Board 8 > Sir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Work is picking up.

Its clear that scum is between Han, Tange, and Ben. I wish my foundation was better here but it isnt.

If Han is scum, and it makes sense, hes played a good game.

But recent things in the last two days make me question a lot.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ben, go read back through the game. Do an ISO of Tange.

If you trust him more than ANYONE until the IGCD lynch, then you are a liar.

Hm? I'm lost. Tange was off my radar basically for a long while after he was inno scanned. I only looked at him again when I started having too many town reads on others
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Han hammering Death is a bold move, but seriously EVERYONE else expressed that they;d rather Death get killed. Scum knows that hammering is very suspicious especially when it goes against everyone's wishes. And there is really not much of a loss for scum Han to kill Death. Again, it removes another player that he considers "on his level". Zach remains easy pickings for him later

He's never even said why he thinks Zach is Town now. Can you explain that to me, Han?
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And dont go into specifics on why Death is not on your level, if that's what you think. >.> Regardless I know you would fear him much more than the rest of us
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Current Votals

[1] - Han - Tange
[0] - Zach - (Tange)

With 5 Alive it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends Saturday at 10:30 PM EDT.
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benjamin3740 posted...

What does that change except get yourself another vote on you? From Crescent

She's more willing to think things through.

ColZach posted...

Work is picking up.

Its clear that scum is between Han, Tange, and Ben. I wish my foundation was better here but it isnt.

If Han is scum, and it makes sense, hes played a good game.

But recent things in the last two days make me question a lot.

Dont worry Zach. Despite how trashily I've talked at you, I'm confident we can use the rest of today well and you'll be in a good spot to help win the game even if I get lynched.

benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ben, go read back through the game. Do an ISO of Tange.

If you trust him more than ANYONE until the IGCD lynch, then you are a liar.

Hm? I'm lost. Tange was off my radar basically for a long while after he was inno scanned. I only looked at him again when I started having too many town reads on others

Tange was the worst looking player in the game until you took that with your vote on IGCD. Ther only reason you guys made it this far is your inno scans.

Have you read the game? Most people have been leaning towards either of you not being Town this whole game.

benjamin3740 posted...

He's never even said why he thinks Zach is Town now. Can you explain that to me, Han?

If Zach is Scum, then he should forfeit for making that post in the discussion topic. Considering you're using it as evidence, the game is affected by it. I dont really care to consider the possibility that he's scum anymore.

benjamin3740 posted...

And dont go into specifics on why Death is not on your level, if that's what you think. >.> Regardless I know you would fear him much more than the rest of us

Nah. Death was in the same boat as me - unscanned vanilla who had played the game without seeming too Townish. Also, I get him more than I get the rest of ya'll, aside from FD. So despite my alignment, I'd consider him a better option to keep alive.

Heres a weird point - if I were Scum alive this long, it would be for a good reason. I never make it to endgame by being neutral. It's usually because I made a huge play (getting Red lynched over IGCD, for example)
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Also, remember all that nonsense about Corrik and the odds of him drawing Scum? I was Scum the last two games I played, so the odds of me being Scum here are low, if you care about that sort of thing.
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3.7% chance of that happening, right? 1/27? Odds are in my favor being Town here.
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Odds of you being scum this game are 6 in 22, Han.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

What does that change except get yourself another vote on you? From Crescent

She's more willing to think things through.

Are you trying to say she's easier to deceive? We're talking about why or why not you would Crescent.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ben, go read back through the game. Do an ISO of Tange.

If you trust him more than ANYONE until the IGCD lynch, then you are a liar.

Hm? I'm lost. Tange was off my radar basically for a long while after he was inno scanned. I only looked at him again when I started having too many town reads on others

Tange was the worst looking player in the game until you took that with your vote on IGCD. Ther only reason you guys made it this far is your inno scans.

Have you read the game? Most people have been leaning towards either of you not being Town this whole game.

Well, I didn't think he was. Are you saying you thought Tange looked scummier than Red? Hell the only reason I thought IGCD was scum was because it looked like a bad buss attempt from Red.

I dont know what people being suspicious of me or Tange has to do with my reads today.

benjamin3740 posted...

He's never even said why he thinks Zach is Town now. Can you explain that to me, Han?

If Zach is Scum, then he should forfeit for making that post in the discussion topic. Considering you're using it as evidence, the game is affected by it. I dont really care to consider the possibility that he's scum anymore.

