Board 8 > Sir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?

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4. ColZach
13. Forceful_Dragon
14. DoubleTangicide
16. HanOfTheNekos
17. Crescent-Moon
20. Benjamin3740
21. htaeD (Death)

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 9 PM EDT on Wednesday.

Talk to me Zach, why do you post so rarely?
You said this In your own words
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I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.
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Because Ive been mad busy.

And quite frankly Day 1 was draining. I very likely should have gotten a replacement for this game given all the nonsense thats been going on IRL, but I thought I could hack it. Which, I honestly have, because Ive been at least as active as you, Death. I believe your excuse is just to slink past each day as scum.

I mean look at your first post today. Aw man, I guess today is death has to answer for EVERYTHING

Zach, I honestly would be disappointed if you were to let a Scummate's feelings get in the way of a good play.

I dont know what Scum said to Zam on the Scumboard. I'm sure they tore into him. But it was clear that Scum weren't happy with Zam claiming Tony's role. That would explain why you were so set on lynching him despite his claims.

You've done little this game to inspire confidence in you. The only thing you have done is mouth off about being confirmed.

So please. Convince me otherwise. Why else aren't you Scum? Who is Scum? Give something.
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Taggage
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benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

I really hate that he posted outside the topic at all. I dont want it to be about this current game.
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ColZach posted...

because Ive been at least as active as you, Death.

I beg to differ. Even accounting for timezones.

Also you just had to turn this around into an attack on me again, didnt you?
Of course my priority is answering questions asked of me. Its a common courtesy for one.. It wasnt as much as I expected admittedly. It just felt like a lot that early in the morning.

(Besides, it feels like everyone is slinking by, except FD. who probably exhausted himself with his zachwall <.<)
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But it is.. a good point Ben brings up. Though I am surprised he got away with it. Thats not to say I want another modkill at this point. But the game feels tainted regardless if Zach is town or scum.
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And that just leads me to thinking the last scum has to be Han.
Though I was starting to like him from what i read here and there.
arghh
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Theres nothing to be taken about that post in regards to this game. You shouldnt assume it was even in relation to this game.

You can beg to differ but it seems like youve been faking content for days now. What impact have you actually had on the game? Even if we simplify my contributions to day 1, what have you done that measures up to that?

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

This I'm almost positive is modkill worthy if it were Zach's intent to affect the game in this manner.

htaeD posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

I really hate that he posted outside the topic at all. I dont want it to be about this current game.

It's why I ignored it.

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

This I'm almost positive is modkill worthy if it were Zach's intent to affect the game in this manner.

Well I doubt he intended to affect anything, he just haphazardly did it. And unfortunately I can't help but meta that
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htaeD posted...

(Besides, it feels like everyone is slinking by, except FD. who probably exhausted himself with his zachwall <.<)

Final thoughts for the day from FD would still be really nice.

ColZach posted...

Because Ive been mad busy.

And quite frankly Day 1 was draining. I very likely should have gotten a replacement for this game given all the nonsense thats been going on IRL, but I thought I could hack it. Which, I honestly have, because Ive been at least as active as you, Death. I believe your excuse is just to slink past each day as scum.

I mean look at your first post today. Aw man, I guess today is death has to answer for EVERYTHING

Do you think Death is more likely scum than Han?
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ColZach posted...

Han implying Im a sociopath makes me want to lynch him tbh

Id say given his lynch pressure on tony I want to vote Death

##vote: Death

I'll take this as a yes?

Also where is Tange

benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

This I'm almost positive is modkill worthy if it were Zach's intent to affect the game in this manner.

Well I doubt he intended to affect anything, he just haphazardly did it. And unfortunately I can't help but meta that

Come up with an explanation for why it makes sense for him to feel that way as Scum, come up with a reason for him to say that unrelated to the game, then ignore it.

I just got through a small panic attack. Going climbing, then need to finish 1 more lesson plan, then I'll spend the rest of the evening seeing if it makes sense for someone else to be Scum.
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I may be unable to post until I get home later.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Also where is Tange

Working
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It's important to remember that Tange and Ben have had bad games. Godfather janitor is totally a possibility.
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tag
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm almost going to stop defending Zach due to all the points against him that I sort of agree with. So I guess I will just lay out everything I saw and the reason I have been calling him town.

Basically, after Tony flipped, he posted in the Mafia General topic "I'm mad. That's all I have to say"

This is an honest reaction to seeing Tony flip scum. I believe he really was mad about that, enough that he felt he just had to post SOMETHING even though it was nighttime.

This I'm almost positive is modkill worthy if it were Zach's intent to affect the game in this manner.

Well I doubt he intended to affect anything, he just haphazardly did it. And unfortunately I can't help but meta that

Come up with an explanation for why it makes sense for him to feel that way as Scum, come up with a reason for him to say that unrelated to the game, then ignore it.

Well. I know it was related to the game given his second post . As for him saying it as scum. Sure it could be a crazy scum play meant to play up his long con. But I really do not think that is what this is. Especially coming from Zach. Who is trying to build up a reputation here
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If that's really the case, then he should just be modkilled, and if Town, we lose the day. But I digress.

Can everyone please post an ordered list of lynch preference? Leave yourself off, but please include FD (even though he should be last in everyone's ranking)
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This is hard because I'm still looking for someone to actually stand out to me as scum and it's not totally happening. This is my lynch list if I had to choose now. But I'm still very indecisive if I would bank on Tange being a Godfather Janitor over lynching Crescent. Though if we got that far and Han and Death were both town then I'm sure my list would change dramatically anyway

Han
Death
Tange
Crescent
Zach
FD
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Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD
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ColZach posted...

