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Why are Southerners often portrayed as racist religious hicks?
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Why indeed...

As a southerner, this will be good. I could write a thesis on why those stereotypes are largely accurate.
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This about all southerners?
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Do we want real answers or just shitposting?
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davyheinz posted...

Do we want real answers or just shitposting?

Surprise me
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Stereotypes are fine as long as theyre about white people in red states
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Because I talk to people like @SageHarpuia and find out they're more true every day
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Not a stereotype, but the southern accent also just sucks. :)

Also they are bible thumping racists.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Stereotypes are fine as long as theyre about white people in red states

There are grains of truth in every stereotype. Its funny how picky some people are about which ones they agree with.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

Not a stereotype, but the southern accent also just sucks. :)

Also they are bible thumping racists.

Also, you do know the southern accent is actually the one that still most closely resembles the English accents we used to have under British rule, that they now have over there today. The more you know.
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Balrog0 posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents

There are like three or four.
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Is Oklahoma southern?
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*looks at all demonstrable and measurable statistics coming out of southern states*

Gee I fucking wonder . . .
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents

There are like three or four.

Texas alone has 4. Louisiana has a few, Georgia and Alabama are similar but do have some distinct ones, Mississippi has their own, Florida has their own, the Carolinas have their own, Kentucky has their own, Tennessee has their own, the Virginia's have their own, and so on. There are distinct accents in literally every state in the country.
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SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Yes. Southern is determined by states in the US before the Civil War started, and below the Mason Dixon line.
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Is it just me or does Southerners also take no offense to their stereotypes?
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SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

a point of great contention in my experience
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Veggeta X posted...

Is it just me or does Southerners also take no offense to their stereotypes?

They become upset when you try to take their stereotypes away from them
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pres_madagascar posted...

SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Yes. Southern is determined by states in the US before the Civil War started, and below the Mason Dixon line.

That would make Maryland a southern state, and I know hardly anyone who believes that to be the case
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https://www.raycandersonfoundation.org/assets/images/HartzfeldFinalImg1.jpg

Everything in blue on this map, apart from Maryland and Delaware are still considered southern.

Missouri is a weird situation. It's both Midwestern and southern. Geographically it's Midwestern. It's above the Mason Dixon line, yet it was a confederate state, and to this day is more of a southern state than a Midwestern one despite being geographically Midwestern. The eastern and southern sides of the state are decidedly southern, the western and Northern parts are Midwestern. Missouri makes no sense. I grew up there lol.
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Balrog0 posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Yes. Southern is determined by states in the US before the Civil War started, and below the Mason Dixon line.

That would make Maryland a southern state, and I know hardly anyone who believes that to be the case

Look at what I just posted. Maryland and Delaware are no longer considered southern, and Missouri is a mess.
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SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Oh you bet it is.

pres_madagascar posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents

There are like three or four.

Texas alone has 4. Louisiana has a few, Georgia and Alabama are similar but do have some distinct ones, Mississippi has their own, Florida has their own, the Carolinas have their own, Kentucky has their own, Tennessee has their own, the Virginia's have their own, and so on. There are distinct accents in literally every state in the country.

Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi and the Florida panhandle all have the same southern accents. Louisiana is its own fucking jumbled mess. The Carolinas are basically people from Georgia who are closer to the ocean with some middle class midwesterners sprinkled in. The Virginias speak southern Cockney.
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"I hear that, where you come from, the men are men and the sheep are afraid."

the South historically was settled by poorer people of European descent predominantly mainly from GB and the Ulster region of Ireland (though sizable populations also came from France and Germany and other parts of modern day Western European states), boosted up by a huge imported African population sent to work as slaves, the region has been among the most politically unstable regions in American society due to the colorful Serf/Lordship governing style favored by much of her ruling class thus leading to some of the worst disaprities in American society and the rest of the Republic often shaking her head at the region because of this.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi and the Florida panhandle all have the same southern accents.

It's not even close for some of these. And there's more than one accent in Arkansas. The Delta and the Ozarks sound as different as New York and Boston
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I don't know remember which user it was but someone here said everyone he knew around him respected the confederate flag.
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While I do like to remind folks that there are good people down here too, the stereotypes apply to a lot if not most of the population.

As for accents, anywhere I've been throughout the south I've come into a wide array of different accents that I couldn't really apply to one specific region besides the southern Louisiana accent. Anywhere in the south you could go up to 10 different people and get 10 different accents.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Oh you bet it is.

pres_madagascar posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents

There are like three or four.

