Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 197: Red Red Whine

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Multi what.

That's a sad attempt even for you.
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LapisLazuli posted...

It's 2018 Ulti, we're having fun with it but the contest isn't actually something that matters. You're statement is basically reversed.

The president has virtually no effect on your life and you literally only care what letter follows someones name. Its childish reflective glory.

If a democrat acted the literal act same as Trump, youd love him. Its why leftists are not trustworthy.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Multi what.

That's a sad attempt even for you.

Im not successful so obviously it means no one else is either.

Nice try, but no.

Work harder. There is no fair fairy. No one cares about your sob story.
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Ulti literally implied that we should not have politics discussion on this board. What the heck?

At this point I'm convinced that "anti-SJWs" are just spotlighting instances of political correctness gone mad to justify varying degrees and forms of bigotry without being especially blatant about it. What's sad is that they do tend to have a lot of good points, muddying the issue.

What happened to my country? Oh but they just go around attacking other countries for being too "liberal". F*** off America. A good portion of your population is total scum. Hillary's comment about the basket of deplorables was considerably more truthful than 90% of what comes out of Trump's mouth.
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We shouldn't discuss politics here if you people keep fucking responding to him
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Especially when Ulti keeps responding to my posts of all people like I was making some hard line stance worth countering in the first place.
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if a Democrat president mocked people in public at rallies for his base, during a time in our country where there is a clear divide in our country. I'd be livid
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if you don't enjoy talking with bad faith arguers, just put them on ignore. i have exactly 3 names on my ignore list and it has improved my experience of the board immensely

then again, if you secretly enjoy directing some rage towards unreasonable people, then i guess go on right ahead
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I have both of Ulti's main accounts on ignore. I was just curious enough to see his posts that I logged out briefly to see them.

Anyway, at this point being anti-metoo is practically sexist. Though that doesn't magically mean all sexual misconduct allegations should be believed immediately, but the fact that anti-metoo movements largely focus on the careers of men being tarnished over those accusing them is troubling.

Then again, what the hell, it's not like all perpetrators of sexual violence are men, or all victims of sexual violence are female. Hi Anthony Rapp!

EDIT: I'll place back the "who is your favorite celebrity caught up in #metoo?" question. Mine is John Lasseter.
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After literally pretending to be a millionaire, I think it might be time to place the old man back on the list myself.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...

I want to ask what's the celebrity you like most who has been caught up in metoo.

I see Louis CK as the most passionately defended, but then again what he admitted to doing pales in comparison to the Harvey Weinsteins and Bill Cosbys of the world.
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finally, who's left with ulti not ignored now

he's almost effectively nonexistent here so anyone remaining take note of that
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Obellisk posted...

if a Democrat president mocked people in public at rallies for his base, during a time in our country where there is a clear divide in our country. I'd be livid

Obama did this plenty of times, but it was funny so yay
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NFUN posted...

We shouldn't discuss politics here if you people keep fucking responding to him

Cry more
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LapisLazuli posted...

After literally pretending to be a millionaire, I think it might be time to place the old man back on the list myself.

Im not successful so I have to pretend no one else is.

People on this board have met me in real life and can vouch. Try again. Fail trolling is fail
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Oh god did he just make 3 posts in a row?

I dodged that bullet, thanks NFUN.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

I want to ask what's the celebrity you like most who has been caught up in metoo.

I see Louis CK as the most passionately defended, but then again what he admitted to doing pales in comparison to the Harvey Weinsteins and Bill Cosbys of the world.

Am I the only one who sees more and more similarities between Weinstein and Trump the more I think about it?

Thank god Hollywood doesn't stand for that nonsense. Though as far as we know Trump is nowhere near the monster Weinstein is, at least in terms of sexually abusing women. Which, given the allegations against Trump, says more about how much of a monster Weinstein is (and I didn't want to believe the allegations at first, but at least 80% of the evidence points towards him being guilty as sin so good riddance. That and one of my favorite actresses accused him so I will never live that down).
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LapisLazuli posted...

Oh god did he just make 3 posts in a row?

I dodged that bullet, thanks NFUN.

Fake ignore list is fake.
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Trump alert received.

Thankfully it was generic.

Can't wait until he uses it to campaign.
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LapisLazuli posted...

alert received.

Thankfully it was generic.

Can't wait until he uses it to campaign.

https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1047551542692179968
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https://whyy.org/articles/former-gov-ed-rendell-says-arrest-me-first-for-backing-safe-injection-facility/
The very first vote I ever cast was for this man.

You know what? I am still proud of that one. Its a shame he is old ugly and has kind of an awful speaking voice because this is bad ass.
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Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?
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Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Did Ulti post something? Or are you getting bent out of shape over Eddvs perfectly reasonable article?
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Seems like a good idea, could save hundreds, thousands if expanded.

Only some kind of Reaganite would oppose.
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In 1992, when Rendell was Philadelphia mayor at the height of the AIDS crisis, he authorized a citywide clean needle-exchange program for drug users despite threats from state and federal officials that authorities would shut down the operation.

My man.
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Espeon posted...

Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Did Ulti post something? Or are you getting bent out of shape over Eddvs perfectly reasonable article?

Yeah, trying to make drug usage more accessible. Great idea!
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Corrik posted...

Espeon posted...

Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Did Ulti post something? Or are you getting bent out of shape over Eddvs perfectly reasonable article?

Yeah, trying to make drug usage more accessible. Great idea!

Hey man, it's a free country
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Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Its despicable to give people who are going to shoot up anyway a safe place to do it?

Thats like...the opposite of that.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Its despicable to give people who are going to shoot up anyway a safe place to do it?

Thats like...the opposite of that.

You need to support people NOT shooting up. Not give them more accessibility to it and lower the drawbacks.

It is entirely despicable. I feel bad for whatever area that facility ends up being in. Gonna be some major backlash.
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They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.
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Corrik posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Its despicable to give people who are going to shoot up anyway a safe place to do it?

Thats like...the opposite of that.

You need to support people NOT shooting up. Not give them more accessibility to it and lower the drawbacks.

It is entirely despicable. I feel bad for whatever area that facility ends up being in. Gonna be some major backlash.

So I take it you're in favor of massive government healthcare programs to help these people quit their habits?
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LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

If they are going to shoot up regardless, they should deal with the consequences. You shouldn't have designated areas to go do illegal shit and be immune to the consequences / risks of it.
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Clean needle sharing programs are 100% defensible. I also thought these programs were common knowledge.
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Corrik posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

Jesus you support someone with ideas as despicable as that?

Its despicable to give people who are going to shoot up anyway a safe place to do it?

Thats like...the opposite of that.

You need to support people NOT shooting up. Not give them more accessibility to it and lower the drawbacks.

It is entirely despicable. I feel bad for whatever area that facility ends up being in. Gonna be some major backlash.

It's not giving more accessibility. It's the exact same accessibility, only in a safer environment. You're making it sound like the place is going to be handing out free heroine or something.
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LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

I swear we've had this exact conversation at least three other times. Corrik's entire moral stance can be defined as "I have no sympathy for anyone who experiences any negative consequences for their actions."

This is not a surprising take from him. He wants drug users to die, with their corpses removed from the streets before he's forced to see them.

He has no understanding of anything beyond the surface, so expecting him to grasp the idea of treating drug users with humanity is laughable.
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Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

If they are going to shoot up regardless, they should deal with the consequences. You shouldn't have designated areas to go do illegal shit and be immune to the consequences / risks of it.

Oh, so you DO want them all dead?

You'd be right at home leading a South American dictatorship.
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Peace___Frog posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

I swear we've had this exact conversation at least three other times. Corrik's entire moral stance can be defined as "I have no sympathy for anyone who experiences any negative consequences for their actions."

This is not a surprising take from him. He wants drug users to die, with their corpses removed from the streets before he's forced to see them.

He has no understanding of anything beyond the surface, so expecting him to grasp the idea of treating drug users with humanity is laughable.

I know, it just never ceases to be shocking how willfully ignorant he is.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

If they are going to shoot up regardless, they should deal with the consequences. You shouldn't have designated areas to go do illegal shit and be immune to the consequences / risks of it.

Oh, so you DO want them all dead?

You'd be right at home leading a South American dictatorship.

Do I want people dead? No. I want them not doing drugs. I want drugs made more inaccessible. Not more accessible.
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Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

If they are going to shoot up regardless, they should deal with the consequences. You shouldn't have designated areas to go do illegal shit and be immune to the consequences / risks of it.

Oh, so you DO want them all dead?

You'd be right at home leading a South American dictatorship.

Do I want people dead? No. I want them not doing drugs. I want drugs made more inaccessible. Not more accessible.

Do you think these places are handing out free drugs, or do you just not know what the word "accessible" means
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

They are going to shoot up regardless. You're saying you'd rather them die from infection instead of potentially getting help later? Who are you, Vlado?

This is why people don't consider you mature enough for these discussions.

If they are going to shoot up regardless, they should deal with the consequences. You shouldn't have designated areas to go do illegal shit and be immune to the consequences / risks of it.

Oh, so you DO want them all dead?

You'd be right at home leading a South American dictatorship.

Man, calling people "despicable" and then in the next breath saying drug users should die.

For fuck's sake what is Corrik
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I assume he must think they're supplying heroin.
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We're talking about a guy here who thinks people should stay in jail for marijuana possession after it's legalized.

He has absolutely no moral compass.
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Hi, I'm here for my easily accessible free drugs!
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Corrik posted...

Do I want people dead? No. I want them not doing drugs.

Can't do drugs if you're dead.

*image of black man pointing at his head while giving the camera a knowing smile*
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LapisLazuli posted...

We're talking about a guy here who thinks people should stay in jail for marijuana possession after it's legalized.

He has absolutely no moral compass.

makes you wonder why he doesn't have such a hardline stance on alcohol
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Zing!
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CelesMyUserName posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

alert received.

Thankfully it was generic.

Can't wait until he uses it to campaign.

https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1047551542692179968

God damn
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Not_an_Owl posted...

So I take it you're in favor of massive government healthcare programs to help these people quit their habits?

To be clear this would be my preferred solution.

But short of that I 1 million percent support this. Too many loved ones have died from overdosing and complications from being junkies for me not to be.
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StealThisSheen posted...

do you just not know what the word "accessible" means

This would be the only part of this that might surprise me
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I hope Corrik never has a family member with an addiction problem
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