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nemu 09/14/18 2:33:34 PM #254:	shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman. <cite>nemu posted [p:908751138] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonves4Prison 09/14/18 2:34:13 PM #255:	shockthemonkey posted... Moonves4Prison posted... shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why would a "transphobic" person even try to have sex with a trans person? ...you cant be serious, given the topic youre posting in He seems to be imaging a scenario where a "transphobic" person lies about being "transphobic" in order to get a person he knows to be trans to have sex with him. --- https://youtu.be/veNG0jbGz9Q https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls <cite>Moonves4Prison posted [p:908751174] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonves4Prison posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why would a "transphobic" person even try to have sex with a trans person?</quote> ...you cant be serious, given the topic youre posting in</quote> He seems to be imaging a scenario where a "transphobic" person lies about being "transphobic" in order to get a person he knows to be trans to have sex with him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/14/18 2:35:08 PM #256:	SaithSayer posted... I'd like to see your opinion the next time people react violently towards members of the Westboro Baptist Church when they picket something. I never condone violence, period. I won't feel bad for them, though, because having a hateful opinion is leagues different than being transgender. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908751215] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see your opinion the next time people react violently towards members of the Westboro Baptist Church when they picket something.</quote> I never condone violence, period. I won't feel bad for them, though, because having a hateful opinion is leagues different than being transgender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/14/18 2:36:11 PM #257:	DarkProto05 posted... What I'm talking about is a hypothetical situation. And that's my issue. You're imagining a scenario in order to justify violence. I think that's the wrong way to take a topic like this. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908751282] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>What I'm talking about is a hypothetical situation.</quote> And that's my issue. You're imagining a scenario in order to justify violence. I think that's the wrong way to take a topic like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkProto05 09/14/18 2:39:44 PM #259:	CyricZ posted... DarkProto05 posted... What I'm talking about is a hypothetical situation. And that's my issue. You're imagining a scenario in order to justify violence. I think that's the wrong way to take a topic like this. The guy in the video should be booked for assault. I'm not refuting that. As rare as my hypothetical is it can happen, and I'm just trying to get people to see that it's wrong. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908751479] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>What I'm talking about is a hypothetical situation.</quote> And that's my issue. You're imagining a scenario in order to justify violence. I think that's the wrong way to take a topic like this.</quote> The guy in the video should be booked for assault. I'm not refuting that. As rare as my hypothetical is it can happen, and I'm just trying to get people to see that it's wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 2:40:40 PM #260:	DarkProto05 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DarkProto05 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DarkProto05 posted... we have no right to the truth. But we do. You literally don't. That's literally wrong and laws need to get enacted that make that sexual assault. If you have sex with a person and you are under the impression that they're from Sweden but they're actually from Norway is that rape by deception? Or does this stupid thing you've made up in your mind only matter when there's a trans person invovled. You're comparing country of origin to being cis or trans. It's really creepy how you're justifying lying to someone to get sex. Says a lot about what you're capable of IRL. Get help. So the only time ever that "lying" is rape is if the person who lies does so about the fact that they're transgender. I'm sure this insane logic of yours has nothing at all to do with your personal feelings of trans people. Its just coincidence that your worldview would label them and only them rapists for lack of disclosing information before sex. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908751531] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>we have no right to the truth. But we do.</quote> You literally don't.</quote> That's literally wrong and laws need to get enacted that make that sexual assault.</quote> If you have sex with a person and you are under the impression that they're from Sweden but they're actually from Norway is that rape by deception? Or does this stupid thing you've made up in your mind only matter when there's a trans person invovled.</quote> You're comparing country of origin to being cis or trans. It's really creepy how you're justifying lying to someone to get sex. Says a lot about what you're capable of IRL. Get help.