Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 205: A House Divided Senate Stand

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

I mean, saying he should have his shit revoked and saying this are on different levels. Come on now.
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Eddv posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/shahed/status/1060200569590214656?s=21

If you feel sad today, just imagine Mike Pence swearing 2 women into Congress with the Qur'an

This thought did in fact make me feel better

KILLJOY WARNING

Its also factually incorrect as both of those are house members and Pence only swears in Senators

https://twitter.com/shahed/status/1060250555942092800

He's aware.

Eddv posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/shahed/status/1060200569590214656?s=21

If you feel sad today, just imagine Mike Pence swearing 2 women into Congress with the Qur'an

This thought did in fact make me feel better

KILLJOY WARNING

Its also factually incorrect as both of those are house members and Pence only swears in Senators

Yeah I was then saddened to see the facts betray the fantasy

But then I felt better again because I got to see racist idiots on Twitter flipping out over Amazon possibly casting people of color as Elves for their Middle-earth show
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Eddv posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

To emphasize how incredible Tester's win is, 538 last year complied a list of senators and how often they voted with Trump. Then, estimated how often they should vote with Trump based on the partisanship of their state.

A lot of Democrats that got picked off yesterday were disproportionately voting against Trump. Nelson was a measly -13.8. McCaskill was a -38.4. Donnelly was a -29.8. Heitkamp was a -37.8. A lot of those a very out of line with their states.

Tester was a whopping -48.2. No one else even comes CLOSE. The next closes is Sherrod Brown (hey another win yesterday) at -40.6. He is almost eight full points more off than his next closest competitor.

He voted against every single health care measure the republicans undertook. He voted against Kavanaugh without any of that "oh I might who knows tee hee" like a lot of red state democrats. He voted against Haspel. He voted for net neutrality. He voted against Pompeo. Against Pruitt. Against Mulvaney. Against Mnuchin and Price and Sessions and literally every single controversial White House appointment you can think off. Against the White House immigration proposal but for the bipartisan bill. Against all the tax codes. For sanctions. And on and on like this.

He voted against Neil Gorsuch. Democrats got hammered on attack over attack for voting against Kavanaugh, and he (from a +20 R state) voted against Gorsuch. AND WON.

He had a mere 36.7 voting with Trump record on what 538 considers important votes. In contrast, Manchin had 60% (and voted for a lot of those things above that Tester did not). That puts him a mere two points above such conservative senators as Tim Kaine and Thomas Carper. Machin is actually closer to Rand Paul than he is Tester.

Tester is pro abortion, pro LGBT rights, in a state that Trump won by 20. He single handedly dismantled Trump's attempt to head the VA with someone he desperately wanted. And Trump did every thing in his power to unseat Tester. In a state that love Trump, Trump actively campaigned against him for months.

And he won. Gg Montana I love you.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

Candidate quality matters. Jon Testeris and always has been a fucking badass. The man is missing several fingers from an accident learning how to butcher animals. He's an organic farmer in a state where thats big big business.

And as it turns out having the courage of your convictions is something that matters too. Compare him vs a fucking snake like Donnelly or a senile idiot like Nelson and people respond

Tester is a damn hero, yes. Probably my favorite non-my state senator. He's moderate on plenty of stuff, but is incredibly open with his positions, clearly states why he's doing what he's doing, and isn't afraid of making controversial decisions.

It wasn't until I went through his positions that I realized just how crazy it was he's now won three senate elections in Montana. I realize Montana has a real independent streak, but his positions are not what you'd expect from a red state democrat. But, like you said, candidate quality matters. Tester is leagues above the guys you mentioned and it definitely shows.
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Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse
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Anyway. While watching yall bitch about the non existing blue wave while getting wrecked by a red one was fun.

I really dont want to deal with politics for the next few weeks, both cause fuck these midterms thank god theyre over, but also because its the home stretch now in SMFFFC.

Have a good day yall. Night.
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So how much trouble you in for breaking your thing with Chris?
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In truth I think Jim was acting pretty badly there. It doesn't do CNN any good to start fights with the President. They should strive to stay professional. The fact that Trump constantly insults and belittles mainstream news outlets makes that more important, if anything.
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LapisLazuli posted...

So how much trouble you in for breaking your thing with Chris?

Chris didnt say a word to me on this one.

He says things out in the open. Hes not exactly a secretive guy.

This was my call. One for SMFFFC, but also because this was the most caustic election cycle in our lifetime, and yes, that is totally because of the Libs 100%.... but it still makes it so thank Christ its over and I dont want anything to do with it currently.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

It doesn't do CNN any good to start fights with the President.

