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Axiom
09/14/18 1:27:01 PM
#153:


DuranOfForcena posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Thats such a fucked up way of looking at the world,

nope, it's the way normal people look at the world.

shockthemonkey posted...
no wonder youre taking the side of the dude who attacked a woman.

i'm taking the side of the dude who attacked a man, yeah. not because he attacked him though. that's an important distinction to make. i'm not defending his getting violent. but i'm also not delusional enough to think that transgenders should be able or allowed to deceive people in this way and not expect some consequences.

yWJ6jWp

"I'm taking the side of the violent attacker and saying she shouldn't get away without consequences but I'm not defending the violence"

Lol what
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The23rdMagus
09/14/18 1:29:41 PM
#154:


DuranOfForcena posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Thats such a fucked up way of looking at the world,

nope, it's the way normal people look at the world.

shockthemonkey posted...
no wonder youre taking the side of the dude who attacked a woman.

i'm taking the side of the dude who attacked a man, yeah. not because he attacked him though. that's an important distinction to make. i'm not defending his getting violent. but i'm also not delusional enough to think that transgenders should be able or allowed to deceive people in this way and not expect some consequences.

This is a perfect example that there are still things wrong with the world that we need to improve on and grow past (including the insistent disrespectful misgendering of people).

and also including the insistent disrespect against cisgenders of this fucking stupid SJW bullshit narrative of claiming that transgenders have a right to deceive people and get away with it without any consequences or repercussions whatsoever

While I agree that a dealbreaker can end a date like any other, there is absolutely zero justification for it to get violent. Ever.

It's a thing you talk about, not a thing you lash out over.
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_Krave_
09/14/18 1:30:45 PM
#155:


I'd be upset too.
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:32:28 PM
#157:


Do we have to start saying penisexual and vaginasexual so people know what you want?
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:32:57 PM
#159:


DuranOfForcena posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
this fucking stupid SJW bullshit narrative of claiming that transgenders have a right to deceive people and get away with it without any consequences or repercussions whatsoever

So trans people getting beat up and murdered are just a natural consequence of their actions to you.

i'm only acknowledging that it has happened before and will happen again. that is an objective fact. and it happens when they don't tell a prospective partner that they are transgender. if they don't want to get beaten up for not disclosing they are transgender, then the solution seems mind-numbingly fucking obvious to me: DON'T HIDE OR LIE ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TRANSGENDER.

Is this a "he didn't use the n-word so he can't be racist" thing?

Like you're refusing to say the exact words "I support transgender people being beaten and murdered" but you're so fucking close that its obvious what your feelings on the matter are.
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3rd_Best_Master
09/14/18 1:33:20 PM
#160:


DuranOfForcena posted...
and also including the insistent disrespect against cisgenders of this f***ing stupid SJW bulls*** narrative of claiming that transgenders have a right to deceive people and get away with it without any consequences or repercussions whatsoever

If you can't control your temper or emotions then that's on you, not the other person.

If you can't control yourself when drunk, don't get drunk.
If you can't control your anger when behind the wheel, don't drive.
If you can't control your outbursts at the possibility of being around transgender sexual partners, then disclose that shit so you don't get anyone hurt.

Nobody has an obligation to be on the lookout for the worst impulses of other people, that belongs solely in the realm of the person with the impulse issue. Don't blame other people because you can't control yourself. Her having the obligation to disclose her status has no bearing on you keeping your hands to yourself.
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:34:46 PM
#161:


If you get someone to make out with you and all of that and then later on you're all "Hey look! I've got a johnson!" then be ready for anything. I'm not saying it's right but... any adult of any gender should know this.
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Manocheese
09/14/18 1:41:47 PM
#163:


catboy0_0 posted...
RIP man angrily at the realization shot up to 97 genders

LMFAO
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Mist_Turnips
09/14/18 1:41:57 PM
#164:


That's what happens when you dont reveal you're a trap card.
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3rd_Best_Master
09/14/18 1:42:46 PM
#166:


DuranOfForcena posted...
and where in the f*** would you get the notion that this is what i'm really saying when i am literally giving the objectively best way for women to not be raped?

