Poll of the Day > Did you like Solo more or the last jedi?

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DoubleOSnake
10/21/18 12:19:01 PM
#1:


between only these 2 widely panned star wars movies - Results (8 votes)
i liked solo more
50% (4 votes)
4
the last jedi
50% (4 votes)
4
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kind9
10/21/18 12:36:02 PM
#2:


I didn't see Solo, but I actually liked TLJ. The dumb asian girl was probably the worst thing about the movie.
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DoubleOSnake
10/21/18 12:43:08 PM
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why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported
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ReggieTheReckless
10/21/18 12:49:09 PM
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Where's the option for neither were that good and I would have preferred to spend the money on the movie ticket on a sandwich somewhere
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Krazy_Kirby
10/21/18 12:49:57 PM
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didnt see either
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Sefrig
10/21/18 12:57:19 PM
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tlj was a good movie that i think will be looked back on with more appreciation in the future and certainly is a worthy part of the series

solo was fine but uninspired and didn't really need to exist
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Zeus
10/21/18 1:37:47 PM
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Haven't seen Solo, but other than the nonsense with Rose I liked TLJ.
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AllstarSniper32
10/21/18 2:52:56 PM
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Liked both movies, but liked tlj more. Mostly because Han isn't a top character for me.
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IronicFool
10/21/18 3:00:42 PM
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Zeus posted...
Haven't seen Solo, but other than the nonsense with Rose I liked TLJ.

Other than the Rose/Finn B plot and most of the shit that came with it, I liked it too. Although I get most of the criticism as well. Like, why would the new acting rebellion leader not tell anyone her plan? It seems like a fuck you to the audience, just to keep them out of the loop, and the plan started to fail anyway. You could've explained the plan an hour earlier and the payoff would've been the exact same.
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DirtBasedSoap
10/21/18 3:15:25 PM
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Havent seen Solo but TLJ was trash. Ruined the OT characters. I dont know what the fuck the point of bringing them back was if theyre just gonna make them shitty and depressing. And the movie barely made sense with most of it being a slow chase through space with the most awful tacticians ever in charge.
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DirtBasedSoap
10/21/18 3:16:51 PM
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TLJ was a movie made by dumbfucks, for dumbfucks. Thats the bottom line.
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dedbus
10/21/18 3:18:13 PM
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In Solo 2, Darth Mauls sinister arc is reveal--he's killed meaninglessly, maybe off screen. Chewbacca, the peanut butter to Hans jelly, goes on a separate quest to do some stuff, for reasons, I guess. Space ravager lady comes back, the baddest pirate person in the galaxy thus far, ahh this kind of sucks think I'll die meaninglessly, but I'll hint at badassery but not really deliver. Khaleesi comes back! I betrayed you Han, if only I told you that really I was going to double cross Darth Maul, oh wait he died or something. Shit how are we gonna end this? Fuck it cliffhanger in---oh wait we didn't really build on any subplots or overarching story. Well let the next guy handle it, fuck them. The End.

Wait thats TLJ...And partly Phantom Menace.
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Gaawa_chan
10/21/18 3:36:25 PM
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TLJ is an absolute travesty. At least Solo had some parts that were so bad that they made me laugh (the robots rights robot thing felt like poorly done parody). TLJ was just bad, period.
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Blighboy
10/21/18 3:37:40 PM
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I liked The Last Jedi more but disliked its effect on the Star Wars canon.

Solo could establish that Han had been a transsexual black clown before becoming a smuggler and it wouldn't really bother me.
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AllstarSniper32
10/21/18 3:46:53 PM
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IronicFool posted...
Like, why would the new acting rebellion leader not tell anyone her plan?

Because commanding officers don't tell people the plan. That's what being in a "military" type operation means. When your commanding officer tells you to do something, you do it. If it wasn't supposed to be that way, they wouldn't even have a leader.

When General Organa gives you an order, you follow it. When someone else is the General and they give you an order, you follow it.
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IronicFool
10/21/18 3:51:50 PM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
Because commanding officers don't tell people the plan. That's what being in a "military" type operation means. When your commanding officer tells you to do something, you do it. If it wasn't supposed to be that way, they wouldn't even have a leader.

When General Organa gives you an order, you follow it. When someone else is the General and they give you an order, you follow it.

Oh cool. So when Nazis were just following orders, I guess that was all cool with you? "Yeah, burn these Jews, don't question the plan"?

It's still dumb storytelling because the REASON given for not sharing the plan boiled down to "I don't trust you to know the plan, now follow the plan."
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XlaxJynx007
10/21/18 3:54:14 PM
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I liked Solo better
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AllstarSniper32
10/21/18 3:58:24 PM
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IronicFool posted...
Oh cool. So when Nazis were just following orders, I guess that was all cool with you? "Yeah, burn these Jews, don't question the plan"?

