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MuayThai85 10/30/18 12:35:16 PM #152:	Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695 I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it. The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea. Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race. People here on a visa are legal. People here who are permanent residents are legal. And if it truly were about legal vs illegal then you guys wouldnt be trying to end most ways of legal immigration Then their children should get added to their visa/permanent residence not magically magically become citizens simply for being born there. --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:911455379] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695 I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.</quote> The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.</quote> Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears</quote> What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race.</quote> People here on a visa are legal. People here who are permanent residents are legal. And if it truly were about legal vs illegal then you guys wouldnt be trying to end most ways of legal immigration</quote> Then their children should get added to their visa/permanent residence not magically magically become citizens simply for being born there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 12:35:28 PM #153:	I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911455391] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 12:35:33 PM #154:	Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695 I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it. The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea. Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race. People here on a visa are legal. People here who are permanent residents are legal. And if it truly were about legal vs illegal then you guys wouldnt be trying to end most ways of legal immigration Why are you jumping around in the topic of conversation? This would do little to affect legal immigration. People who get citizenship get citizenship for their kids basically automatically if they are under 18. <cite>nemu posted [p:911455396] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695 I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.</quote> The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.</quote> Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears</quote> What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race.</quote> People here on a visa are legal. People here who are permanent residents are legal. And if it truly were about legal vs illegal then you guys wouldnt be trying to end most ways of legal immigration</quote> Why are you jumping around in the topic of conversation? This would do little to affect legal immigration. People who get citizenship get citizenship for their kids basically automatically if they are under 18.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 10/30/18 12:37:56 PM #155:	MuayThai85 posted... scar the 1 posted... And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable I'm using it as an example because I am currently located there. I also stated that the MAJORITY of countries don't offer birth right citizenship. In fact, a quick Google search states that Canada and thee US are the only developed countries in the world to offer birthright citizenship meaning all those ultra progressive European countries don't all it. Yeah, but it really sounds ignorant when your justification is that China doesn't do it. China is the country actively seeking to eradicate minorities such as Uigurs and Tibetans, they're not a role model. ...and frankly, the discussion of birthright citizenship is really futile unless you factor in the context in which it exists. Like, how do you become a citizen/get permanent residency, etc. Specific mechanisms will make more sense in some systems than other. Just looking at Europe and saying "they don't have it" without taking into account in what other ways their systems differ is just incompetent. Or misleading. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:911455528] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable</quote> I'm using it as an example because I am currently located there. I also stated that the MAJORITY of countries don't offer birth right citizenship. In fact, a quick Google search states that Canada and thee US are the only developed countries in the world to offer birthright citizenship meaning all those ultra progressive European countries don't all it.</quote> Yeah, but it really sounds ignorant when your justification is that China doesn't do it. China is the country actively seeking to eradicate minorities such as Uigurs and Tibetans, they're not a role model. ...and frankly, the discussion of birthright citizenship is really futile unless you factor in the context in which it exists. Like, how do you become a citizen/get permanent residency, etc. Specific mechanisms will make more sense in some systems than other. Just looking at Europe and saying "they don't have it" without taking into account in what other ways their systems differ is just incompetent. Or misleading.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuayThai85 10/30/18 12:39:43 PM #156:	Hawaiian_punch posted... I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? And my daughter does in fact have blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin (her only Asian feature is her eye shape). And karma won't be a bitch since my daughter is a legal Canadian citizen due to her father being a Canadian citizen... --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:911455645] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view</quote> Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? And my daughter does in fact have blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin (her only Asian feature is her eye shape). And karma won't be a bitch since my daughter is a legal Canadian citizen due to her father being a Canadian citizen...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 10/30/18 12:42:08 PM #157:	MuayThai85 posted... Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? To the hard left, yes and yes. --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:911455778] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? </quote> To the hard left, yes and yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 12:44:44 PM #158:	MuayThai85 posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? And my daughter does in fact have blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin (her only Asian feature is her eye shape). And karma won't be a bitch since my daughter is a legal Canadian citizen due to her father being a Canadian citizen... Well if someone like 45 wins in Canada she will have a hard time. It isnt entirely out of the question you know? Folks like Gavin McInnes, faith Goldy and Lauren Southern sure are getting popular up there! <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911455922] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>I really hope your daughter is blonde, has blue eyes and has zero Asian-looking features at all, @MuayThai85 or else karma will be a bitch with your alt right world view</quote> Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? And my daughter does in fact have blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin (her only Asian feature is her eye shape). And karma won't be a bitch since my daughter is a legal Canadian citizen due to her father being a Canadian citizen...</quote> Well if someone like 45 wins in Canada she will have a hard time. It isnt entirely out of the question you know? Folks like Gavin McInnes, faith Goldy and Lauren Southern sure are getting popular up there!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 12:45:26 PM #159:	Bloodychess posted... MuayThai85 posted... Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? To the hard left, yes and yes. Why do you play along? We al know his posting history. Not today, but going back months. He sees acceptable human beings in 2 flavors - white and Asian <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911455954] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol I'm alt right because I believe in legal immigration and I'm against birthright citizenship. Are all those European countries alt right then? </quote> To the hard left, yes and yes.</quote> Why do you play along? We al know his posting history. Not today, but going back months. He sees acceptable human beings in 2 flavors - white and Asian</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XHJYFL 10/30/18 12:46:35 PM #160:	Based Trump --- https://imgur.com/kYb4jkz <cite>XHJYFL posted [p:911456026] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>Based Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 10/30/18 12:52:57 PM #161:	How is this guy still alive? With all the shit he has done or said he is going to do, I'm honestly surprised that there havent been more attempts on his life. Note: I am not calling for or condoning assignation --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:911456438] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>How is this guy still alive? With all the shit he has done or said he is going to do, I'm honestly surprised that there havent been more attempts on his life. Note: I am not calling for or condoning assignation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:02:23 PM #162:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... nemu posted... Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all. Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period. Translation: Im ok with the blatant loophole because we can tell these children of illegal immigranta that they are victims. Once we have established their victimhood, we can make sure theyre dependant on the government and we will do nothing to ensure these people can take care of themselves. This will ensure they will vote Democrat. Which is exactly what any of this is about. Its about trying to get more people to vote Democrat. Being a Democrat is honestly, the easiest moral choice you can decide to be. You get to be outraged all the time, pretend to care about people, and do nothing about it and just complain about how others are victims without having to lift a finger to do anything about it. From my experience, all Ive seen from the other side, is they dont want a huge government. They want normal people to be able to take care of themselves. They want people to flourish on their own without the need to make anyone a victim. This, imo, is the only true path we can take. Its the best path to ensure all people of every race or religion can be equal. The Democrats are as eager as the credit card companies for you to be reliant on them. The credit card companies LOVE the people that are in debt. This ensures they can get more money out of them with the interest penalties. Its the same concept with the left. They want you to be dependant on them. Coming from someone who is continuously outraged and constantly crying about how they are treated here, it's real rich that you're calling someone else out for a victim mentality. People born in this country are automatically citizens. That is, quite literally, the law of the land and at one point was considered crucial to the American dream. But considering how Republicans have fully embraced the "Fuck you, I've got mine" attitude in every single aspect of their politics, it isn't surprising that they now want to go directly against the law of the nation and now retroactively limit something that was once considered a bedrock foundation of this nation. And I don't give a shit about voters. People are free to vote however they want. You don't see me embracing politicians and a party who are all about limiting the access and suppressing the vote, do you? Why exactly do you have such an issue with more of this nation's legal citizens voting anyway? And spare me "The Republicans only care about equality guys" when the side that YOU empower, Caution, have routinely made life more and more difficult for the average citizen. You don't give a fuck about the every day person advancing their life, all you care about is maintaining power and control by any means necessary while pretending to hold some moral high ground as the "victim" of the big bad MSM and "evil liberals!". Fucking spare me --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911457063] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.</quote> Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.</quote> Translation: Im ok with the blatant loophole because we can tell these children of illegal immigranta that they are victims. Once we have established their victimhood, we can make sure theyre dependant on the government and we will do nothing to ensure these people can take care of themselves. This will ensure they will vote Democrat. Which is exactly what any of this is about. Its about trying to get more people to vote Democrat. Being a Democrat is honestly, the easiest moral choice you can decide to be. You get to be outraged all the time, pretend to care about people, and do nothing about it and just complain about how others are victims without having to lift a finger to do anything about it. From my experience, all Ive seen from the other side, is they dont want a huge government. They want normal people to be able to take care of themselves. They want people to flourish on their own without the need to make anyone a victim. This, imo, is the only true path we can take. Its the best path to ensure all people of every race or religion can be equal. The Democrats are as eager as the credit card companies for you to be reliant on them. The credit card companies LOVE the people that are in debt. This ensures they can get more money out of them with the interest penalties. Its the same concept with the left. They want you to be dependant on them.