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TomNook20
10/30/18 11:11:31 AM
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10/30/18 11:13:29 AM
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OBCD
10/30/18 11:15:15 AM
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Unimpressed posted...
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ah, I remember when I was 12 and posting here.

I'm guessing from the OCBD meltdown that it's either HypnoCoosh or Funbazooka. Both are that unhinged and both are in purgatory. Leaning more towards Hypno because Funbazooka loves memes of the frog variety.


Lmao good ol' libs. No sense of the world outside of their own, made up, snowflake safe spaces. Anyhow, I'll play along and say I'm not whoever the hell you think I am (new to this site and I've already just about had enough.)
And cant respond to the real subject, being how awesome and educating (especially politically) it must be to spend the majority of your life on a video game site.
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:17:19 AM
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nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.
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MuayThai85
10/30/18 11:18:59 AM
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Coastal_elite posted...

it's funny how you've been able to immigrate to 4 countries while you'd not have been able to do so to america if you had been chinese or thai in the same manner. You're one of those "I will use the ladder, then pull it up" kind of guys.

It'd be funny if your wife got pregnant and china told you that your son/daughter needs to get the fuck out.


They actually wouldn't because I would get them the proper visa to stay with us. I have a residence permit, as does my wife and daughter. If we had another child while living here then I would get them one as well.

And sure, it might not be as easy for some people but life isn't always fair. Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "fuck the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:19:02 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Birthright citizenship shouldn't exist anywhere. Only way you should have birthright citizenship to any country is if one of your parents is a citizen of that country. Most countries don't allow you to be a citizen simply because you were born there.

I live in China (Canadian, wife is Thai). If I had another child while living here do you think they'll be able to get Chinese citizenship? Not a fucking chance. Same goes for most places in the world.


Yeah because we should clearly be trying to emulate 3rd world countries with dubious human rights pasts. Should we execute inmates and charge their families for the bullet too? Should we institute a one child policy for several decades? Lets start using tiger penis as medicine too!

Funny how a guy who moved out of Canada because he has NO SKILLS TO MAKE A LIVING and married a Thai woman because they love westerners is lecturing us about immigration law, could tour average Chinese or Thai person with zero skills move to America to teach Chinese language, with no qualification? Huh?


I was making $10k/month easily while working in the wind and oil industries, it's literally how I could afford to backpack around Asia multiple times for upwards of 8 months each time (3 trips in 2 years,,, 2 months, 8 months and 6 months).

American politicians have recently suggested a one child policy as well BTW.

Hawaiian_punch posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...
Philoktetes posted...
yeah

birthright citizenship is an outdated idea. we needed it after the civil war, but now immigrants just abuse it


Proof


Anchor babies. Illegals and even tourists will try to have a child in the US to give them a way to stay there as well



You do know your wife is Thai, right? She isnt even waifu material for the Alt right like the Japanese and Korean girls. 45 and his Alt right people dont look kindly upon her kind, or upon your marriage. Youre embracing those goons, good going man


I'm not embracing anyone. I simply have strong beliefs when it comes to immigration. I've lived in 4 different countries throughout my life (Canada, US, Thailand and now China) and I've been a legal immigrant in all of them. I also don't believe simply being born somewhere should grant you the right to stay there when your parents aren't citizens of that country.


> has immigrated 4 times
> is against others immigrating to the US/Canada

Huehuehue
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Unimpressed
10/30/18 11:19:35 AM
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Coastal_elite
10/30/18 11:23:14 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Coastal_elite posted...

it's funny how you've been able to immigrate to 4 countries while you'd not have been able to do so to america if you had been chinese or thai in the same manner. You're one of those "I will use the ladder, then pull it up" kind of guys.

It'd be funny if your wife got pregnant and china told you that your son/daughter needs to get the fuck out.


They actually wouldn't because I would get them the proper visa to stay with us. I have a residence permit, as does my wife and daughter. If we had another child while living here then I would get them one as well.

And sure, it might not be as easy for some people but life isn't always fair. Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "fuck the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?


Ah, you're one of those "fuck you, I got mine" dudes lol XD

Who is talking about robbing and stealing here? Birthright citizenship is LEGAL, and it also benefits LEGAL immigrants such as people on visas or permanent resident status. 45 will use this to go after minority citizens.

