Current Events > new anime Goblin Slayer triggering a lot of people *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

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CyricZ posted...

This always strikes me as so disingenuous an argument. In one breath it's "it's just fiction don't take it too seriously" and in the next they complain about their favorite movie/comic/anime/TV show being ruined by... oh... say... "the SJWs". I mean, which is it?

Of course fiction matters. We put deep emotional investment in it as a society. We see ourselves mirrored in the fiction we make. We're posting on a video game message board, a medium devoted to giving us all fantastic interactive experiences. We should be the last people who say that "it doesn't matter, don't take it too seriously", quite frankly.

I'm not saying "never depict rape". I'm saying "think about it before you do and for God's sake could you try and NOT make it look sexy?"

So you're worried about it arousing people or normalizing rape. I can understand your point. But do you also include violence and murder in that? Violence and murder is shown way more often and depicted as exciting and fun. There have been entire TV shows where the main characters are serial killers.

Kineth posted...

Being accused of promoting rape culture by who?

SJWs as usual
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Read the first two chapters of the manga
The rape scenes were definitely done in a horrific way. It didn't promote other things at all.

The Goblin Slayer character seems pretty rad, might keep reading it for him.
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CatataFish462 posted...

Kineth posted...

Being accused of promoting rape culture by who?

SJWs as usual

I'm pretty sure SJWs didn't try to look at the goblins as a metaphor for immigrants like TC did.
and it's stupid that anyone even think it's promoting rape culture when it's clearly depicted that the goblins are irredeemable and must be slain.
unless they portrayed them as sympathetic, then it's definitely against rape culture, not supporting it.

what next? some people claiming that "punch the Nazis" movement are promoting Nazi ideology?
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The minute someone uses the term "rape culture" you should automatically dismiss their entire argument

CyricZ posted...

Your opinion on me notwithstanding, it stands that citing another media for having rape doesn't mean that they did it well either.

The point is that it doesn't matter. This isn't some deep philosophical literary narrative, this is some edgy grimdark show meant for cheap shocks like how South Park/Family Guy/Basically everything Seth McFarlane is with jokes. You don't give a shit when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture or when South Park and Family Guy endorses casual racism and sexual assault/pedophilia jokes but whenever it comes to anime you need to have your nerd analysis over it.
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Turbam posted...

Read the first two chapters of the manga
The rape scenes were definitely done in a horrific way. It didn't promote other things at all.

The Goblin Slayer character seems pretty rad, might keep reading it for him.

Keep reading, you won't find any more rape scenes after chapter 1 if that's not your thing. Well except maybe 1 more brief scene later, but after that is pretty much ok.
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Ricemills posted...

CatataFish462 posted...

Kineth posted...

Being accused of promoting rape culture by who?

SJWs as usual

I'm pretty sure SJWs didn't try to look at the goblins as a metaphor for immigrants like TC did.
and it's stupid that anyone even think it's promoting rape culture when it's clearly depicted that the goblins are irredeemable and must be slain.
unless they portrayed them as sympathetic, then it's definitely against rape culture, not supporting it.

what next? some people claiming that "punch the Nazis" movement are promoting Nazi ideology?

This is such a disengious argument.
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

You don't give a s*** when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture

I do think that if e.g. Jason instead of killing his victims just raped each of them it would cause a lot more outcry.
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what was that anime where the chick gets raped by a talking horse
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St0rmFury posted...

Turbam posted...

Read the first two chapters of the manga
The rape scenes were definitely done in a horrific way. It didn't promote other things at all.

The Goblin Slayer character seems pretty rad, might keep reading it for him.

Keep reading, you won't find any more rape scenes after chapter 1 if that's not your thing. Well except maybe 1 more brief scene later, but after that is pretty much ok.

eh, there are a few more but it's much less prominent. mostly a flashback scene tho.
or maybe I mix things up with the spinoff series.
but yes, the series itself is quite good. they are using rape scenes as shock value and nudity fanservice.
UnfairRepresent posted...

This is such a disengious argument.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77084712
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Anteaterking posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

You don't give a s*** when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture

I do think that if e.g. Jason instead of killing his victims just raped each of them it would cause a lot more outcry.