Yeah sorry bro, victim blaming isn't cool.
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The23rdMagus
09/14/18 1:43:35 PM
#167:


DuranOfForcena posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Thats such a fucked up way of looking at the world,

nope, it's the way normal people look at the world.

shockthemonkey posted...
no wonder youre taking the side of the dude who attacked a woman.

i'm taking the side of the dude who attacked a man, yeah. not because he attacked him though. that's an important distinction to make. i'm not defending his getting violent. but i'm also not delusional enough to think that transgenders should be able or allowed to deceive people in this way and not expect some consequences.

This is a perfect example that there are still things wrong with the world that we need to improve on and grow past (including the insistent disrespectful misgendering of people).

and also including the insistent disrespect against cisgenders of this fucking stupid SJW bullshit narrative of claiming that transgenders have a right to deceive people and get away with it without any consequences or repercussions whatsoever

While I agree that a dealbreaker can end a date like any other, there is absolutely zero justification for it to get violent. Ever.

It's a thing you talk about, not a thing you lash out over.

like i said, i'm not defending the violence. there is no justification for it, i agree. but at the same time i am capable of recognizing objectively that it does happen, and will happen again, and that the cause of it happening is the transgender person not disclosing that they are transgender. that is the only cause. if they disclosed the fact that they are transgender before anything happened, then there would have been no violence.

The cause of the violence is the violent person.

I know this might sound like some pie-in-the-sky idealist SJW bullshit soyboy beta cuck idea, but what if people are taught not to react violently to things that don't require violence? What if we're taught to better express our thoughts and emotions instead of blowing up and having violent meltdowns when something finally reaches a tipping point?
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:45:26 PM
#169:


What about not intentionally deceiving people and then pretending to be confused as to why shit went down?

"What? How was I supposed to know that lying about myself would cause anger?"

That person wanted to dupe someone and laugh about it later while getting off scot free.
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The23rdMagus
09/14/18 1:45:49 PM
#170:


DuranOfForcena posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Yeah sorry bro, victim blaming isn't cool.

not the same situation at all. transgenders who get beaten up because they didn't disclose to a sexual partner that they are transgender willfully engaged in an act of deception, one that is recognized as illegal in some jurisdictions. the consequences are on them.

You are attempting to justify violence. Are you sure that's what you want to imply here?
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Knowledge_King
09/14/18 1:47:43 PM
#171:


The23rdMagus posted...
The cause of the violence is the violent person.


Nah. People get violent for all kinds of good reasons. Causes for violence can be words, actions, intent, etc. Acting like only the violent person is the cause is disingenuous and completely wrong.
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Bloodychess
09/14/18 1:47:52 PM
#172:


SaithSayer posted...
What about not intentionally deceiving people and then pretending to be confused as to why shit went down?

"What? How was I supposed to know that lying about myself would cause anger?"

That person wanted to dupe someone and laugh about it later while getting off scot free.


How about this.

Condemn people that deceive others in situations like this.
Condemn using violence against said deceivers.

I seriously don't know why this is so hard
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:48:02 PM
#173:


DuranOfForcena posted...
not the same situation at all. transgenders who get beaten up because they didn't disclose to a sexual partner that they are transgender willfully engaged in an act of deception, one that is recognized as illegal in some jurisdictions. the consequences are on them.

You are a horrible person who wants to see transgendered peoples lives endangered because you support trashy people being so insecure about themselves that they turn to violence instead of saying "no thanks bye"
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Roshon
09/14/18 1:48:20 PM
#174:


If a trans man didnt tell me hed trans and has a pussy before we went down I wouldnt be mad at all. And Ive never seen this situation with gay men or heterosexual women.

Seems like only heterosexual men have insecurity and anger issue when it comes to trans women.
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3rd_Best_Master
09/14/18 1:49:26 PM
#176:


DuranOfForcena posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Yeah sorry bro, victim blaming isn't cool.

not the same situation at all. transgenders who get beaten up because they didn't disclose to a sexual partner that they are transgender willfully engaged in an act of deception, one that is recognized as illegal in some jurisdictions. the consequences are on them.