It would definitely do the rest of us good though!
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Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse

Theres an entire county in Montana that has 500 people. An entire county. Thats like not even my entire subdivision growing up.

Theres a couple counties under 1000.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.

I haven't seen it yet, does he do anything that could reasonably be perceived as a karate chop

Suprak the Stud posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse

Theres an entire county in Montana that has 500 people. An entire county. Thats like not even my entire subdivision growing up.

Theres a couple counties under 1000.

if I'm not mistaken, there's a county in Texas that only has 57 people

counties are weird

Suprak the Stud posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse

Theres an entire county in Montana that has 500 people. An entire county. Thats like not even my entire subdivision growing up.

Theres a couple counties under 1000.

i swear a guy on cnn last night said tester is popular in montana but actually lives in maryland lol
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He yanks his hand back when the woman tries to take his microphone.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.

...did Ulti falsely claim that he watched the video and then repeat whatever he saw on /r/the_donald or something?
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Sceptilesolar posted...

In truth I think Jim was acting pretty badly there. It doesn't do CNN any good to start fights with the President. They should strive to stay professional. The fact that Trump constantly insults and belittles mainstream news outlets makes that more important, if anything.

Let me ask you - do you not think that those two questions posed were appropriate ones?
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after a google search apparently they said it about rosendale
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Corrik posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse

Theres an entire county in Montana that has 500 people. An entire county. Thats like not even my entire subdivision growing up.

Theres a couple counties under 1000.

i swear a guy on cnn last night said tester is popular in montana but actually lives in maryland lol

I think you got that backward. Or CNN did which wouldnt surprise me.

Rosendale is from Maryland. Tester attacked him on that over and over during the campaign as being a carpet bagger basically.
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Eddv posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

In truth I think Jim was acting pretty badly there. It doesn't do CNN any good to start fights with the President. They should strive to stay professional. The fact that Trump constantly insults and belittles mainstream news outlets makes that more important, if anything.

Let me ask you - do you not think that those two questions posed were appropriate ones?

Asking about the Russia investigation would be appropriate. I am not sure how the caravan comments were at all appropriate. He just jumps into calling Trump a liar.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Corrik posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Have we determined yet if anyone actually lives in Montana?

Thats got to be the go-to state if theres a zombie apocalypse

Theres an entire county in Montana that has 500 people. An entire county. Thats like not even my entire subdivision growing up.

Theres a couple counties under 1000.

i swear a guy on cnn last night said tester is popular in montana but actually lives in maryland lol

I think you got that backward. Or CNN did which wouldnt surprise me.

Rosendale is from Maryland. Tester attacked him on that over and over during the campaign as being a carpet bagger basically.

I thought they said it about tester, but it would make more sense if CNN was repeating misinformation about the republican than the democrat. So maybe they said testers opponent. But, they said as if it was straight up a fact that the person lives in maryland.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Asking about the Russia investigation would be appropriate. I am not sure how the caravan comments were at all appropriate. He just jumps into calling Trump a liar.

Trump did brazenly lie about the caravan. It's absolutely appropriate for the media to hold him accountable. In fact, I would argue that it's their responsibility to do so.
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I laughed so hard that the person questioning him about "invasions" didn't seem to know what invasion means. Like, straight up it was so obvious the media was trying to spin things to make him look bad with that exchange.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

Asking about the Russia investigation would be appropriate. I am not sure how the caravan comments were at all appropriate. He just jumps into calling Trump a liar.

Trump did brazenly lie about the caravan. It's absolutely appropriate for the media to hold him accountable. In fact, I would argue that it's their responsibility to do so.

I believe CNN to be fully capable of calling him a liar in more appropriate venues. And indeed they do so
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Paratroopa1 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.

I haven't seen it yet, does he do anything that could reasonably be perceived as a karate chop

Eddv posted...

He yanks his hand back when the woman tries to take his microphone.

If anything, he comes closer to karate chopping himself as he yanks his hand back to keep the mic
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Yeah who does CNN think they are trying to get actual answers instead of accept the thinnest bullshit PR
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You're effectively arguing that Trump shouldn't have to defend his statements himself and should be able to hide behind surrogates. Direct press conferences like this are the only places where Donald Trump can be forced to personally answer for his statements and actions, and the fact is that he's a massive liar. He shouldn't be immune from being directly confronted about that because of decorum or whatever.
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https://twitter.com/clintsmithiii/status/1060259028402692096?s=21

jeff sessions is the only confederate monument trump was willing to take down

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LordoftheMorons posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.

...did Ulti falsely claim that he watched the video and then repeat whatever he saw on /r/the_donald or something?