That says a lot about our society more than anything but I wouldn't be too sure. Freddy Kruger was said to be a child rapist and I'm pretty sure he tried to molest a teen in Freddy vs Jason yet he's still hailed as one of the greatest horror icons. As said, there are gratuitous rape scenes in Game of Thrones and it's considered one of the best shows of the decade. I spit on your grave and Death Wish which have rape scenes are cult classics
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

That says a lot about our society more than anythin

You can thank Christianity for that
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Who cares it's Japan.
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Th3Truth posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

Anteaterking posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

You don't give a s*** when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture

I do think that if e.g. Jason instead of killing his victims just raped each of them it would cause a lot more outcry.

That says a lot about our society more than anything but I wouldn't be too sure. Freddy Kruger was said to be a child rapist and I'm pretty sure he tried to molest a teen in Freddy vs Jason yet he's still hailed as one of the greatest horror icons. As said, there are gratuitous rape scenes in Game of Thrones and it's considered one of the best shows of the decade. I spit on your grave and Death Wish which have rape scenes are cult classics

There's also a rape scene in Watchmen that I'm pretty sure isn't "realistic" and made to be sexy. I mean, the woman was basically wearing a stripper outfit.

1. He failed in raping her.

2. The plot in Watchman was that the woman actually wanted him to fuck her and proceeded to fuck him regardless.

Not really comparable.
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Romulox28 posted...

what was that anime where the chick gets raped by a talking horse

Words Worth.
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Nidhoggr posted...

But do you also include violence and murder in that? Violence and murder is shown way more often and depicted as exciting and fun.

Sure. Again, not saying "don't do it", but contextualize it properly.

Shows like Dexter get away with it because you know exactly what you're getting into. They don't use the violence and killing as a cheap way of getting you to pay attention. It's part of the core conceit of the show. Furthermore, they do their best to temper the horror around the way they write their episodes and contextualize everything that happens.

Tropes like "Abuse Is Funny When It's Male on Female" bother me, too. or "Men are the Expendable Gender" where the media makes a point of preserving its female characters but male characters die by the truckload.
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These people would hate shows like La Blue Girl or Dragon Pink.
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

The point is that it doesn't matter. This isn't some deep philosophical literary narrative, this is some edgy grimdark show meant for cheap shocks like how South Park/Family Guy/Basically everything Seth McFarlane is with jokes. You don't give a shit when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture or when South Park and Family Guy endorses casual racism and sexual assault/pedophilia jokes but whenever it comes to anime you need to have your nerd analysis over it.

See the upper part of Post #48 on why "it doesn't matter" is a rather horseshit argument for people posting on a video game message board and being worried about censorship.
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The light novel gives a better insight of their world. Goblins are a male only race. Any race they breed with produces male goblin children. Thats why they kidnap and rape women when they raid villages. They build their nests in caves or adandoned structures. People in the world consider goblins low level enemies so a lot of newbie adventurers accept goblin slaying quests but what happens is that these newbie adventurers misjudge how strong goblins. As the LN says, there are 3 types of people who hunt goblins, people who beat them easily, people who get hurt but learn from it and people who underestimate goblins and get wiped out out.

There is another scene in the first light novel that depicts a party of 4 woman adventurers raiding a goblin nest to save a captured woman and losing the fight. 3 of them are tortured while the goblins make the leader watch. Its implied they do horrible things to the leader for 3 days before dumping her body in a river. Just an FYI. It builds up to why goblin slayer only takes on goblin quests.

Im enjoying the LN because it takes a different view of what an adventure is. Towards the end of the novel, goblin slayer and priestess join another party of 3 to clear of nest of goblins located in some ruins. After the fight as theyre heading back to the village, one of the party members thinks about what an adventure means. What they found at the ruins and the aftermath of the fight wasnt an adventure. There was no fun, excitement or gratification of hunting goblins; only empty weariness. As the LN says, goblins were different because they had no reason - only evil. Evil towards humans, evil towards every other living thing. To hunt goblins was to confront that evil over and over again. To hunt them was no adventure and those who chose that path was no adventurer. They were him, goblin slayer.
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Th3Truth posted...