So you are another person who claims to agree with the points on Zach that I presented and still wanted to kill Zach yesterday anyway? In that case, I absolutely would have "batted an eye" if you hammered Zach. It's the reason I voted Death.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, remember all that nonsense about Corrik and the odds of him drawing Scum? I was Scum the last two games I played, so the odds of me being Scum here are low, if you care about that sort of thing.

Uhh. Corrik was wrong. That's why we all ignored him. These games and their odds have no relation to each other >.>
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Not that it matters, because this is complete wifom, but I wouldn't have played this game if I drew scum.

Look - I was completely honest when I went after Tony day 1. I saw how scummy his first post was, and I hopped on it. And my glee at being RIGHT was completely real. The way Tony responded to me that D1 doesn't look at all like Scummates talking to each other.

Also, I defended Zam. If I was Scum, however he was treated on the scumboard, I would have fought that. And since the bus was at least somewhat premeditated, or at least Tony decided after Zam claimed his role, I don't see how I would do that as a Scumbuddy.

Even though I wasn't on the MZero lynch, I completely planned on it. The only reason I wasn't was because everyone else wasn't active enough to settle on my proposed people to put on the lynch. But look at that day - I worked my ASS off to make sure we enacted the plan with the greatest chance of giving us information.

Towns die due to inactivity. While I haven't been the most active during the entire game, when I'm here, I push things to happen. I'm almost certainly the most active player still alive, given the entire game.

I'm not Scum, and I want to win this game without dying because I think I actually have never been mislynched once. I want us to clear me through good play, and find Scum through good play, but if i have to die to get people to stop being lazy and actually scumhunt, then so be it.

My death doesn't end the game. So when I'm done with making my case, I'll stop defending myself. My time is better spent making a case for the last Scum, so ya'll can aim true when I'm dead.
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benjamin3740 posted...

So you are another person who claims to agree with the points on Zach that I presented and still wanted to kill Zach yesterday anyway? In that case, I absolutely would have "batted an eye" if you hammered Zach. It's the reason I voted Death.

It was more me convincing myself that you and Tange looked like complete trash, and I was being stubborn on Zach, and that allowed me to recognize your point and move on.

If you recall, I tried to vote Tange at end of day. And I let crescent and FD talk me into lynching Death.

That was bad though. Should've no-lynched.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Not that it matters, because this is complete wifom, but I wouldn't have played this game if I drew scum.

Look - I was completely honest when I went after Tony day 1. I saw how scummy his first post was, and I hopped on it. And my glee at being RIGHT was completely real. The way Tony responded to me that D1 doesn't look at all like Scummates talking to each other.

Also, I defended Zam. If I was Scum, however he was treated on the scumboard, I would have fought that. And since the bus was at least somewhat premeditated, or at least Tony decided after Zam claimed his role, I don't see how I would do that as a Scumbuddy.

Even though I wasn't on the MZero lynch, I completely planned on it. The only reason I wasn't was because everyone else wasn't active enough to settle on my proposed people to put on the lynch. But look at that day - I worked my ASS off to make sure we enacted the plan with the greatest chance of giving us information.

Towns die due to inactivity. While I haven't been the most active during the entire game, when I'm here, I push things to happen. I'm almost certainly the most active player still alive, given the entire game.

I'm not Scum, and I want to win this game without dying because I think I actually have never been mislynched once. I want us to clear me through good play, and find Scum through good play, but if i have to die to get people to stop being lazy and actually scumhunt, then so be it.

My death doesn't end the game. So when I'm done with making my case, I'll stop defending myself. My time is better spent making a case for the last Scum, so ya'll can aim true when I'm dead.

That first line has to be a bit exaggerated right?

I like the last one. Help me figure it out, because it's not me, and I don't want to be wrong either.
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If I were Scum, I wouldve lynched IGCD. I have every indication that I would have. If I were part of an effort to keep Red alive, I would have participated in it.
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Maybe exaggerated a little bit. I wayyy prefer playing Town, and I didn't have a good two Scum games. I would hate to ruin the games integrity rhough.

If I were scum, I probably wouldve crucified zam for the autocorrect thing.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

If I were Scum, I wouldve lynched IGCD. I have every indication that I would have. If I were part of an effort to keep Red alive, I would have participated in it.

I was referring to your statement that you would have quit the game if you drew scum.

Also you do realize how impossible this is for me to believe, right? -.- I haven't played with you enough to know how you play as scum. Do you really never choose to buss someone?