Texas alone has 4. Louisiana has a few, Georgia and Alabama are similar but do have some distinct ones, Mississippi has their own, Florida has their own, the Carolinas have their own, Kentucky has their own, Tennessee has their own, the Virginia's have their own, and so on. There are distinct accents in literally every state in the country.

Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi and the Florida panhandle all have the same southern accents. Louisiana is its own fucking jumbled mess. The Carolinas are basically people from Georgia who are closer to the ocean with some middle class midwesterners sprinkled in. The Virginias speak southern Cockney.

Nah bro. I've been all over the country, lots of different accents in every state, regardless of region. And Texas is its own fuckin country for the most part lol. Houston has a VERY different accent from San Antonio, for instance.
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Balrog0 posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi and the Florida panhandle all have the same southern accents.

It's not even close for some of these. And there's more than one accent in Arkansas. The Delta and the Ozarks sound as different as New York and Boston

yeah Coastal and Inland Southern accents sound almost nothing a like, I'm always semi surprised when I meet people from Non Coastal Ga how different their accents can sound.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Look at what I just posted. Maryland and Delaware are no longer considered southern, and Missouri is a mess.

I like this one:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-are-in-the-south/

First, the Southerners were considerably more certain of which states are their own. While the top few Midwest states barely pulled 80 percent of the vote, nearly 90 percent of respondents identified Georgia and Alabama as Southern, and more than 80 percent placed Mississippi and Louisiana in the South. South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida and North Carolina all garnered above 60 percent.

Southerners seem remarkably content to mess with Texas, giving it 57 percent support. Virginia, Arkansas and Kentucky hovered at about 50 percent.

Also, Maryland well and truly is not a Southern state, according to actual Southerners. It pulled a pathetic 6 percent of the vote. Thats worse than Arizona and New Mexico. Walter White is more Southern than a Marylander. Allow me to welcome you to the North, Maryland. Ive always loved your well-appointed Interstate 95 rest stops!

Consistent with a tradition of skepticism of the federal government, the South further disagrees with the census designation of whats in the South. In addition to Maryland, Oklahoma and West Virginia both pulled less than 25 percent support, despite the fact that the census says theyre the South. Take that, big government.

these results were surprising to me actually. WV largley isn't considered southern, which does fit historically with the whole pro union thing, but I perceive it was a pretty southern state. Just interesting to see the different thoughts on it
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Deadpool_18 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Stereotypes are fine as long as theyre about white people in red states

There are grains of truth in every stereotype. Its funny how picky some people are about which ones they agree with.

Most stereotypes are an accurate reflection of the average person within the group. No one person is likely to meet the stereotype, but the averages converge.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

SuperMedz3 posted...

Is Oklahoma southern?

Oh you bet it is.

pres_madagascar posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

the southern accent

there are many different southern accents

There are like three or four.

Texas alone has 4. Louisiana has a few, Georgia and Alabama are similar but do have some distinct ones, Mississippi has their own, Florida has their own, the Carolinas have their own, Kentucky has their own, Tennessee has their own, the Virginia's have their own, and so on. There are distinct accents in literally every state in the country.

Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi and the Florida panhandle all have the same southern accents. Louisiana is its own fucking jumbled mess. The Carolinas are basically people from Georgia who are closer to the ocean with some middle class midwesterners sprinkled in. The Virginias speak southern Cockney.

Nah bro. I've been all over the country, lots of different accents in every state, regardless of region. And Texas is its own fuckin country for the most part lol. Houston has a VERY different accent from San Antonio, for instance.

Ive been all across the country myself and worked several jobs where I get to hear pretty much every accent available. The differences in southern accents arent really that distinguishable and I guarantee the majority of southerners dont know or care about the subtle differences. They all stretch their words. The only notable different southern accent is Cajun.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Stereotypes are fine as long as theyre about white people in red states

There are grains of truth in every stereotype. Its funny how picky some people are about which ones they agree with.

Most stereotypes are an accurate reflection of the average person within the group. No one person is likely to meet the stereotype, but the averages converge.

Spot on.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Ive been all across the country myself and worked several jobs where I get to hear pretty much every accent available. The differences in southern accents arent really that distinguishable and I guarantee the majority of southerners dont know or care about the subtle differences. They all stretch their words. The only notable different southern accent is Cajun.

the differences aren't that subtle, but it is probably true that no one really cares about accents
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Highwind07 posted...

I hate how people equate the stereotypes of the South to people that are in the entire country when other countries make fun of us. They're true to an extent but not everyone is like that. If I say that Northerners are stereotypically A-holes then people would jump on me like white on rice but not for if I make fun of Southerners.

Nah. New Englanders actually are rude as fuck on average.
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Balrog0 posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

Look at what I just posted. Maryland and Delaware are no longer considered southern, and Missouri is a mess.

