Poll of the Day > Minorities should not have more power over the majority

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Kappa02
10/29/18 7:20:22 PM
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You know why. Because they are a minority. If you live in a majority country as a guest, or are outnumbered. Too bad, being against certain bad behavior is ok. But yeah the power belongs to the larger demographics. Obey the rules or go to jail should be the motto, aswell as right to protest, rights and all that stuff. Either case. I am very apathetic when it comes to transforming a world view of certain boring dont care political views. If they dont have any serious merit, i simply dont care.
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Oops_All_Berrys
10/29/18 7:20:47 PM
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DPsx7
10/29/18 7:44:15 PM
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The very act of calling yourself a minority implies you know some things aren't going to go your way. If anyone wants to move or migrate why can't they understand it's their job to integrate with their destination, not bitch until things go their way?
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Kappa02
10/29/18 7:50:28 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
The very act of calling yourself a minority implies you know some things aren't going to go your way. If anyone wants to move or migrate why can't they understand it's their job to integrate with their destination, not bitch until things go their way?


Socialist Utopia. Either case, one should make it clear that the majority is the one who lives there and have the main influence. If they gave it a run for their money, being maybe like 40 or 50%. Then alright fair enough. But if they try to undermine the majority who live there... then yeah.. i think promoting apathy if they try that or rather just dont care about how much we should care that they should be more represented.

Yeah they are not majority, so they have free speech and open society, that doesnt mean we should care if they want to be more represented, like if they tend to absolutely love hating the majority of people. Then yeah i am totally pro free speech, but also apathy if they try to pull it
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JOExHIGASHI
10/29/18 7:54:10 PM
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Is there a specific news story or something you want to bring up to illustrate your point?
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Oops_All_Berrys
10/29/18 7:55:31 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Is there a specific news story or something you want to bring up to illustrate your point?

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GanglyKhan
10/29/18 8:12:04 PM
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But
But what if
what if all the minorities
formed together
and
and they made the majority the minority
what then
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Kappa02
10/29/18 8:15:02 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
But
But what if
what if all the minorities
formed together
and
and they made the majority the minority
what then

Then they win. And you shake their hands and say... well.. guess we lost. And thats it : 3
Edit: I mean i dont 100% believe what i am writing. Since i believe rights for everyone is a good thing as individuality. But i just hate this us vs them mentality that being a minority is somehow like a winner club and the losers are the majority who just love to oppress, as in a cartoon of good guys vs evil guys without knowing what they believe in. I dunno
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GanglyKhan
10/29/18 8:20:59 PM
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Kappa02 posted...
Since i believe rights for everyone is a good thing as individuality. But i just hate this us vs them mentality that being a minority is somehow like a winner club and the losers are the majority who just love to oppress, as in a cartoon of good guys vs evil guys without knowing what they believe in. I dunno


Okay, I'm actually jiving with what you're putting down now. I respect that point of view. I do think a lot of people get way too wrapped up in all of that and add fuel to the fire without realizing that they're doing that.
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DPsx7
10/29/18 8:29:29 PM
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Kappa02 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
The very act of calling yourself a minority implies you know some things aren't going to go your way. If anyone wants to move or migrate why can't they understand it's their job to integrate with their destination, not bitch until things go their way?


Socialist Utopia. Either case, one should make it clear that the majority is the one who lives there and have the main influence. If they gave it a run for their money, being maybe like 40 or 50%. Then alright fair enough. But if they try to undermine the majority who live there... then yeah.. i think promoting apathy if they try that or rather just dont care about how much we should care that they should be more represented.

Yeah they are not majority, so they have free speech and open society, that doesnt mean we should care if they want to be more represented, like if they tend to absolutely love hating the majority of people. Then yeah i am totally pro free speech, but also apathy if they try to pull it


See, this is the thing. I'm not trying to get political because I can't. What I see are the kinds of people who move into an area and (just as an example) immediately demand Spanish menus or signs. Oh we aren't accommodating enough? YOU came HERE. Something must have been appealing enough for you to do so, please explain why I'm the one who needs to change.

