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Questionmarktarius
08/30/18 8:25:23 PM
#51:


Devil_Katt_II posted...
Trump does his darndest to be pretty much the worst president he possibly can be.

He seems to be doing his darndest to be a living incarnation of the All in the Family theme.

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gp1829
08/30/18 8:26:00 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Inflation goes up every year, so it's essential pay goes up just to keep you from getting poorer over time. Promotions and hefty raises are one thing, but these little raises are essential. We don't live in a society where money never changes value.

Really, because my raises (and most everyone else's) have always been performance-based and I'm doing just fine.


Plenty of people get cost of living raises
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:27:18 PM
#53:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Inflation goes up every year, so it's essential pay goes up just to keep you from getting poorer over time. Promotions and hefty raises are one thing, but these little raises are essential. We don't live in a society where money never changes value.

Really, because my raises (and most everyone else's) have always been performance-based and I'm doing just fine.

You forgot to cut out the part of my post that fucks your reply.

Also, nice to see you and Proudclad admit to never having worked a day in your lives.
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Tmaster148
08/30/18 8:28:04 PM
#54:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Inflation goes up every year, so it's essential pay goes up just to keep you from getting poorer over time. Promotions and hefty raises are one thing, but these little raises are essential. We don't live in a society where money never changes value.

Really, because my raises (and most everyone else's) have always been performance-based and I'm doing just fine.


You'll have to share how you get by on 0% performance only raises.
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COVxy
08/30/18 8:30:11 PM
#55:


silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.


I don't imagine you understand the scope of federal employees.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:30:51 PM
#56:


COVxy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.


I don't imagine you understand the scope of federal employees.

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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:32:17 PM
#57:


hockeybub89 posted...
So everyone got a raise just for existing? Motherfucking Trump giving people money for nothing? Did everyone work to deserve that pay bump?

Ok you do know that taxes are the money YOU earn going to the government, right?
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:32:17 PM
#58:


It's impressive how much word salad hockeybub spews out without even pausing for a second to think if his questions are even intelligible.

What kind of person thinks keeping more of your income via tax cut means you got an undeserved raise?What in the fuck?
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:33:09 PM
#59:


COVxy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.


I don't imagine you understand the scope of federal employees.


Do you have any argument that specifically addresses what I said? Or are you just going to try to always lick the boot of the entity that funds your lab's grants?
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Tmaster148
08/30/18 8:33:44 PM
#60:


silentwing26x posted...
It's impressive how much word salad hockeybub spews out without even pausing for a second to think if his questions are even intelligible.


Irony.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:36:05 PM
#61:


silentwing26x posted...
It's impressive how much word salad hockeybub spews out without even pausing for a second to think if his questions are even intelligible.

What kind of person thinks keeping more of your income via tax cut means you got an undeserved raise?What in the fuck?

That was more tongue-in-cheek. Now answer my question. People get raises all the time for cost of living or for working at a company for a set amount of time. Are either of those raises an example of someone reaching up and grabbing more money by the balls? Plenty of raises are not merit-based.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:37:08 PM
#62:


"Fuck the government! I'm glad the government is putting a stop to the government!"
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 8:37:46 PM
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> people get raises all the time

> wages have been stagnant for decades!!111 WE NEED BERNIE!!!!111111

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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:38:47 PM
#64:


hockeybub89 posted...
That was more tongue-in-cheek. Now answer my question. People get raises all the time for cost of living or for working at a company for a set amount of time.

This would only be a valid point if every single govt employee made just enough to survive, which is fucking false. Tons of public employees get great salaries and benefits (usually thanks to public unions) and there's no reason they should get an automatic raise every year.
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Tmaster148
08/30/18 8:40:19 PM
#65:


silentwing26x posted...
> people get raises all the time

> wages have been stagnant for decades!!111 WE NEED BERNIE!!!!111111

lmao


Wages can be stagnant in relation to inflation. But I don't expect someone who has stated anti-vax views to understand the complexities of wages.
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COVxy
08/30/18 8:40:26 PM
#66:


silentwing26x posted...
COVxy posted...
silentwing26x posted...
You're not entitled to a yearly raise just because you're an unproductive paper pusher for the gubmint.


I don't imagine you understand the scope of federal employees.


Do you have any argument that specifically addresses what I said? Or are you just going to try to always lick the boot of the entity that funds your lab's grants?


Uh, pretty simple to point out that there's an incredibly large population of federal employees who do really important work, and almost certainly work harder than you do.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:40:43 PM
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It is really hard work holding down a job for a few years. I must congratulate everyone for completing the tough task of not getting fired.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:41:01 PM
#68:


Tmaster148 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
> people get raises all the time

> wages have been stagnant for decades!!111 WE NEED BERNIE!!!!111111

lmao


Wages can be stagnant in relation to inflation. But I don't expect someone who has stated anti-vax views to understand the complexities of wages.

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DifferentialEquation
08/30/18 8:41:18 PM
#69:


Trump said he was going to cut costs and reduce needless spending and that's what he's doing. This is why we voted for him.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 8:41:59 PM
#70:


Tmaster148 posted...
Proudclad posting about stuff he doesn't understand on an alt, because he can't even behave long enough to have his main not modded.

