year_employee_Andrew_Kovalic_was_fired_from_Comcast_on_Wedne-m-34_1542306630588.jpg

When did that stop being a hand gesture for "okay?"
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Zeus
11/16/18 3:16:41 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before dismissing their claim?


When you know that a person is a liar, how much research do you bother doing when they tell you something that sounds like a lie?

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before claiming they're not violent?


No, that's on you to back up your claims unless the subject is common knowledge. You should know this.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
I haven't stated any stance on the whether or not the SPLC are correct or not. I was asking for clarification of your initial response.


You've certainly implied a stance by your repeated defense of the SPLC.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
This is what I'm still seeking clarification on. Is the SPLC wrong about the Proud Boys being a violent political group? You may be right about all the propaganda and exaggerations the SPLC spews and at the same time, they could still be correct about their assessment of the Proud Boys. So will you please tell me if the SPLC is wrong?


And I already answered that question several times. You're just trolling at this point.

Enclave posted...
Unreal, ok, the SPLC is not wrong about the Proud Boys. Gavin McInnis absolutely encourages violence, actual quote from him.

"If youre wearing a MAGA hat and some guy with a slightly punk demeanor comes up to you and says, 'hey, are you pro-Trump?' choke him. Trust your instincts. Dont listen to what he has to say, choke him."

Also

"Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people. Trump supporters Choke a motherfucker. Choke a bitch, choke a tran, get your fingers around the windpipe."

"Get a fucking gun, get ready to blow someones fucking head off. I've even killed people in my dreams, that's how awesome my gun is."

"Get in trouble, get arrested, get fired. Let's all get in this together, they cant kill us all."

So yeah, if you are pro-Proud Boys? I'm sorry but you're pro domestic terrorists and what does that say about you?

Now, to the mod who reads this, sorry about using an offensive word for transexuals, it's a direct quote and is a lot less powerful if censored.


Given the Colbert-like persona that Gavin seemingly adopts at times where he greatly embellishes for the sake of comedy, I'm going to need additional context on those alleged remarks to confirm that he wasn't just saying that stuff as part of a bit. (And, before you try to argue that context isn't important, here's an actual quote from Obama -- "We could save money by eliminating meat inspectors" -- which is quite obviously divorced from context.)

However, knowing that the founder of the organization is literally a comedian (among other things) who goes anti-PC for humor, I'm less inclined to take the claims about the group seriously.
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Enclave
11/16/18 3:17:12 AM
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Zeus posted...
Given the Colbert-like persona that Gavin seemingly adopts at times where he greatly embellishes for the sake of comedy, I'm going to need additional context on those alleged remarks to confirm that he wasn't just saying that stuff as part of a bit.

However, knowing that the founder of the organization is literally a comedian (among other things) who goes anti-PC for humor, I'm less inclined to take the claims about the group seriously.


Says a lot about you.
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Zeus
11/16/18 3:19:22 AM
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Enclave posted...
Zeus posted...
Given the Colbert-like persona that Gavin seemingly adopts at times where he greatly embellishes for the sake of comedy, I'm going to need additional context on those alleged remarks to confirm that he wasn't just saying that stuff as part of a bit.

However, knowing that the founder of the organization is literally a comedian (among other things) who goes anti-PC for humor, I'm less inclined to take the claims about the group seriously.


Says a lot about you.


Says a lot about you. Also you missed my edit:
(And, before you try to argue that context isn't important, here's an actual quote from Obama -- "We could save money by eliminating meat inspectors" -- which is quite obviously divorced from context.)

Not that context ever seems to matter to you, because you're more interested in fitting things to your narrative than determining the truth of the matter.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/16/18 3:25:34 AM
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Zeus posted...
When you know that a person is a liar, how much research do you bother doing when they tell you something that sounds like a lie?


Enough so you know what you're talking about before making a statement contradicting that lie.

Zeus posted...
No, that's on you to back up your claims unless the subject is common knowledge. You should know this.