You keep shilling for white supremacists, turns out you have a daughter, so she is at least half asian. It'd be a shame in the Canadian government were to be overtaken by supremacist types too and she got discriminated too ;)
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nemu
10/30/18 11:25:58 AM
#110:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:30:36 AM
#111:


nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:34:27 AM
#112:


nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Then you need to ratify the Constitution the legal way, not put forth a shitty EO that will not hold up in court and only going to cost the tax payer more money. And good luck with that.

Likewise way to just straight up say you hate what this country is all about.
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scar the 1
10/30/18 11:34:38 AM
#113:


Hmm, the national debt is up, despite Mnuchin saying it would go down after the tax cuts. The tax cuts only helped the 1%. Tons of Republicans are saying that they'll fight for support for pre-existing conditions while at the same time supporting a lawsuit attempting to undo those supports. And so on.
Guess what Trump does to distract? He tweets about this shit, and the media completely eats it up.
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nemu
10/30/18 11:34:41 AM
#114:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?

Then go through whatever process needed to get them citizenship. People on a Visa can plan for that ahead of time and work under those parameters. What does this have to do with race? Do you think only non-white people come here legally and illegally?
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MuayThai85
10/30/18 11:35:04 AM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...


> has immigrated 4 times
> is against others immigrating to the US/Canada

Huehuehue


Not against immigration at all. I'm against illegal immigration and anchor babies.

Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?


Then once their parents become citizens then so can they. If your child is born in the country and you as their parents don't manage to get citizenship in the next 18 years then that's no ones problem but your own.
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:35:38 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Then once their parents become citizens then so can they. If your child is born in the country and you as their parents don't manage to get citizenship in the next 18 years then that's no ones problem but your own.


I'm glad you no longer live in this country tbh
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Alphamon
10/30/18 11:37:43 AM
#117:


MuayThai85 posted...
Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "f*** the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?

Wait, didn't you work as a driver for prostitutes in Canada? Hardly lawful work.
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:37:47 AM
#118:


nemu posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?

Then go through whatever process needed to get them citizenship. People on a Visa can plan for that ahead of time and work under those parameters. What does this have to do with race? Do you think only non-white people come here legally and illegally?


THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Thats what birthright citizenship is for. But you and the very fine people want to get done with it.
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:38:43 AM
#119:


Alphamon posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "f*** the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?

Wait, didn't you work as a driver for prostitutes in Canada? Hardly lawful work.


Lmao

Its different though, he is white!
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MuayThai85
10/30/18 11:40:48 AM
#120:


Alphamon posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "f*** the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?

Wait, didn't you work as a driver for prostitutes in Canada? Hardly lawful work.


Actually, it was 100% legal and I even paid taxes on my income. The agency I worked for was also legally licensed and taxed.

Hawaiian_punch posted...


THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Thats what birthright citizenship is for. But you and the very fine people want to get done with it.


Uh, yes they can...
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nemu
10/30/18 11:42:07 AM
#121:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?

Then go through whatever process needed to get them citizenship. People on a Visa can plan for that ahead of time and work under those parameters. What does this have to do with race? Do you think only non-white people come here legally and illegally?


THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Thats what birthright citizenship is for. But you and the very fine people want to get done with it.

A quick search on google shows: https://www.murthy.com/2011/05/27/derivative-citizenship-children-of-naturalized-u-s-citizens/

That seems to show the parents getting citizenship makes getting children citizenship easy, if not automatic. Is that site somehow wrong?
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:42:11 AM
#122:


MuayThai85 posted...
Alphamon posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Some people are born poor, should they be able to say "f*** the law" and rob/steal to give them a leg up in life?

Wait, didn't you work as a driver for prostitutes in Canada? Hardly lawful work.


Actually, it was 100% legal and I even paid taxes on my income. The agency I worked for was also legally licensed and taxed.

Hawaiian_punch posted...


THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Thats what birthright citizenship is for. But you and the very fine people want to get done with it.


Uh, yes they can...


How so, wise aryan law scribe ?
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:42:50 AM
#123:


nemu posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.

And it honestly shouldnt. It only applies to people here on vacation, people here on a visa, or people here illegally. The first two have no need for their kids to have dual citizenship. People here illegally dont need any kind of extended rights like that at all. It would likely lessen their desire to come if they know that any child birthed here would not be granted citizenship without a parent with citizenship.


Youre not too bright, sorry.

People on a visa may become citizens later. But if their kids were born before the parents became citizens and reach certain age then the kids will NOT be citizens and will have to leave.

Its a terrible inhumane policy. But hey, go white power right?