Same with Mal.

Its like theyre gimmick posters or something.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:42:42 PM
#71:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
That was more tongue-in-cheek. Now answer my question. People get raises all the time for cost of living or for working at a company for a set amount of time.

This would only be a valid point if every single govt employee made just enough to survive, which is fucking false. Tons of public employees get great salaries and benefits (usually thanks to public unions) and there's no reason they should get an automatic raise every year.

Oh so only private employees deserve raises even if they make more than the poverty line? Public employees are people just like you and me.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:43:12 PM
#72:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Trump said he was going to cut costs and reduce needless spending and that's what he's doing. This is why we voted for him.

"Trump is doing thing I don't like! Who could possibly support him???"

"Probably the people who like what he's doing."

"Yeah well they're fascist nazi evil racists too"
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:44:16 PM
#73:


hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
That was more tongue-in-cheek. Now answer my question. People get raises all the time for cost of living or for working at a company for a set amount of time.

This would only be a valid point if every single govt employee made just enough to survive, which is fucking false. Tons of public employees get great salaries and benefits (usually thanks to public unions) and there's no reason they should get an automatic raise every year.

Oh so only private employees deserve raises even if they make more than the poverty line? Public employees are people just like you and me.

I'm gonna give you another chance to read my post again since you didn't respond to anything I said.
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kingdrake2
08/30/18 8:45:47 PM
#74:


trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.
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StarLightGlimmR
08/30/18 8:47:55 PM
#75:


John_Galt posted...
Good

Govt spending is out of control, time to tighten the belt
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:48:04 PM
#76:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Trump said he was going to cut costs and reduce needless spending and that's what he's doing. This is why we voted for him.

"Trump is doing thing I don't like! Who could possibly support him???"

"Probably the people who like what he's doing."

"Yeah well they're fascist nazi evil racists too"

This is why he is golfing and visiting his resort on the government dime while also increasing military spending and our debt. Fiscal responsibility.

"Cut spending" is like "states rights". It's not a general idea that people support.

Trump could take away people's raises and use that money to build a statue of his tiny penis and his supporters would cheer about his fiscal responsibility.
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gp1829
08/30/18 8:48:08 PM
#77:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Trump said he was going to cut costs and reduce needless spending and that's what he's doing. This is why we voted for him.

"Trump is doing thing I don't like! Who could possibly support him???"

"Probably the people who like what he's doing."

"Yeah well they're fascist nazi evil racists too"


Reducing that needless spending while he is currently at a make me feel better rally.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:50:06 PM
#78:


hockeybub89 posted...
This is why he is golfing and visiting his resort on the government dime while also increasing military spending and our debt. Fiscal responsibility.

I agree, more spending should be cut.

Anything else?
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TheRealDill2000
08/30/18 8:51:00 PM
#79:


kingdrake2 posted...
trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.

He cut taxes across the board. We all effectively received pay increases from it.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:51:08 PM
#80:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
That was more tongue-in-cheek. Now answer my question. People get raises all the time for cost of living or for working at a company for a set amount of time.

This would only be a valid point if every single govt employee made just enough to survive, which is fucking false. Tons of public employees get great salaries and benefits (usually thanks to public unions) and there's no reason they should get an automatic raise every year.

Oh so only private employees deserve raises even if they make more than the poverty line? Public employees are people just like you and me.

I'm gonna give you another chance to read my post again since you didn't respond to anything I said.

Private employees get raises simply for existing all the time and the majority of them live above poverty. What makes public employees different? Why shouldn't they get seniority and cost of living raises?
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kingdrake2
08/30/18 8:52:26 PM
#81:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.

He cut taxes across the board. We all effectively received pay increases from it.


true but it's way shifted toward the higher income bracket.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 8:52:38 PM
#82:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
This is why he is golfing and visiting his resort on the government dime while also increasing military spending and our debt. Fiscal responsibility.

I agree, more spending should be cut.

Anything else?

How do you breathe swimming in so much bullshit?
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darkjedilink
08/30/18 8:53:24 PM
#83:


Good.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:53:39 PM
#84:


hockeybub89 posted...
Private employees get raises simply for existing all the time

Be that money comes from the private company's pocket, not from taxpayers.

Do you know how any of this works

hockeybub89 posted...
What makes public employees different?

Nothing, which is why every single public employee shouldn't be getting automatic raises every year, just like how not every private employee gets an automatic raise every year.

Understand now?
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Will446
08/30/18 8:53:43 PM
#85:


I am a government worker. Not federally. But we are in a similar situation with our govenor right now. Do I understand why Trump is doing this? Yes. Does it suck? Yes!

Espically if your a worker in an area were inflation due to trust funded progressive young adults from California, and Washington are flooding into cities like mine and outpricing everyone making it impossible to live here
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:54:18 PM
#86:


kingdrake2 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.

He cut taxes across the board. We all effectively received pay increases from it.


true but it's way shifted toward the higher income bracket.

