Current Events > Trump cancels 2.1% pay increase for all federal employees.

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IdiotMachine
08/30/18 7:16:05 PM
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Under current law, locality pay increases averaging 25.70 percent, costing $25 billion, would go into effect in January 2019, in addition to a 2.1 percent across-the-board increase for the base General Schedule.
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I have determined that for 2019, both acrosstheboard pay increases and locality pay increases will be set at zero.


Source:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-speaker-house-representatives-president-senate-32/
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Tyranthraxus
08/30/18 7:17:19 PM
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Trumpanzees will defend somehow
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Muffinz0rz
08/30/18 7:17:46 PM
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Will this make the post office more competent?
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NeonOctopus
08/30/18 7:17:52 PM
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John_Galt
08/30/18 7:18:00 PM
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Good

Govt spending is out of control, time to tighten the belt
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Hexenherz
08/30/18 7:18:42 PM
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It's OK they didn't need the raise because they're going to be paying less in taxes!!
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Antifar
08/30/18 7:19:13 PM
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Continuing the Trump tradition of keeping wages stagnant
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Tmaster148
08/30/18 7:19:30 PM
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It's not even a raise. It's literally just keeping people's salaries up with inflation.
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BWing
08/30/18 7:21:44 PM
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John_Galt posted...
Good

Govt spending is out of control, time to tighten the belt

No sense in being jealous of government employees just because you flip burgers for a living.
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Bio1590
08/30/18 7:22:45 PM
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Wait why does the President alone have the power to do this?
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COVxy
08/30/18 7:24:15 PM
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Don't worry, federal employees aren't people.
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iPhone_7
08/30/18 7:25:33 PM
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Has he increased his own or his administrations wages?
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 7:26:55 PM
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"Locality pay" is a pile of horseshit, and needs to be eliminated anyway.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/fact-sheets/
In the locality pay program, Federal pay is compared to non-Federal pay for the same levels of work. The results of such pay comparisons can be found in annual recommendations of the Federal Salary Council and in annual reports of the Presidents Pay Agent.
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prince_leo
08/30/18 7:30:48 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"Locality pay" is a pile of horseshit, and needs to be eliminated anyway.

it's really not though
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SophieLuvsTofu
08/30/18 7:39:29 PM
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I'm actually really upset about this.

Why do they think it is ok to:

1) Freeze Wage Increase (COLAS REALLY)
2) Increase Pension Costs (FERS / FERS FRAE????) And Possible FURTHER Increase?

Freeze like these hurt federal employee and scare away top talent, not attract.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 7:44:55 PM
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SophieLuvsTofu posted...
Freeze like these hurt federal employee and scare away top talent, not attract.

Nuh uh

Trump says stagnant pay will have no influence in attracting and retaining employees.
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bknight
08/30/18 7:46:38 PM
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Nice of him to announce this right before the 2018 elections.
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ImaAskAQuestion
08/30/18 7:47:09 PM
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"This means he will give it to the poor!"
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ScazarMeltex
08/30/18 7:47:26 PM
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Don't worry though, the corporate overlords got their tax cuts.
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SophieLuvsTofu
08/30/18 7:47:32 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...
Freeze like these hurt federal employee and scare away top talent, not attract.

Nuh uh

Trump says stagnant pay will have no influence in attracting and retaining employees.


This is annoying lol

He says no and somehow changes the whole statement to fact without any evidence.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 7:47:49 PM
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ImaAskAQuestion posted...
"This means he will give it to the poor!"

".... military"
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 7:49:17 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
ImaAskAQuestion posted...
"This means he will give it to the poor!"

".... military"

"... contractors"
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IdiotMachine
08/30/18 8:07:37 PM
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:08:19 PM
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Good.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 8:09:36 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Good.

Good that people wont get a raise according to inflation. Bootstraps!
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:10:27 PM
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You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 8:11:29 PM
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Why is this the president's decision, instead of Congress's?

IdiotMachine posted...
Here's a Fox article:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/trump-cancels-planned-january-pay-increase-for-federal-workers.html

And CNN article:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/30/politics/trump-cancels-federal-employee-pay-raises/index.html

Still waiting on BBC News...
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:11:40 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

"If you don't have an 'important' job, go fuck yourself and die."
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 8:11:53 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

Yeah because not raising wages according to inflation has been working out in all the other sectors /s
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 8:12:35 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

Yeah because not raising wages according to inflation has been working out in all the other sectors /s

That even happens in all the other sectors?
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:13:04 PM
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Everyone else has to earn their raises. Don't use our tax dollars to subsidize inefficient systems and those workers with guaranteed raises. It's immoral.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:13:23 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

"If you don't have an 'important' job, go fuck yourself and die."