Unless I'm watching the wrong scene saying "it gives considerable view of her naked body" is extremely dishonest

What's more dishonest is ignoring the part where I made note that her skin is completely clean, and that almost every last stitch of her clothing was removed in the process.

Neither of those are indicative of the actual crime of rape. Rape victims are usually physically subdued to the point of bruising or lacerations, and the attacker typically doesn't even remove all of their victim's clothes.

That's the indulgent part. That's the part being framed as sexy. That's the part I take issue with.
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CyricZ posted...

Th3Truth posted...

Unless I'm watching the wrong scene saying "it gives considerable view of her naked body" is extremely dishonest

What's more dishonest is ignoring the part where I made note that her skin is completely clean, and that almost every last stitch of her clothing was removed in the process.

Neither of those are indicative of the actual crime of rape. Rape victims are usually physically subdued to the point of bruising or lacerations, and the attacker typically doesn't even remove all of their victim's clothes.

That's the indulgent part. That's the part being framed as sexy. That's the part I take issue with.

Are you trying to suggest the way they depict goblins raping women is not realistic because no human rapist rips off clothes of their victim?

By the way, fighter was beaten and subdued before her clothes were ripped off.
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rookieplayer03 posted...

CyricZ posted...

Th3Truth posted...

Unless I'm watching the wrong scene saying "it gives considerable view of her naked body" is extremely dishonest

What's more dishonest is ignoring the part where I made note that her skin is completely clean, and that almost every last stitch of her clothing was removed in the process.

Neither of those are indicative of the actual crime of rape. Rape victims are usually physically subdued to the point of bruising or lacerations, and the attacker typically doesn't even remove all of their victim's clothes.

That's the indulgent part. That's the part being framed as sexy. That's the part I take issue with.

Are you trying to suggest the way they depict goblins raping women is not realistic because no human rapist rips off clothes of their victim?

No he's pointing out that the thing is fanservice and shock value to get people off

Stripping a hot chick naked dramatically and raping her in graphic detail, bot for narrative purposes.

The Goblins didn't rape the male warrior and rip him naked. Because nobody will jerk off to that. Even though that would do just as good as job as getting them across as evil.

They could also just as easily tell the story without showing it.

That's why it makes people uncomfortable.
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CyricZ posted...

SubtletyRefuge posted...

The point is that it doesn't matter. This isn't some deep philosophical literary narrative, this is some edgy grimdark show meant for cheap shocks like how South Park/Family Guy/Basically everything Seth McFarlane is with jokes. You don't give a shit when slashers and torture porn like Terrifier, Freddy Kruger and SAW have their gratuitous minor slaughtering and torture or when South Park and Family Guy endorses casual racism and sexual assault/pedophilia jokes but whenever it comes to anime you need to have your nerd analysis over it.

See the upper part of Post #48 on why "it doesn't matter" is a rather horseshit argument for people posting on a video game message board and being worried about censorship.

You're seeing things in black and white. Some media can matter typically shows meant for younger audiences and children, others doesn't. It's why I brought up it not being a deep philosophical thing to study. No one is caring about Family Guy makes light of pedophilia with Herbert by making Chris be the butt of the joke or mocking Peter being molested as a child. No one is caring about how Terrifier and other slashers are glorifying the serial killers by having the murderers win and be the main characters who return in sequels while the victims are just their kill counts.
This show is clearly in the same part of grimdark as slashers and not meant to be presented to kids as a way of teaching morals.
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Th3Truth posted...

Sounds like an excuse to justify your own bias. Why can't inhuman psychotic goblins have rape be a "core conceit" of their characters and their scene to showcase it?

This will be my third fucking time saying it, but I'm not saying "don't do it". Just don't frame rape scenes with indulgence for the sake of the camera.

Reading into what rookieplayer posted, it seems there are written and implemented reasons for the universe being like that. That's the context that's necessary. That said, I still think it's a little narratively indulgent just to have a story that says "they're evil and there's no reason. They just kill and rape and are clearly sentient, but they're just evil". If the series goes further into the culture of goblins to figure a raison d'etre beyond "they're just evil", that'd be more interesting.

Even D&D tried to contextualize its sentient monsters with motivations and standards.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

CyricZ posted...

Th3Truth posted...