No, the middle class got the biggest percentage cuts.
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kingdrake2
08/30/18 8:55:25 PM
#87:


Will446 posted...
I am a government worker. Not federally. But we are in a similar situation with our govenor right now. Do I understand why Trump is doing this? Yes. Does it suck? Yes!

Espically if your a worker in an area were inflation due to trust funded progressive young adults from California, and Washington are flooding into cities like mine and outpricing everyone making it impossible to live here


i know your pain, housing has gotten jacked up ever since about 5 years ago. used to be paying 500$ before then. 750$ was okay but now every apartment rental is over 1k per month even the crappy ones.

if i had the choice to possibly move to texas for cheaper living i would. but i gotta support my family where they reside.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:55:38 PM
#88:


Will446 posted...
I am a government worker. Not federally. But we are in a similar situation with our govenor right now. Do I understand why Trump is doing this? Yes. Does it suck? Yes!

Espically if your a worker in an area were inflation due to trust funded progressive young adults from California, and Washington are flooding into cities like mine and outpricing everyone making it impossible to live here

Perpetually democrat states are becoming more and more expensive and unlivable.

Color. Me. Surprised.
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Solar_Crimson
08/30/18 8:57:58 PM
#89:


Of course, the only people defending this are the Trump cultists.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 8:58:29 PM
#90:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course, the only people defending this are the people who want a smaller government

Yeah, that's kind of how this works.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 9:08:01 PM
#91:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.

He cut taxes across the board. We all effectively received pay increases from it.


true but it's way shifted toward the higher income bracket.

No, the middle class got the biggest percentage cuts.

Also got the cuts that arent permanent.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 9:09:23 PM
#92:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
trump has no problem cutting taxes for the upper class but can't give wage increases to the working man topsy-turvey world FML.

He cut taxes across the board. We all effectively received pay increases from it.


true but it's way shifted toward the higher income bracket.

No, the middle class got the biggest percentage cuts.

Also got the cuts that arent permanent.

None of the income tax cuts are permanent, genius.
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Will446
08/30/18 9:09:31 PM
#93:


kingdrake2 posted...
Will446 posted...
I am a government worker. Not federally. But we are in a similar situation with our govenor right now. Do I understand why Trump is doing this? Yes. Does it suck? Yes!

Espically if your a worker in an area were inflation due to trust funded progressive young adults from California, and Washington are flooding into cities like mine and outpricing everyone making it impossible to live here


i know your pain, housing has gotten jacked up ever since about 5 years ago. used to be paying 500$ before then. 750$ was okay but now every apartment rental is over 1k per month even the crappy ones.

if i had the choice to possibly move to texas for cheaper living i would. but i gotta support my family where they reside.


I actually moved to Texas about ten years its been my big regret I couldnt stay because the private industry jobs are sweet out that way. Same with North Dakota. Funny thing I got a state job with North Dakota that at one point gave me a housing allowance in Edition to my pay. The skype interview consisted of the Public Service Administrator complaining that everyone who got a job within the department leaves within weeks, days and gets a 100k job in the private industry.

Keep in mind North Dakota is the place where there is a job boom and Walmart was at one point paying near 20 an hour to keep people lol
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 9:09:44 PM
#94:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course, the only people defending this are the people who want a smaller government

Yeah, that's kind of how this works.

>Trump
>wanting smaller government

Pick 1
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CanuckCowboy
08/30/18 9:11:16 PM
#95:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Trumpanzees will defend somehow


Wut?

This is the best thing he's done. Fuck Trump but why would this be viewed as a negative by the average person? Federal employees do just fine already.
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CanuckCowboy
08/30/18 9:11:51 PM
#96:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course, the only people defending this are the people who want a smaller government

Yeah, that's kind of how this works.

>Trump
>wanting smaller government

Pick 1


Also this.

How the fuck is Trump a small government pres? C'mon
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 9:11:55 PM
#97:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course, the only people defending this are the people who want a smaller government

Yeah, that's kind of how this works.

>Trump
>wanting smaller government

Pick 1

Reduced regulations, reduced taxes, scaled back Obama's bomb-happy military strategy... nah I'll pick two.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 9:12:14 PM
#98:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Trumpanzees will defend somehow


Wut?

This is the best thing he's done. Fuck Trump but why would this be viewed as a negative by the average person? Federal employees do just fine already.

Until wages begin to fall even farther under inflation just to trigger liberals.
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mustachedmystic
08/30/18 9:13:05 PM
#99:


Who is John Galt? There's a bumper sticker asking this question on a Subaru thats parked by the trail I walk on.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/30/18 9:14:09 PM
#100:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Of course, the only people defending this are the people who want a smaller government

Yeah, that's kind of how this works.

>Trump
>wanting smaller government

Pick 1

Reduced regulations, reduced taxes, scaled back Obama's bomb-happy military strategy... nah I'll pick two.

Didnt know small government meant spending millions of dollars on make me feel better rallies and vacationing every weekend, along with actually not making the military smaller.

Youre even more of a joke if you seriously believe Trump is making government smaller. Though youre the same person who believed NATO was made post-9/11 and thought Nazis were leftist.
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