Meanwhile, people who have played with me know how freaking hard I buss and how hard I bussed Red in particular in F*** 2017 mafia. In that game I killed my own scum over Town when the votes were tied in the last 30 seconds of the day. So maybe you shouldnt use the IGCD argument over and over against me
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I haven't really played consistently for years. I used to be a brutal busser, but nowadays teammates yell at me for bussing, so I try to be a team player and do it less.
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OLD HABITS DIE HARD

jk
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FD and Zach, you need to tell me if "Ben VS Han" looks at all like Town VS Town or not. I really hope Han is not Town because odds are the other goes into tomorrow heavily suspected if this gets too bloody.
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Han was just talking about lynching red vs IGCD...and Im pretty sure he lynched IGCD

Day 3
[10] - IGCD - (Han), Panth, Puns, red, MZero, Eaed, FD, EDumey, Ben, Scare, Tony
[6] - red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent, (Ben), (Sheep), Han, (Puns), IGCD, Death, Zach, (Scare), Tange

He did not.
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That is a good look.

I was actually mad at the start of d4 if anyone remembers because I hadnt realized that mass exodus to ICGD had occurred

To be fair, I think I said I was likely to change.

FD, do you have anything to offer aside from clarifying on votals?

I'd like to pull together some of puns's arguments from the MZero day.

benjamin3740 posted...

I like the last one. Help me figure it out, because it's not me, and I don't want to be wrong either.

Now, see, I think it is you. But we should, of course, consider everyone.

What it takes for this person to be Scum

Han - gunning for Scummate after first post of game; continuing to keep it up even when other Scummate who is getting bussed gets outed; choosing to be active in times when he's around despite activity helping Town

FD - would take Chris using a banned role, as well as using that role to kill a Scummate

Zach - bussing Zam D1; choosing to focus wayyy too much on how he can't be Scum because Zam getting bussed was mean, despite Tony showing us it's possible; making a post out of game that pushes him as Town which really should've been a modkill

Tange - choosing to vote Red instead of IGCD when they were against each other; choosing to join the MZero plan at personal risk to self (if he understood it)

Ben - choosing to join the MZero plan at personal risk to self (if he understood it)

Feel free to fill in blanks. Just doing some comparing and contrasting to see if anything sticks out when we consider things from a negative point of view
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Dunno why people are focused on a post that had nothing to do with this game

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Tange - choosing to vote Red instead of IGCD when they were against each other; choosing to join the MZero plan at personal risk to self (if he understood it)

Dont fucking insult me, man
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ColZach posted...

Han was just talking about lynching red vs IGCD...and Im pretty sure he lynched IGCD

He did not vote for IGCD. He did say he agreed with me that IGCD looked like scum though, so I'm not sure why he acts like he can't understand my side of things
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benjamin3740 posted...

ColZach posted...

Han was just talking about lynching red vs IGCD...and Im pretty sure he lynched IGCD

He did not vote for IGCD. He did say he agreed with me that IGCD looked like scum though, so I'm not sure why he acts like he can't understand my side of things

I totally had reason, though.

you said WHEE LYNCHING IS FUN

DoubleTangicide posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Tange - choosing to vote Red instead of IGCD when they were against each other; choosing to join the MZero plan at personal risk to self (if he understood it)

Dont fucking insult me, man

It wasn't an insult. Half the game didn't care to fucking play that day, and half the game said 'uhh i dont get it' to MZero's role. It was literally a qualifier, not an insult.
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Holy wow, Han. What it takes for this person to be scum is such a backwards way to look for scum. Might as well just be a throwaway post to defend yourself. I could also list all of the stuff I would have done differently if I was scum this game, but I'm not because it doesn't help anyone. Also you left off more important things like "Needs to be a Godfather and a Janitor" on mine and Tange's lists of What it takes for us to be scum.

Whatever you did give me was weird anyway. What do you mean "if I understood it"? I was making plans on how to use Mzero's role a day phase before you were.
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Hopefully this is all correct, formatting this post was a pain.