</quote> Coming from someone who is continuously outraged and constantly crying about how they are treated here, it's real rich that you're calling someone else out for a victim mentality. People born in this country are automatically citizens. That is, quite literally, the law of the land and at one point was considered crucial to the American dream. But considering how Republicans have fully embraced the "Fuck you, I've got mine" attitude in every single aspect of their politics, it isn't surprising that they now want to go directly against the law of the nation and now retroactively limit something that was once considered a bedrock foundation of this nation. And I don't give a shit about voters. People are free to vote however they want. You don't see me embracing politicians and a party who are all about limiting the access and suppressing the vote, do you? Why exactly do you have such an issue with more of this nation's legal citizens voting anyway? And spare me "The Republicans only care about equality guys" when the side that YOU empower, Caution, have routinely made life more and more difficult for the average citizen. You don't give a fuck about the every day person advancing their life, all you care about is maintaining power and control by any means necessary while pretending to hold some moral high ground as the "victim" of the big bad MSM and "evil liberals!". Fucking spare me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:03:26 PM #163:	MuayThai85 posted... scar the 1 posted... And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable I'm using it as an example because I am currently located there. I also stated that the MAJORITY of countries don't offer birth right citizenship. In fact, a quick Google search states that Canada and thee US are the only developed countries in the world to offer birthright citizenship meaning all those ultra progressive European countries don't all it. Because America is better than those nations and fundamentally different at our core. We're considered "the great experiment" for a damn reason, despite the wishes from people like you wanting to tear away at our core tenets. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911457123] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable</quote> I'm using it as an example because I am currently located there. I also stated that the MAJORITY of countries don't offer birth right citizenship. In fact, a quick Google search states that Canada and thee US are the only developed countries in the world to offer birthright citizenship meaning all those ultra progressive European countries don't all it.</quote> Because America is better than those nations and fundamentally different at our core. We're considered "the great experiment" for a damn reason, despite the wishes from people like you wanting to tear away at our core tenets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:03:54 PM #164:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... nemu posted... Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all. Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period. Translation: Im ok with the blatant loophole because we can tell these children of illegal immigranta that they are victims. Once we have established their victimhood, we can make sure theyre dependant on the government and we will do nothing to ensure these people can take care of themselves. This will ensure they will vote Democrat. Which is exactly what any of this is about. Its about trying to get more people to vote Democrat. Being a Democrat is honestly, the easiest moral choice you can decide to be. You get to be outraged all the time, pretend to care about people, and do nothing about it and just complain about how others are victims without having to lift a finger to do anything about it. From my experience, all Ive seen from the other side, is they dont want a huge government. They want normal people to be able to take care of themselves. They want people to flourish on their own without the need to make anyone a victim. This, imo, is the only true path we can take. Its the best path to ensure all people of every race or religion can be equal. The Democrats are as eager as the credit card companies for you to be reliant on them. The credit card companies LOVE the people that are in debt. This ensures they can get more money out of them with the interest penalties. Its the same concept with the left. They want you to be dependant on them. Coming from someone who is continuously outraged and constantly crying about how they are treated here, it's real rich that you're calling someone else out for a victim mentality. People born in this country are automatically citizens. That is, quite literally, the law of the land and at one point was considered crucial to the American dream. But considering how Republicans have fully embraced the "Fuck you, I've got mine" attitude in every single aspect of their politics, it isn't surprising that they now want to go directly against the law of the nation and now retroactively limit something that was once considered a bedrock foundation of this nation. And I don't give a shit about voters. People are free to vote however they want. You don't see me embracing politicians and a party who are all about limiting the access and suppressing the vote, do you? Why exactly do you have such an issue with more of this nation's legal citizens voting anyway? And spare me "The Republicans only care about equality guys" when the side that YOU empower, Caution, have routinely made life more and more difficult for the average citizen. You don't give a fuck about the every day person advancing their life, all you care about is maintaining power and control by any means necessary while pretending to hold some moral high ground as the "victim" of the big bad MSM and "evil liberals!". Fucking spare me slow claps <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911457147] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.</quote> Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.