Then go through whatever process needed to get them citizenship. People on a Visa can plan for that ahead of time and work under those parameters. What does this have to do with race? Do you think only non-white people come here legally and illegally?


THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THEM CITIZENSHIP.

Thats what birthright citizenship is for. But you and the very fine people want to get done with it.

A quick search on google shows: https://www.murthy.com/2011/05/27/derivative-citizenship-children-of-naturalized-u-s-citizens/

That seems to show the parents getting citizenship makes getting children citizenship easy, if not automatic. Is that site somehow wrong?


See the part in bold? Try again
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Coastal_elite
10/30/18 11:44:06 AM
#124:


Why are you entertaining this bullshit?

I already explained what's the main purpose with this. Thousands of legal citizens born from legal citizens will get kicked out because they can't prove that their parents were legal citizens too.
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HylianFox
10/30/18 11:45:24 AM
#125:


Darkman124 posted...
Which, of course, means the GOP plan would be to change elections in such a way as to hold power forever.

Which is something that they already do

Just look at Texas
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:46:22 AM
#126:


nemu posted...
A quick search on google shows: https://www.murthy.com/2011/05/27/derivative-citizenship-children-of-naturalized-u-s-citizens/

That seems to show the parents getting citizenship makes getting children citizenship easy, if not automatic. Is that site somehow wrong?


Did you even read your article and see in the example this line:

Mr. and Mrs. Smith were born in the United States and, thus, are U.S. citizens.

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Malcrasternus
10/30/18 11:48:03 AM
#127:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Our founding fathers never envisioned people walking around with a machine that can spray a room with bullets.


They never envisioned mass shitposting through a handheld machine, or one that can be carried anywhere and have access to the entire modern world yet here you are, happily chugging along.

They couldn't envision a fraction of the things we have now, but they were smart enough to know technology would advance, and accommodated for it. It's why the bill of rights doesn't say freedom to own a musket, and only a musket the same way it doesn't say the freedom to own and operate a printing press, and only a printing press.
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nemu
10/30/18 11:49:32 AM
#128:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
A quick search on google shows: https://www.murthy.com/2011/05/27/derivative-citizenship-children-of-naturalized-u-s-citizens/

That seems to show the parents getting citizenship makes getting children citizenship easy, if not automatic. Is that site somehow wrong?


Did you even read your article and see in the example this line:

Mr. and Mrs. Smith were born in the United States and, thus, are U.S. citizens.

Is there a reason youre skipping the other two examples? The children in those two are granted citizenship upon the parent becoming a citizen.
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Lonestar2000
10/30/18 11:51:45 AM
#129:


@Coastal_elite posted...
Why are you entertaining this bullshit?

I already explained what's the main purpose with this. Thousands of legal citizens born from legal citizens will get kicked out because they can't prove that their parents were legal citizens too.

Why do people think this will be applied retroactively?
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:51:51 AM
#130:


nemu posted...
Is there a reason youre skipping the other two examples? The children in those two are granted citizenship upon the parent becoming a citizen.


Because they quite literally have nothing to do with a child being born within the US. If you're born in this nation, you are a US citizen. Period. If you want to change the Constitution, you need to go through the proper channels, not a shitty EO written by that douche bag Stephen Miller that won't hold up in the courts.
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NinjaBreakfast
10/30/18 11:52:29 AM
#131:


Coastal_elite posted...
You're one of those "I will use the ladder, then pull it up" kind of guys.

Lol bullseye
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MuayThai85
10/30/18 11:53:52 AM
#133:


Interesting suicide there.
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Unimpressed
10/30/18 11:54:23 AM
#134:


MuayThai85 posted...
Interesting suicide there.

It's HeyJohnHothlin. He's on the porn posting suicide track lately
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nemu
10/30/18 11:54:49 AM
#135:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Is there a reason youre skipping the other two examples? The children in those two are granted citizenship upon the parent becoming a citizen.


Because they quite literally have nothing to do with a child being born within the US. If you're born in this nation, you are a US citizen. Period. If you want to change the Constitution, you need to go through the proper channels, not a shitty EO written by that douche bag Stephen Miller that won't hold up in the courts.

I feel like you are massively confused. Were talking about they hypothetical where that is no longer the case. The entire point of that link is to show that two people here on a visa who have a kid and then get citizenship would not be affected. The only people truly affected are illegal immigrants, which doesnt really matter. I dont believe it will actually be changed, but I think changing it is a good idea.
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HylianFox
10/30/18 11:56:13 AM
#136:


IloveJesus posted...
Isn't the reason you guys all have guns so that you don't have to put up with this kind of shit?

