Poll of the Day > YR: Disney announces a new console with KOTOR 3 as an exclusive.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Plus retro style games based on the prequels and sequels.

"Meh."
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Don't care. Also who are the devs behind KOTOR 3?
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

Also who are the devs behind KOTOR 3?

Considering who holds the SW license right now, I'd expect EA. They'd likely be behind every SW game, which seems to be the main appeal of this system. That's even less reason to be interested.
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adjl posted...

"Meh."

I won't buy it. Kotor battle system was pretty week. I rather take Gog's Witcher gameplay.

I will still want to play Kotor but it's not worth buying a whole system. I can wait until pirates and emulators or when the game and system fails.
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KotOR isn't even canon anymore.
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I would react with confusion
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Blighboy posted...

KotOR isn't even canon anymore.

Touche. With the events of the MMO, I do wonder how the story will play out. Though I wouldn't mind a prequel KotOR taking placing during the Mandelorian War before Revan fell to the Dark Side and before the events of Malachor V with Surik.
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Blighboy posted...

KotOR isn't even canon anymore.

It was never canon in the first place, regardless of what some people thought.

But SW:TOR completely shat on the entirety of its continuity anyway, so even if it was canon, it's pretty much savaged beyond salvaging at this point regardless.


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ernieforss posted...

I won't buy it. Kotor battle system was pretty week. I rather take Gog's Witcher gameplay.

I will still want to play Kotor but it's not worth buying a whole system. I can wait until pirates and emulators or when the game and system fails.

if you only spent a week playing the game then i guess you didnt spend enough time playing
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Will never buy another console so if not pc oh well lol.

Nothing against console peeps though

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Blighboy posted...

KotOR isn't even canon anymore.

It was never canon in the first place, regardless of what some people thought.

It had Lucasfilm approval, which is all canon functionally ever meant to Star Wars (as flimsy an approval as that was and subject entirely to George's whims). It doesn't have that anymore.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Disney remake or reimagine KotOR, as their story group has already borrowed some concepts heavily from the old EU. I very much doubt a true sequel will ever exist though, given KotOR's age and lack of direct relevance to anything other than a dying (dead?) mmo.
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Blighboy posted...

It had Lucasfilm approval, which is all canon functionally ever meant to Star Wars (as flimsy an approval as that was and subject entirely to George's whims). It doesn't have that anymore.

Yeah, but Lucasfilm's canon system was basically a 10lb sack of horseshit, which basically existed so they could lie about things being canon which weren't actually canon in any realistic way, because they assumed no one would buy the shitty EU books if they weren't "real" in-universe.

They basically had to have tiers, which boiled down to "This is from the movies, which is pretty much the only thing Lucas considers canon, because he doesn't give a shit about any other media", "This is from one of the books or comics, and is about as canon as it can be because it doesn't explicitly contradict anything Lucas has written, at least until he decides he doesn't like it and shits on it in a movie script", "This is from a video game, which, let's be honest, is mostly shit made up by people who don't actively give a fuck, but which we'll pretend is at least semi-canon unless something else contradicts it", and finally the few rare things where they actually admitted in advance "Yeah, okay, this isn't canon."

KotOR was basically in that bubble of continuity which was basically "This is about as non-canon as it gets without us being willing to admit that it's non-canon." It was mostly cobbled together out of leftover garbage ideas and character names from the Dark Horse comics, and most of what actually WAS "canon" in it was just references to other works. It was never "canon" in the sense that anyone at Lucasfilm was ever going to put their dick on the line and say "Yes, this is the canonical history of the Star Wars universe as approved by Lucas himself." It was barely even acknowledge as having legitimacy in the EU books, which mostly ignored it right up until they decided that they wanted tie-in novels to help sell SW:TOR.

Anyone sane and rational pretty much understood right from the beginning that KotOR was basically a "Wouldn't this be neat?" sort of story, and nothing official or endorsed. Which was fine, considering its plot was better than nearly anything official or endorsed that was actually being released at the time.

But then they went and completely fucked it all up anyway, so it's not as if it was a tragic loss once they (rightfully) jettisoned the entire EU as a whole.

The real problem was that Disney basically shitcanned the EU and burned the whole thing to the ground so they could build a new, better canon to replace it, and they managed to completely fuck everything up just as badly in a fraction of the time, so it was pretty much a zero-sum transaction.


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I think the MCU isn't really any better than the old Star Wars EU as far as canon levels go. I believe it's just a matter of time before we get a "real" Daredevil or Punisher in the MCU films. I don't really think it's an actual problem to have supplementary stories, like KotOR or the Marvel Netflix films, that the people in charge don't care about.

If anything I'm more skeptical about the new Star Wars canon, because not only are they assuring us that they actually do care about all the material, but they've even incorporated some aspects into the films (though only Rogue One and Solo so far) which is madness.

I don't see it working out really because there's a finite amount of in universe time and events between Episode 1 and Episode 9, and Disney is going to jettison stuff eventually so they can make more films and cartoons. Which is just going to lead to more of a clusterfuck, especially because it's incredibly obvious there's no one at the steering wheel of the Star Wars mythos at the moment.
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