</quote> Translation: Im ok with the blatant loophole because we can tell these children of illegal immigranta that they are victims. Once we have established their victimhood, we can make sure theyre dependant on the government and we will do nothing to ensure these people can take care of themselves. This will ensure they will vote Democrat. Which is exactly what any of this is about. Its about trying to get more people to vote Democrat. Being a Democrat is honestly, the easiest moral choice you can decide to be. You get to be outraged all the time, pretend to care about people, and do nothing about it and just complain about how others are victims without having to lift a finger to do anything about it. From my experience, all Ive seen from the other side, is they dont want a huge government. They want normal people to be able to take care of themselves. They want people to flourish on their own without the need to make anyone a victim. This, imo, is the only true path we can take. Its the best path to ensure all people of every race or religion can be equal. The Democrats are as eager as the credit card companies for you to be reliant on them. The credit card companies LOVE the people that are in debt. This ensures they can get more money out of them with the interest penalties. Its the same concept with the left. They want you to be dependant on them.</quote> Coming from someone who is continuously outraged and constantly crying about how they are treated here, it's real rich that you're calling someone else out for a victim mentality. People born in this country are automatically citizens. That is, quite literally, the law of the land and at one point was considered crucial to the American dream. But considering how Republicans have fully embraced the "Fuck you, I've got mine" attitude in every single aspect of their politics, it isn't surprising that they now want to go directly against the law of the nation and now retroactively limit something that was once considered a bedrock foundation of this nation. And I don't give a shit about voters. People are free to vote however they want. You don't see me embracing politicians and a party who are all about limiting the access and suppressing the vote, do you? Why exactly do you have such an issue with more of this nation's legal citizens voting anyway? And spare me "The Republicans only care about equality guys" when the side that YOU empower, Caution, have routinely made life more and more difficult for the average citizen. You don't give a fuck about the every day person advancing their life, all you care about is maintaining power and control by any means necessary while pretending to hold some moral high ground as the "victim" of the big bad MSM and "evil liberals!". Fucking spare me</quote> slow claps</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 10/30/18 1:10:42 PM #165:	Thats a lot of projection there, sir. Coming from a man that supports a party that threw Dr Ford to the wolves - damn well knowing they never had concrete proof. For the slimmest of slim chances to keep Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court and to drain the clock for the midterms. So dont start preaching to me about how the Republicans are the ones who are doing anything necessary to keep power That is projection. Willing to ruin a mans life based off no physical evidence for a 2% chance that some sort of investigation could get you from losing the math battle on the Supreme Court. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:911457613] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>Thats a lot of projection there, sir. Coming from a man that supports a party that threw Dr Ford to the wolves - damn well knowing they never had concrete proof. For the slimmest of slim chances to keep Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court and to drain the clock for the midterms. So dont start preaching to me about how the Republicans are the ones who are doing anything necessary to keep power That is projection. Willing to ruin a mans life based off no physical evidence for a 2% chance that some sort of investigation could get you from losing the math battle on the Supreme Court.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:15:46 PM #166:	Caution999 posted... Coming from a man that supports a party that threw Dr Ford to the wolves - damn well knowing they never had concrete proof. For the slimmest of slim chances to keep Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court and to drain the clock for the midterms. Better than the side that called her a liar and backed by a President who insulted and mocked her. And I don't know how many times I need to tell you I didn't want Kavanaugh on the court because of his views on issues like illegal surveillance and expanding the NSA, but you don't want to hear it. Caution999 posted... So dont start preaching to me about how the Republicans are the ones who are doing anything necessary to keep power How many court cases do you need that show Republicans continuously suppressing votes? Like seriously, what's the number you need? Because I can damn well provide you with whatever the number you want as they continue to do so. But sure, keep purging voter rolls while pretending you give a fuck about people being equal. Caution999 posted... Willing to ruin a mans life based off no physical evidence for a 2% chance that some sort of investigation could get you from losing the math battle on the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh's life wasn't ruined at all, so quit with your feigned outrage. No one believes it anymore, especially from you. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911457937] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Coming from a man that supports a party that threw Dr Ford to the wolves - damn well knowing they never had concrete proof. For the slimmest of slim chances to keep Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court and to drain the clock for the midterms.</quote> Better than the side that called her a liar and backed by a President who insulted and mocked her. And I don't know how many times I need to tell you I didn't want Kavanaugh on the court because of his views on issues like illegal surveillance and expanding the NSA, but you don't want to hear it. <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>So dont start preaching to me about how the Republicans are the ones who are doing anything necessary to keep power </quote> How many court cases do you need that show Republicans continuously suppressing votes? Like seriously, what's the number you need? Because I can damn well provide you with whatever the number you want as they continue to do so. But sure, keep purging voter rolls while pretending you give a fuck about people being equal. <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Willing to ruin a mans life based off no physical evidence for a 2% chance that some sort of investigation could get you from losing the math battle on the Supreme Court. </quote> Kavanaugh's life wasn't ruined at all, so quit with your feigned outrage. No one believes it anymore, especially from you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/30/18 1:17:50 PM #167:	FLUFFYGERM posted... remember how leftists here were recently saying how the constitution is out of date, how it can be modified for things like a gun ban, etc? and how the conservatives said that it's a bad