That's literally exactly what Ulti does with every video
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Corrik posted...

I laughed so hard that the person questioning him about "invasions" didn't seem to know what invasion means. Like, straight up it was so obvious the media was trying to spin things to make him look bad with that exchange.

Jim Acosta?

The caravans goal is to get to the border and request asylum. Literally not an invasion.
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Found the source of Ulti's "karate chop" claim. Surprise surprise, it's a deceptive video edit from an infowars guy:

https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1060376386412646401
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LordoftheMorons posted...

You're effectively arguing that Trump shouldn't have to defend his statements himself and should be able to hide behind surrogates. Direct press conferences like this are the only places where Donald Trump can be forced to personally answer for his statements and actions, and the fact is that he's a massive liar. He shouldn't be immune from being directly confronted about that because of decorum or whatever.

I don't see how Trump was made to answer for anything. He got in a shouting match with a reporter. What did that accomplish?

I think the plan of wanting to publicly expose Trump is so incredibly stupid. It just muddies the water and takes attention away from the actual facts. It scores some imaginary points but actively hurts the actual anti-Trump agenda in the long run. I hate it.
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If it's an invasion it's the worst damn invasion I've ever seen.

Bunch of kids in it.
Only a few thousands of them.
Announced they are coming.

Fucking hell.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

You're effectively arguing that Trump shouldn't have to defend his statements himself and should be able to hide behind surrogates. Direct press conferences like this are the only places where Donald Trump can be forced to personally answer for his statements and actions, and the fact is that he's a massive liar. He shouldn't be immune from being directly confronted about that because of decorum or whatever.

I don't see how Trump was made to answer for anything. He got in a shouting match with a reporter. What did that accomplish?

I think the plan of wanting to publicly expose Trump is so incredibly stupid. It just muddies the water and takes attention away from the actual facts. It scores some imaginary points but actively hurts the actual anti-Trump agenda in the long run. I hate it.

The only thing it did was almost make Trump walk out and not answer anyone else's questions (though he was dodging them over and over but still).

He didn't have to go take an hour and a half to talk to the press.
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TheRock1525 posted...

If it's an invasion it's the worst damn invasion I've ever seen.

Bunch of kids in it.
Only a few thousands of them.
Announced they are coming.

Fucking hell.

People thinking invasion only means with armed force or something. Lol
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Sarah Sanders just shared the edited video

l o fucking l
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Sorry to keep harping how awesome Tester is, but this is actually the first election he broke 50% in. He is winning with 99% precincts reporting by 3% and that is likely to change in his favor since the last three districts are all his.

He won in 2012 by 4%.

So it is entirely possible that all the work the republicans did recruiting, and all the work Trump did coming there and campaigning, wound up helping them roughly half a percentage point in their favor.
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Corrik posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

If it's an invasion it's the worst damn invasion I've ever seen.

Bunch of kids in it.
Only a few thousands of them.
Announced they are coming.

Fucking hell.

People thinking invasion only means with armed force or something. Lol

Just for the record, do you believe the migrant caravan is attempting an invasion?
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Well T_D's source was the video LotM mentioned though.

Or, if I really had to guess. Inforwars posted that. Which 4chan picked up. Which T_D then adopted. It tends to be the progression of these things.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Watched the video.

Jim Acosta literally karate chops a female. No shit he should have his press pass revoked.

In case anyone wasnt aware, there are people on the Right who actually believe this.

I saw a Facebook post with literally thousands of comments saying he should have been arrested.

Most of what I post is "what the right actually believes". Take that how you want to.

LMFAOAOAOAOAOAO

that caught backtrack. That was golden. I literally called you out on your bullshit you posted right away.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

If it's an invasion it's the worst damn invasion I've ever seen.

Bunch of kids in it.
Only a few thousands of them.
Announced they are coming.

Fucking hell.

People thinking invasion only means with armed force or something. Lol

Just for the record, do you believe the migrant caravan is attempting an invasion?

The migrant caravan is an attempted invasion yes. It is an attempt to enter into our country unwelcomed. Textbook definition of an invasion.
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If you watch the actual unedited video and conclude that there was a karate chop something is wrong with you
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Corrik posted...

The migrant caravan is an attempted invasion yes. It is an attempt to enter into our country unwelcomed. Textbook definition of an invasion.

Applying for asylum at the border is 100% legal
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Corrik posted...

The migrant caravan is an attempted invasion yes. It is an attempt to enter into our country unwelcomed. Textbook definition of an invasion.

So then all we have to do is welcome them and the issue is solved
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Seeking asylum is legal you and does not constitute invasion
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