In the big picture equality is ok but you can't get it by beating everyone else down. That just makes them hate you.
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Kappa02
10/29/18 8:31:25 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
Kappa02 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
The very act of calling yourself a minority implies you know some things aren't going to go your way. If anyone wants to move or migrate why can't they understand it's their job to integrate with their destination, not bitch until things go their way?


Socialist Utopia. Either case, one should make it clear that the majority is the one who lives there and have the main influence. If they gave it a run for their money, being maybe like 40 or 50%. Then alright fair enough. But if they try to undermine the majority who live there... then yeah.. i think promoting apathy if they try that or rather just dont care about how much we should care that they should be more represented.

Yeah they are not majority, so they have free speech and open society, that doesnt mean we should care if they want to be more represented, like if they tend to absolutely love hating the majority of people. Then yeah i am totally pro free speech, but also apathy if they try to pull it


See, this is the thing. I'm not trying to get political because I can't. What I see are the kinds of people who move into an area and (just as an example) immediately demand Spanish menus or signs. Oh we aren't accommodating enough? YOU came HERE. Something must have been appealing enough for you to do so, please explain why I'm the one who needs to change.

In the big picture equality is ok but you can't get it by beating everyone else down. That just makes them hate you.

Yeah there should be requirement to intergrate into society where you move too and learn that language etc. I agree with that
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dedbus
10/29/18 9:32:13 PM
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Actually throughout all of history it's been the minority who oppresses the majority.
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green dragon
10/29/18 9:46:18 PM
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tc, when do minorities have more power of the majority? can you give examples?
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Krazy_Kirby
10/29/18 10:10:33 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
JOExHIGASHI posted...
Is there a specific news story or something you want to bring up to illustrate your point?

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DPsx7
10/29/18 10:24:28 PM
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green dragon posted...
tc, when do minorities have more power of the majority? can you give examples?


You're kidding right? All the shit tossers need to do is cry on social media and suddenly every damn company has to pretend to be all inclusive and compassionate. So someone loses a job, scholarship, award, whatever.

I mean hell, look how useless sports are. Cable companies would be geniuses to dump that trash and cut our bills in half. Oh but the poor sports fools put an ad up blaming the cable company for being bad guys, losers call in, and we're stuck with sports again. Just last night all I wanted to do was watch Simps, FG, and Bob's. Nope, they aired a bunch of guys playing with their little balls again. I hope they get diarrhea.
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green dragon
10/29/18 10:25:55 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
green dragon posted...
tc, when do minorities have more power of the majority? can you give examples?


You're kidding right? All the shit tossers need to do is cry on social media and suddenly every damn company has to pretend to be all inclusive and compassionate. So someone loses a job, scholarship, award, whatever.

I mean hell, look how useless sports are. Cable companies would be geniuses to dump that trash and cut our bills in half. Oh but the poor sports fools put an ad up blaming the cable company for being bad guys, losers call in, and we're stuck with sports again. Just last night all I wanted to do was watch Simps, FG, and Bob's. Nope, they aired a bunch of guys playing with their little balls again. I hope they get diarrhea.

what the fuck are you saying?

I can't tell if you're going on a racist tirade.

calling minorities shit tossers? saying minorities only care about sports? You crying about not being able to watch cartoons?
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GanglyKhan
10/29/18 10:29:05 PM
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Oh, wow. I mean, you had one good argument earlier, but that last post of yours is detestable, man.

More freedom to you for thinking that way, I guess, but it's not doing you any good.
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Chewster
10/29/18 10:34:46 PM
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I miss the days when internet communities didn't have a bunch of ignorant bigots couching their racism in whining about this SJW bogeyman
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BlackScythe0
10/29/18 11:34:23 PM
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So is this a thread complaining about the electoral college?
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faramir77
10/29/18 11:36:23 PM
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Mead
10/30/18 12:12:30 AM
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It isnt about giving them power, its about making sure they have equal rights and opportunities

Yknow, that freedom thing
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Kappa02
10/30/18 3:25:41 AM
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Chewster posted...
I miss the days when internet communities didn't have a bunch of ignorant bigots couching their racism in whining about this SJW bogeyman


Hate has objective roots.