idea, a bad precedent, etc Heineken14 posted... "We love executive orders and hate the constitution now!" - right wingers --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:911458082] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>remember how leftists here were recently saying how the constitution is out of date, how it can be modified for things like a gun ban, etc? and how the conservatives said that it's a bad idea, a bad precedent, etc</quote> <cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote>"We love executive orders and hate the constitution now!" - right wingers</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_TheBlueMonk 10/30/18 1:20:35 PM #168:	so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? --- https://i.imgtc.com/CI42SZb.gif BLACKPINK IN YOUR AREA. JENNIE <3 <cite>_TheBlueMonk posted [p:911458262] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:23:27 PM #169:	_TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911458433] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/30/18 1:24:03 PM #170:	_TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? No. It can't apply retroactively.... but Donnie can't do this in the first place, so we may as well placate insane right wingers and say yes, not only will you lose your citizenship, but you'll be deported and have to personally apologize door to door to every single REAL American citizen and give them $5. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:911458461] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> No. It can't apply retroactively.... but Donnie can't do this in the first place, so we may as well placate insane right wingers and say yes, not only will you lose your citizenship, but you'll be deported and have to personally apologize door to door to every single REAL American citizen and give them $5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 10/30/18 1:26:16 PM #171:	This is all on a going forward basis. Nobody is gonna be stupid enough to try and take legal people out of the states. All I want is a plan going forward. Sounds like a pretty reasonable idea but thats just me --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:911458620] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>This is all on a going forward basis. Nobody is gonna be stupid enough to try and take legal people out of the states. All I want is a plan going forward. Sounds like a pretty reasonable idea but thats just me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:27:00 PM #172:	The Great Muta 22 posted... _TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods? <cite>nemu posted [p:911458671] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:28:11 PM #173:	nemu posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods? Lmao coming from the party of obummer is a secret Kenyan Muslim that wants to take my guns Feeeaaaaarrrr! <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911458763] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods?</quote> Lmao coming from the party of obummer is a secret Kenyan Muslim that wants to take my guns Feeeaaaaarrrr!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:30:31 PM #174:	Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods? Lmao coming from the party of obummer is a secret Kenyan Muslim that wants to take my guns Feeeaaaaarrrr! See above. You seem to have no actual argument because all you can do is jump to youre irrelevant because X believes Y. I couldnt care less about political affiliation. If the democrats took power tomorrow, literally nothing would change in my daily life. <cite>nemu posted [p:911458915] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods?</quote> Lmao coming from the party of obummer is a secret Kenyan Muslim that wants to take my guns Feeeaaaaarrrr!</quote> See above. You seem to have no actual argument because all you can do is jump to youre irrelevant because X believes Y. I couldnt care less about political affiliation. If the democrats took power tomorrow, literally nothing would change in my daily life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:31:08 PM #175:	nemu posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods? Those are the actual facts. If you think that the birthright citizenship is invalid then this person would no longer be considered a citizen and likewise would be an illegal immigrant that should be deported. I know you guys don't like to actually see how your policies impact every day people because then you have to take responsibility for what you support instead of shit posting anonymously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911458954] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods?</quote> Those are the actual facts. If you think that the birthright citizenship is invalid then this person would no longer be considered a citizen and likewise would be an illegal immigrant that should be deported. I know you guys don't like to actually see how your policies impact every day people because then you have to take responsibility for what you support instead of shit posting anonymously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:33:47 PM #176:	The Great Muta 22 posted... nemu posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _TheBlueMonk posted... so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship? According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel? You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods? Those are the actual facts. If you think that the birthright citizenship is invalid then this person would no longer be considered a citizen and likewise would be an illegal immigrant that should be deported. I know you guys don't like to actually see how your policies impact every day people because then you have to take responsibility for what you support instead of shit posting anonymously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws. <cite>nemu posted [p:911459138] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_TheBlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so my mom is an immigrant. i was born here. am i going to lose my citizenship?</quote> According to a large number of posters here you're not a true American and shouldn't live here. How does that feel?</quote> You what? Why is it so hard to argue with actual facts instead of jumping to appeals to emotion and falsehoods?</quote> Those are the actual facts. If you think that the birthright citizenship is invalid then this person would no longer be considered a citizen and likewise would be an illegal immigrant that should be deported. I know you guys don't like to actually see how your policies impact every day people because then you have to take responsibility for what you support instead of shit posting anonymously, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.