Poll of the Day > Mobile Gaming isn't Real Gaming.

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Roman Niucumir 11/06/18 2:06:45 AM #51:	Joker_X_II posted... But what are your thoughts? Mobile games seem real enough: they typically have goals, rules, win conditions, lose conditions, and one or more player slots. Microtransactions can be annoying, as can pay-to-win aspects, but I don't think they negate most mobile games falling into a reasonable definition of games. In my view, certain types of simulation games and kinetic novels are closer to not being real games. Those are my thoughts. <cite>Roman Niucumir posted [p:911898074] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>But what are your thoughts?</quote> Mobile games seem real enough: they typically have goals, rules, win conditions, lose conditions, and one or more player slots. Microtransactions can be annoying, as can pay-to-win aspects, but I don't think they negate most mobile games falling into a reasonable definition of games. In my view, certain types of simulation games and kinetic novels are closer to not being real games. Those are my thoughts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 2:08:30 AM #52:	MICHALECOLE posted... If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? You're playing on a much smaller screen so all you're doing in playing a inferior version of those games. I'll let you work the rest out yourself. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911898129] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? </quote> You're playing on a much smaller screen so all you're doing in playing a inferior version of those games. I'll let you work the rest out yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 2:09:19 AM #53:	wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? You're playing on a much smaller screen so all you're doing in playing a inferior version of those games. I'll let you work the rest out yourself. Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911898154] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? </quote> You're playing on a much smaller screen so all you're doing in playing a inferior version of those games. I'll let you work the rest out yourself.</quote> Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 11/06/18 2:10:36 AM #54:	MICHALECOLE posted... If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? You're obvious a filthy casual poseur. REAL gamers only play Dark Souls on their custom-built rig with IV-drip and modular toilet. Also, you need to have at least three tattoos of symbols referencing really obscure games so you can be smug about it when other people don't recognize what they are. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:911898188] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? </quote> You're obvious a filthy casual poseur. REAL gamers only play Dark Souls on their custom-built rig with IV-drip and modular toilet. Also, you need to have at least three tattoos of symbols referencing really obscure games so you can be smug about it when other people don't recognize what they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 2:11:42 AM #55:	MICHALECOLE posted... Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911898203] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 2:14:15 AM #56:	ParanoidObsessive posted... MICHALECOLE posted... If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? You're obvious a filthy casual poseur. REAL gamers only play Dark Souls on their custom-built rig with IV-drip and modular toilet. Also, you need to have at least three tattoos of symbols referencing really obscure games so you can be smug about it when other people don't recognize what they are. Point proven <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911898269] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>If I play knights of the old republic or ff7 on my phone am I real gaming or fake gaming? </quote> You're obvious a filthy casual poseur. REAL gamers only play Dark Souls on their custom-built rig with IV-drip and modular toilet. Also, you need to have at least three tattoos of symbols referencing really obscure games so you can be smug about it when other people don't recognize what they are. </quote> Point proven</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 11/06/18 2:20:55 AM #57:	Mead posted... I feel like a lot of the folks that go on and on about real gaming spend a lot of their time playing call of duty or weaboo upskirt fighting games I may have an inch more respect for a mobile player over a CoD kiddie. Not much mind you, the point being Act is useless in all forms. --- Help the country - hurt a SJW. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:911898439] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like a lot of the folks that go on and on about real gaming spend a lot of their time playing call of duty or weaboo upskirt fighting games</quote> I may have an inch more respect for a mobile player over a CoD kiddie. Not much mind you, the point being Act is useless in all forms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 2:23:27 AM #58:	wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy. Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911898496] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy.</quote> Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 11/06/18 2:28:42 AM #59:	It's still technically gaming, but it's not quality gaming. It is rife with the service model rather than putting out good, polished games that offer more than "zig-zag your finger across the screen." When I say "service model" I mean paying for additions or time skips. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:911898639] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>It's still technically gaming, but it's not quality gaming. It is rife with the service model rather than putting out good, polished games that offer more than "zig-zag your finger across the screen." When I say "service model" I mean paying for additions or time skips.