I had no idea the Proud Boys being non-violent was common knowledge.

Zeus posted...
You've certainly implied a stance by your repeated defense of the SPLC.


Would you please quote my defense of the SPLC? All I've done was ask you to clarify your initial response.

Zeus posted...
And I already answered that question several times. You're just trolling at this point.


Uh, actually you haven't. All you've said repeatedly is the SPLC lies all the time, which is why I still need clarification. Yes or no, is the SPLC wrong, either intentionally by lying or unintentionally, about their assessment of the Proud Boys being a violent political group?
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Enclave
11/16/18 3:25:39 AM
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First off, don't assume shit about me, secondly it's no secret that Gavin McInnis routinely calls for violence, Joe Rogan called him out on it calling for violence when on his podcast.

Look at you though, going full deflect mode for an admitted white nationalist. Proud of yourself?

edit:

Anyways, I'm bowing out of this thread before I say something that'll get me suspended.
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EnvyFox
11/16/18 7:24:47 AM
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I was going to say I don't think he should have been fired just because of his personal views so long as it's separate from work but then I saw that Andrew's dumb ass threw up that hand sign while wearing his work uniform, took a photo of it and uploaded the damn thing for all to see along with those captions.

Yeah I would have given Andrew the ol' heave ho too if I found out he did this while representing my company that I own in my imagination.
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Far-Queue
11/16/18 7:38:22 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
Andrew Kovalic was exterminated on Wednesday


That's rather extreme. Talk about adding injury to insult. First, he loses his job, and then that?!
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SunWuKung420
11/16/18 7:42:12 AM
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Zues sure does sound like a proud boys rally captain in this topic.
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faramir77
11/16/18 8:38:10 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
We F*** women.


Full Throttle posted...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/15/18/6234588-6394377-Ten_year_employee_Andrew_Kovalic_was_fired_from_Comcast_on_Wedne-m-34_1542306630588.jpg


Lmao no he doesn't
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streamofthesky
11/16/18 11:46:15 AM
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EnvyFox posted...
I was going to say I don't think he should have been fired just because of his personal views so long as it's separate from work but then I saw that Andrew's dumb ass threw up that hand sign while wearing his work uniform, took a photo of it and uploaded the damn thing for all to see along with those captions.

Yeah I would have given Andrew the ol' heave ho too if I found out he did this while representing my company that I own in my imagination.

Same.

I don't agree with his views at all, but don't think that should be a reason to fire him from some innocuous cable company job. Comcast is evil anyway, he's kind of a perfect fit.

...But posting photos of your hate group extracurricular activities while wearing your work uniform is pretty fucking stupid. It's on you to keep your public and private lives separate. It'd be one thing if twits on twitter hunted down his identity and made the link to his place of employment, but he advertised it for them. No company wants to be associated with these groups.
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_AdjI_
11/16/18 11:49:04 AM
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Zeus posted...
Lokarin posted...
What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.


It's the SPLC, they once labeled Ben Carson a threat. The SPLC is a ludicrously well-funded extreme-left advocacy group whose functions include spreading propaganda.


Oh hey, ad hominem. Never seen that on the Internet before.
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Zeus
11/17/18 11:11:37 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Enough so you know what you're talking about before making a statement contradicting that lie.


Oh? Because you regularly claim that rightwing propagandists are wrong without researching any claims. Clearly you understand the idea of questioning the source, but you're just being ideologically selective over which claims you question.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
I had no idea the Proud Boys being non-violent was common knowledge.


You're making a suggestion of violence. The default assumption would be non-violence because violence is always an exception rather than the norm, at least in most developed nations.

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Would you please quote my defense of the SPLC? All I've done was ask you to clarify your initial response.


You've repeatedly defended the SPLC via your stupid, trollish pretend-clarifications to an already answered question.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Uh, actually you haven't. All you've said repeatedly is the SPLC lies all the time, which is why I still need clarification. Yes or no, is the SPLC wrong, either intentionally by lying or unintentionally, about their assessment of the Proud Boys being a violent political group?