</quote> Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:33:47 PM #177:	Caution999 posted... This is all on a going forward basis. Nobody is gonna be stupid enough to try and take legal people out of the states. All I want is a plan going forward. Sounds like a pretty reasonable idea but thats just me So basically you lack the fortitude to actually tell people who this should impact that you feel this way about them because it's easier to speak on hypothetical and not see the reality of who your policies impact. Come on, if you actually support this policy then step up and tell people who's parents were illegals that they aren't citizens and need to leave. After all, you want to be fair and equal, right? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911459140] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>This is all on a going forward basis. Nobody is gonna be stupid enough to try and take legal people out of the states. All I want is a plan going forward. Sounds like a pretty reasonable idea but thats just me</quote> So basically you lack the fortitude to actually tell people who this should impact that you feel this way about them because it's easier to speak on hypothetical and not see the reality of who your policies impact. Come on, if you actually support this policy then step up and tell people who's parents were illegals that they aren't citizens and need to leave. After all, you want to be fair and equal, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 10/30/18 1:34:06 PM #178:	We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:911459165] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:35:27 PM #179:	nemu posted... Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws. You're making a semantic based argument because you know how bad it would look to tell legal citizens they don't count and should be deported. Likewise illegal immigrants are, as the fucking SCOTUS has decided, protected by the Constitution. You do know that, right? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911459262] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws. </quote> You're making a semantic based argument because you know how bad it would look to tell legal citizens they don't count and should be deported. Likewise illegal immigrants are, as the fucking SCOTUS has decided, protected by the Constitution. You do know that, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 10/30/18 1:36:36 PM #180:	ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:911459337] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:37:50 PM #181:	Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Aka you know it's a bad policy that would cause mass outrage if implemented fairly so instead prefer to speak in the hypothetical with victims that don't exist yet so they can't be vocally outraged. Weak. Not to mention it goes directly against the Constitution as written, something that you Republicans tend to pick and choose to care about as it suits your goals. Caution999 posted... ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am. I don't think you're a monster, I think you're a bit of a hypocrite who whines about being treated unfairly despite the fact that you control how people perceive you based on your own actions here. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911459423] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Aka you know it's a bad policy that would cause mass outrage if implemented fairly so instead prefer to speak in the hypothetical with victims that don't exist yet so they can't be vocally outraged. Weak. Not to mention it goes directly against the Constitution as written, something that you Republicans tend to pick and choose to care about as it suits your goals. <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am. </quote> I don't think you're a monster, I think you're a bit of a hypocrite who whines about being treated unfairly despite the fact that you control how people perceive you based on your own actions here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:38:08 PM #182:	The Great Muta 22 posted... nemu posted... Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws. You're making a semantic based argument because you know how bad it would look to tell legal citizens they don't count and should be deported. Likewise illegal immigrants are, as the fucking SCOTUS has decided, protected by the Constitution. You do know that, right? No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that. <cite>nemu posted [p:911459434] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Again, please use actual facts. Show someone here saying it should be applied retroactively. Any minor who has legal citizen parents can be granted citizenship under those parents. The only thing this would change is illegal immigrants who, beyond making sure they have basic human rights, need absolutely no rights under any countrys laws. </quote> You're making a semantic based argument because you know how bad it would look to tell legal citizens they don't count and should be deported. Likewise illegal immigrants are, as the fucking SCOTUS has decided, protected by the Constitution. You do know that, right?</quote> No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 10/30/18 1:38:08 PM #183:	Remember, Trump has said on live TV that he doesn't believe people who got citizenship through birthright are citizens right now. He already doesn't think they are citizens. So there's a real possibility that he'd go even further if allowed to get away with trampling the constitution. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:911459436] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>Remember, Trump has said on live TV that he doesn't believe people who got citizenship through birthright are citizens right now. He already doesn't think they are citizens. So there's a real possibility that he'd go even further if allowed to get away with trampling the constitution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:38:36 PM #184:	Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911459471] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:39:46 PM #185:	Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. <cite>nemu posted [p:911459531] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:40:33 PM #186:	legendary_zell posted... Remember, Trump has said on live TV that he doesn't believe people who got citizenship through birthright are citizens right now. He already doesn't think they are citizens. So there's a real possibility that he'd go even further if allowed to get away with trampling the constitution. Would removing all Hispanics, south Asians, Muslims and probably blacks people ensure the GOP wins every election for the next 80 years? This is his end game <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911459567] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Remember, Trump has said on live TV that he doesn't believe people who got citizenship through birthright are citizens right now. He already doesn't think they are citizens. So there's a real possibility that he'd go even further if allowed to get away with trampling the constitution.