I like this one:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-are-in-the-south/

First, the Southerners were considerably more certain of which states are their own. While the top few Midwest states barely pulled 80 percent of the vote, nearly 90 percent of respondents identified Georgia and Alabama as Southern, and more than 80 percent placed Mississippi and Louisiana in the South. South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida and North Carolina all garnered above 60 percent.

Southerners seem remarkably content to mess with Texas, giving it 57 percent support. Virginia, Arkansas and Kentucky hovered at about 50 percent.

Also, Maryland well and truly is not a Southern state, according to actual Southerners. It pulled a pathetic 6 percent of the vote. Thats worse than Arizona and New Mexico. Walter White is more Southern than a Marylander. Allow me to welcome you to the North, Maryland. Ive always loved your well-appointed Interstate 95 rest stops!

Consistent with a tradition of skepticism of the federal government, the South further disagrees with the census designation of whats in the South. In addition to Maryland, Oklahoma and West Virginia both pulled less than 25 percent support, despite the fact that the census says theyre the South. Take that, big government.

these results were surprising to me actually. WV largley isn't considered southern, which does fit historically with the whole pro union thing, but I perceive it was a pretty southern state. Just interesting to see the different thoughts on it

The Appalachian hill folk are a whole different style of people from the rest of the south.

An interesting case is Cajuns and creole people.
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pres_madagascar posted...

The Appalachian hill folk are a whole different style of people from the rest of the south.

eh, I mean yes and no. The mountains stretch pretty far into more traditionally southern states (obviously KY, but also TN and NC and VA) and the mountain folk of the Ozarks also have similarities with the Appalachian clans
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Balrog0 posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

Ive been all across the country myself and worked several jobs where I get to hear pretty much every accent available. The differences in southern accents arent really that distinguishable and I guarantee the majority of southerners dont know or care about the subtle differences. They all stretch their words. The only notable different southern accent is Cajun.

the differences aren't that subtle, but it is probably true that no one really cares about accents

I had one guy actually get offended that I thought he was from Boston instead of New York because of his accent and I could not have been paid to care. Im from the south and it takes a conscious effort for me to avoid my southern drawl. People here wonder why I dont talk like them. People everywhere else wonder why I dont have a southern accent. Cant win.
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@Balrog0 would Northwest Arkansas be considered the Ozarks?
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coolboy11 posted...

@Balrog0 would Northwest Arkansas be considered the Ozarks?

yeah kinda, I'd say north central is more traditional ozark, though

NWA is different because there is a large share of non-southerners, even more than other cities in the south because there were so few people to begin with until the college + walmart started drawing people to the area
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I realize the topic kinda derailed into a discussion about speech, but I figured this topic needed some real talk

Southerners are way too passionate about bbq

A small southern town will have more churches than businesses

Southerners consider buffets and "sit-down" chain restaurants fine dining

Southern men never wear a suit to nothing. Blazer and tie maybe, but usually you get people thinking a polo is dressing up

Mudding
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Alkaloid posted...

Southern men never wear a suit to nothing. Blazer and tie maybe, but usually you get people thinking a polo is dressing up

this is highly stratified by age and class, there are still some southern men who go out in seersucker pinstriped suits and flat straw hats in the summer
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Alkaloid posted...

I realize the topic kinda derailed into a discussion about speech, but I figured this topic needed some real talk

Southerners are way too passionate about bbq

A small southern town will have more churches than businesses

Southerners consider buffets and "sit-down" chain restaurants fine dining

Southern men never wear a suit to nothing. Blazer and tie maybe, but usually you get people thinking a polo is dressing up

Mudding

Mudding?
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Mudding is a pastime wherein a group of people (usually a dude and his bros, but occasionally chicks will come along too) go driving at high speed through mud puddles in trucks (or jeeps or "four-wheelers"/ATVs) with oversize tires

It's the kinda thing you do when your town doesn't have bars or movie theaters
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Alkaloid posted...

Mudding is a pastime wherein a group of people (usually a dude and his bros, but occasionally chicks will come along too) go driving at high speed through mud puddles in trucks (or jeeps or "four-wheelers"/ATVs) with oversize tires

It's the kinda thing you do when your town doesn't have bars or movie theaters

Uh...huh...
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Alkaloid posted...

I realize the topic kinda derailed into a discussion about speech, but I figured this topic needed some real talk

Southerners are way too passionate about bbq

A small southern town will have more churches than businesses

Southerners consider buffets and "sit-down" chain restaurants fine dining

Southern men never wear a suit to nothing. Blazer and tie maybe, but usually you get people thinking a polo is dressing up

Mudding

Accurate
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