That's what authority figures are for. Take your grievances to the courts, don't slug it out on the streets. Someone doing something that makes you uncomfortable isn't an excuse to escalate and assault them.
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Bloodychess
09/14/18 1:49:58 PM
#178:


Roshon posted...
Seems like only heterosexual men have insecurity


The party that doesn't hide important sexual details purposefully is the insecure one, sure.
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:50:15 PM
#179:


Bloodychess posted...
SaithSayer posted...
What about not intentionally deceiving people and then pretending to be confused as to why shit went down?

"What? How was I supposed to know that lying about myself would cause anger?"

That person wanted to dupe someone and laugh about it later while getting off scot free.


How about this.

Condemn people that deceive others in situations like this.
Condemn using violence against said deceivers.

I seriously don't know why this is so hard

How about this?

I don't think people should legally be allowed to kill others, but if someone murdered someone's family member and another person in that family killed the killer...I'd have a really hard time being sad about it. I wouldn't think they should get away with it, but I wouldn't be upset about what went down.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:50:40 PM
#180:


Bloodychess posted...


How about this.

Condemn people that deceive others in situations like this.
Condemn using violence against said deceivers.

I seriously don't know why this is so hard

Because you have a fucked up brain that puts violent assault on the same pedestal as not putting personal details about yourself out there when not provoked to do so.
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3rd_Best_Master
09/14/18 1:51:34 PM
#181:


DuranOfForcena posted...
The23rdMagus posted...
The cause of the violence is the violent person.

I know this might sound like some pie-in-the-sky idealist SJW bullshit soyboy beta cuck idea, but what if people are taught not to react violently to things that don't require violence? What if we're taught to better express our thoughts and emotions instead of blowing up and having violent meltdowns when something finally reaches a tipping point?

and what if people were taught not to have road rage and get out of their cars and murder someone in traffic? what if people were taught not to kill? not to rape? not to steal?

oh wait, people are taught not to do those things. and yet they still happen anyway. it's almost like one would benefit from recognizing the objective fact that these things can and will happen no matter how much you teach people not to do them, and from recognizing that there are some ways in which one can reduce their potential risk of being on the receiving end of things like these.

And those people get dealt with properly. The solution to having someone cut you off isn't to run them off the road and the solution to discovering that she used to be he a few years ago isn't to assault them. Quit making excuses for violent fuckbags. Gay panic isn't a defense and it's not an excuse.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/14/18 1:52:06 PM
#182:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Lie about being a modeling agency exec to get laid? RAPE!

Lie about being rich to get laid? RAPE!

Lie about your age to make yourself younger and get laid? RAPE!

Lie about your ethnicity to get laid? RAPE!

Lie about having a penis and testicles to get laid? Shut up and enjoy that feminine girl penis!

Literally none of that is rape tho
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ledbowman
09/14/18 1:52:21 PM
#183:


He wanted to fuck her?
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Bloodychess
09/14/18 1:52:50 PM
#184:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bloodychess posted...


How about this.

Condemn people that deceive others in situations like this.
Condemn using violence against said deceivers.

I seriously don't know why this is so hard

Because you have a fucked up brain that puts violent assault on the same pedestal as not putting personal details about yourself out there when not provoked to do so.


No alt account, I'm not equalizing them. Anything else you want to make up?
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BJ-blazkowics
09/14/18 1:53:30 PM
#186:


unpopular opinion time:

eating chicken is not like eating beef.

If you made a chicken look exactly like a cow (assume it is possible), you'll still be eating chicken, aka. white meat.

You can reconfigure a P into a V. But you're essentially kissing a male tongue, touching male skin, and getting inside a penis that has been turned inside-out.. it is not vagina tissue, it is penis tissue, just shaped differently.

I'm all for calling them she, her, etc. And treating them with equal respect and all that. Is it too much to ask for a straight guy not to want to have sex with them?
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:53:33 PM
#187:


Saying it happens isn't the same as saying it's right.

I know that I SHOULD be able to put on a bunch of expensive chains and expensive clothes and walk down the worst streets in Memphis. I don't because I'm not that damn stupid. I treat the world as it IS rather than what I think it should be.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:54:03 PM
#188:


Bloodychess posted...
No alt account, I'm not equalizing them. Anything else you want to make up?