Btw being a bigot is not wrong, depending if the bigotry is logical or not. RIght now you are being a bigot too, know why? Because you are belittling my ideas with yours. Everyone is a bigot more or less so that word made no sense to me.
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Nade Duck
10/30/18 3:28:47 AM
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i told ya'll that dude was crazy.
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Kyuubi4269
10/30/18 3:37:25 AM
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GanglyKhan posted...
But
But what if
what if all the minorities
formed together
and
and they made the majority the minority
what then

This is basically the argument for anti-immigration, isn't it? That people don't want to lose majority control of their homeland?

In a democratic high-trust society, you want to surround yourself with familiar faces to maintain status quo, once you import vast conflicting viewpoints then trust decreases, as does stability.
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green dragon
10/30/18 7:08:12 AM
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Kappa02 posted...
RIght now you are being a bigot too, know why? Because you are belittling my ideas with yours.

I don't think you know what bigotry is
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GasMonkey
10/30/18 7:13:07 AM
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but what if the majority all vote for something but it still doesnt happen
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Kappa02
10/30/18 7:14:55 AM
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green dragon posted...
Kappa02 posted...
RIght now you are being a bigot too, know why? Because you are belittling my ideas with yours.

I don't think you know what bigotry is

A belief that your belief is better than others. Bigotry against borders. Mention a few
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ParanoidObsessive
10/30/18 8:13:05 AM
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Mead posted...
It isnt about giving them power, its about making sure they have equal rights and opportunities

Yknow, that freedom thing

Arguably, equality and enforced opportunity is the opposite of freedom.

Freedom includes the freedom to be shitty to other people. Keeping people from being shitty to each other inherently involves curtailing freedom.

It's part of why anarchy is nice in theory but a problem in practice. The same might also be said for things like the free market. Or pure democracy.

...which is probably why we don't actually practice any of those things, no matter which buzzwords we love to use for PR purposes.


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Mead
10/30/18 8:33:50 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Mead posted...
It isnt about giving them power, its about making sure they have equal rights and opportunities

Yknow, that freedom thing

Arguably, equality and enforced opportunity is the opposite of freedom.

Freedom includes the freedom to be shitty to other people. Keeping people from being shitty to each other inherently involves curtailing freedom.

It's part of why anarchy is nice in theory but a problem in practice. The same might also be said for things like the free market. Or pure democracy.

...which is probably why we don't actually practice any of those things, no matter which buzzwords we love to use for PR purposes.



A whole lot of words to dispute something that I didnt even say in my post
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Sefrig
10/30/18 8:35:57 AM
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Mead posted...
A whole lot of words to dispute something that I didnt even say in my post

thats every po post ever
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Kappa02
10/30/18 8:37:01 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Mead posted...
It isnt about giving them power, its about making sure they have equal rights and opportunities

Yknow, that freedom thing

Arguably, equality and enforced opportunity is the opposite of freedom.

Freedom includes the freedom to be shitty to other people. Keeping people from being shitty to each other inherently involves curtailing freedom.

It's part of why anarchy is nice in theory but a problem in practice. The same might also be said for things like the free market. Or pure democracy.

...which is probably why we don't actually practice any of those things, no matter which buzzwords we love to use for PR purposes.


But thats not true though. In a police state of marxism you cannot say certain stuff.. like England. And i dont mean incitement, which is illegal for logical reasons. I just mean, bad jokes, certain political way of expression. (like they are atleast on some way of going there). For reference look up Count Dankula etc

So thats not really true, if you are pro democracy that is?
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Judgmenl
10/30/18 8:41:17 AM
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Hey look another thread where people are getting bent out of shape due to things that happen on social media, that wholly do not affect their day to day lives.

Color me surprised. It is almost as if the events in question are working as intended.

When did people forget to never feed the trolls?
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