No, I absolutely have. The fact that you persist in pretending that I haven't is trolling.

Enclave posted...
First off, don't assume shit about me,


I'm assuming nothing. I'm basing it entirely on your conduct.

Enclave posted...
secondly it's no secret that Gavin McInnis routinely calls for violence, Joe Rogan called him out on it calling for violence when on his podcast.


Secondly, it's no secret that comedians use hyperbole, hence why things like context matter.

Enclave posted...
Look at you though, going full deflect mode for an admitted white nationalist. Proud of yourself?


Look at yourself. Given everything you've said and done so far -- none of which you've truly backed up, instead relying on sensational allegations -- I'm not inclined to believe any of your claims.
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Zeus
11/17/18 11:14:17 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Zeus posted...
Lokarin posted...
What's a Proud Boy...

Also
> Proud Boys have been named as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as an all male group that promotes political violence but claim they are not a white nationalist group.

Right, you can be an ethnocentrist without also being a nationalist.


It's the SPLC, they once labeled Ben Carson a threat. The SPLC is a ludicrously well-funded extreme-left advocacy group whose functions include spreading propaganda.


Oh hey, ad hominem. Never seen that on the Internet before.


What? Do you even understand what an ad hominem is? Or are you just falsely leveling the charge to ignore the facts?

But, if you're tossing around logical fallacy allegations, I should point out that you're appealing to an authority without any real credibility.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/

2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html
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HelIWithoutSin
11/17/18 11:35:09 PM
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Zeus posted...
Oh? Because you regularly claim that rightwing propagandists are wrong without researching any claims. Clearly you understand the idea of questioning the source, but you're just being ideologically selective over which claims you question.


I do? Would you please cite some instances when I have? Even a general reference to the group and event will do.

Zeus posted...
You're making a suggestion of violence. The default assumption would be non-violence because violence is always an exception rather than the norm, at least in most developed nations.


Would you please quote when I suggested the Proud Boys were violent and also please quote my defense of the SPLC that you claimed and that I requested earlier?

Zeus posted...
You've repeatedly defended the SPLC via your stupid, trollish pretend-clarifications to an already answered question.


Again, please quote what you're talking about.

Zeus posted...
No, I absolutely have. The fact that you persist in pretending that I haven't is trolling.


You haven't answered shit. All you've said and keep saying is that the SPLC lies all the time and that you don't know but decided to open your mouth anyway. So let me ask you this, do you think the Proud Boys are a violent political group?
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Zeus
11/17/18 11:48:49 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Would you please quote when I suggested the Proud Boys were violent and also please quote my defense of the SPLC that you claimed and that I requested earlier?


You've repeatedly backed the claim that they're violent or made suggestions to the same. Given that you apparently have amnesia -- which is why you keep forgetting that I've answered your question -- I'll highlight a few places:

#14
"You can be pro all those positions while utilizing or not utilizing violence to support those positions, as the former being attributed by the SPLC to the Proud Boys. Are you saying the SPLC is wrong?"

Then #16 has a pretty clear assertion that they are violent. This is your starting position:
"Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before claiming they're not violent?"

And the rest of the topic is littered with similar suggestions where you push the suggestion of violence although, I might point out, you've yet to substantiate even *one* incident of violence. Once again, you've chosen to take at face value an organization that put Ben Carson on a watch list.

And your repeated already-answered question is a pretty clear defense of an indefensible organization.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Again, please quote what you're talking about.


Even among the rest of your nonsense, this stands out as being ridiculously egregious. You clearly know the questions I'm referring to because you keep making them.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
You haven't answered shit.


No, I answered the question.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
All you've said and keep saying is that the SPLC lies all the time and that you don't know but decided to open your mouth anyway.


