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toyota
10/07/18 10:00:21 PM
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It has rape scenes and its being accused of promoting rape culture

I dont get why since the goblins committing rape are the bad guys and rape is being shown to be an evil act.

Why is the presence of rape considered to be promoting rape culture?
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Nidhoggr
10/07/18 10:05:37 PM
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Goblin Slayer got an anime? I'm caught up on the manga and I can assure you that this anime will trigger the liberals like no other.
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toyota
10/08/18 2:14:23 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
Goblin Slayer got an anime? I'm caught up on the manga and I can assure you that this anime will trigger the liberals like no other.

how frequent are these things? I remembered reading a bunch of chapters of the manga a while ago but only recalled rape stuff in the 1st or 2nd chapter
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ThyCorndog
10/08/18 2:16:07 AM
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a lot of shows depict rape tho. dunno what this weeb show is but I don't see why itd be special. are you sure it isnt like 5 nerds on twitter complaining?
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MJOLNRVII
10/08/18 2:16:30 AM
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The manga focuses more on the rape than the VN/LN does, and like you said it's not as common or explicit as it was earlier. Not sure how it promotes rape culture when it's an anime about a dude who wants nothing other than Goblin Genocide.
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legendarylemur
10/08/18 2:18:37 AM
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I mean, it's more bestiality than anything, and it's ultimately just fiction. In nature, plenty of living beings use other beings parasitically to propagate and else as a natural instinct. Here we just see goblins use human women as a means to not go extinct, because there is no such thing as a female goblin in that world.

If one takes this as to mean rape is ok... then that person is probably an idiot who would've resorted to that behavior with or without shows like this.

Also the rape and stuff pretty much ends from this point on. You think Goblin Slayer is gonna let anybody else get raped while he's around? The rest of the series is him enacting absolute massacre on every goblin he sees. The rapes etc were more or less cannon fodder, as sad as it sounds.
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LimboTraveller
10/08/18 2:19:17 AM
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is there any nudity in the new anime?
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Kineth
10/08/18 2:19:47 AM
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Being accused of promoting rape culture by who?
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SuperShake666
10/08/18 2:19:51 AM
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Nobody tell them about Berserk then.

Griffith did nothing wrong!
*Flees topic*
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toyota
10/08/18 2:20:04 AM
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really? I thought goblins were like a metaphor for illegal aliens or something. You know since all they do is just get into peoples towns and fuck shit up
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pegusus123456
10/08/18 2:20:33 AM
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Sure, this is terrible, but no one cares about Priapus where Zeus sends down the god Priapus to turn all the men gay so mankind will go extinct.
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SuperShake666
10/08/18 2:20:50 AM
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toyota posted...


This topic took a turn.
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pegusus123456
10/08/18 2:23:52 AM
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SuperShake666 posted...
toyota posted...

This topic took a turn.

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legendarylemur
10/08/18 2:23:58 AM
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Yikes.
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ProfessorKukui
10/08/18 2:25:19 AM
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As expected. Pack it in mods.
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toyota
10/09/18 9:40:27 PM
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is it worth checking out again
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WalkingLobsters
10/09/18 9:50:37 PM
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UnfairRepresent
10/09/18 9:53:50 PM
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Without seeing the anime I find it hard to imagine why they had to show people graphically being raped by Goblins.

I mean what does that add to a story other than getting perverts off? Who wants to see that.

In Dragonball Z the Freeza forces probably raped people before destroying their worlds. We never saw it.

I mean Dragon Age was an 18 rated game and in the plot they explain that the Darkspawn are made by horrible monsters kidnapping, torturing and gang-raping girls, then forcing them to eat their boyfriends. But they didn't SHOW us that in graphic detail.
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UnfairRepresent
10/09/18 10:07:19 PM
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Th3Truth posted...

Never heard of game of thrones?

When did Game of thrones have graphic cartoon depictions of Goblins raping people?
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pegusus123456
10/09/18 10:11:57 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Without seeing the anime I find it hard to imagine why they had to show people graphically being raped by Goblins.

I mean what does that add to a story other than getting perverts off? Who wants to see that.

Mind you, I just read the first chapter online after seeing this topic, but I think the graphic assault and violence is sort of the point. It starts off as a happy priest joining an adventurer's guild and joins up with another novice group of a monk, fighter, and mage who are going to take out a goblin camp. Goblins are said to have the strength and intelligence of a child, so it's just an amateur task that they're sure they can handle. Given this topic, I'm sure you can guess what happens to 'em.

I don't know how the rest of the story plays out, but the first chapter is deliberately setting up expectations of it being a light-hearted D&D-type manga with the confident, up-beat fighter, the shy, chaste healer, the tsudnere mage, and that monk who I forgot the details of. The gratuitous violence and sexual assault (which isn't outright shown but it's very clear that's what's happening) then subverts those expectations.