Day 1
[9] - Alakazam - Scare, Zach, Plum, Sultan, Tony, Tange, Han, Leo, Corrik
[1] - Plum - Puns, (Leo), (Death), (Han), (Ben)
[1] - Leo - (Sultan), Panthera, (EDumey)
[1] - EDumey - Alakazam
[1] - Puns - (Crescent), IGCD
[1] - Corrik - (Scare), Ben
[0] - Zach - (Han), (Tange)
[0] - FD - (Corrik)
[0] - Crescent - (Scare), (Plum)
[0] - Han - (Crescent), (Tony)

Day 2
[11] - Panth - Scare, Ben, Tange, Mzero, Zach, IGCD, (Corrik), PJ/Sheep, (EDumey), Leo, Tony, Sultan, Corrik
[3] - Leo - Puns, (Crescent), (IGCD), (Sultan), Death, Panth, (Sultan), (Corrik)
[0] - Puns - (Corrik)
[0] - Eaed - (Crescent)
[0]- Corrik - (Eaed), (Sultan)

Day 3
[10] - IGCD - (Han), Panth, Puns, red, MZero, Eaed, FD, EDumey, Ben, Scare, Tony
[6] - red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent, (Ben), (Sheep), Han, (Puns), IGCD, Death, Zach, (Scare), Tange
[1] - Panth - (Tony), (Zach), (Puns), (Scare), (IGCD), (IGCD), (Tange), Sultan
[1] - Zach - Tony
[0] - Sultan - (Scare), (IGCD), (puns), (Eaed), (IGCD), (FD), (EDumey)
[0] - Tange - (MZero), (Puns)
[0] - Han - (MZero), (IGCD), (EDumey), (Zach)
[0] - Sheep(The artist formerly known as PJ) - (Puns), (IGCD), (Scare), (Eaed), (Sultan), (Han), (Death)
[0] - MZero - (Han), (Tange), (Crescent), (Sultan)
[0] - EDumey - (Crescent)
[0] - Scare - (Sultan)
[0] - Ben - (Sheep)

Day 4
[8] - Dumey - Sheep, Ben, Death, Tange, Sultan, Han, Scare, red
[2] - Sultan - Puns, Dumey
[0] - red - (Ben), (Scare)
[0] - Ben - (Tange)
[0] - Death - (Tony)
[0] - Sheep - (Dumey)

Day 5
[5] - Scare - Sheep, FD, Zach, Tange, (Puns), (Puns), Tony
[2] - Tony - Ben, (Death), Scare
[1] - MZero- (Death), (Scare), Death

Day 6
[6] - MZero - (Puns), Ben, Death, Tange, (Zach), Crescent, (Tony), Tony, Puns
[0] - Ben (Puns), (Puns)
[0] - Tony - (Ben)

Day 7
[3] - Death - (Tange), Zach, Ben, Han
[2] - Zach - Death, Tange
[1] - Han - Crescent
[0] - Tange - (Han)
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

ColZach posted...

Han was just talking about lynching red vs IGCD...and Im pretty sure he lynched IGCD

He did not vote for IGCD. He did say he agreed with me that IGCD looked like scum though, so I'm not sure why he acts like he can't understand my side of things

I totally had reason, though.

you said WHEE LYNCHING IS FUN

DoubleTangicide posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Tange - choosing to vote Red instead of IGCD when they were against each other; choosing to join the MZero plan at personal risk to self (if he understood it)

Dont fucking insult me, man

It wasn't an insult. Half the game didn't care to fucking play that day, and half the game said 'uhh i dont get it' to MZero's role. It was literally a qualifier, not an insult.

Are you trying to tell me lynching is not fun? Specials are hype.

I gave my REASONS before I voted. My reasoning was so strong you agreed with it, Dorko pants
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benjamin3740 posted...

Holy wow, Han. What it takes for this person to be scum is such a backwards way to look for scum. Might as well just be a throwaway post to defend yourself. I could also list all of the stuff I would have done differently if I was scum this game, but I'm not because it doesn't help anyone. Also you left off more important things like "Needs to be a Godfather and a Janitor" on mine and Tange's lists of What it takes for us to be scum.

Whatever you did give me was weird anyway. What do you mean "if I understood it"? I was making plans on how to use Mzero's role a day phase before you were.

Of course it's a backwards way to look at it. That's the point? The question I was asking isn't "why is this person Scum", it's "what does it mean for this person's Townie-seeming things if this person is Scum". There's literally nothing wrong with looking at it that way.

You've been making mountains out of molehills this entire day, and it's very tiring. If you are Town, can you please stop being so bad?

And yes, I did leave that off your lists, that's why I said "feel free to fill in the blanks".

And I just explained it, but the "if they understood it" is literally just a qualifier. You are stating that you did understand it quite well - good. That's Town points for you.
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Ben, please stop making me angry. I want to win this game, but if you're going to be a little shitbag then you all are on your own after I flip Town.