Nazis have nothing to do with it so it's stupid to bring them up and then try to say someone is "cool with it".

But that is how military works, you get orders and follow them. You don't ask why or what the big plan is. I'm not "cool with it", that's just how it is.

IronicFool posted...
It's still dumb storytelling because the REASON given for not sharing the plan boiled down to "I don't trust you to know the plan, now follow the plan."

No, that's not what it boiled down to. What it actually was is this, "I'm the commanding officer, follow my orders."

Go ask someone in the military how often they can question orders given to them.
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IronicFool
10/21/18 4:03:45 PM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
Nazis have nothing to do with it so it's stupid to bring them up and then try to say someone is "cool with it".

But that is how military works, you get orders and follow them. You don't ask why or what the big plan is. I'm not "cool with it", that's just how it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

AllstarSniper32 posted...
No, that's not what it boiled down to. What it actually was is this, "I'm the commanding officer, follow my orders."

Go ask someone in the military how often they can question orders given to them.


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IronicFool
10/21/18 4:04:40 PM
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IronicFool posted...
AllstarSniper32 posted...
Nazis have nothing to do with it so it's stupid to bring them up and then try to say someone is "cool with it".

But that is how military works, you get orders and follow them. You don't ask why or what the big plan is. I'm not "cool with it", that's just how it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

AllstarSniper32 posted...
No, that's not what it boiled down to. What it actually was is this, "I'm the commanding officer, follow my orders."

Go ask someone in the military how often they can question orders given to them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

Well, that plus the movie itself, where one of the characters literally questioned the orders.
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Blighboy
10/21/18 4:11:01 PM
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Remember how the original Star Wars trilogy glorified mindless conformance to large scale military organizations and demonized individuality and being a good person.
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IronicFool
10/21/18 4:16:12 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Remember how the original Star Wars trilogy glorified mindless conformance to large scale military organizations and demonized individuality and being a good person.

I do not.
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wolfy42
10/21/18 5:02:21 PM
#23:


Liked em both but gave the edge to Solo actually.

Looking forward to a sequel of that movie more then the next main episode...which is what decided me.
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AllstarSniper32
10/21/18 5:06:21 PM
#24:


wolfy42 posted...
Looking forward to a sequel of that movie more then the next main episode...which is what decided me.

Sadly, because of people stupidly complaining about the movie, that probably won't happen for a loong time.
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IronicFool
10/21/18 5:11:13 PM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
Sadly, because of people stupidly complaining about the movie, that probably won't happen for a loong time.


Really?
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DirtBasedSoap
10/21/18 5:16:06 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Remember how the original Star Wars trilogy glorified mindless conformance to large scale military organizations and demonized individuality and being a good person.

No, I actually dont remember that.
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Metalsonic66
10/21/18 6:09:12 PM
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I liked the Last Jedi and Solo was only "okay"
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Zeus
10/22/18 2:31:07 AM
#28:


IronicFool posted...
Like, why would the new acting rebellion leader not tell anyone her plan?


Because loose lips sink ships, for starters. Which, you know, is literally why the plan finally failed -- she told somebody and it got back to the FO

IronicFool posted...
Oh cool. So when Nazis were just following orders, I guess that was all cool with you? "Yeah, burn these Jews, don't question the plan"?


...wtf, dude?

AllstarSniper32 posted...
wolfy42 posted...
Looking forward to a sequel of that movie more then the next main episode...which is what decided me.

Sadly, because of people stupidly complaining about the movie, that probably won't happen for a loong time.


The issue wasn't complaints, it was the fact that it underperformed at the box office. People bitch about the Bayformers movies but they keep going because they make multiple times their budget. The rule of thumb is that a film needs to make double its production budget to be profitable, which Solo didn't do.
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MICHALECOLE
10/22/18 2:31:56 AM
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Loved both, but tlj is probably the third best Star Wars film, so that one
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Troll_Police_
10/22/18 3:08:15 AM
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the last jedi was a dumpster fire and im not planning to see solo
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Zeus
10/22/18 5:04:47 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Loved both, but tlj is probably the third best Star Wars film, so that one


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Metalsonic66
10/22/18 12:13:05 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
TLJ is probably the third best Star Wars film, so that one

I agree
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Lokarin
10/22/18 12:26:56 PM
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I only saw TLJ, which while being terrible Star Wars, I found to be an ok to ok- rated movie outside of that
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solid_kush
10/22/18 1:01:41 PM
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The last Jedi was dumb.
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IronicFool
10/22/18 1:48:18 PM
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Zeus posted...
Because loose lips sink ships, for starters. Which, you know, is literally why the plan finally failed -- she told somebody and it got back to the FO

Which would be fine if that was her logic in not telling people. But, as you said, she told other people, just not characters that the audience could watch. Either you should have solid reasoning or you should explain things to the audience, this movie failed on both counts.