There's nothing about it that anyone would probably be getting off to unless they have some very specific preferences.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/09/18 10:17:48 PM
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It was really over the top. I don't like it when anime feel exploitative in their shock. Like, the grossness of Berserk makes a lot of sense narratively speaking. This just felt a little over the top. I mean, you actively watch the priestess piss herself as others around her are being raped.

It's a shame how over the top it was cause I liked the character design and the general "idea" of it, plus the more realistic approach to fighting it has. (The Goblin Slayer made a big enemy come down a narrow pathway that he set up a tripline. Big enemy fall down, he stabs it through the neck for the kill).

But if all that is going to prefaced by rookie characters going out and getting raped? Nah, I don't want to see that.
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UnfairRepresent
10/09/18 10:21:18 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
t was really over the top. I don't like it when anime feel exploitative in their shock. Like, the grossness of Berserk makes a lot of sense narratively speaking. This just felt a little over the top. I mean, you actively watch the priestess piss herself as others around her are being raped.

Yeah I can see why people are outraged

This is just dumb shock value fetish fuel
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Zack_Attackv1
10/09/18 10:29:22 PM
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Just another Tuesday for me personally.
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Evil_Evil_Evil_
10/09/18 10:37:15 PM
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first episode was a lot different than how i expected
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iPhone_7
10/09/18 10:37:44 PM
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Showing rape or even implying it is unnecessary. Just show killing and gore.
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DirkDiggles
10/09/18 10:39:11 PM
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Where do you guys think baby goblins come from? In past lore (D&D mind you) female goblins were very rare. Therefor male goblins raid settlements and abduct women that give birth to their offspring.
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ultimate reaver
10/09/18 10:40:19 PM
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this edgy shit is getting an anime while dungeon meshi wallows in obscurity
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jumi
10/09/18 10:58:43 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Just another Tuesday for me personally.


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Nidhoggr
10/10/18 3:59:44 AM
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Thank god Japan doesn't care about SJW's in other countries complaining about their animes.
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shinobipride
10/10/18 4:07:39 AM
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toyota posted...
It has rape scenes and its being accused of promoting rape culture

I dont get why since the goblins committing rape are the bad guys and rape is being shown to be an evil act.

Why is the presence of rape considered to be promoting rape culture?

Rape is the absolute worth u could do to anyone e. Way worse than first degree meditatedmurdwr
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Newhopes
10/10/18 4:07:56 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Showing rape or even implying it is unnecessary. Just show killing and gore.


It's not that bad it's only really the first time when he rescues the priestess that you see it , after that you only really see the aftermath.
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shinobipride
10/10/18 4:08:56 AM
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Newhopes posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Showing rape or even implying it is unnecessary. Just show killing and gore.


It's not that bad it's only really the first time when he rescues the priestess that you see it , after that you only really see the aftermath.

Just imagine...U horny motherfucker
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Newhopes
10/10/18 4:11:48 AM
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shinobipride posted...
Newhopes posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Showing rape or even implying it is unnecessary. Just show killing and gore.


It's not that bad it's only really the first time when he rescues the priestess that you see it , after that you only really see the aftermath.

Just imagine...U horny motherfucker


It's only really shown the first time when he rescue's the priestess it's basically there to reinforce just how bad it is for women to be caught by the goblins, after that you only really see the aftermath.
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shinobipride
10/10/18 4:14:41 AM
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA
10/10/18 7:59:01 AM
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Yo, I just watch the first ep

It's not nearly as gory as Elfin Leid

and the first episode isn't that good.

It's really only getting hype cause one of the main plot points is rape.

However it's got a nice premise, so it could get better.
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Vyrulisse
10/10/18 8:01:18 AM
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I don't understand the outcry. Monster rape in anime/hentai isn't new or rare
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Ricemills
10/10/18 8:03:11 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
toyota posted...

This topic took a turn.


why the fuck the alt rights always drag anime into their agenda?
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Turtlebread
10/10/18 8:06:07 AM
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Im sure japan gives a shit
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myzz7
10/10/18 8:08:24 AM
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nobody tell SJWs about Ninja Scroll
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ThePieReborn
10/10/18 8:12:00 AM
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Liked the manga. Appreciate the strategic approach to the combat scenes rather than the usual gung-ho, kick-down-the-front-door-and-fuck-thinking route.

The party is actually pretty endearing too.
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Mist_Turnips
10/10/18 8:16:33 AM
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Just looks like another turbo nerd power fantasy series. Writing rape to paint them as bad guys is more a lack of any writing talent more than anything. But I'm all for triggering the snowflakes lol.
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CyricZ
10/10/18 8:22:55 AM
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It's not about just whether you're depicting rape. It's about depicting it with meaning and not to seem exploitative or indulgent.