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 2:30:37 AM #60:	MICHALECOLE posted... Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself Then you're still playing on a small screen with less powerful hardware being as Tetris is available on most devices. Not sure your point here. On a side note: Tetris with touch screen controls sounds like ass. How can you see with your fingers covering the screen? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911898700] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> Then you're still playing on a small screen with less powerful hardware being as Tetris is available on most devices. Not sure your point here. On a side note: Tetris with touch screen controls sounds like ass. How can you see with your fingers covering the screen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 2:37:39 AM #61:	wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself Then you're still playing on a small screen with less powerful hardware being as Tetris is available on most devices. Not sure your point here. On a side note: Tetris with touch screen controls sounds like ass. How can you see with your fingers covering the screen? Less powerful hardware But on a gameboy its okay? Interesting logic.. <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911898877] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> Then you're still playing on a small screen with less powerful hardware being as Tetris is available on most devices. Not sure your point here. On a side note: Tetris with touch screen controls sounds like ass. How can you see with your fingers covering the screen?</quote> Less powerful hardware But on a gameboy its okay? Interesting logic..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 2:48:47 AM #62:	MICHALECOLE posted... Less powerful hardware But on a gameboy its okay? Interesting logic.. Considering the fact that Gameboys have/had many AAA games and not touch screen they are indeed "real" gaming devices when compared to mobile. However in answer to your question a Gameboy wouldn't cut it by todays standards in gaming of course. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911899159] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Less powerful hardware But on a gameboy its okay? Interesting logic..</quote> Considering the fact that Gameboys have/had many AAA games and not touch screen they are indeed "real" gaming devices when compared to mobile. However in answer to your question a Gameboy wouldn't cut it by todays standards in gaming of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 3:03:35 AM #63:	You heard it here, folks. Playing on a gameboy is not real gaming. Also using a touch screen is not real gaming. Sorry pikmin 3 :( <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911899531] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>You heard it here, folks. Playing on a gameboy is not real gaming. Also using a touch screen is not real gaming. Sorry pikmin 3 :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 3:06:08 AM #64:	MICHALECOLE posted... You heard it here, folks. Playing on a gameboy is not real gaming. Can you not read? I said the exact opposite of that. MICHALECOLE posted... Also using a touch screen is not real gaming. In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911899594] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>You heard it here, folks. Playing on a gameboy is not real gaming.</quote> Can you not read? I said the exact opposite of that. <cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Also using a touch screen is not real gaming.</quote> In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spooky96 11/06/18 4:22:35 AM #65:	I play a MOBA game on my phone which I'd say is pretty damn good. Too bad people who've beaten the Souls series without taking any damage in their entire run are the only ones considered real gamers. --- Fabiano > Magnus <cite>spooky96 posted [p:911901124] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>I play a MOBA game on my phone which I'd say is pretty damn good. Too bad people who've beaten the Souls series without taking any damage in their entire run are the only ones considered real gamers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dainkinkaide 11/06/18 4:22:56 AM #66:	Joker_X_II posted... The ability to take a whole game, that is WHOLE and play through it without complaint or paying for extras. A solid game without paywalls blocking (or grossly extending) progression. A game designed to be a game, and not an obvious vehicle created to milk more money into a game than the game is worth....and pretty much, most mobile games are meant to be exactly that. Of course this is my clinical definition, as I'm sure there are more articulate definitions out there too. Under this definition, most (if not all) collectible card games are not "real games". Lokarin posted... When I say game I mean it in a more literal sense, like game theory - zerosum and so on. Not being a game doesn't negate their fun. Game theory includes non-zero-sum games. The prisoner's dilemma, for example, is not zero-sum. --- The problem with the internet today is that it's filled with entire generations that did not grow up with the great wisdom of the Wyld Stallyns. <cite>dainkinkaide posted [p:911901136] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>The ability to take a whole game, that is WHOLE and play through it without complaint or paying for extras. A solid game without paywalls blocking (or grossly extending) progression. A game designed to be a game, and not an obvious vehicle created to milk more money into a game than the game is worth....and pretty much, most mobile games are meant to be exactly that. Of course this is my clinical definition, as I'm sure there are more articulate definitions out there too.</quote> Under this definition, most (if not all) collectible card games are not "real games". <cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>When I say game I mean it in a more literal sense, like game theory - zerosum and so on. Not being a game doesn't negate their fun.