Poll of the Day > Lol, Elizabeth Warren

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The results of her DNA test are in and she's proudly announced that she's somewhere between 1/64 to 1/1024 Native American.

Which is basically nothing.

Oh, and by Native American she mean Mexican, Peruvian or Columbian.

So it's time for Trump to pay up!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warren-dna-test-3-percent-native-ancestry/
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Yes lol at her for giving in to a racist demand from our wet brained president, just like Obama and the birth certificate because we all saw how that shut ol Donny up.

CaptainHammer posted...

Yes lol at her for giving in to a racist demand from our wet brained president, just like Obama and the birth certificate because we all saw how that shut ol Donny up.

Except this time he was right.
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CaptainHammer posted...

Yes lol at her for giving in to a racist demand from our wet brained president, just like Obama and the birth certificate because we all saw how that shut ol Donny up.

I mean I agree kinda, but she did come out while running for her seat saying she was Native.

I'd need at least 20% to consider someone to be a something.
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LOL Pocahontas still butthurt about being caught in a lie....."evidence she might" be of Native decent from like 1000 years ago. Yeah she got us there.So everyone can start putting minority then when they apply for jobs, scholarships etc is what Liberals are trying to say here by defending this as some sort of proof?

Thanks Pocahontas!
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Oh, and by Native American she mean Mexican, Peruvian or Columbian.

So Native American?
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Well if its on the higher end(i guess) of the range she has as much native american in her as some actual native chiefs in modern day. The lower end seems like a trace amount a lot of people have.

So eh, i dont know

It could actually be just 1/32 according to the report which is just 4 generations back. Extremely shocked that breitfart would lie about a story to support a caustic narrative.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/10/15/warren-addresses-native-american-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
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Warren is probably full of shit but it's not like Trump has a leg to stand on when it comes to lying.
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argonautweakend posted...

Well if its on the higher end(i guess) of the range she has as much native american in her as some actual native chiefs in modern day. The lower end seems like a trace amount a lot of people have.

So eh, i dont know

I don't know much about the DNA makeup of modern Indian Chiefs, but 1/32 Indian DNA is far below the criteria to join any tribe.
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Blighboy posted...

Warren is probably full of shit but it's not like Trump has a leg to stand on when it comes to lying.

In the end what does it even matter. We should be looking at policies and voting records. This is schoolyard bullshit.
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On another note, what is the typical percentage to claim a piece of the pie from the various tribes? Former co-worker of mine said his grandmother was part Native American and he took a DNA test to see if he has enough to make a claim. I've read said tribes are fairly strict on who they share with and it also requires showing additional proof linking you with said tribes.
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And now the buffoon is flat out denying saying the thing that we have footage of him saying. Tells reporters to check it again

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411414-trump-denies-offering-1-million-for-warren-dna-test-even-though-he
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I just have no clue why she'd even bother with this. It's not a good look for her.
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Blighboy posted...

I just have no clue why she'd even bother with this. It's not a good look for her.

Probably to get $1 million dollars donated towards a charity that could use it, the bitch
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Mead posted...

Blighboy posted...

I just have no clue why she'd even bother with this. It's not a good look for her.

Probably to get $1 million dollars donated towards a charity that could use it, the bitch

Wow maybe she should ask GRR Martin to release the next two ASoIaF books two.

Nobody believed he would do that and nobody will care that he didn't.
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Guys.. this is just..

Lol!!!

That's like my wife's having 0.2% South Asian (which in people who are otherwise all European tends to mean gypsy blood - so we keep making jokes).

23andMe's test seems less "estimated" than Ancestry's. I have small amounts of Scandinavian and Ukrainian on theirs but on Ancestry they aren't present. Does this mean I should dress up like a viking or a cossack?!

(I have 7 things - 3 specific, 4 general - on 23andMe but only 3 things total on Ancestry)
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He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.
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Jen0125 posted...

He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

Valid.
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all the people who are saying that 1/64 is nothing or whatever clearly don't have family from oklahoma. it's a really common story and the history of what ancestors were NA/what tribe is hard to track
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ninja_lootz posted...

argonautweakend posted...

Well if its on the higher end(i guess) of the range she has as much native american in her as some actual native chiefs in modern day. The lower end seems like a trace amount a lot of people have.

So eh, i dont know

I don't know much about the DNA makeup of modern Indian Chiefs, but 1/32 Indian DNA is far below the criteria to join any tribe.

horse shit. most native americans are mixed race. for cherokee (the one I know the most about) you need an ancestor from around ~1900 listed as at least 1/4 which would usually put you at 1/128 or 1/64
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Jen0125 posted...

He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

She also listed herself as native american in a law school directory. That's a totally reasonable thing to do even with an ancestor 5 generations back like what she believed at the time. it'd seem kind of odd/maybe misleading to me with an ancestor 10 generations back, but that's the minimum of what the ancestry test claims
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InfestedAdam posted...