So I watched the scene from the first episode where the initial party gets wrecked and it is pretty indulgent in how they're depicting that one character (out of three who get killed) singled out for being raped, including the fact that there is another female character who just gets stabbed and dies. The character in question was given the most thought in their design, the most obvious "figure", and then every shot of her having every last bit of her clothes ripped off and was showing her very clean and pristine skin underneath, giving us a considerable view of her naked body.

That's not what actual rape looks like. That's just a rape fantasy in animated form.

Also, for those citing Game of Thrones, GoT has also been called out for being exploitative in how it depicts rape, so it's not like it got a full pass or anything.

It's one thing to use rape to make it seem like shit's seriously fucked, but it's another to frame it like a hentai. In my opinion, Goblin Slayer is doing the latter in an attempt to get away with the former.

There are so many other ways they could show that this is not a typical happy fantasy world. Just one example off the top of my head is that they could show the goblins eating their prey.
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Nidhoggr
10/10/18 8:35:20 AM
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CyricZ posted...
It's not about just whether you're depicting rape. It's about depicting it with meaning and not to seem exploitative or indulgent.

So I watched the scene from the first episode where the initial party gets wrecked and it is pretty indulgent in how they're depicting that one character (out of three who get killed) singled out for being raped, including the fact that there is another female character who just gets stabbed and dies. The character in question was given the most thought in their design, the most obvious "figure", and then every shot of her having every last bit of her clothes ripped off and was showing her very clean and pristine skin underneath, giving us a considerable view of her naked body.

That's not what actual rape looks like. That's just a rape fantasy in animated form.

Also, for those citing Game of Thrones, GoT has also been called out for being exploitative in how it depicts rape, so it's not like it got a full pass or anything.

It's one thing to use rape to make it seem like shit's seriously fucked, but it's another to frame it like a hentai. In my opinion, Goblin Slayer is doing the latter in an attempt to get away with the former.

There are so many other ways they could show that this is not a typical happy fantasy world. Just one example off the top of my head is that they could show the goblins eating their prey.

Actually the other dying girl was going to be raped too, it didn't show it very well. In the manga it was pretty clear.

Anyways, people are taking this way too seriously. At the end of the day it is fiction, a cartoon no less, so unless everyone is going to start advocating for censorship I don't see why anyone should care.
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SubtletyRefuge
10/10/18 8:37:36 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Also, for those citing Game of Thrones, GoT has also been called out for being exploitative in how it depicts rape, so it's not like it got a full pass or anything.

Only by overly sensitive individuals who look to be offended by everything such as yourself. This is a very dark horror show. Gratuitous gore and sexual assault is par for the course
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CyricZ
10/10/18 8:46:27 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
Anyways, people are taking this way too seriously. At the end of the day it is fiction, a cartoon no less, so unless everyone is going to start advocating for censorship I don't see why anyone should care.

This always strikes me as so disingenuous an argument. In one breath it's "it's just fiction don't take it too seriously" and in the next they complain about their favorite movie/comic/anime/TV show being ruined by... oh... say... "the SJWs". I mean, which is it?

Of course fiction matters. We put deep emotional investment in it as a society. We see ourselves mirrored in the fiction we make. We're posting on a video game message board, a medium devoted to giving us all fantastic interactive experiences. We should be the last people who say that "it doesn't matter, don't take it too seriously", quite frankly.

I'm not saying "never depict rape". I'm saying "think about it before you do and for God's sake could you try and NOT make it look sexy?"

SubtletyRefuge posted...
CyricZ posted...
Also, for those citing Game of Thrones, GoT has also been called out for being exploitative in how it depicts rape, so it's not like it got a full pass or anything.

Only by overly sensitive individuals who look to be offended by everything such as yourself. This is a very dark horror show. Gratuitous gore and sexual assault is par for the course

Your opinion on me notwithstanding, it stands that citing another media for having rape doesn't mean that they did it well either.
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA
10/10/18 8:47:01 AM
#49:


Vyrulisse posted...
I don't understand the outcry. Monster rape in anime/hentai isn't new or rare


This is kinda why I am suspicious of this anime/manga

I think it's trying to playfully captilize on the outcry, by combining one form of hentai genre that is not as popular, with a very common western-rpg archetype anime setting.

I mean we have seen this before a TON of times, but most of those show know exactly what they are.

This feels more like a Wizardry*Beserk + Rape as Drama - Hardcore depictions. Like the show realizes that if the Goblins didn't brutally rape women, then there would really be no show...
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Ricemills
10/10/18 8:50:23 AM
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TC said people triggered over this anime, but in this topic he is the only who thinks the goblin are metaphors for immigrants.
unless you already thinks that the immigrants are not human, normal people won't compare them to goblins.
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