</quote> Game theory includes non-zero-sum games. The prisoner's dilemma, for example, is not zero-sum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YonicBoom 11/06/18 4:52:04 AM #67:	Every chance anyone has had to legitimize mobile games has been utterly blown. Pokemon Go could have and SHOULD HAVE been the game to do it, but it ended up just being microtransaction trash rather than a legendary game that made pokemon AND mobile gaming much more. <cite>YonicBoom posted [p:911901688] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>Every chance anyone has had to legitimize mobile games has been utterly blown. Pokemon Go could have and SHOULD HAVE been the game to do it, but it ended up just being microtransaction trash rather than a legendary game that made pokemon AND mobile gaming much more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trialia 11/06/18 5:38:52 AM #68:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Joker_X_II posted... it's just the excuse they use to silence disenfranchised gamers. Which is ironic, because you're essentially attempting to disenfranchise more than 50% of the total population of gamers. This. You probably actually got modded because you were trying to gatekeep, and that's one of the more unpleasant things this community has done repeatedly over the years. I would not be surprised if it has a rule against it. --- Trialia ~ unfaithful-mirror.net PSN: Trialia_X, Xaedere (100%) \| XBL: trialia, Noquelle (100%) <cite>Trialia posted [p:911902432] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>it's just the excuse they use to silence disenfranchised gamers.</quote> Which is ironic, because you're essentially attempting to disenfranchise more than 50% of the total population of gamers. </quote> This. You probably actually got modded because you were trying to gatekeep, and that's one of the more unpleasant things this community has done repeatedly over the years. I would not be surprised if it has a rule against it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/06/18 7:16:05 AM #69:	wwinterj25 posted... In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact. Whether it's on the same level or not doesn't matter. In the end, mobile games are still technically games... by definition... Also, people keep bringing up microtransactions. First, having microtransaction doesn't automictically make a game not a game. Also, you don't have to buy them. I don't buy any, but still have fun with games that have them. And a lot of games are possible without them. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911904194] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact.</quote> Whether it's on the same level or not doesn't matter. In the end, mobile games are still technically games... by definition... Also, people keep bringing up microtransactions. First, having microtransaction doesn't automictically make a game not a game. Also, you don't have to buy them. I don't buy any, but still have fun with games that have them. And a lot of games are possible without them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 11/06/18 8:45:13 AM #70:	wwinterj25 posted... In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact. Sure it is. The DS has countless examples of using a touch screen for quality gaming experiences. TWEWY, Trauma Centre, and Elite Beat Agents come immediately to mind. As a control method, a touch screen is no less valid than a controller. The only difference is that it tends to be more intuitive. Entity13 posted... games that offer more than "zig-zag your finger across the screen." Instead offering "mash some buttons"? Distilling video game control methods down to their most fundamental elements is pretty much always going to make them sound stupid, regardless of which method you're looking at. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:911906670] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>In general it isn't. I can see you're desperately trying to grasp at straws to make it sound like mobile gaming is on the same level as "real" gaming but it simply isn't. Nothing you can say will change that fact.</quote> Sure it is. The DS has countless examples of using a touch screen for quality gaming experiences. TWEWY, Trauma Centre, and Elite Beat Agents come immediately to mind. As a control method, a touch screen is no less valid than a controller. The only difference is that it tends to be more intuitive. <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>games that offer more than "zig-zag your finger across the screen." </quote> Instead offering "mash some buttons"? Distilling video game control methods down to their most fundamental elements is pretty much always going to make them sound stupid, regardless of which method you're looking at.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 11/06/18 9:34:26 AM #71:	MICHALECOLE posted... wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy. Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option. --- Help the country - hurt a SJW. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:911908306] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy.</quote> Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/06/18 9:40:01 AM #72:	DPsx7 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy. Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option. GB is better, but it doesn't mean Tetris is any less of a game because it's on a mobile device. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911908543] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy.</quote> Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option.</quote> GB is better, but it doesn't mean Tetris is any less of a game because it's on a mobile device.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 11/06/18 12:29:56 PM #73:	LinkPizza posted... DPsx7 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... wwinterj25 posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy. Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option. GB is better, but it doesn't mean Tetris is any less of a game because it's on a mobile device. For that matter, phones have more than enough screen space to have simulated buttons along with the game. You don't get the tactile feedback, but it doesn't take long to get used to. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:911916731] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Okay so if Im playing Tetris on a gameboy, what then</quote> Then you're play Tetris on a gameboy.</quote> Then what if Im playing Tetris on a phone? Bigger screen, better quality. Ill let you figure the rest out for yourself</quote> GB has buttons. Phone doesn't. Undoubtedly the GB is the better option.</quote> GB is better, but it doesn't mean Tetris is any less of a game because it's on a mobile device.</quote> For that matter, phones have more than enough screen space to have simulated buttons along with the game. You don't get the tactile feedback, but it doesn't take long to get used to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 11/06/18 1:24:50 PM #74:	Joker_X_II posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Joker_X_II posted... it's just the excuse they use to silence disenfranchised gamers. Which is ironic, because you're essentially attempting to disenfranchise more than 50% of the total population of gamers. Ahh! But can you call them real gamers if the game they play isn't even a real game to begin with? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0iHOaCmDY" data-time=" And here we have an extremely textbook example of the No True Scotsman fallacy. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:911919646] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>it's just the excuse they use to silence disenfranchised gamers.</quote> Which is ironic, because you're essentially attempting to disenfranchise more than 50% of the total population of gamers.</quote> Ahh! But can you call them real gamers if the game they play isn't even a real game to begin with? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0iHOaCmDY" data-time="</quote> And here we have an extremely textbook example of the No True Scotsman fallacy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 11/06/18 1:31:38 PM #75:	I never understood an anger some people feel towards mobile games. Yes, it is a 'real gaming', cause those are real games <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:911920022] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>I never understood an anger some people feel towards mobile games. Yes, it is a 'real gaming', cause those are real games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 1:35:27 PM #76:	vocedelmorte posted... I never understood an anger some people feel towards mobile games. Yes, it is a 'real gaming', cause those are real games I bet you think the Nintendo ds is a real gaming system Filthy casual <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911920200] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>I never understood an anger some people feel towards mobile games. Yes, it is a 'real gaming', cause those are real games</quote> I bet you think the Nintendo ds is a real gaming system Filthy casual</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/06/18 2:29:03 PM #77:	LinkPizza posted... Whether it's on the same level or not doesn't matter. In the end, mobile games are still technically games... by definition... I wasn't aware I said mobile games are not games. _AdjI_ posted... Sure it is. Nah. I mean I can only think of the DS and I believe Vita that use some form of touchscreen in the handheld market but in general most gaming consoles/handhelds don't use it. They certainly don't have you putting your fingers all over the screen on every game on the system whatever the case. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911923175] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Whether it's on the same level or not doesn't matter. In the end, mobile games are still technically games... by definition...</quote> I wasn't aware I said mobile games are not games. <cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>Sure it is. </quote> Nah. I mean I can only think of the DS and I believe Vita that use some form of touchscreen in the handheld market but in general most gaming consoles/handhelds don't use it. They certainly don't have you putting your fingers all over the screen on every game on the system whatever the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 11/06/18 2:36:41 PM #78:	Mobile gaming is real gaming but I see no reason to mod someone for saying otherwise --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:911923560] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>Mobile gaming is real gaming but I see no reason to mod someone for saying otherwise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/06/18 3:50:10 PM #79:	Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles. PS4 kind of uses it a little with that touchpad thing no the controller. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911927896] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote>Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles. PS4 kind of uses it a little with that touchpad thing no the controller.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/06/18 3:51:03 PM #80:	wwinterj25 posted... I wasn't aware I said mobile games are not games. Didn't say you did. But some people would use what you said to justify saying mobile gaming isn't real gaming because it's not on the same level... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911927943] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>I wasn't aware I said mobile games are not games. </quote> Didn't say you did. But some people would use what you said to justify saying mobile gaming isn't real gaming because it's not on the same level...