Current Events > Trump claims he can defy Constitution and end birthright citizenship

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Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.

Yeah because we should clearly be trying to emulate 3rd world countries with dubious human rights pasts. Should we execute inmates and charge their families for the bullet too? Should we institute a one child policy for several decades? Lets start using tiger penis as medicine too!

Funny how a guy who moved out of Canada because he has NO SKILLS TO MAKE A LIVING and married a Thai woman because they love westerners is lecturing us about immigration law, could tour average Chinese or Thai person with zero skills move to America to teach Chinese language, with no qualification? Huh?

Look at this aggression.
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Solid Sonic posted...

Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.

Yeah because we should clearly be trying to emulate 3rd world countries with dubious human rights pasts. Should we execute inmates and charge their families for the bullet too? Should we institute a one child policy for several decades? Lets start using tiger penis as medicine too!

Funny how a guy who moved out of Canada because he has NO SKILLS TO MAKE A LIVING and married a Thai woman because they love westerners is lecturing us about immigration law, could tour average Chinese or Thai person with zero skills move to America to teach Chinese language, with no qualification? Huh?

Look at this aggression.

Ethno-nationalists (him, not you) have no room to talk about aggression

pegusus123456 posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.

Here's the thing.

That doesn't fucking matter in this situation, not even a little bit. Every single person in the world should be against Trump even thinking he can do this regardless of their opinion on birthright citizenship. The most cross-eyed, slack-jawed, cross-burning racist should be against this. Why? Because it's Trump believing that he can unilaterally bypass the Constitution with no input from the other branches of government.

Dude, 45 is all about setting precedents.

The precedent he is setting right now is that he can do this. He already ignored the constitution before (emoluments clause) and rigged SCOTUS

What could stop him?

and this kids is why we should reject any arguments about modifying rights in the constitution because of how "outdated" the constitution is
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So I grew up in a place that was safe and decent; and suddenly thanks to birthright citizenship and catch and release, we have highschools dominated by ms13 and other gangs. I think anyone who doesn't think birthright citizenship and catch and release need to go is just grandstanding. The NPC meme exists for a reason guys.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

and this kids is why we should reject any arguments about modifying rights in the constitution because of how "outdated" the constitution is

no you should be able to modify the constitution just not on the whims of one insane man
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You can modify the Constitution through;
A Constitutional Convention called by 2/3rd's the states.
Or a bill by 2/3rd's the House and Senate.

How you cannot modify the Constitution;
Deranged tweeting at 3 am.
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Very_Unreliable posted...

So I grew up in a place that was safe and decent; and suddenly thanks to birthright citizenship and catch and release, we have highschools dominated by ms13 and other gangs. I think anyone who doesn't think birthright citizenship and catch and release need to go is just grandstanding. The NPC meme exists for a reason guys.

Where do you live?
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PostCrisisJ2 posted...

Very_Unreliable posted...

So I grew up in a place that was safe and decent; and suddenly thanks to birthright citizenship and catch and release, we have highschools dominated by ms13 and other gangs. I think anyone who doesn't think birthright citizenship and catch and release need to go is just grandstanding. The NPC meme exists for a reason guys.

Where do you live?

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We hate the constitution now?
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HydraSlayer82 posted...

We hate the constitution now?

Yeah we do. Those snobby Supreme Court Justices use it to shoot down plenty of good arguments.
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HydraSlayer82 posted...

We hate the constitution now?

Trump is their God now, his dictates come first and only.
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Damn it. I clicked yes. I meant to click no.

This guy is a bigoted asshole and somebody needs to tell him that a president is not a king.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Damn it. I clicked yes. I meant to click no.

How does this happen so much? Does Michael J. Fox have a ton of alts here?

Trump is garbage
News cycle renewed
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Here's something you don't get about Trump: the guy will take any side that gets him a lot of people cheering for him.

He's a crass womanizer but that's just his "rich snob" attitude. When it comes to things like this, he knows he can rile up the hardline conservative boomer crowd by pandering to them and so he starts finding everything they've ever wanted and promising it, whether or not it's realistic.

So they'll get behind him and give him adoration for being "their guy" when reality will play out much differently.

Trump is a slave to adoration. The only other thing he can do besides bask in people's acclaim is to complain about the people who won't join in.
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Sounds like a reason why people should vote!
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They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. Many other countries, both developed and non-developed, do this. Unrestricted birthright citizenship seems to be a North and South American thing. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited and wont be the last. And I'm sure all the Lefties would be creaming their pants if the second amendment were changed or removed entirely.
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VTBM posted...

They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited,

Do ya'll just not understand how the Constitution is edited?

Hint: it isn't one person deciding to do it by themselves.
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known2FAIL posted...

PostCrisisJ2 posted...

Very_Unreliable posted...

So I grew up in a place that was safe and decent; and suddenly thanks to birthright citizenship and catch and release, we have highschools dominated by ms13 and other gangs. I think anyone who doesn't think birthright citizenship and catch and release need to go is just grandstanding. The NPC meme exists for a reason guys.

Where do you live?

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VTBM posted...