On another note, what is the typical percentage to claim a piece of the pie from the various tribes? Former co-worker of mine said his grandmother was part Native American and he took a DNA test to see if he has enough to make a claim. I've read said tribes are fairly strict on who they share with and it also requires showing additional proof linking you with said tribes.

what tribe? im not aware of any that accept DNA test actually but I would be interested to learn
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ninja_lootz posted...

The results of her DNA test are in and she's proudly announced that she's somewhere between 1/64 to 1/1024 Native American.

Which is basically nothing.

Except that would imply an ancestor as recent as a great grandparent was Native American. Which, yes, means she's of Native American descent.

In other words, she just proved her claim 100% correct.
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Apparently the current "chief" of the Cherokee nation is like, 1/32. Anywho all she said was stories she'd heard from family said there was native American far back in their lineage. This is right in line with everything she said before.

DeathMagnetic80 posted...

Apparently the current "chief" of the Cherokee nation is like, 1/32.

also the first one in like 20 years who isn't a fucking grifter
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OniRonin posted...

Jen0125 posted...

He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

She also listed herself as native american in a law school directory. That's a totally reasonable thing to do even with an ancestor 5 generations back like what she believed at the time. it'd seem kind of odd/maybe misleading to me with an ancestor 10 generations back, but that's the minimum of what the ancestry test claims

Who cares if she did that? It's a directory. It's got no meaning whatsoever. She may have done that because she has resources due to her one ancestor. It's apparent the ancestor is important enough to her family that her parents were forbade to marry due to it and had to elope.
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People have already basically said this, but those numbers basically mean she has an ancestor from within the last 100 years or so.

I mean seriously her relative could still be alive if she was 1/32nd, easily, and possibly if she was 1/64th.

Considering the fact she didn't just bring out her relative and say SEE, it means she was basing her ancestry on someone that was no longer alive, and would automatically mean it was probably going to be less then 1/64th anyway.

Next gen after that is 1/128 then 1/256, 1/512 and finally 1/1024

Now, I highly doubt she comes from a family that generally had kids by 13 (but th ey certainly exist...I had a friend who's sister had a kid at 13, her mother had her at 13, and her grandmother had her mother at 13....so her grandmother was a great grandmother before she was 40)....that is another story though.

Point is that it's quite possible 9 generations back isn't actually that far (145 years or so). Which would be the max according to her DNA testing. If nothing else her Grandmother would have probably been alive at the same time as her ancestor with at least 1/2 NA blood.
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Jen0125 posted...

OniRonin posted...

Jen0125 posted...

He wasn't right. She has a Native American ancestor which is literally all she ever claimed.

She's never claimed to be any specific percentage Native American. She's not the one who's made a huge to-do about her having a Native American ancestor. That's all been the Republicans.

She also listed herself as native american in a law school directory. That's a totally reasonable thing to do even with an ancestor 5 generations back like what she believed at the time. it'd seem kind of odd/maybe misleading to me with an ancestor 10 generations back, but that's the minimum of what the ancestry test claims

Who cares if she did that? It's a directory. It's got no meaning whatsoever.

identifying as a minority group in that context can make it easier to get a job. just listing yourself as black when you don't identify as black for example, would seem dishonest to me. I don't think e-war was doing that to be clear
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darkknight109 posted...

ninja_lootz posted...

The results of her DNA test are in and she's proudly announced that she's somewhere between 1/64 to 1/1024 Native American.

Which is basically nothing.

Except that would imply an ancestor as recent as a great grandparent was Native American. Which, yes, means she's of Native American descent.

In other words, she just proved her claim 100% correct.

Um, no. It would be her great great great grandparent.

That's best case scenario.
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wolfy42 posted...

Considering the fact she didn't just bring out her relative and say SEE, it means she was basing her ancestry on someone that was no longer alive, and would automatically mean it was probably going to be less then 1/64th anyway.

yeah, she was basing it on her family's oral history whcih said the ancestor was 5 generations back. pretty close to the 6-10 generations that the ancestry report lists. i don't understand what the conservative meme dues think happened here. like do they think elizabeth warren made it up and just happened to get lucky, or tyhat her family actually had oral history that went back 10 generations and she shortened it, or what
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DeathMagnetic80 posted...

Apparently the current "chief" of the Cherokee nation is like, 1/32. Anywho all she said was stories she'd heard from family said there was native American far back in their lineage. This is right in line with everything she said before.

Lock her up!
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The fact of the matter is that she's never claimed to be 100% NA. The people who have made the biggest deal out of her saying she has a NA ancestor have been her opponents. Now she's shown she DOES have a NA ancestor but it's not good enough because she doesn't pass the "percentage test" which she was never trying to do in the first place. It's just such a ridiculous situation.
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Jen0125 posted...

The fact of the matter is that she's never claimed to be 100% NA. The people who have made the biggest deal out of her saying she has a NA ancestor have been her opponents. Now she's shown she DOES have a NA ancestor but it's not good enough because she doesn't pass the "percentage test" which she was never trying to do in the first place. It's just such a ridiculous situation.

Worst of all is how politics on either wing will treat any small thing like such an "Ah-hah!" moment that being privy to details just results in being ignored or bashed. So the Right will treat this as Warren being a substantial liar, and their usual voters will eat it up without question, and call Trump a hero for it. It's disgusting, really.
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Trump is a conman. Even though there is video footage of him saying something he will deny it.