Zeus posted...
...wtf, dude?

Do I really need to explain the Nuremburg trial implications to everyone here?
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b_hamnite
10/22/18 7:52:30 PM
#36:


Solo. I mean, neither were really good, definitely not Star Wars good, but TLJ was just awful. Solo at least was a kinda fun ride at times. I have zero hope for the next installment.
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plasmabeam
10/22/18 8:03:31 PM
#37:


Solo.

Aside from the Rey/Kylo/Luke parts, TLJ was trash.
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Metalsonic66
10/22/18 8:04:01 PM
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Godwin's Law at work here.
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Mead
10/22/18 8:37:11 PM
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@IronicFool
Do I really need to explain the Nuremburg trial implications to everyone here?


Yeah
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Firewood18
10/24/18 11:21:20 AM
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I watched Solo for the first time last night. When it started with the lame ass jokes like TLJ I was nonplussed but the action and the storyline stayed cohesive and ended up being the more entertaining movie overall.
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kind9
10/24/18 11:30:41 AM
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DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Oh, you actually reported me. I honestly don't see why mentioning her race was offensive. It was my way of identifying the character as I don't remember their names. I'm not going to shy away from mentioning a person's race if it's an easy way to identify them.
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DoubleOSnake
10/24/18 11:33:16 AM
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yeah so what?
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kangolcone
10/24/18 11:34:34 AM
#43:


ReggieTheReckless posted...
Where's the option for neither were that good and I would have preferred to spend the money on the movie ticket on a sandwich somewhere


Not listed because he is specifically seeking an answer between the two and isnt interested in your option?
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kangolcone
10/24/18 11:35:14 AM
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kind9 posted...
DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Oh, you actually reported me. I honestly don't see why mentioning her race was offensive. It was my way of identifying the character as I don't remember their names. I'm not going to shy away from mentioning a person's race if it's an easy way to identify them.


Or, just spend 3 seconds to open a google tab.
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kind9
10/24/18 11:36:20 AM
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kangolcone posted...
kind9 posted...
DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Oh, you actually reported me. I honestly don't see why mentioning her race was offensive. It was my way of identifying the character as I don't remember their names. I'm not going to shy away from mentioning a person's race if it's an easy way to identify them.


Or, just spend 3 seconds to open a google tab.

Or just say "asian girl" since it makes no difference.
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Solid Sonic
10/24/18 11:37:28 AM
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DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Triggered? What happened?
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kangolcone
10/24/18 12:05:27 PM
#47:


b_hamnite posted...
Solo. I mean, neither were really good, definitely not Star Wars good, but TLJ was just awful. Solo at least was a kinda fun ride at times. I have zero hope for the next installment.


Define Star Wars good

Prequels are generally considered bad.
Episode IV and V are classic and well regarded.
Ep VI is ok, but has its problems.
Ep Vii is good but is a rehash of New Hope.
Rogue 1 was largely garbage.

Seems to me that Star Wars good is pretty mediocre.
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kangolcone
10/24/18 12:06:15 PM
#48:


kind9 posted...
kangolcone posted...
kind9 posted...
DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Oh, you actually reported me. I honestly don't see why mentioning her race was offensive. It was my way of identifying the character as I don't remember their names. I'm not going to shy away from mentioning a person's race if it's an easy way to identify them.


Or, just spend 3 seconds to open a google tab.

Or just say "asian girl" since it makes no difference.


Then dont be surprised when you get modded and deleted.
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kind9
10/24/18 12:26:44 PM
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kangolcone posted...
kind9 posted...
kangolcone posted...
kind9 posted...
DoubleOSnake posted...
why'd you have to bring her race into it? reported

Oh, you actually reported me. I honestly don't see why mentioning her race was offensive. It was my way of identifying the character as I don't remember their names. I'm not going to shy away from mentioning a person's race if it's an easy way to identify them.


Or, just spend 3 seconds to open a google tab.

Or just say "asian girl" since it makes no difference.


Then dont be surprised when you get modded and deleted.

I don't blame the mods, it's not their job to psychoanalyze people, but TC couldn't even learn me why it was offensive, so whatever.
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ernieforss
10/24/18 3:55:18 PM
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I guess I did like solo more. i just didn't like flyn story in last jedi. But both were alright movies.
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