Your reasoning wasn't SO STRONG, it was what 80 other people were saying. Now stop being a little prissy butt babylicker and fucking do some real Scumhunting.

Go look at old days. Go look at the MZero day. Go find anything. Stop being such a waste of space.
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And Jesus FD, at least get a replacement if you're not going to participate. You've posted like 3 times this day.
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Yeah, I only had one drink but apparently that combined with spending way too long lesson planning has made me irate, so I'm going to take a minute to cool down.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Holy wow, Han. What it takes for this person to be scum is such a backwards way to look for scum. Might as well just be a throwaway post to defend yourself. I could also list all of the stuff I would have done differently if I was scum this game, but I'm not because it doesn't help anyone. Also you left off more important things like "Needs to be a Godfather and a Janitor" on mine and Tange's lists of What it takes for us to be scum.

Whatever you did give me was weird anyway. What do you mean "if I understood it"? I was making plans on how to use Mzero's role a day phase before you were.

Of course it's a backwards way to look at it. That's the point? The question I was asking isn't "why is this person Scum", it's "what does it mean for this person's Townie-seeming things if this person is Scum". There's literally nothing wrong with looking at it that way.

You've been making mountains out of molehills this entire day, and it's very tiring. If you are Town, can you please stop being so bad?

And yes, I did leave that off your lists, that's why I said "feel free to fill in the blanks".

And I just explained it, but the "if they understood it" is literally just a qualifier. You are stating that you did understand it quite well - good. That's Town points for you.

Well first i wrote "dumb", then thought that was mean and changed it to backwards. I guess the original version was more accurate. There's a viable way to list "What does it mean if this person is scum". But I won't accept you listing the most arbitrary of things like "choosing to be active". FD and Zach have not been active at all, but they are way more town than you. There are things that matter, and then there are things that are so WIFOM that they hurt and blur the importance of other things.

Mountains out of molehills? You're my top suspect and there are only two people left I will even remotely accept being scum. Today is not the day to idle around and hope for scans
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ben, please stop making me angry. I want to win this game, but if you're going to be a little shitbag then you all are on your own after I flip Town.

Your reasoning wasn't SO STRONG, it was what 80 other people were saying. Now stop being a little prissy butt babylicker and fucking do some real Scumhunting.

Go look at old days. Go look at the MZero day. Go find anything. Stop being such a waste of space.

I dont care what everyone else was thinking. We're talking about me. And I'm talking about this

HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

The good news is, I think scum Red pushes a scum buddy here. It's exactly what he did to keep living in the game me and Death were in. He pushed a scum buddy with minimal evidence to save his butt. And given his evidence towards not liking God seems really tiny to me, I'm pretty confident that if Red is scum, God is scum

This is how I feel, as I'm catching up. Onto last page now;.

At the time you sure thought my reasoning was good. Today you deny that and say "BEN SAID WEE FUN LYNCH".
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I'm choosing not to fight with you anymore, Ben. It's not worth my effort.

Zach, FD, Tange, are any of you planning on playing this game?
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Ben, I didn't think your reasoning was good. I agreed that I thought it looked like it was Red/God as both Scum. If both are the top lynch choices, then you as a Scummate saying that does nothing to really help your position. In fact, it makes you look worse because you kept Red, the Scum in your sights to look good, and kept IGCD, the Town up for lynch, in that duo as well.

(yes, this applies to me too given that situation)
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benjamin3740 posted...

1. TheSultanOfSlam - Sultan
2. RogueNoble - (Leo)
3. Lolo_Guru - Lolo
4. ColZach - Zach
5. AlakazamTrainer - Zam
6. Panthera - Panthera
7. Mzero11 - Mzero
8. pjbasis - Pj
9. Corrik - Corrik
10. ChaosTonyV4 - Tony
11. turbopuns2 - Puns
12. Leafeon13N - Red
13. Forceful_Dragon - FD
14. DoubleTangicide - Tange
15. masterplum - Plum
16. HanOfTheNekos - Han
17. Crescent-Moon - Crescent
19. ScareChan - Loser
20. Benjamin3740 - Mafia God
21. htaeD - (Death)
22. Town MVP eaedwards6400 - Ed

Ben almost literally claimed to be Mafia Godfather on the first page of the game.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

1. TheSultanOfSlam - Sultan
2. RogueNoble - (Leo)
3. Lolo_Guru - Lolo
4. ColZach - Zach
5. AlakazamTrainer - Zam
6. Panthera - Panthera
7. Mzero11 - Mzero
8. pjbasis - Pj
9. Corrik - Corrik
10. ChaosTonyV4 - Tony
11. turbopuns2 - Puns
12. Leafeon13N - Red
13. Forceful_Dragon - FD
14. DoubleTangicide - Tange
15. masterplum - Plum
16. HanOfTheNekos - Han
17. Crescent-Moon - Crescent
19. ScareChan - Loser
20. Benjamin3740 - Mafia God
21. htaeD - (Death)
22. Town MVP eaedwards6400 - Ed

Ben almost literally claimed to be Mafia Godfather on the first page of the game.