"I shouldn't tell you because I like to not give away secrets," Trump said. "But let's say I'm debating Pocahontas. I promise you I'll do this: I will take, you know those little kits they sell on television... learn your heritage!"

"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Trump is a liar. She did exactly what he said. And he'll still deny it.

The crazy part is that his lies work. Evidence doesn't matter anymore. America is fucked up.

To be clear this whole racist Pocahontas thing was a part of the GOP strategy to start tearing down a potential challenger in the next Presidential election. The same as they did with Clinton.

Expect a hell of a lot more mud slinging to come at Warren now that she's standing up for herself. Lots of new accounts on social media saying they're a true lefty and can't support Warren or some such bullshit.
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Any white person claiming to be part something is just doing it to make themselves look less white. Guess what, people judge you by the way you look. If you look white, people gonna treat you like you're white.
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Zareth posted...

Any white person claiming to be part something is just doing it to make themselves look less white. Guess what, people judge you by the way you look. If you look white, people gonna treat you like you're white.

So should lighter skinned hispanics, cubans, peruvians, and middle eastern people all be treated white? Cause many of them are pretty much indistinguishable from caucasians

Maybe we should just treat people based on their character and not their skin color
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Jen0125 posted...

The fact of the matter is that she's never claimed to be 100% NA. The people who have made the biggest deal out of her saying she has a NA ancestor have been her opponents. Now she's shown she DOES have a NA ancestor but it's not good enough because she doesn't pass the "percentage test" which she was never trying to do in the first place. It's just such a ridiculous situation.

I live in MA she had ads playing all the time about her native background, and sure she didn't say she was 100% anything, but the implication was obvious and she pushed the angle hard.

That being said I don't pay attention to politics on a level where I knew anything else about her.

I'm 1/16 native (my great-great grandmother was Ojibwa/Cree), and I very rarely even mention it. If you can't directly trace it back to your native ancestor, it's silly to even call yourself part native.
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I know I have absolutely no Native blood...because all my ancestors moved here in the last 100 years.

But honestly if you have any native blood, it mainly means you quite likely also have blood from the people that actually wiped them out.....so yeah......not something to really be proud about.
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It's being spun as some great win, but... yeah, that's weak. Still, I guess good for her?

Mead posted...

Oh, and by Native American she mean Mexican, Peruvian or Columbian.

So Native American?

Native Americas-n >_>

Mead posted...

In the end what does it even matter. We should be looking at policies and voting records. This is schoolyard bullshit.

To be fair, it means something to her. Well, assuming that she's not just doing this to raise her political profile for her inevitable presidential bid.

Blighboy posted...

I just have no clue why she'd even bother with this. It's not a good look for her.

Either because it really bothered her or to score petty political points. And, of course, her supporters will certainly eat it up. A strong base of support certainly helps.

ASlaveObeys posted...

I live in MA she had ads playing all the time about her native background, and sure she didn't say she was 100% anything, but the implication was obvious and she pushed the angle hard.

tbh, if the percentage is really that low, a person has no basis for broadcasting that ancestry.
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Ultimately, the GOP doesn't have a positive position in terms of a popular message the masses wantbto hear so they have to resort to mudslinging.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Ultimately, the GOP doesn't have a positive position in terms of a popular message the masses wantbto hear so they have to resort to mudslinging.

Both sides mudsling incessantly. And both sides have their own version of a positive message. The GOP talks about things like jobs and the economy (which pretty much everybody cares about), Dems talk about equality and helping the needy.
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Zeus posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Ultimately, the GOP doesn't have a positive position in terms of a popular message the masses wantbto hear so they have to resort to mudslinging.

Both sides mudsling incessantly. And both sides have their own version of a positive message. The GOP talks about things like jobs and the economy (which pretty much everybody cares about), Dems talk about equality and helping the needy.

I hate both parties, but some of the Dems are actually trying to improve things. The GOP seemingly lacks their own equivalent. They're essentially strip mining.

The whole system needs to be rebooted. It's a joke and so is anybody that believes in it.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I hate both parties, but some of the Dems are actually trying to improve things. The GOP seemingly lacks any their own equivalent.

Which is a completely ludicrous belief. You certainly have many idealistic politicians on both sides who are doing what they feel is best for the nation, even if you disagree with those beliefs. And, broadly speaking, a rising tide lifts all boats so economic improvement eventually benefits everybody (well, except occasionally where housing is concerned since a quickly developing area sees home prices skyrocket)
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Reminds me of a certain video with a relevant message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibAMSDxV7dQ" data-time="
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Mead posted...

So should lighter skinned hispanics, cubans, peruvians, and middle eastern people all be treated white?

If they look white. Because racism is based on what race you look like, not your actual heritage.
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Zareth posted...

Mead posted...

So should lighter skinned hispanics, cubans, peruvians, and middle eastern people all be treated white?

If they look white. Because racism is based on what race you look like, not your actual heritage.

@colinkaepernick