</quote> Would removing all Hispanics, south Asians, Muslims and probably blacks people ensure the GOP wins every election for the next 80 years? This is his end game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:41:43 PM #187:	nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911459654] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:42:19 PM #188:	nemu posted... No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that. I know you said "basic human rights", and you'd be wrong. They have protected constitutional rights as decided by the courts already. That's not a loophole, that's what the law of the land decided. And you can try and fail to paint me as being "overly emotional" because I know Republicans like to think of themselves as "completely logical and fact based rational people", but that doesn't change the reality of you guys being too afraid to tell people who are the children of illegals that you don't believe they belong here or are actual citizens. You don't get to have it both ways, either you think they are legal citizens by being born in this nation or they are not. Which is it? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911459701] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that. </quote> I know you said "basic human rights", and you'd be wrong. They have protected constitutional rights as decided by the courts already. That's not a loophole, that's what the law of the land decided. And you can try and fail to paint me as being "overly emotional" because I know Republicans like to think of themselves as "completely logical and fact based rational people", but that doesn't change the reality of you guys being too afraid to tell people who are the children of illegals that you don't believe they belong here or are actual citizens. You don't get to have it both ways, either you think they are legal citizens by being born in this nation or they are not. Which is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:43:15 PM #189:	Caution999 posted... ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am. The media doesnt talk about you. Youre not 45, just a 45 wannabe <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911459767] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: Muta discovers Im not the monster the media said I am.</quote> The media doesnt talk about you. Youre not 45, just a 45 wannabe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:43:56 PM #190:	Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. <cite>nemu posted [p:911459812] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah</quote> Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 10/30/18 1:44:42 PM #191:	This was out of control twenty years ago. --- #MakeFinalFantasyGreatAgain <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:911459862] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>This was out of control twenty years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:46:34 PM #192:	nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911459990] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah</quote> Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion.</quote> When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/30/18 1:48:27 PM #193:	nemu posted... Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. Hey look, a canned response and insult from someone on the side that pretends to be full of "totally free and independent thinkers". Protip: Don't use insults that hundreds of others use if you want to be considered unique --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911460115] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. </quote> Hey look, a canned response and insult from someone on the side that pretends to be full of "totally free and independent thinkers". Protip: Don't use insults that hundreds of others use if you want to be considered unique</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:48:45 PM #194:	The Great Muta 22 posted... nemu posted... No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that. I know you said "basic human rights", and you'd be wrong. They have protected constitutional rights as decided by the courts already. That's not a loophole, that's what the law of the land decided. And you can try and fail to paint me as being "overly emotional" because I know Republicans like to think of themselves as "completely logical and fact based rational people", but that doesn't change the reality of you guys being too afraid to tell people who are the children of illegals that you don't believe they belong here or are actual citizens. You don't get to have it both ways, either you think they are legal citizens by being born in this nation or they are not. Which is it? May I ask why you think Im Republican? Thats part of the problem of your way of thinking. Anyone who thinks X must be X. X is the enemy. The enemy is evil. Its a loophole because it didnt factor in the existence of such people when it was established. It did not predict how the borders and sovereignty of countries would be developed. The children of illegal citizens should not be citizens of this country. They never should have been. It leads to bad practices like anchor babies. Those who are already citizens should obviously keep their citizenship, but it should not be a thing going forward. <cite>nemu posted [p:911460140] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>No, youre just being overly emotional based on some non-existent what-if that has nothing to do with the already what-if conversation at hand. And I said basic human rights. We do not need to go out of the way to allow loopholes that give them more privileges than that. </quote> I know you said "basic human rights", and you'd be wrong. They have protected constitutional rights as decided by the courts already. That's not a loophole, that's what the law of the land decided. And you can try and fail to paint me as being "overly emotional" because I know Republicans like to think of themselves as "completely logical and fact based rational people", but that doesn't change the reality of you guys being too afraid to tell people who are the children of illegals that you don't believe they belong here or are actual citizens. You don't get to have it both ways, either you think they are legal citizens by being born in this nation or they are not. Which is it?