Poll of the Day > why does humanity hurts

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Fighting for objectively good ideas over bad ideas. Why must it hurt so much? why is it so bad to want good ideas to preceed. Why are those who wanna preserve it bad guys. I dont wanna be the bad guy, so why am i seen as one. But why is it not wrong to not believe in bad ideas? Tell me why?

Why do people like me get lumped as bad. Bigotry is for everyone.
Logical bigotry "to be against certain bad ideas"
illogical irrational bigotry "to be against certain groups because irrational reasons"

Like i dont get it. Why am i bad? Is human sacrifice not wrong? Is killing not wrong? Why... I dont understand. I dont wanna be labeled as a bad guy. So why is i the main villain. We must respect people are different. But ideas that arent (foreign or our own)... Like... i dont know anymore. Like they are not less humans but ideas have certain values...

Like i dont know. Why must it be like this, why must all of it be so...

It would really be great if you stopped posting

You seem like the type of person who calls all of his own ideas "objectively good" even though most of them suck.

Chewster posted...

It would really be great if you stopped posting

I dont really understand stuff at times. I'm just an idiot

Why can't humanity be more united, why can't certain ethnic groups realize their place?
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For example. Bigotry would be, to sort of have bad vibes of not letting totalitarianism or mafia religious cultures such as "Traditional Christianity like Catholicism or Orthodoxy" and Sunni islam (Dont know anything about shia) but which i studied their text over the years. If you have mafia religious and totalitarianism that is just extra. Starship trooper author of book and movie 1997 is good example of view point on it from authors view and movie satire view.

Like am i a bigot for saying this... Its nothing wrong being a human. But i dont know. Like i just feel like crap that i have to say it. I am a theist, but i believe in god of obvious good and evil since i believe abrahamic ones were made for spite, not for truth. Since what if thinking of certain ideas of group of people makes you enter death, then what? So its why i dont believe it.

But... i feel messed up sometimes. Like i am not apathetic. I am not

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Why can't humanity be more united, why can't certain ethnic groups realize their place?

I am a believer of individuality. Well i dont mind whatever one thinks since i like that believe have different views on what works the best how they see it, i am sort of nation state with borders to have legals come over, and try to have order that way. But that people who are good people can just do what they have ambitions of etc

Chewster posted...

It would really be great if you stopped posting

Kappa02 posted...

Why is it not wrong to not believe in bad ideas? Tell me why?

It is, but guess what? People with bad ideas believe their ideas are good and so counter ideas are bad.

Kappa02 posted...

Is human sacrifice not wrong? Is killing not wrong?

No, it's not. This is the black and white thinking that wrecks your mind.

Murder and killing are separate entities, we already make a distinction for when killing is right. The problem is everybody thinks they know what that boundary is and the most extreme amongst us act based on their own distinction which is deemed wrong by the rest of us who are equally ignorant.

We all lack some kind of information that stops our view from being infallible, so this means you can never be sure if you made the right move and you will always meet resistance.
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Are you Thanos?
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None of it hurts.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Kappa02 posted...

Why is it not wrong to not believe in bad ideas? Tell me why?

It is, but guess what? People with bad ideas believe their ideas are good and so counter ideas are bad.

Kappa02 posted...

Is human sacrifice not wrong? Is killing not wrong?

No, it's not. This is the black and white thinking that wrecks your mind.

Murder and killing are separate entities, we already make a distinction for when killing is right. The problem is everybody thinks they know what that boundary is and the most extreme amongst us act based on their own distinction which is deemed wrong by the rest of us who are equally ignorant.

We all lack some kind of information that stops our view from being infallible, so this means you can never be sure if you made the right move and you will always meet resistance.

But i think some stuff have objective right and wrong, like there is a case if you punch someone long enough and realising that maybe it is not good. Its all about the obvious good and bad. Human sacrifice i consider objectively wrong since it sends signals that killing people is good because of beliefs instead of trying to take care of people. There just are some ideas within cultures, our own or others that dont have good values on a obvious logical reasoning.