They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. Many other countries, both developed and non-developed, do this. Unrestricted birthright citizenship seems to be a North and South American thing. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited and wont be the last. And I'm sure all the Lefties would be creaming their pants if the second amendment were changed or removed entirely.

Why would the kids of permanent residents be subject to family separation because 45 and his people think we should be a white ethnostate, which we have never been, anyway?

Who will Trump get to work at all his properties if he does this? Just curious if all his unemployed followers will happily clean and maintain them all for the same money he's paying his current workers.
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VTBM posted...

They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. Many other countries, both developed and non-developed, do this. Unrestricted birthright citizenship seems to be a North and South American thing. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited and wont be the last. And I'm sure all the Lefties would be creaming their pants if the second amendment were changed or removed entirely.

No, fuck that idea. I don't give a damn what other nations are doing, the entire backbone of our country is based on the freedom for all its citizens and that if you're born here you are a citizen. Likewise if you want to change this you need to actually go through the proper channels and not some stupid Stephen Miller ethno nationalist written EO. Which, by the way, would be shot down in court and only hamstring the system and cost tax payer money.

And as a gun owning liberal, you can take your strawman and shove it
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@Hawaiian_punch posted...

VTBM posted...

They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. Many other countries, both developed and non-developed, do this. Unrestricted birthright citizenship seems to be a North and South American thing. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited and wont be the last. And I'm sure all the Lefties would be creaming their pants if the second amendment were changed or removed entirely.

Why would the kids of permanent residents be subject to family separation because 45 and his people think we should be a white ethnostate, which we have never been, anyway?

You realize if this goes through it will only apply to future births, right?
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Isn't the reason you guys all have guns so that you don't have to put up with this kind of shit?
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Lonestar2000 posted...

@Hawaiian_punch posted...

VTBM posted...

They could make it so you need have at least one parent to be a citizen. Many other countries, both developed and non-developed, do this. Unrestricted birthright citizenship seems to be a North and South American thing. It's not the first time the constitution has been edited and wont be the last. And I'm sure all the Lefties would be creaming their pants if the second amendment were changed or removed entirely.

Why would the kids of permanent residents be subject to family separation because 45 and his people think we should be a white ethnostate, which we have never been, anyway?

You realize if this goes through it will only apply to future births, right?

What does they have to do with anything?

If a couple gets permanent residence in the future and then they have a kid, this still applies

Seeing a bunch of liberals on Twitter treating this as some sort of "bait," or "distraction" to be ignored until the election. Which is a fucking asinine view.
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bUt cNn iS fAkE nEwS
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Really ramping up the path towards being Hitler here.
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Antifar posted...

Seeing a bunch of liberals on Twitter treating this as some sort of "bait," or "distraction" to be ignored until the election. Which is a fucking asinine view.

Well it shifted the conversation away from Pittsburgh and the bombings.

Trump is doubling down on his fear mongering of immigration so any chance he can shift it back to this, the 5000 troops or the "invasion" its win-win for him.
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Dampproof posted...

Well it shifted the conversation away from Pittsburgh and the bombings.

It's the same conversation, if we're being honest.
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The problem is deeper that this.

This is how you go about doing ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.

Imagine you're 60 years old and need to renew your passport. But they keep it instead and then ICE kicks down your door and takes you. They insist that you need to prove that at least 1 of your parents was a citizen, your own passport and birth certificate be damned.

You're 60. Your parents are long gone. You surely don't keep a box with their expired passports do you? "Off to Mexico you go, you s****".

who can prove their parents is a citizen after they're dead? Millions of actual US citizens born from actual US citizens will get kicked out.

Obviously this will apply to Pedro Lopez whose ancestors lived in Texas before Texas was even a state. But it won't be enforced on Dmitry and Hans who are fresh off the boat and have a thick accent. Ethnic cleansing ahoy!

MangaFan462 posted...

As someone who lives in a sanctuary city, yes. Please do this yes.

It would do a lot to curb crime and poverty.

Moving poverty and crime to a different place is not fixing it
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Coastal_elite posted...

The problem is deeper that this.

This is how you go about doing ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.

Imagine you're 60 years old and need to renew your passport. But they keep it instead and then ICE kicks down your door and takes you. They insist that you need to prove that at least 1 of your parents was a citizen, your own passport and birth certificate be damned.

You're 60. Your parents are long gone. You surely don't keep a box with their expired passports do you? "Off to Mexico you go, you s****".

who can prove their parents is a citizen after they're dead? Millions of actual US citizens born from actual US citizens will get kicked out.

Obviously this will apply to Pedro Lopez whose ancestors lived in Texas before Texas was even a state. But it won't be enforced on Dmitry and Hans who are fresh off the boat and have a thick accent. Ethnic cleansing ahoy!

This guy gets it
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Please happen, please happen, PPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEEE!!!

MangaFan462 posted...

As someone who lives in a sanctuary city, yes. Please do this yes.

It would do a lot to curb crime and poverty.

San Diego and San Jose are sanctuary cities. Safest in the nation. Try again

OBCD posted...

Please happen, please happen, PPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEEE!!!