Unless I'm watching the wrong scene saying "it gives considerable view of her naked body" is extremely dishonest

What's more dishonest is ignoring the part where I made note that her skin is completely clean, and that almost every last stitch of her clothing was removed in the process.

Neither of those are indicative of the actual crime of rape. Rape victims are usually physically subdued to the point of bruising or lacerations, and the attacker typically doesn't even remove all of their victim's clothes.

That's the indulgent part. That's the part being framed as sexy. That's the part I take issue with.

Are you trying to suggest the way they depict goblins raping women is not realistic because no human rapist rips off clothes of their victim?

No he's pointing out that the thing is fanservice and shock value to get people off

Stripping a hot chick naked dramatically and raping her in graphic detail, bot for narrative purposes.

The Goblins didn't rape the male warrior and rip him naked. Because nobody will jerk off to that. Even though that would do just as good as job as getting them across as evil.

They could also just as easily tell the story without showing it.

That's why it makes people uncomfortable.

Sure but goblins cant breed with males. The goblins hacked warrior to pieces. They dont show it directly just as they did with the rape.
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I wished the anime included the noob party members' flashbacks though. It shows that goblins do not give a fuck about your background & motivations.
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rookieplayer03 posted...

Are you trying to suggest the way they depict goblins raping women is not realistic because no human rapist rips off clothes of their victim?

By the way, fighter was beaten and subdued before her clothes were ripped off.

Thought she was a monk. Fighter was the dude with the sword.

Anyway, what I'm suggesting is that rape isn't sexy, and trying to frame it that way just for the purpose of getting people interested in your show is cheap and not worthy of the praise of "Oh thank God the Japanese aren't shy about showing rape." I mean who the hell says that.

SubtletyRefuge posted...

Some media can matter typically shows meant for younger audiences and children, others doesn't.

All media matters, and it all affects us. Period. In some small way at least. It matters in how we think about it, how we interpret it, and how it shapes us. You don't get to pick and choose which media affects you or not. Suggesting otherwise is just trying to have your cake and eat it too, on this issue. I find it hilarious you call my interpretation "black and white" when your interpretation is "either it affects us or it doesn't".
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rookieplayer03 posted...

Sure but goblins cant breed with males.

So?

It would still get them across as evil.

But no, can't jerk off to that so isn't shown.

And you said it youself. Dude being hacked to pieces isn't shown, but rape is.

It's clearly fanservice.
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Th3Truth posted...

What a stupid thing to single out. That's less about being indulgent and more about just not caring about details since it's fiction.

Th3Truth posted...

Sounds like an excuse to justify your own bias.

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CyricZ posted...

All media matters, and it all affects us. Period. In some small way at least. It matters in how we think about it, how we interpret it, and how it shapes us. You don't get to pick and choose which media affects you or not. Suggesting otherwise is just trying to have your cake and eat it too, on this issue. I find it hilarious you call my interpretation "black and white" when your interpretation is "either it affects us or it doesn't".

This is a broad blanket statement that is blatantly not true. How detached from reality can you be? Some things are obviously supposed to be taken less seriously than others. Satire and parodies aren't meant to be taken as serious as a serious story. Dystopian stories are meant to have the world be more depressing and have people including the main characters be assholes with family-unfriendly aesops compared to a Disney movie. Slashers have people give little flack to what people would rampage and riot over in any other genre.
It's why you're ignoring why no one is clamoring over all the unhealthy and indulgent shit in the examples I gave. Your mindset is one of a child's
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UnfairRepresent posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

Sure but goblins cant breed with males.

So?

It would still get them across as evil.

But no, can't jerk off to that so isn't shown.

And you said it youself. Dude being hacked to pieces isn't shown, but rape is.

It's clearly fanservice.

Please re-read what I wrote. They dont show rape. The shot pans up the moment before. They dont show warrior being hacked to pieces. Its implied warrior was hacked to pieces because when priestess and goblin slayer return to the area, a shot of warriors severed hand is shown.

They dont show it directly just as they did with the rape. Let me rewrite this as it was ambiguous. They dont show the hacking of warrior directly just as they dont show the raping of fighter directly.
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

Freddy Kruger was said to be a child rapist and I'm pretty sure he tried to molest a teen in Freddy vs Jason yet he's still hailed as one of the greatest horror icons.