Now that would be pretty funny
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I said earlier work was picking up

Currently in bathroom and checking in and catching up

Honestly Ben vs Han seems like a town/town and is starting to look more like it

Aaaaaaa

Please FD

Han, do you think that every living scum would have chosen to get on IGCD over Red? (Not counting Tony who was on a splinter vote)
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Surprisingly, Im probably the 3rd most active player today

I want way more from Zach and FD

FD in particular has been a disappointment as our confirmed town
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Im struggling how yall can complain today, I been posting

Continuing to ISO Ben:

Topic 1:
- Makes joke about Scare being Town
- Makes joke about eaed being Town
- Calls himself Mafia God
- Makes joke about puns being Town
- Makes another joke about puns being Town, jokingly claims Doctor
- Throws a vote on Plum, citing liking puns's personal read
- Calls Zam Town

Topic 2:
- Continues to... soft defend Zam, but says he's fine with him dying
- Votes Corrik
- Has a logical deduction for why Scare is Scummy in relation to how he called people Townish based on Zam being Scum, but not having flipped yet
- Makes joke about FOS
- Throws shade onto plum
- Explains why he voted Corrik
- Panth: "Ben why did you vote Corrik based on something Scare said when you were also setting up a case on Scare being scum?"

Ben: "Oh yeah good question because I meant to mention it after Scare answered the question. I thought that it was odd Scare gave me that information and had been leaving it alone for the most part. Like he told me, but didnt vote Corrik or try to get the other players on board. So at the time of voting Corrik I did have him and Scare linked as potential scum and wanted to vote Corrik while I waited for Scare's reply to my question."

- "Anyway I think out of all the people here I enjoy being mafia the most."
- Responds to Crescent putting slight shade on him

- BEGINS DAY 2 with "Clutch save last night"

I'm going to stop there and go to bed for tonight, but a couple of thoughts about Ben's day 1
- Was very silly. It seemed like too much at times, and honestly felt a little fake.
- Completely missed the mark on Scum. The ONLY Scum he really interacted with (said a little thing about Leo, "does he have the charisma to do this as Scum?") was Zam, and he said "Zam is Town" followed by "Zam is probably still just bad Town" followed by w/e
- Actually posted a good deal, but without seeming like he did anything. Because he didn't really. He had some back-and-forth with Scare, but aside from defending Zam, that was pretty much his whole contribution day 1. Felt rather fluffy.
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ColZach posted...

Im struggling how yall can complain today, I been posting

You've been providing nothing, though. You gotta use the faqs that are logged, old topics, do some digging.

Have you reread Day 1 yet, Zach? If you find the time, it'd be good to revisit that Day 1 and see how people interact, knowing their alignments.

benjamin3740 posted...

Han, do you think that every living scum would have chosen to get on IGCD over Red? (Not counting Tony who was on a splinter vote)

Tange literally voted for Red, tying him with IGCD. The next person was you, who unvoted Red (iirc) and hopped on IGCD. So you took a tie and turned it into a +2 voting Town over Scum. The timing was real convenient, and being so close to the end of the day, it looks more like a 'gotta make a goofy vote to save my scummate' rather than a real move with reasoning. Hell, if you wanted the lynch to be fun, you should've kept the tie there. Tiebreakers are way more fun, and usually pretty helpful.

DoubleTangicide posted...

Surprisingly, Im probably the 3rd most active player today

True, but I'd still like to see more.

In particular, there's a good chance I get lynched today. I will flip Town, so it would be good of you to be looking at who you would push the next day, and having good, evidence-based reasoning.
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Also weird about Ben's day 1 is how he was fixated on Scare. And I don't mean tunneling, I mean joking around, then suspising, then backing off... it was just... really focused on him.
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That is indeed pretty sad looking back at how inaccurate I was. Luckily it proves me town. But that's a pretty WIFOM take~
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benjamin3740 posted...

Luckily it proves me town.

No, it doesn't.
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