</quote> So the only time ever that "lying" is rape is if the person who lies does so about the fact that they're transgender. I'm sure this insane logic of yours has nothing at all to do with your personal feelings of trans people. Its just coincidence that your worldview would label them and only them rapists for lack of disclosing information before sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 09/14/18 2:41:15 PM #262:	Moonves4Prison posted... Relevant to the topic: https://www.newsweek.com/man-arrested-faking-down-syndrome-and-hiring-caretakers-bathe-him-change-his-1121462 Disagree. This case was predicated on fraud of a business transaction. Sexual abuse was added as a rider to the charges because the man used the job of these women to initiate sexual contact. A dating encounter contains none of that. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908751571] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonves4Prison posted...</cite> <quote>Relevant to the topic: https://www.newsweek.com/man-arrested-faking-down-syndrome-and-hiring-caretakers-bathe-him-change-his-1121462</quote> Disagree. This case was predicated on fraud of a business transaction. Sexual abuse was added as a rider to the charges because the man used the job of these women to initiate sexual contact. A dating encounter contains none of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonves4Prison 09/14/18 2:42:28 PM #263:	CyricZ posted... Moonves4Prison posted... Relevant to the topic: https://www.newsweek.com/man-arrested-faking-down-syndrome-and-hiring-caretakers-bathe-him-change-his-1121462 Disagree. Well, opinions are like assholes. --- https://youtu.be/veNG0jbGz9Q https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls <cite>Moonves4Prison posted [p:908751630] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonves4Prison posted...</cite> <quote>Relevant to the topic: https://www.newsweek.com/man-arrested-faking-down-syndrome-and-hiring-caretakers-bathe-him-change-his-1121462</quote> Disagree. </quote> Well, opinions are like assholes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 09/14/18 2:42:46 PM #264:	CyricZ posted... SaithSayer posted... I'd like to see your opinion the next time people react violently towards members of the Westboro Baptist Church when they picket something. I never condone violence, period. I won't feel bad for them, though, because having a hateful opinion is leagues different than being transgender. Just like it's different for someone trans to say "I have the genitals you probably aren't interested in." at the BEGINNING rather than just waiting for them to figure it out on their own. People need to be upfront about stuff. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:908751650] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see your opinion the next time people react violently towards members of the Westboro Baptist Church when they picket something.</quote> I never condone violence, period. I won't feel bad for them, though, because having a hateful opinion is leagues different than being transgender.</quote> Just like it's different for someone trans to say "I have the genitals you probably aren't interested in." at the BEGINNING rather than just waiting for them to figure it out on their own. People need to be upfront about stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/14/18 2:44:00 PM #265:	DarkProto05 posted... As rare as my hypothetical is it can happen, and I'm just trying to get people to see that it's wrong. I mean, congrats I guess. You've created a horrible situation. Unfortunately, in a topic like this, you have to deal with what really happened, and what really happened is that we have another example of people treating being transgender as being deceptive and committing violence over it, like we've seen over and over again as a cycle of hatred and insecurity. That's the reality of the world: a history of unjustifiable violence against transgender people. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908751724] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>As rare as my hypothetical is it can happen, and I'm just trying to get people to see that it's wrong.</quote> I mean, congrats I guess. You've created a horrible situation. Unfortunately, in a topic like this, you have to deal with what really happened, and what really happened is that we have another example of people treating being transgender as being deceptive and committing violence over it, like we've seen over and over again as a cycle of hatred and insecurity. That's the reality of the world: a history of unjustifiable violence against transgender people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/14/18 2:47:29 PM #266:	NibeIungsnarf posted... DarkProto05 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DarkProto05 posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... DarkProto05 posted... we have no right to the truth. But we do. You literally don't. That's literally wrong and laws need to get enacted that make that sexual assault. If you have sex with a person and you are under the impression that they're from Sweden but they're actually from Norway is that rape by deception? Or does this stupid thing you've made up in your mind only matter when there's a trans person invovled. You're comparing country of origin to being cis or trans. It's really creepy how you're justifying lying to someone to get sex. Says a lot about what you're capable of IRL. Get help. So the only time ever that "lying" is rape is if the person who lies does so about the fact that they're transgender. I'm sure this insane logic of yours has nothing at all to do with your personal feelings of trans people. Its just coincidence that your worldview would label them and only them rapists for lack of disclosing information before sex. Dude quit being insecure. Stop playing the anti trans victim card. Trans people are people just like everyone else and they have rights and deserve respect. But no one has to fuck them. You think you're owed sex because you exist. That's insecure and incel like thinking. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908751929] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>we have no right to the truth. But we do.</quote> You literally don't.</quote> That's literally wrong and laws need to get enacted that make that sexual assault.</quote> If you have sex with a person and you are under the impression that they're from Sweden but they're actually from Norway is that rape by deception? Or does this stupid thing you've made up in your mind only matter when there's a trans person invovled.</quote> You're comparing country of origin to being cis or trans. It's really creepy how you're justifying lying to someone to get sex. Says a lot about what you're capable of IRL. Get help.</quote> So the only time ever that "lying" is rape is if the person who lies does so about the fact that they're transgender. I'm sure this insane logic of yours has nothing at all to do with your personal feelings of trans people. Its just coincidence that your worldview would label them and only them rapists for lack of disclosing information before sex.</quote> Dude quit being insecure. Stop playing the anti trans victim card. Trans people are people just like everyone else and they have rights and deserve respect. But no one has to fuck them. You think you're owed sex because you exist. That's insecure and incel like thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 09/14/18 2:48:50 PM #268:	shockthemonkey posted... nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman. No one cares about your deflection How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration. <cite>nemu posted [p:908751999] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman.</quote> No one cares about your deflection</quote> How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 2:52:55 PM #269:	DarkProto05 posted... Trans people are people just like everyone else and they have rights and deserve respect. And the title of rapist for being trans according to you. DarkProto05 posted... But no one has to fuck them. You think you're owed sex because you exist. That's insecure and incel like thinking. Topic about trans people being assaulted "YEAH BUT WHY DO TRANS PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO MY BODY I HAVE RIGHTS" This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908752260] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>Trans people are people just like everyone else and they have rights and deserve respect.</quote> And the title of rapist for being trans according to you. <cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>But no one has to fuck them. You think you're owed sex because you exist. That's insecure and incel like thinking.</quote> Topic about trans people being assaulted "YEAH BUT WHY DO TRANS PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO MY BODY I HAVE RIGHTS" This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/14/18 2:54:49 PM #270:	NibeIungsnarf posted... This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle. This is what I'm trying to imply of him, at least a little more gently. Taking the very real issue of violence against transgender people and trying to concoct a method whereby it might be justified is a fucking claxon to me. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908752373] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle.</quote> This is what I'm trying to imply of him, at least a little more gently. Taking the very real issue of violence against transgender people and trying to concoct a method whereby it might be justified is a fucking claxon to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/14/18 2:56:31 PM #271:	It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion. You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Last I heard it's not okay for anyone to do this. Trans people do not get a free pass. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908752479] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote>It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion. You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Last I heard it's not okay for anyone to do this. Trans people do not get a free pass. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonves4Prison 09/14/18 2:56:46 PM #272:	DarkProto05 posted... It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion. You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy. --- https://youtu.be/veNG0jbGz9Q https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls <cite>Moonves4Prison posted [p:908752493] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion. You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 09/14/18 2:58:11 PM #274:	shockthemonkey posted... GregShmedley posted... shockthemonkey posted... Im talking about a transphobic person doesnt make himself known to be transphobic and a trans person doesnt make themselves known to be trans. You know, that thing thats been discussed all topic? Please tell me you are trolling. You can't possibly believe this. People gotta either take responsibility for for who they are or they dont - you cant have it both ways just because eww trans people. nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman. No one cares about your deflection How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration. You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose. My dealbreakers are women with a penis --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:908752582] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Im talking about a transphobic person doesnt make himself known to be transphobic and a trans person doesnt make themselves known to be trans. You know, that thing thats been discussed all topic?</quote> Please tell me you are trolling. You can't possibly believe this.