He was said to be a child rapist, you don't see him raping children. My main point I'm making with Jason or Freddy is that those series are completely driven by "money shot" kills. The audience is supposed to cheer on these teens being murdered and get satisfaction from seeing the elements of the backdrop right before a kill and saying "Oh wow, is he going to electrocute her with that hanging wire?" etc. That just doesn't work if you replace murder with rape. The audience is not going to cheer on the serial rapist hunting down teens and raping them in creative ways.

SubtletyRefuge posted...

As said, there are gratuitous rape scenes in Game of Thrones and it's considered one of the best shows of the decade.

And as has been mentioned multiple times in this topic, GoT has received criticism for their rape scenes and most people do not think those scenes are handled well.

SubtletyRefuge posted...

I spit on your grave and Death Wish which have rape scenes are cult classics

Let's look at Evil Dead vs the remake of Evil Dead. The tree rape scene is one of the most iconic scenes from Evil Dead 1, but was left out of the remake, not because they were worried about SJWs, but because it had aged very poorly.
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rookieplayer03 posted...

Please re-read what I wrote. They dont show rape. The shot pans up the moment before. They dont show warrior being hacked to pieces. Its implied warrior was hacked to pieces because when priestess and goblin slayer return to the area, a shot of warriors severed hand is shown.

Oh come on now. They showed her naked body. They showed the last bit of clothing ripped off. They showed the monk's ass as the goblin gripped it. They showed her face afterwards with a blank stare on her face and drool rolling out when they just cut to the fighter's sword and the mage's glasses.

For god's sake, defend the sake of the show's premise, but don't defend whether or not that shot was meant to be sexy. Because it absolutely was, for reasons I've explained already.
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Th3Truth posted...

This is what I'm talking about bias. Why does there need to be a reason for rape to be inherent to the goblins? Does there need to be a reason for why the demons in Doom want to kill people? You're taking this way too seriously in ways that you wouldn't do for other series.

Because its fanservice for pervs to masturbate too and you're rather childishly trying to pretend it's not
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rookieplayer03 posted...

Goblins are a male only race. Any race they breed with produces male goblin children.

It's a shallow reasoning to justify some dude's pretty gross fetish.

The Darkspawn in Dragon Age are also implied to rape their captives but the difference is it's not exploitative.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Th3Truth posted...

This is what I'm talking about bias. Why does there need to be a reason for rape to be inherent to the goblins? Does there need to be a reason for why the demons in Doom want to kill people? You're taking this way too seriously in ways that you wouldn't do for other series.

Because its fanservice for pervs to masturbate too and you're rather childishly trying to pretend it's not

Thats a broad statement. Stereotypes are formed when people make generalizations like yours.
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Irregardless posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

Goblins are a male only race. Any race they breed with produces male goblin children.

It's a shallow reasoning to justify some dude's pretty gross fetish.

The Darkspawn in Dragon Age are also implied to rape their captives but the difference is it's not exploitative.

Sure, I have no problem with you thinking its shallow.
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rookieplayer03 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Th3Truth posted...

This is what I'm talking about bias. Why does there need to be a reason for rape to be inherent to the goblins? Does there need to be a reason for why the demons in Doom want to kill people? You're taking this way too seriously in ways that you wouldn't do for other series.

Because its fanservice for pervs to masturbate too and you're rather childishly trying to pretend it's not

Thats a broad statement. Stereotypes are formed when people make generalizations like yours.

There are people IN THIS TOPIC posting about having the weirdest boner.

I went to a YT video and people are responding how turned on they are.

Maybe I'm just a fucking SJW but I don't think it's healthy to say that about a rape scene.

If that doesn't prove the intent of the scene, then I don't know what will.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

Sure but goblins cant breed with males.

So?

It would still get them across as evil.

But no, can't jerk off to that so isn't shown.

And you said it youself. Dude being hacked to pieces isn't shown, but rape is.

It's clearly fanservice.

You're naive if you think there are people who'll jack it to a woman being raped and no one who'll jack it to a man being raped.
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CyricZ posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

Please re-read what I wrote. They dont show rape. The shot pans up the moment before. They dont show warrior being hacked to pieces. Its implied warrior was hacked to pieces because when priestess and goblin slayer return to the area, a shot of warriors severed hand is shown.