Imagine being the sad sack that owns this throwaway account.
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Lol remember right wingers flipping out about Obama using executive orders but this is cool
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Suddenly Republicans don't care about the constitution

Irregardless posted...

Suddenly Republicans don't care about the constitution

Well it sure hasnt been suddenly lol

P4wn4g3 posted...

OBCD posted...

Please happen, please happen, PPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEEE!!!

Imagine being the sad sack that owns this throwaway account.

Imagine basing worth on GameFAQs accounts HAHAHAHAHA lmfao!!! THAT'S when you know you've failed at life! xD Nice karma. Is she a good housewife? LOLOLOLOL!!!!

ah, I remember when I was 12 and posting here.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

ah, I remember when I was 12 and posting here.

Nice comeback, Mr Interesting Life hahahaha! What's gonna happen when you hit the big 3000? Are you gonna throw a party and invite all your real life friends? LMFAO!!!!! My sides!!!!!

OBCD posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

ah, I remember when I was 12 and posting here.

Nice comeback, Mr Interesting Life hahahaha! What's gonna happen when you hit the big 3000? Are you gonna throw a party and invite all your real life friends? LMFAO!!!!! My sides!!!!!

A lot of cringe from this post

P4wn4g3 posted...

ah, I remember when I was 12 and posting here.

I'm guessing from the OCBD meltdown that it's either HypnoCoosh or Funbazooka. Both are that unhinged and both are in purgatory. Leaning more towards Hypno because Funbazooka loves memes of the frog variety.
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both sides
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That seems like a fine move. I understand why it was a thing in the past, but now its simply used as a tool for people who shouldnt be here in the first place. Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.

nemu posted...

That seems like a fine move. I understand why it was a thing in the past, but now its simply used as a tool for people who shouldnt be here in the first place. Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.

fine move from very fine people, right?

Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.

Yeah because we should clearly be trying to emulate 3rd world countries with dubious human rights pasts. Should we execute inmates and charge their families for the bullet too? Should we institute a one child policy for several decades? Lets start using tiger penis as medicine too!

Funny how a guy who moved out of Canada because he has NO SKILLS TO MAKE A LIVING and married a Thai woman because they love westerners is lecturing us about immigration law, could tour average Chinese or Thai person with zero skills move to America to teach Chinese language, with no qualification? Huh?

I was making $10k/month easily while working in the wind and oil industries, it's literally how I could afford to backpack around Asia multiple times for upwards of 8 months each time (3 trips in 2 years,,, 2 months, 8 months and 6 months).

American politicians have recently suggested a one child policy as well BTW.

Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Ray_Dorset posted...

Philoktetes posted...

yeah

birthright citizenship is an outdated idea. we needed it after the civil war, but now immigrants just abuse it

Proof

Anchor babies. Illegals and even tourists will try to have a child in the US to give them a way to stay there as well

You do know your wife is Thai, right? She isnt even waifu material for the Alt right like the Japanese and Korean girls. 45 and his Alt right people dont look kindly upon her kind, or upon your marriage. Youre embracing those goons, good going man

I'm not embracing anyone. I simply have strong beliefs when it comes to immigration. I've lived in 4 different countries throughout my life (Canada, US, Thailand and now China) and I've been a legal immigrant in all of them. I also don't believe simply being born somewhere should grant you the right to stay there when your parents aren't citizens of that country.
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MuayThai85 posted...

Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.

Yeah because we should clearly be trying to emulate 3rd world countries with dubious human rights pasts. Should we execute inmates and charge their families for the bullet too? Should we institute a one child policy for several decades? Lets start using tiger penis as medicine too!

Funny how a guy who moved out of Canada because he has NO SKILLS TO MAKE A LIVING and married a Thai woman because they love westerners is lecturing us about immigration law, could tour average Chinese or Thai person with zero skills move to America to teach Chinese language, with no qualification? Huh?

I was making $10k/month easily while working in the wind and oil industries, it's literally how I could afford to backpack around Asia multiple times for upwards of 8 months each time (3 trips in 2 years,,, 2 months, 8 months and 6 months).

American politicians have recently suggested a one child policy as well BTW.

Hawaiian_punch posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Ray_Dorset posted...

Philoktetes posted...

yeah

birthright citizenship is an outdated idea. we needed it after the civil war, but now immigrants just abuse it

Proof

Anchor babies. Illegals and even tourists will try to have a child in the US to give them a way to stay there as well

You do know your wife is Thai, right? She isnt even waifu material for the Alt right like the Japanese and Korean girls. 45 and his Alt right people dont look kindly upon her kind, or upon your marriage. Youre embracing those goons, good going man

I'm not embracing anyone. I simply have strong beliefs when it comes to immigration. I've lived in 4 different countries throughout my life (Canada, US, Thailand and now China) and I've been a legal immigrant in all of them. I also don't believe simply being born somewhere should grant you the right to stay there when your parents aren't citizens of that country.

it's funny how you've been able to immigrate to 4 countries while you'd not have been able to do so to america if you had been chinese or thai in the same manner. You're one of those "I will use the ladder, then pull it up" kind of guys.

It'd be funny if your wife got pregnant and china told you that your son/daughter needs to get the fuck out.