</quote> People gotta either take responsibility for for who they are or they dont - you cant have it both ways just because eww trans people. <cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman.</quote> No one cares about your deflection</quote> How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration.</quote> You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose.</quote> My dealbreakers are women with a penis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 2:58:37 PM #275:	DarkProto05 posted... It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion Literally lies you made up to justify violence against trans people DarkProto05 posted... You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy. Trans people can "trick and lie to people to obtain sex" in so far as anyone can. You want to make it rape specifically for trans people to do so but nobody else. I'm sure you're not a bad person who hates trans people just because you want to label them rapists just for being trans. DarkProto05 posted... Last I heard it's not okay for anyone to do this. I literally just came up with a hypothetical of a non trans person doing it and you said it was okay. You are a fucking liar <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908752609] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a deflection. And it has a lot to do with the discussion</quote> Literally lies you made up to justify violence against trans people <cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>You literally said trans people can trick and lie to people to obtain sex. Thinking you're owed sex is super creepy.</quote> Trans people can "trick and lie to people to obtain sex" in so far as anyone can. You want to make it rape specifically for trans people to do so but nobody else. I'm sure you're not a bad person who hates trans people just because you want to label them rapists just for being trans. <cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>Last I heard it's not okay for anyone to do this.</quote> I literally just came up with a hypothetical of a non trans person doing it and you said it was okay. You are a fucking liar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/14/18 2:58:55 PM #276:	thelovefist posted... My dealbreakers are women with a penis I do hope you inform every woman you meet of this and wish you the best of luck. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908752624] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>My dealbreakers are women with a penis </quote> I do hope you inform every woman you meet of this and wish you the best of luck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonves4Prison 09/14/18 2:59:06 PM #277:	thelovefist posted... My dealbreakers are women with a penis This as well as men who used to have a penis and, well, men in general. --- https://youtu.be/veNG0jbGz9Q https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls <cite>Moonves4Prison posted [p:908752636] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>My dealbreakers are women with a penis</quote> This as well as men who used to have a penis and, well, men in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MEGAze 09/14/18 3:03:00 PM #280:	She should've said so. --- Rebel Of Da New https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg2lOKsP_Be8iE9Zops9oOw <cite>MEGAze posted [p:908752898] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote>She should've said so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 09/14/18 3:05:11 PM #281:	shockthemonkey posted... GregShmedley posted... shockthemonkey posted... People gotta either take responsibility for for who they are or they dont - you cant have it both ways just because eww trans people. There is a huge difference between withholding that you are transphobic and withholding that you are trans yourself. I'm under the impression you believe people who don't want to fuck someone who is trans = transphobia. I dont care who wants to fuck trans people, but its dishonest as fuck to say nu uh my dealbreaker is important but theirs isnt. What exactly is their dealbreaker? --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:908753045] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>People gotta either take responsibility for for who they are or they dont - you cant have it both ways just because eww trans people.</quote> There is a huge difference between withholding that you are transphobic and withholding that you are trans yourself. I'm under the impression you believe people who don't want to fuck someone who is trans = transphobia.</quote> I dont care who wants to fuck trans people, but its dishonest as fuck to say nu uh my dealbreaker is important but theirs isnt.</quote> What exactly is their dealbreaker?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/14/18 3:05:32 PM #282:	nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman. No one cares about your deflection How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration. You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose. No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things. Regardless of how someone feels about the whole "people are what they say they are" mentality, it does not change the fact that there is an opposite set of genitals or a surgically modified set of genitals in their pants. <cite>nemu posted [p:908753063] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman.</quote> No one cares about your deflection</quote> How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration.</quote> You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose.</quote> No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things. Regardless of how someone feels about the whole "people are what they say they are" mentality, it does not change the fact that there is an opposite set of genitals or a surgically modified set of genitals in their pants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkProto05 09/14/18 3:06:29 PM #284:	CyricZ posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle. This is what I'm trying to imply of him, at least a little more gently. Taking the very real issue of violence against transgender people and trying to concoct a method whereby it might be justified is a fucking claxon to me. He's just trolling but you're a serious poster capable of good unbiased discussion. You've made good points and while I don't agree with every single thing you post, I respect most of what you post. It's a shame that you stooped to the anti-trans victim card like him. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908753112] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>This is a weird deflection and honestly considering how common it is depsite never having anything to do with anything I'm beginning to think its a transphobic dog whistle.</quote> This is what I'm trying to imply of him, at least a little more gently. Taking the very real issue of violence against transgender people and trying to concoct a method whereby it might be justified is a fucking claxon to me.</quote> He's just trolling but you're a serious poster capable of good unbiased discussion. You've made good points and while I don't agree with every single thing you post, I respect most of what you post. It's a shame that you stooped to the anti-trans victim card like him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bumjuice001 09/14/18 3:06:30 PM #285:	Its deceptive. The guy shouldnt attacked her, but this is something that shouldve been disclosed prior. Biologically, shes is a man. She was born male, and her DNA is male. Both parties are in the wrong. Assault. Both sexual and physical. --- If you can take a ****, you can probably take a joke <cite>Bumjuice001 posted [p:908753113] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote>Its deceptive. The guy shouldnt attacked her, but this is something that shouldve been disclosed prior. Biologically, shes is a man. She was born male, and her DNA is male. Both parties are in the wrong. Assault. Both sexual and physical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 3:07:14 PM #287:	nemu posted... No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things There's literally no logic behind this position other than "Yeah but there's more of me so I have more rights than you!" <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908753161] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things</quote> There's literally no logic behind this position other than "Yeah but there's more of me so I have more rights than you!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProbablyaCat 09/14/18 3:08:56 PM #290:	"Assault is wrong. However, I think you should tell your partners you're transgender ahead of time" "WOW OK SO YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR MURDER, RIGHT?" <cite>ProbablyaCat posted [p:908753283] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote>"Assault is wrong. However, I think you should tell your partners you're transgender ahead of time" "WOW OK SO YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR MURDER, RIGHT?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 3:08:56 PM #291:	DarkProto05 posted... He's just trolling In what way am I trolling? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908753284] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>He's just trolling</quote> In what way am I trolling?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 09/14/18 3:10:55 PM #292:	GregShmedley posted... I'm under the impression you believe people who don't want to fuck someone who is trans = transphobia. Many users here believe this. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:908753407] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I'm under the impression you believe people who don't want to fuck someone who is trans = transphobia.</quote> Many users here believe this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/14/18 3:11:21 PM #293:	NibeIungsnarf posted... nemu posted... No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things There's literally no logic behind this position other than "Yeah but there's more of me so I have more rights than you!" It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made. <cite>nemu posted [p:908753439] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things</quote> There's literally no logic behind this position other than "Yeah but there's more of me so I have more rights than you!"</quote> It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 3:13:31 PM #294:	nemu posted... It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made. It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them. It's illlogical and stupid and most people dont accept this moronic excuse for reasoning on any other subject. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908753569] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made.</quote> It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them. It's illlogical and stupid and most people dont accept this moronic excuse for reasoning on any other subject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 09/14/18 3:14:10 PM #295:	NibeIungsnarf posted... nemu posted... It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made. It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them. It's illlogical and stupid and most people dont accept this moronic excuse for reasoning on any other subject. Shut the fuck up --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:908753612] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made.