"I am not doing the thing I just did"
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:55:47 PM
#191:


DuranOfForcena posted...
SaithSayer posted...
Saying it happens isn't the same as saying it's right.

I know that I SHOULD be able to put on a bunch of expensive chains and expensive clothes and walk down the worst streets in Memphis. I don't because I'm not that damn stupid. I treat the world as it IS rather than what I think it should be.

why is this such a difficult concept for some people to comprehend? i really don't get it.

Because idiots think they can turn the world into an episode of Care Bears.
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Moonves4Prison
09/14/18 1:55:54 PM
#192:


refmon posted...
why didnt he tell him


This. I don't support hitting the trans person, but what does the trans person expect if they keep the fact that he/she is trans a secret?
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Bloodychess
09/14/18 1:55:59 PM
#193:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Bloodychess posted...
No alt account, I'm not equalizing them. Anything else you want to make up?

"I am not doing the thing I just did"

"I put pineapple on pizza"
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CyricZ
09/14/18 1:56:51 PM
#194:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
Is it too much to ask for a straight guy not to want to have sex with them?

No one in this topic is suggesting that you have to consciously date someone you know is transgender if you don't want to. You can say no and depart.

We just ask, #1, that you don't react violently to learning someone is transgender. That's kinda the big one.

To a lesser extent, realize that if you learn someone you're with is transgender, that you were attracted to that person up to that point, and look within yourself and ask yourself was them "being a cis-woman" really what attracted you to them in the first place?

Just... do some soul-searching.
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3rd_Best_Master
09/14/18 1:56:54 PM
#195:


DuranOfForcena posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Quit making excuses for violent fuckbags.

what the fuck is your problem? how many fucking times do i have to say that i'm not condoning or making any excuses for violence?

If you quit making excuses for violent behavior then I'll stop assuming that you're constantly making excuses for violent behavior. Culpability isn't on the one that was assaulted, it was on the insecure guy that we beating on a sexual partner because they got uncomfortable.
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DarkProto05
09/14/18 1:56:56 PM
#196:


Bloodychess posted...
Roshon posted...
Seems like only heterosexual men have insecurity


The party that doesn't hide important sexual details purposefully is the insecure one, sure.

This.
The party that's upfront about what they want is insecure? As opposed to the party that's so desperate that they hide their transition because they know the other will not consent? LMAO
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CyricZ
09/14/18 1:57:30 PM
#197:


Moonves4Prison posted...
refmon posted...
why didnt he tell him


This. I don't support hitting the trans person, but what does the trans person expect if they keep the fact that he/she is trans a secret?

"What does she expect when she dresses like that?"
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:57:40 PM
#198:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
I'm all for calling them she, her, etc. And treating them with equal respect and all that. Is it too much to ask for a straight guy not to want to have sex with them?

*Topic is about a non-transperson committing violent assault*

"YEAH BUT WHY DOES THE TRANS PERSON THINK I SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM!?!?!"
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Moonves4Prison
09/14/18 1:58:45 PM
#199:


CyricZ posted...
Moonves4Prison posted...
refmon posted...
why didnt he tell him


This. I don't support hitting the trans person, but what does the trans person expect if they keep the fact that he/she is trans a secret?

"What does she expect when she dresses like that?"


A trans person who tries to have sex with a hetero person without telling the hetero person that the trans person is trans is basically attempted rape.
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CyricZ
09/14/18 1:59:21 PM
#200:


Moonves4Prison posted...
A trans person who tries to have sex with a hetero person without telling the hetero person that the trans person is trans is basically attempted rape.

By what law.
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 1:59:21 PM
#201:


CyricZ posted...
Moonves4Prison posted...
refmon posted...
why didnt he tell him


This. I don't support hitting the trans person, but what does the trans person expect if they keep the fact that he/she is trans a secret?

"What does she expect when she dresses like that?"

Because people WEAR their genitals...
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NibeIungsnarf
09/14/18 1:59:40 PM
#202:


Moonves4Prison posted...
A trans person who tries to have sex with a hetero person without telling the hetero person that the trans person is trans is basically attempted rape.

In Iran, maybe.
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