Either case i consider humans flawed beings, that learn from their mistakes

Good and bad aren't definitive rules of nature. Those are concepts made up for humans to force other humans into a survivable society, and those are always in constant change. Some accept the changes, some doesn't, and conflict is born.

In the end, good and bad means absolutely nothing. The true rule of this world is that every action have consequences that are not always predictable. You're free to do whatever you want, but you need to make a choice keeping in mind what may happen to you and the world around you in return.

VixYW posted...

Good and bad aren't definitive rules of nature. Those are concepts made up for humans to force other humans into a survivable society, and those are always in constant change. Some accept the changes, some doesn't, and conflict is born.

In the end, good and bad means absolutely nothing. The true rule of this world is that every action have consequences that are not always predictable. You're free to do whatever you want, but you need to make a choice keeping in mind what may happen to you and the world around you in return.

Subjectiveness makes absolutely no sense though. By that logic killing people "for fun i mean" is as good as not killing people. Its obvious that there is some obvious good and bad forces in anything. Its more that people who dont believe in accountability says that to just feel good about themself

Kappa02 posted...

VixYW posted...

Good and bad aren't definitive rules of nature. Those are concepts made up for humans to force other humans into a survivable society, and those are always in constant change. Some accept the changes, some doesn't, and conflict is born.

In the end, good and bad means absolutely nothing. The true rule of this world is that every action have consequences that are not always predictable. You're free to do whatever you want, but you need to make a choice keeping in mind what may happen to you and the world around you in return.

Subjectiveness makes absolutely no sense though. By that logic killing people "for fun i mean" is as good as not killing people. Its obvious that there is some obvious good and bad forces in anything. Its more that people who dont believe in accountability says that to just feel good about themself

Not really. You say now that killing is bad, but if you look to the past, it wasn't always like this. Just like something that is okay nowadays will be considered obviously bad in the future, and vice versa. That's how it all works.

Did someone argue with you that human sacrifice is good?
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VixYW posted...

Kappa02 posted...

VixYW posted...

Good and bad aren't definitive rules of nature. Those are concepts made up for humans to force other humans into a survivable society, and those are always in constant change. Some accept the changes, some doesn't, and conflict is born.

In the end, good and bad means absolutely nothing. The true rule of this world is that every action have consequences that are not always predictable. You're free to do whatever you want, but you need to make a choice keeping in mind what may happen to you and the world around you in return.

Subjectiveness makes absolutely no sense though. By that logic killing people "for fun i mean" is as good as not killing people. Its obvious that there is some obvious good and bad forces in anything. Its more that people who dont believe in accountability says that to just feel good about themself

Not really. You say now that killing is bad, but if you look to the past, it wasn't always like this. Just like something that is okay nowadays will be considered obviously bad in the future, and vice versa. That's how it all works.

Yeah thats because when the two tribes early ancestry and humanity seperated, it was kinda over. Humanity has been screwed long because of different cultures waring against other cultures. Its only now i think that we have tools able to try to understand one another. To try to educate and see how people react when using logic or understanding that some ideas have worse or are objectively worse than other ideas due to logic and objective reasoning for it.

Like an example... Even if a messed up culture would support cannibalism, human sacrifice, even if that were the case in past or now. Because we know better. Though i understand it goes more in line with religious cultures that sanctions certain ideas as eternal. A link for it if you wanna read my views on it.
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/islamic-hadiths-summary-read-them-all.213792/

But either case, i am just saying bottom line, some stuff have objective standards to what is ok or not due to what we know. Though religious people are more hard wired though

First of all, you are not the main villain except in your own psychotic mind. Second, it's ok to be a warrior, just be careful not to lay a finger on anyone or else you'll have fingers laid on you. Get it? Use your words to fight battles, and soon you will find weak people run from you and strong people love you. The only downside is that you will be very lonely at first.
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