</quote> It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them. It's illlogical and stupid and most people dont accept this moronic excuse for reasoning on any other subject.</quote> Shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonves4Prison 09/14/18 3:15:19 PM #296:	NibeIungsnarf posted... nemu posted... It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made. It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cls8ZURQRK4" data-time=" --- https://youtu.be/veNG0jbGz9Q https://youtu.be/VWqACvTknls <cite>Moonves4Prison posted [p:908753676] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>It's not that hard. Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. There are people who are fine with sleeping with one, the other, or both. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there are people who don't want to do so means the people who have such characteristics should be letting all partners know so no mistakes are made.</quote> It's not hard. You want non-trans people to have more rights than trans people because there are more of them.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cls8ZURQRK4" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/14/18 3:15:33 PM #297:	shockthemonkey posted... nemu posted... nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... nemu posted... shockthemonkey posted... If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count? Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman. No one cares about your deflection How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration. You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose. No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things. Regardless of how someone feels about the whole "people are what they say they are" mentality, it does not change the fact that there is an opposite set of genitals or a surgically modified set of genitals in their pants. Accept some personal responsibility instead of assuming everyone should read your damn mind. That's dumb. Just because someone is physically convincing, or alcohol fills in the gap, does not change that they're a trans person. This idea that "they found them attractive so it's ok" is leaning very close to certain other statements. Hormone therapy and plastic surgery are only going to get better and better from here on out. It doesn't change the fact that they have the body of a man or a woman. <cite>nemu posted [p:908753693] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>If a trans woman didnt want to have sex with a transphobic asshole, can she claim rape if a dude didnt tell her he was a transphobic asshole beforehand? Or does that not count?</quote> Why do people try to act like having the physical characteristics of another sex is at all the same as someones thoughts and opinions? You do realize a trans person will always be a trans person, right? Just because I will gladly call a trans woman she does not mean shes not a trans woman.</quote> No one cares about your deflection</quote> How is pointing out a false equivalence a deflection? There is a big difference between thoughts and words and a cosmetic physical alteration.</quote> You either have a responsibility to tell strangers your dealbreakers or you dont. Youre trying to pick and choose.</quote> No, considering the majority of the population is not going to want to be with a trans person, they are the ones who need to disclose things. Regardless of how someone feels about the whole "people are what they say they are" mentality, it does not change the fact that there is an opposite set of genitals or a surgically modified set of genitals in their pants.</quote> Accept some personal responsibility instead of assuming everyone should read your damn mind.</quote> That's dumb. Just because someone is physically convincing, or alcohol fills in the gap, does not change that they're a trans person. This idea that "they found them attractive so it's ok" is leaning very close to certain other statements. Hormone therapy and plastic surgery are only going to get better and better from here on out. It doesn't change the fact that they have the body of a man or a woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 09/14/18 3:20:59 PM #299:	nemu posted... Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. Lot of assumptions here. I'm of the "don't knock it until you've tried it" type. I have my preferences, certainly, but claiming that you understand the complex nature of sexuality for the majority of 7 billion people, some aspects they're not willing to admit to themselves, is a bit arrogant. Encountering a trans person is pretty rare, certainly, so you ask yourself the question, "Is this worth a try?" If the answer is no, then be on your way and life goes on. It goes back to the question: did this man attack this trans woman: 1) Because she lied? or 2) Because he initially felt attraction for her and the fact that she turned out to be trans was so abhorrent to his sensibilities that violence was the answer he came to cope with the revelation? Of course, we'll never know the truth, but the fact that people lie to each other every day and we don't have assault charges up the butt for that leads to assume one more than the other. Still, it's just an assumption. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:908754046] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. </quote> Lot of assumptions here. I'm of the "don't knock it until you've tried it" type. I have my preferences, certainly, but claiming that you understand the complex nature of sexuality for the majority of 7 billion people, some aspects they're not willing to admit to themselves, is a bit arrogant. Encountering a trans person is pretty rare, certainly, so you ask yourself the question, "Is this worth a try?" If the answer is no, then be on your way and life goes on. It goes back to the question: did this man attack this trans woman: 1) Because she lied? or 2) Because he initially felt attraction for her and the fact that she turned out to be trans was so abhorrent to his sensibilities that violence was the answer he came to cope with the revelation? Of course, we'll never know the truth, but the fact that people lie to each other every day and we don't have assault charges up the butt for that leads to assume one more than the other. Still, it's just an assumption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/14/18 3:29:41 PM #300:	CyricZ posted... nemu posted... Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. Lot of assumptions here. I'm of the "don't knock it until you've tried it" type. I have my preferences, certainly, but claiming that you understand the complex nature of sexuality for the majority of 7 billion people, some aspects they're not willing to admit to themselves, is a bit arrogant. Encountering a trans person is pretty rare, certainly, so you ask yourself the question, "Is this worth a try?" If the answer is no, then be on your way and life goes on. It goes back to the question: did this man attack this trans woman: 1) Because she lied? or 2) Because he initially felt attraction for her and the fact that she turned out to be trans was so abhorrent to his sensibilities that violence was the answer he came to cope with the revelation? Of course, we'll never know the truth, but the fact that people lie to each other every day and we don't have assault charges up the butt for that leads to assume one more than the other. Still, it's just an assumption. It's basic human biology. I don't know why you're getting so uppity about it. There are people who don't care at all, but most people are going to care. The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here. I don't agree with the violence, though I do think she could have done the reasonable thing to avoid it (as in don't walk down a high crime neighborhood with money 100s hanging out of your pockets), but I do agree with his anger. Being trans comes with a physical change. That is a big no-go for many people. <cite>nemu posted [p:908754579] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote> Most men aren't going to want to sleep with someone who has ever had a penis. Most women aren't going to want to sleep with anyone who has ever had a vagina. </quote> Lot of assumptions here. I'm of the "don't knock it until you've tried it" type. I have my preferences, certainly, but claiming that you understand the complex nature of sexuality for the majority of 7 billion people, some aspects they're not willing to admit to themselves, is a bit arrogant. Encountering a trans person is pretty rare, certainly, so you ask yourself the question, "Is this worth a try?" If the answer is no, then be on your way and life goes on. It goes back to the question: did this man attack this trans woman: 1) Because she lied? or 2) Because he initially felt attraction for her and the fact that she turned out to be trans was so abhorrent to his sensibilities that violence was the answer he came to cope with the revelation? Of course, we'll never know the truth, but the fact that people lie to each other every day and we don't have assault charges up the butt for that leads to assume one more than the other. Still, it's just an assumption.</quote> It's basic human biology. I don't know why you're getting so uppity about it. There are people who don't care at all, but most people are going to care. The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here. I don't agree with the violence, though I do think she could have done the reasonable thing to avoid it (as in don't walk down a high crime neighborhood with money 100s hanging out of your pockets), but I do agree with his anger. Being trans comes with a physical change. That is a big no-go for many people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 3:31:36 PM #301:	nemu posted... The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here. It is the worthless and stupid point you people are holding on to to defend your inane position, I agree. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908754703] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here.</quote> It is the worthless and stupid point you people are holding on to to defend your inane position, I agree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 09/14/18 3:33:28 PM #302:	NibeIungsnarf posted... nemu posted... The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here. It is the worthless and stupid point you people are holding on to to defend your inane position, I agree. "My rights are more important than yours because I'm oppressed" --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:908754812] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that the majority of people are going to care is the major point here.</quote> It is the worthless and stupid point you people are holding on to to defend your inane position, I agree.</quote> "My rights are more important than yours because I'm oppressed"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 09/14/18 3:34:40 PM #303:	You're the one who wants trans-people who do the exact same thing as non-trans people labelled as rapists just for being trans. "because there's more of us non-trans people" <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:908754890] in Man angril... [t:77000211]...</cite> <quote>You're the one who wants trans-people who do the exact same thing as non-trans people labelled as rapists just for being trans. "because there's more of us non-trans people"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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