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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/26/18 11:06:26 AM
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Which encourages you to play realistically and cross at a bridge when you can...holy shit the level of detail in this game is absurd.
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pres_madagascar
10/26/18 11:07:33 AM
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kingdrake2
10/26/18 11:11:33 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Which encourages you to play realistically and cross at a bridge when you can...holy shit the level of detail in this game is absurd.


damn water rusted me weapons again.
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Mr_MacPhisto
10/26/18 11:11:36 AM
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That sounds annoying and unnecessary.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/26/18 11:14:43 AM
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Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

Im fighting the urge to impulse buy it, but this statement seems like it might apply to everything Ive heard about the game...
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LordMarshal
10/26/18 11:14:55 AM
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Why would i want this in a game?
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s0nicfan
10/26/18 11:23:30 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

Im fighting the urge to impulse buy it, but this statement seems like it might apply to everything Ive heard about the game...


Jim Sterling did a review of the game, and he basically says that the story and gameplay is brilliant when it's trying to be a game, but it becomes tedious and annoying when it tries to be a realism simulator. Like, even hunting for pelts involves finding an animal that's in good condition, then bringing the right weapon, then hitting it in the right weak point in order to maintain the quality of the Pelt... It's a lot of excess planning for something simple like hunting and skinning.
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thelovefist
10/26/18 11:26:16 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Jim Sterling did a review of the game, and....


Stopped reading there.
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Pogo_Marimo
10/26/18 11:27:47 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

Im fighting the urge to impulse buy it, but this statement seems like it might apply to everything Ive heard about the game...


Jim Sterling did a review of the game, and he basically says that the story and gameplay is brilliant when it's trying to be a game, but it becomes tedious and annoying when it tries to be a realism simulator. Like, even hunting for pelts involves finding an animal that's in good condition, then bringing the right weapon, then hitting it in the right weak point in order to maintain the quality of the Pelt... It's a lot of excess planning for something simple like hunting and skinning.

That sounds awesome to me.
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Antifar
10/26/18 11:27:57 AM
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This is the game equivalent of Oscar bait: designed to impress critics more than actually entertain.

That doesn't mean it can't be good, but
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Jagr_68
10/26/18 11:29:04 AM
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Horse genitals, bathing, rusty weapons...

It's the title real gamers need, but not the one they deserve.
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InTheEyesOfFire
10/26/18 11:41:14 AM
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I love it. Definitely not for everyone but I love the whole planning aspect of it all.
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RebelElite791
10/26/18 11:41:44 AM
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Wtf we love weapon degradation now
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 11:43:43 AM
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Btw. Your animal also falls off and gets waterlogged in rivers
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LordMarshal
10/26/18 11:44:44 AM
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This sounds horrible. Weapon durability in botw was garbage as well.
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eston
10/26/18 11:46:29 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Like, even hunting for pelts involves finding an animal that's in good condition, then bringing the right weapon, then hitting it in the right weak point in order to maintain the quality of the Pelt... It's a lot of excess planning for something simple like hunting and skinning.

That sounds awesome to me. Hunting and skinning was so shallow in the first game, it honestly felt like a waste of time. Basically amounted to grinding for money. Now it sounds like an actual engaging activity.
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prince_leo
10/26/18 11:50:24 AM
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I'm sure it's a lot of fun, but I can't say that it appeals to me
I'll grab it on PC if and when that happens though
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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/26/18 1:03:14 PM
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prince_leo posted...
I'm sure it's a lot of fun

It is

LordMarshal posted...
This sounds horrible. Weapon durability in botw was garbage as well.

It's nothing like Botw. Botw's system was way too quick. I am like 4 hours in and haven't maintained my weapons at all yet.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/26/18 1:04:41 PM
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I guess I can understand why some people enjoy this kind of thing, but I just find it irritating.
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Irregardless
10/26/18 1:06:20 PM
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Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

Holy crap this.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 1:14:55 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
It's nothing like Botw. Botw's system was way too quick. I am like 4 hours in and haven't maintained my weapons at all yet.


It's cute you expect CE not to ignore this when thry already have their minds made up :p
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HylianFox
10/26/18 1:17:02 PM
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BOTW has weapon durability "OMG this game sucks!"

RDR2 has weapon rusting "OMG this game is the best ever!"

okay
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 1:18:16 PM
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Called it
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CoolMaskGuy
10/26/18 1:18:40 PM
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thelovefist posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Jim Sterling did a review of the game, and....


Stopped reading there.
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Irregardless
10/26/18 1:19:32 PM
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HylianFox posted...
BOTW has weapon durability "OMG this game sucks!"

RDR2 has weapon rusting "OMG this game is the best ever!"

okay

I mean I hated the durability in Breath but that didn't make me declare it the worst game ever or anything.
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HylianFox
10/26/18 1:19:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
This is the game equivalent of Oscar bait: designed to impress critics more than actually entertain.

yeah, that's the vibe I'm getting as well
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SaithSayer
10/26/18 1:21:33 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Which encourages you to play realistically and cross at a bridge when you can...holy shit the level of detail in this game is absurd.


damn water rusted me weapons again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs" data-time="&start=227
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 1:23:15 PM
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Im waiting for someone who actually played it give it a negative quick take. Yet to be seen
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pres_madagascar
10/26/18 2:22:58 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Im waiting for someone who actually played it give it a negative quick take. Yet to be seen

Bingo. It's cool to hate popular things. I saw similar comments when God of War and horizon came out.
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LostForest
10/26/18 2:34:05 PM
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Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.


This basically. Everything I hear game critics gushing about sounds awful to me.