</quote> May I ask why you think Im Republican? Thats part of the problem of your way of thinking. Anyone who thinks X must be X. X is the enemy. The enemy is evil. Its a loophole because it didnt factor in the existence of such people when it was established. It did not predict how the borders and sovereignty of countries would be developed. The children of illegal citizens should not be citizens of this country. They never should have been. It leads to bad practices like anchor babies. Those who are already citizens should obviously keep their citizenship, but it should not be a thing going forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:51:51 PM #195:	Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth You literally are saying you think things will be hard because youve attributed some non-existent attribute to Trump. That is orange man bad. That is thinking Trump is so evil that he is going to do everything he can to keep everyone out. <cite>nemu posted [p:911460315] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah</quote> Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion.</quote> When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth</quote> You literally are saying you think things will be hard because youve attributed some non-existent attribute to Trump. That is orange man bad. That is thinking Trump is so evil that he is going to do everything he can to keep everyone out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/30/18 1:52:08 PM #196:	Hawaiian_punch posted... When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth I believe that is the latest go-to programmed response that, as the right would say.... NPCs.... say in order to disregard any criticism of Donnie. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:911460330] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth</quote> I believe that is the latest go-to programmed response that, as the right would say.... NPCs.... say in order to disregard any criticism of Donnie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:53:52 PM #197:	nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... nemu posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... Caution999 posted... We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society. Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy They can apply for the child. Its not that hard. Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion. When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth You literally are saying you think things will be hard because youve attributed some non-existent attribute to Trump. That is orange man bad. That is thinking Trump is so evil that he is going to do everything he can to keep everyone out. What would that non-existing attribute be? Pro tip- brown skin bad! Is not an argument <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911460444] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We want policies to correct loopholes moving forward. To take legal citizens and deport them now would cause mass panic and not to mention, just be plain dumb. Most of these people are already contributing members of society.</quote> Yeah I am SURE people will be thrilled to come to America on a visa or green card if they know that if for any reason they have a child here such child will get kicked out of the country as soon as their parents leave. Very productive for the economy</quote> They can apply for the child. Its not that hard.</quote> Lmao apply how? Listen to you speak. In a time where 45 is going after most ways to legally immigrate you assume anyone on a visa or green card will be able to get citizenship for their children? Hahahah</quote> Is it so hard to actually argue in reality? Orange man bad gets old fast. Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate and belittle him. There is no need to make up random bunk just because you cant argue the point on anything but emotion.</quote> When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth</quote> You literally are saying you think things will be hard because youve attributed some non-existent attribute to Trump. That is orange man bad. That is thinking Trump is so evil that he is going to do everything he can to keep everyone out.</quote> What would that non-existing attribute be? Pro tip- brown skin bad! Is not an argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 10/30/18 1:53:55 PM #198:	If this happens, it better hit his suppoters first. They should take the brunt of all his bad decisions. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:911460449] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote>If this happens, it better hit his suppoters first. They should take the brunt of all his bad decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 10/30/18 1:55:21 PM #199:	Heineken14 posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth I believe that is the latest go-to programmed response that, as the right would say.... NPCs.... say in order to disregard any criticism of Donnie. They truly are the masters of projection huh? Theyre projecting their black man bad! (Obama) and brown skin bad! NPC programming on the rest of us <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911460541] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>When have I said the words orange man bad? Stop putting words on my mouth</quote> I believe that is the latest go-to programmed response that, as the right would say.... NPCs.... say in order to disregard any criticism of Donnie.</quote> They truly are the masters of projection huh? Theyre projecting their black man bad! (Obama) and brown skin bad! NPC programming on the rest of us</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 10/30/18 1:57:43 PM #200:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... ArchiePeck posted... Court system is now weighted in his favor, he can have things "reinterpreted" lol That assumes they'll goose step on this issue. Awwww! You still have faith in the system! Cute! --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:911460698] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>Court system is now weighted in his favor, he can have things "reinterpreted" lol</quote> That assumes they'll goose step on this issue.</quote> Awwww! You still have faith in the system! Cute!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 10/30/18 1:59:02 PM #201:	Hawaiian_punch posted... What would that non-existing attribute be? Pro tip- brown skin bad! Is not an argument His argument was refuted, so he made something up that he thinks Trump will do as some sort of argument. Once you start doing that, you have left the strike zone. <cite>nemu posted [p:911460777] in Trump clai... [t:77148206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite><quote> What would that non-existing attribute be? Pro tip- brown skin bad! Is not an argument</quote> His argument was refuted, so he made something up that he thinks Trump will do as some sort of argument. Once you start doing that, you have left the strike zone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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