I know that the SPLC lies all the time. I've also provided examples and evidence to that fact. If your entire basis for a group being dangerous is a claim by the SPLC, you need to do better unless you're also suggesting that Ben Carson is a dangerous individual when the most dangerous thing he did was lie about getting his knife stuck in a friend's belt buckle.
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Sefrig
11/17/18 11:48:59 PM
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left-leaning centrist
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Final Fantasy2389
11/17/18 11:50:06 PM
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Zeus defending the proud boys?

I'm not at all surprised.
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Yellow
11/17/18 11:59:18 PM
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Comcast is shit
Proud Boys are shit
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ninja_lootz
11/18/18 12:04:12 AM
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ITT: Everyone who gets into a fight is a terrorist.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/18/18 12:11:15 AM
#38:


Zeus posted...
You've repeatedly backed the claim that they're violent or made suggestions to the same. Given that you apparently have amnesia -- which is why you keep forgetting that I've answered your question -- I'll highlight a few places:

#14
"You can be pro all those positions while utilizing or not utilizing violence to support those positions, as the former being attributed by the SPLC to the Proud Boys. Are you saying the SPLC is wrong?"

Then #16 has a pretty clear assertion that they are violent. This is your starting position:
"Shouldn't you have done even a little amount of that before claiming they're not violent?"

And the rest of the topic is littered with similar suggestions where you push the suggestion of violence although, I might point out, you've yet to substantiate even *one* incident of violence. Once again, you've chosen to take at face value an organization that put Ben Carson on a watch list.

And your repeated already-answered question is a pretty clear defense of an indefensible organization.


Remember earlier in this topic when you were going on about context and how important it is and then decided to leave it out of this post? #14 was a response to your post about the positions the PB support and the reason why I asked you for clarification on your response about the SPLC. The PB can be violent or non violent and support all of those positions. I haven't said one way or the other if they are or aren't and I haven't said one way or the other if I believe the SPLC's assessment. I'm still waiting on your input on the matter before forming an opinion.

#16 was pointing out your hypocrisy about being diligent.

And it's funny that you point out I haven't provided any instances of the PB being violent because I haven't even said they were. Also, please cite an example of how I always go about claiming right wing propogandists are wrong without researching. My posting history is viewable on my profile. Go ahead and pick a topic or two out of there or bring up something specific you remember.

You haven't even answered the question, so I'll ask again. Never mind the SPLC, do you think the Proud Boys are a violent political group. You keep inferring you don't think they are because you think the SPLC are liars, but haven't said anything at all on your opinion of them.

Zeus posted...
I know that the SPLC lies all the time. I've also provided examples and evidence to that fact. If your entire basis for a group being dangerous is a claim by the SPLC, you need to do better unless you're also suggesting that Ben Carson is a dangerous individual when the most dangerous thing he did was lie about getting his knife stuck in a friend's belt buckle.


And again, I haven't said anything in support or against the SPLC or even if I believe them. I have kept trying to clarify if your initial response of their organization after their assessment of the PB was posted meant they're wrong.
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BlackScythe0
11/18/18 12:13:52 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Full Throttle posted...
The right wing group are people who are pro good cop, pro ICE, pro law and order, pro life, pro American value, pro gun and anti illegal immigration

The vast majority of Americans are pro all of these things, except pro life of course.


The proud boys are just a hate group of people who go out on to the streets and start randomly beating up minorities.

I'm not exaggerating at all.

But I am surprised at how much effort Zeus is putting into defending the proud boys. Like I know he's far right, but he might be further right than I realized.
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GasMonkey
11/18/18 12:43:22 PM
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after all these years people still engage zeus. lol definition of insanity
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streamofthesky
11/18/18 12:58:47 PM
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GasMonkey posted...
after all these years people still engage zeus. lol definition of insanity

It's not even about trying to convince him he's wrong, because that is impossible.

It's that if he spouts his bs and no one contests it, other people reading the topic might think it's because the rest of us agree with him.
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