YOU HAVE TO GET HAIRCUTS AND KEEP UP YOUR HYGIENE TO FIT IN WITH THE NPCS!
IF YOU DON'T CLEAN AND PREFORM MAINTENANCE ON YOUR GUNS THEY WILL MISFIRE IN COMBAT.

Like, fuck man. Games are supposed to be an escape. Worrying about my car and power tools breaking down and finding time to get a haircut is all stressful enough IRL, why the fuck would it be fun in a game.
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Banjo2553
10/26/18 2:37:27 PM
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There's a lot of impressive stuff in the game, but whether that constitutes as fun remains to be seen for me. So I'm not gonna make a judgment yet.
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PhazonReborn
10/26/18 2:37:31 PM
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I've heard the realism aspects of the game bog it down. I mean they make you sit through animations for looting bodies and you have to scrub each individual limb when bathing, eat, sleep. It all just sounds stupid to me.
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Hexenherz
10/26/18 2:38:52 PM
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Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

Reminds me of Far Cry 2 when your weapons degraded and got jammed and shit -_-.

I do wish this game would come out on PC though.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 2:39:02 PM
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LostForest posted...
Games are supposed


How to spot a close minded individual
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kuwab0
10/26/18 2:39:04 PM
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Rexdragon125
10/26/18 2:39:06 PM
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Does it have shotguns and do they work farther than 5 feet away?
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butthole666
10/26/18 2:39:42 PM
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Mr_MacPhisto posted...
That sounds annoying and unnecessary.

This sums up damn near everything Ive heard about this game :/
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Hexenherz
10/26/18 2:40:06 PM
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Also reminds me of when Half-Life 2 came out and I thought it would be fun to make a mod that would be realistic, like where you could stumble on things on the ground if you were running and then your glasses would fall off and you would have to find them.
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LostForest
10/26/18 4:32:23 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
LostForest posted...
Games are supposed


How to spot a close minded individual


If they're not supposed to be an escape, by their very existence as entertainment, then tell me why not.

Not starting shit either, I'm just legit curious to get your take on them since I'm an indie dev and like discussing the philosophy behind game design.
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Leanaunfurled
10/26/18 4:35:15 PM
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This honestly just made me more excited, same thing with hunting and skinning mechanics. Game is installing now.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/26/18 4:38:17 PM
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LostForest posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
LostForest posted...
Games are supposed


How to spot a close minded individual


If they're not supposed to be an escape, by their very existence as entertainment, then tell me why not.

Not starting shit either, I'm just legit curious to get your take on them since I'm an indie dev and like discussing the philosophy behind game design.


Im simply just saying you're boxing in gaming by saying what they "should" be. I think Journey is boring as fuck and had no content but I don't think it shouldn't be a game and obviously a lot of people liked it
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PhazonReborn
10/26/18 4:50:17 PM
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I went ahead and bought the game today on my lunch break despite all the whining I heard.

I guess we shall see just how "bad" it is
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s0nicfan
10/26/18 4:51:32 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
I went ahead and bought the game today on my lunch break despite all the whining I heard.

I guess we shall see just how "bad" it is


I doubt these little systems make the game bad. It's more a question of whether the novelty of it all will stick around or whether you'll be sick of having to bathe regularly and maintain your equipment just to play the game "as intended" after 20+ hours.
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NeoShadowhen
10/26/18 4:52:07 PM
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LostForest posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
LostForest posted...
Games are supposed


How to spot a close minded individual


If they're not supposed to be an escape, by their very existence as entertainment, then tell me why not.

Not starting shit either, I'm just legit curious to get your take on them since I'm an indie dev and like discussing the philosophy behind game design.


I'll take you up in this since you're clearly not trying to start shit.

I would argue that there are a lot of different kinds of escape in videogames, just as their would be in other forms of media.

For me personally, the thing I've always enjoyed about games, video games as well as tabletop games, is the story within the story. The tiny details and otherwise seemingly meaningless in the grand scheme of things, kinds of things.

In this instance, I see rolling up into a town on foot because my horse got left behind (long story), covered in mud and smelling like bear shit (even longer story) so that everyone is giving me the stink eye, while being hungry but not having any money to buy anything so I'm contemplating pulling some petty theft shit to possibly get myself back on track...

That might sound grueling and lame to some people who want to get on to the next big chase, heist or plot point, but I see it as all part of a story. It's the story I care about most. Not just the story that comes through the plot and the narrative, but the stories you make yourself, that are unique to you.

I want a day in the life of a cowboy. This seems to be the game for me.
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ledbowman
10/26/18 4:59:32 PM
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Sounds good to me.
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apocalyptic_4
10/26/18 5:07:57 PM
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I can see myself getting annoyed by this stuff quick.
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Turbam
10/26/18 5:08:50 PM
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Is this gonna be the "weapons break so the game is bad!" thing again?
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NinjaBreakfast
10/26/18 5:11:24 PM
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I feel like the reaction to this game will sour over time.

Pre release, it seemed like everybody was making all these needless additions to be these amazing gameplay boosters when somebody more fair minded could see...they weren't. Purely from hype.

The Oscar bait comment seems accurate.
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ledbowman
10/26/18 5:14:08 PM
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This isn't weapons just breaking. It's consequential.
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Darksaber310
10/26/18 5:34:16 PM
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I mean, in BOTW you could literally break a weapon that the enemy you're fighting drops during the fight. Sure there's tons of them lying around, but the system was downright moronic.

Being asked to maintain and upkeep weapons and being told that each of those weapons is worth 8-15 minutes of gameplay give/take are totally the same.

This game looks ridiculous. Incredible. I can't wait to play it on PC. But I'm not gonna attribute fault because I'm disappointed in it's release choices.
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