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 11/06/18 3:53:02 PM #81:	Blighboy posted... Is Chess real gaming You can't spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions to get an advantage over other players in Chess, so no. Wait, I mean, yes. Fuck, this is confusing. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:911928071] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote>Is Chess real gaming</quote> You can't spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions to get an advantage over other players in Chess, so no. Wait, I mean, yes. Fuck, this is confusing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 11/06/18 4:30:31 PM #82:	LinkPizza posted... Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles. PS4 kind of uses it a little with that touchpad thing no the controller. I call that the controllers clit <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:911930293] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles. PS4 kind of uses it a little with that touchpad thing no the controller.</quote> I call that the controllers clit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 11/06/18 5:06:50 PM #83:	wwinterj25 posted... Nah. I mean I can only think of the DS and I believe Vita that use some form of touchscreen in the handheld market So... literally the entire handheld market for the past 7 years and the majority share of it for the past 15 years. As well, 3/4 major consoles of this generation (which has become weirdly split by the Switch's early release and the Xbone/PS4's longer lifespans, but no matter) feature a touch screen to some degree or another. Of course, even if we do pretend that your "they aren't present in the core gaming market" premise weren't completely wrong, that doesn't matter in the slightest. The point you're trying to make is that touch screens are not a legitimate control method for "real" games, which is too strong an assertion to be supported by "nobody's done it yet" (that being a classic Argument from Ignorance). To make that assertion, you need to define "real games" in a manner that would preclude ever using a touch screen to control them, and that's pretty much impossible to do without resorting to circular logic (i.e. "a real game is a game that isn't controlled by a touch screen, therefore touch screens can't be used to control real games"). Don't get me wrong, the vast majority of the mobile market is utter garbage. That's nothing to do with phones' validity as a gaming system, though, or anything that invalidates touch screens as a control method. That's purely a consequence of how accessible and unregulated the platform is, and in turn how easy it is to sell a low-effort f2p cash grab. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:911932261] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah. I mean I can only think of the DS and I believe Vita that use some form of touchscreen in the handheld market</quote> So... literally the entire handheld market for the past 7 years and the majority share of it for the past 15 years. As well, 3/4 major consoles of this generation (which has become weirdly split by the Switch's early release and the Xbone/PS4's longer lifespans, but no matter) feature a touch screen to some degree or another. Of course, even if we do pretend that your "they aren't present in the core gaming market" premise weren't completely wrong, that doesn't matter in the slightest. The point you're trying to make is that touch screens are not a legitimate control method for "real" games, which is too strong an assertion to be supported by "nobody's done it yet" (that being a classic Argument from Ignorance). To make that assertion, you need to define "real games" in a manner that would preclude ever using a touch screen to control them, and that's pretty much impossible to do without resorting to circular logic (i.e. "a real game is a game that isn't controlled by a touch screen, therefore touch screens can't be used to control real games"). Don't get me wrong, the vast majority of the mobile market is utter garbage. That's nothing to do with phones' validity as a gaming system, though, or anything that invalidates touch screens as a control method. That's purely a consequence of how accessible and unregulated the platform is, and in turn how easy it is to sell a low-effort f2p cash grab.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/07/18 12:03:33 AM #84:	LinkPizza posted... But some people would use what you said to justify saying mobile gaming isn't real gaming because it's not on the same level... Mobile gaming isn't real gaming. That's my point and I stick by that so great. LinkPizza posted... Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles. Hence why I said "most" consoles/handhelds don't. I'm well aware Nintendos obsession with gimmicks. Not a surprise though given their main market over in Japan loves the mobile platform too. _AdjI_ posted... The point you're trying to make is that touch screens are not a legitimate control method for "real" games, which is too strong an assertion to be supported by "nobody's done it yet" (that being a classic Argument from Ignorance). Yeah touch screens suck arse for gaming. That is indeed one reason I don't consider mobile phones games as real games. Limited hardware and small screens are the others but the biggest reason is because most mobile games are stripped down versions of console games because the platform simply can't run most games without doing so yet. You love mobile gaming? That's fine man. You do you but that changes nothing for me and until mobile games are anything more than hot garbage I'll stand by that the games are not "real" games are are simply there for the casual market. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911958249] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But some people would use what you said to justify saying mobile gaming isn't real gaming because it's not on the same level...</quote> Mobile gaming isn't real gaming. That's my point and I stick by that so great. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Switch and Wii U use touch screen for home consoles.