The notion of using guns against the government only applies to white people

Could imagine if Black/Hispanics/etc tried that 2nd Amendment -hugging tactic? It'd be pure outrage from the right
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Caution999
10/30/18 11:59:26 AM
#137:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
nemu posted...
Either get citizenship legally or dont come at all.


Being born in this nation legally makes you a citizen. Period.


Translation: Im ok with the blatant loophole because we can tell these children of illegal immigranta that they are victims. Once we have established their victimhood, we can make sure theyre dependant on the government and we will do nothing to ensure these people can take care of themselves. This will ensure they will vote Democrat.

Which is exactly what any of this is about. Its about trying to get more people to vote Democrat. Being a Democrat is honestly, the easiest moral choice you can decide to be. You get to be outraged all the time, pretend to care about people, and do nothing about it and just complain about how others are victims without having to lift a finger to do anything about it.

From my experience, all Ive seen from the other side, is they dont want a huge government. They want normal people to be able to take care of themselves. They want people to flourish on their own without the need to make anyone a victim. This, imo, is the only true path we can take. Its the best path to ensure all people of every race or religion can be equal.

The Democrats are as eager as the credit card companies for you to be reliant on them. The credit card companies LOVE the people that are in debt. This ensures they can get more money out of them with the interest penalties. Its the same concept with the left. They want you to be dependant on them.
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mohomad
10/30/18 12:00:39 PM
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How interesting. I usually miss account suicides.
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Coastal_elite
10/30/18 12:00:53 PM
#139:


Lonestar2000 posted...
@Coastal_elite posted...
Why are you entertaining this bullshit?

I already explained what's the main purpose with this. Thousands of legal citizens born from legal citizens will get kicked out because they can't prove that their parents were legal citizens too.

Why do people think this will be applied retroactively?


I said nothing about retroactively.

They can simply say "we reviewed citizenship and..." to anyone born or immigrated her AFTER the rule change
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Heineken14
10/30/18 12:08:04 PM
#140:


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NinjaBreakfast
10/30/18 12:09:10 PM
#141:


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.
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nemu
10/30/18 12:12:35 PM
#142:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.

The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.
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P4wn4g3
10/30/18 12:14:02 PM
#143:


nemu posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.

The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.

That's how America has always been. It's typically called the American Dream.
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Sayoria
10/30/18 12:16:58 PM
#144:


Can his arteries hurry the fuck up and close?
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 12:22:41 PM
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nemu posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.

The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.


Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears
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NinjaBreakfast
10/30/18 12:24:08 PM
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The child being 'put through shit' ie potentially being deported to a country where he has never been to in his life and having even less rights than he did in his current home country
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scar the 1
10/30/18 12:24:18 PM
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And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable
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nemu
10/30/18 12:25:05 PM
#148:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.

The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.


Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears

What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race.
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 12:31:10 PM
#149:


nemu posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
nemu posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-campaigns-to-prevent-deportation-of-nine-year-old-pupil-1.3666695

I really struggle to think that people could legit think stuff like this makes any sense. Telling most try solely argue how 'it's the law!' rather than on the supposed merits of it.

The mother is illegal. I certainly feel bad for the child being put through that shit, but should any mother get to come to any country, have a kid, and then be granted citizenship? Because if the kid is granted citizenship but not the mother, people would be crying that the child is being ripped from his mother if he alone was able to stay. Setting a precedent based on feeling for one sob story case is a very bad idea.


Assume the mother is Dutch and then try not to drown on your tears

What? What is with people assuming racism when someone isnt a bleeding heart? Its illegal vs natural/naturalized. That has nothing to do with race.


People here on a visa are legal.
People here who are permanent residents are legal.

And if it truly were about legal vs illegal then you guys wouldnt be trying to end most ways of legal immigration
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FLUFFYGERM
10/30/18 12:32:37 PM
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remember how leftists here were recently saying how the constitution is out of date, how it can be modified for things like a gun ban, etc? and how the conservatives said that it's a bad idea, a bad precedent, etc
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MuayThai85
10/30/18 12:33:39 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
And regardless of whether birthright citizenship is good or bad, using fucking China as justification for why it's bad is really laughable


I'm using it as an example because I am currently located there. I also stated that the MAJORITY of countries don't offer birth right citizenship. In fact, a quick Google search states that Canada and thee US are the only developed countries in the world to offer birthright citizenship meaning all those ultra progressive European countries don't all it.
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