Not getting an automatic raise just because of seniority = they want you to die. Seems legit.
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Hinakuluiau
08/30/18 8:13:38 PM
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Keep in mind that this isn't even a real raise, it's to keep up with cost of living. By not getting it, they're basically doing the same job for less money
No one should be happy about this, it's just fucking over the middle class

It's not even about saving money since he's blowing up the deficit
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Master_Bass
08/30/18 8:14:03 PM
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Fuck Trump. Thanks for stagnating my wages.
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Garioshi
08/30/18 8:15:13 PM
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But we need $700 billion for the military!
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:15:21 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

"If you don't have an 'important' job, go fuck yourself and die."

Not getting an automatic raise just because of seniority = they want you to die. Seems legit.


It's hockeybub.
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:15:48 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Fuck Trump. Thanks for stagnating my wages.


LMAO should've known one of the board's most vocal Marxists is a government paper pusher
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Master_Bass
08/30/18 8:16:26 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
Master_Bass posted...
Fuck Trump. Thanks for stagnating my wages.


LMAO should've known one of the board's most vocal Marxists is a government paper pusher

Huh?
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:16:30 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
Everyone else has to earn their raises

Is existing for X amount of time really considered earning? People get pay raises all the time without going above and beyond and having their bosses begging them to stay.

Didn't Trump just basically give everyone raises without them earning it with those corporate pleasing tax cuts?
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:19:05 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
Everyone else has to earn their raises

Is existing for X amount of time really considered earning? People get pay raises all the time without going above and beyond and having their bosses begging them to stay.

Didn't Trump just basically give everyone raises without them earning it with those corporate pleasing tax cuts?


lmao
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TheRealDill2000
08/30/18 8:19:11 PM
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Gov't salaries are overinflated as is. Besides, this frees up more funds for things that matter to us.
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Tmaster148
08/30/18 8:19:16 PM
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Proudclad posting about stuff he doesn't understand on an alt, because he can't even behave long enough to have his main not modded.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:20:48 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
Everyone else has to earn their raises

Is existing for X amount of time really considered earning? People get pay raises all the time without going above and beyond and having their bosses begging them to stay.

Didn't Trump just basically give everyone raises without them earning it with those corporate pleasing tax cuts?

the tax cuts went to everybody, genius.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:20:57 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.

"If you don't have an 'important' job, go fuck yourself and die."

Not getting an automatic raise just because of seniority = they want you to die. Seems legit.

Inflation goes up every year, so it's essential pay goes up just to keep you from getting poorer over time. Promotions and hefty raises are one thing to earn yourself, but these little raises are essential. We don't live in a society where money never changes value.
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 8:22:06 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
the tax cuts went to everybody, genius.

Why do federal employees pay federal income tax anyway?
That just seems odd and counter-intuitive.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:22:41 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
Everyone else has to earn their raises

Is existing for X amount of time really considered earning? People get pay raises all the time without going above and beyond and having their bosses begging them to stay.

Didn't Trump just basically give everyone raises without them earning it with those corporate pleasing tax cuts?

the tax cuts went to everybody, genius.

So everyone got a raise just for existing? Motherfucking Trump giving people money for nothing? Did everyone work to deserve that pay bump?
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:22:57 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Inflation goes up every year, so it's essential pay goes up just to keep you from getting poorer over time. Promotions and hefty raises are one thing, but these little raises are essential. We don't live in a society where money never changes value.

Really, because my raises (and most everyone else's) have always been performance-based and I'm doing just fine.
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Devil_Katt_II
08/30/18 8:23:57 PM
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Trump does his darndest to be pretty much the worst president he possibly can be.
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gp1829
08/30/18 8:25:10 PM
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Happy Labor Day.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:25:11 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
Everyone else has to earn their raises

Is existing for X amount of time really considered earning? People get pay raises all the time without going above and beyond and having their bosses begging them to stay.

Didn't Trump just basically give everyone raises without them earning it with those corporate pleasing tax cuts?


lmao

You said everyone goes and earns their raises. I pointed out that raises over time are a thing. Is simply being employed for a period of time considered earning a raise to you?
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