Oh come on now. They showed her naked body. They showed the last bit of clothing ripped off. They showed the monk's ass as the goblin gripped it. They showed her face afterwards with a blank stare on her face and drool rolling out when they just cut to the fighter's sword and the mage's glasses.

For god's sake, defend the sake of the show's premise, but don't defend whether or not that shot was meant to be sexy. Because it absolutely was, for reasons I've explained already.

They dont show rape explicitly. Im not here to defend the show - only give my thoughts as you are as well. The problem is your unwillingness to accept others peoples take of the scene.
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Anteaterking posted...

He was said to be a child rapist, you don't see him raping children. My main point I'm making with Jason or Freddy is that those series are completely driven by "money shot" kills. The audience is supposed to cheer on these teens being murdered and get satisfaction from seeing the elements of the backdrop right before a kill and saying "Oh wow, is he going to electrocute her with that hanging wire?" etc. That just doesn't work if you replace murder with rape. The audience is not going to cheer on the serial rapist hunting down teens and raping them in creative ways.

Is this supposed to be a good thing?
So basically you're justifying gratuitous and indulgent violence and torture because you're saying society is used to it but rape can't get the same standards because society considers sex more abhorrent than violence. But there are a lot of people, I might say, even the majority who are able to look past rape in media as this specific special type of unshowable evil and just view it in the same lens that society does to murder in media. However, then we get hypocrites like Cyric (and maybe you?) who contribute to casually dismissing glorifying killing and murder in media but get all up in arms over rape.

Anteaterking posted...

And as has been mentioned multiple times in this topic, GoT has received criticism for their rape scenes and most people do not think those scenes are handled well.

And they are the hypocrites I'm referring to if they complain about that but not the excessive violence like the red wedding. Though, seeing as it's one of the top rated shows with its willingness to defy norms and put in rape scenes usually being expressed as a pro I'd say those complainers are a vocal minority.

Anteaterking posted...

Let's look at Evil Dead vs the remake of Evil Dead. The tree rape scene is one of the most iconic scenes from Evil Dead 1, but was left out of the remake, not because they were worried about SJWs, but because it had aged very poorly.

That's definitely more a sign of pandering to a new audience. Since many things still reference and parody that scene it can't really be said it aged poorly.
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CyricZ posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Th3Truth posted...

This is what I'm talking about bias. Why does there need to be a reason for rape to be inherent to the goblins? Does there need to be a reason for why the demons in Doom want to kill people? You're taking this way too seriously in ways that you wouldn't do for other series.

Because its fanservice for pervs to masturbate too and you're rather childishly trying to pretend it's not

Thats a broad statement. Stereotypes are formed when people make generalizations like yours.

There are people IN THIS TOPIC posting about having the weirdest boner.

I went to a YT video and people are responding how turned on they are.

Maybe I'm just a fucking SJW but I don't think it's healthy to say that about a rape scene.

If that doesn't prove the intent of the scene, then I don't know what will.

Sure but I can also go to YouTube videos and Crunchyroll to find comments with people saying that all goblins should be killed based on the scene.
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Carl getting raped by handbanana in ATHF was more disturbing

CyricZ posted...

rookieplayer03 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Th3Truth posted...

This is what I'm talking about bias. Why does there need to be a reason for rape to be inherent to the goblins? Does there need to be a reason for why the demons in Doom want to kill people? You're taking this way too seriously in ways that you wouldn't do for other series.

Because its fanservice for pervs to masturbate too and you're rather childishly trying to pretend it's not

Thats a broad statement. Stereotypes are formed when people make generalizations like yours.

There are people IN THIS TOPIC posting about having the weirdest boner.

I went to a YT video and people are responding how turned on they are.

Maybe I'm just a fucking SJW but I don't think it's healthy to say that about a rape scene.

If that doesn't prove the intent of the scene, then I don't know what will.

And anteaterking himself admits that most people go "oh boy, I'd love to see how that bitch gets her face electrocuted off!" in slashers. Is that supposed to be healthier?
Or when people go "lmao he was molested as a child that scene had me rolling" in family guy?
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