</quote> Hence why I said "most" consoles/handhelds don't. I'm well aware Nintendos obsession with gimmicks. Not a surprise though given their main market over in Japan loves the mobile platform too. <cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>The point you're trying to make is that touch screens are not a legitimate control method for "real" games, which is too strong an assertion to be supported by "nobody's done it yet" (that being a classic Argument from Ignorance).</quote> Yeah touch screens suck arse for gaming. That is indeed one reason I don't consider mobile phones games as real games. Limited hardware and small screens are the others but the biggest reason is because most mobile games are stripped down versions of console games because the platform simply can't run most games without doing so yet. You love mobile gaming? That's fine man. You do you but that changes nothing for me and until mobile games are anything more than hot garbage I'll stand by that the games are not "real" games are are simply there for the casual market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/07/18 1:06:34 AM #85:	wwinterj25 posted... Yeah touch screens suck arse for gaming. Maybe for you. Even if it is a gimmick, Nintendo makes it fun. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. It just means you don't like it. But many people do. Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming. By literal definition, too. It's still a game. Most may be crappy, but they are literally still games. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911960991] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah touch screens suck arse for gaming.</quote> Maybe for you. Even if it is a gimmick, Nintendo makes it fun. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. It just means you don't like it. But many people do. Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming. By literal definition, too. It's still a game. Most may be crappy, but they are literally still games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/07/18 1:18:31 AM #86:	LinkPizza posted... Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. Yes, yes it does as only my opinion matters. LinkPizza posted... Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming. Nobody is saying it isn't. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911961531] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. </quote> Yes, yes it does as only my opinion matters. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming.</quote> Nobody is saying it isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 11/07/18 1:20:19 AM #87:	wwinterj25 posted... LinkPizza posted... Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming. Nobody is saying it isn't. Well, except for TC. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:911961603] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming.</quote> Nobody is saying it isn't.</quote> Well, except for TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/07/18 1:23:42 AM #88:	Sarcasthma posted... wwinterj25 posted... LinkPizza posted... Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming. Nobody is saying it isn't. Well, except for TC. And the others agreeing with him... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:911961760] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, I still believe mobile gaming it still gaming.</quote> Nobody is saying it isn't.</quote> Well, except for TC.</quote> And the others agreeing with him...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/07/18 1:23:53 AM #89:	Sarcasthma posted... Well, except for TC. I believe the TC is saying it isn't "real" gaming not that it isn't gaming at all. Although I suppose if you take that sentence literally it makes no sense as they are games and they are a reality. Still I understand he means that mobile games are for the casual folk and he isn't wrong. "I'm a gamer I play candy crush!" just seems odd. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911961770] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>Well, except for TC.</quote> I believe the TC is saying it isn't "real" gaming not that it isn't gaming at all. Although I suppose if you take that sentence literally it makes no sense as they are games and they are a reality. Still I understand he means that mobile games are for the casual folk and he isn't wrong. "I'm a gamer I play candy crush!" just seems odd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 11/07/18 1:39:41 AM #90:	wwinterj25 posted... Sarcasthma posted... Well, except for TC. I believe the TC is saying it isn't "real" gaming not that it isn't gaming at all. Although I suppose if you take that sentence literally it makes no sense as they are games and they are a reality. Still I understand he means that mobile games are for the casual folk and he isn't wrong. "I'm a gamer I play candy crush!" just seems odd. I think you might be giving him too much credit. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:911962366] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>Well, except for TC.</quote> I believe the TC is saying it isn't "real" gaming not that it isn't gaming at all. Although I suppose if you take that sentence literally it makes no sense as they are games and they are a reality. Still I understand he means that mobile games are for the casual folk and he isn't wrong. "I'm a gamer I play candy crush!" just seems odd.</quote> I think you might be giving him too much credit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 11/07/18 1:50:22 AM #91:	Sarcasthma posted... I think you might be giving him too much credit. Maybe. That's my interpretation of it anyway. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:911962812] in Mobile Gam... [t:77174488]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>I think you might be giving him too much credit.</quote> Maybe. That's my interpretation of it anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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