Theres nothing to be taken about that post in regards to this game. You shouldnt assume it was even in relation to this game.

You can beg to differ but it seems like youve been faking content for days now. What impact have you actually had on the game? Even if we simplify my contributions to day 1, what have you done that measures up to that?

Your contributions day1 werent that big, dude.
Zam was selfdestructing on his own. Tony was already there, so scum clearly couldnt control zam.

And while I dont like this kind of 'why me' thinking.. It sounds more like you are trying to come up with reasons to not suspect anyone else, even though I cant recall much impact from anyone beyond day1.
(FD not included obv)
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Zach/Han (I am torn now)
Tange
Crescent
Ben
FD
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So instead of actually providing what youve done to contribute to the game you just continue to diminish my own

Fine.

Downsize it as much as you want but what have you done

I also have stated that Han is also sus as hell and at the beginning of the day I posted my thought process as to why everyone else is leagues ahead in terms of looking town

I am trying to think like I once thought as last scum standing (or second to last). Scum would want to not focus on one suspect. Keep the ballot wide, so to speak.
It bothers me that I dont know where everyone stands because of this, but this listing helps

I could use votals too
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ColZach posted...

So instead of actually providing what youve done to contribute to the game you just continue to diminish my own

Fine.

Downsize it as much as you want but what have you done

Ooh
bold

Scary

I have done nothing important perhaps, besides being helpful and trying to get the right people lynched. I dont tend to record my every action. And sometimes, you just cant make a big impact.

Deal with it.
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ColZach posted...

I also have stated that Han is also sus as hell and at the beginning of the day I posted my thought process as to why everyone else is leagues ahead in terms of looking town

I noted that. But you still voted me first, hence my own suspicion.

I also wonder if I am more difficult for scum to get rid of than Han, so scum would want to push me first.
Allthough Han still did have that Tony shade throwing day1.
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Also you're ignoring or not seeing that I am hardly the only one who has doubts about you.
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Worst part is me not being able to see the deadline. Though I suppose my death would still serve town.

Still I have to make a decision before it is too late, and in the end.. I go with this.

##Vote: Colzach

If I get lynched, all I can say is to keep an eye on Tange too.
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Thats a pathetic answer and you dont even have any specific actions.

Trying to get the right people lynched

Like...what?

Ew. Ignoring that he's confirmed town

##Vote: Death
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Death why Zach over anyone else in the game?
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We have 1.5 hours left btw.
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Boo Death is asleep.
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benjamin3740 posted...

We have 1.5 hours left btw.

Thanks for pointing this out. I thought day ended at 10.

I'll be home in a few
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I'd lynch either of Han or Death over Zach today.
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Ok, home.

Gonna do an ISO on the easiest person to ISO - Tange.

FD - 95% chance you're dead tomorrow, so you might want to get your thoughts out as clear as you can here.
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While I'm looking back, here's something Zach said before Zam claimed:

"I find it interesting you brought it up as well(first, Mr. Early bird) but Ill deal with you tomorrow.

Alakazam would you be willing to claim?"

Literally saying he wouldn't worry about me until the next day. Meaning he was SET on Zam, regardless of claim. Zach, care to elaborate on this?
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This is how Tony responded to me on D1 btw:

"Very interesting how youre insinuating a logical conclusion based on literally our last game is scummy.

Almost like youre grasping at any straw you can.

And to be clear, I dont think calling someone by the wrong name is 100% scum, I mispeak all the time.

It was the insistence on an impossible explanation combined with doing it last game.

So...really bad post from Han"

For all you "I would vote Han"ers out there, this is not the defense a Scum makes against a Scummate.
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Leo said this:

"I'm really, really getting sick of driving and living in the north pole. I'm caught up now on the whole topic and a half I missed. Luckily, it doesn't seem like it mattered because I can guarantee you that Alakzam is not watcher. The CRUSADE plan would have worked better if people had done literally anything to progress it when it when I was gone. I admit I didn't think I'd have to personally whip every single vote. Puns, Han, Death, why didn't you actually whip votes on Plum? It makes it feel like your votes were entirely for show and not in support of our glorious inquisition! Something to look at tomorrow, but for now...sometimes, just sometimes, you Lynch All Liars Especially If They're Acting Scummy AF In The Same Way As Last Game Where They Were Ignored And Won As Scum,or LALEITASAITSWALGWTWIAWAS for short."

Thought it was worth pointing out, since puns, Death, and I all hopped on Leo's 'brigade'. I guess the question is, would Death have hopped on as Scum for any reason? (and y'all can ask this question of me too). Plum immediately responded saying 'Leo is Scum', which was funny. Poor plum - guy played a great D1.
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I agree that by far the most incriminating thing about Zach is the post where he told Han that he had also caught Tony as scum but was not bragging about it. It reeks of him having too much information and knowing Tony is scum.

If it wasn't for that damn post about Tony and his insisting he's offended by what scum did, I would be okay with lynching him. But I will hate myself forever if I let him die and he's town.
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DoubleTangicide posted...

4. ColZach: he has an innocent scan on him. Im willing to believe hes town

Tange passing Zach off as Town. Why was it so easy for him to do that? With numbers dwindling down and one scum left you'd think any town would try to have a firm idea of who remaining can be scum. If Zach flips town it's something to remember.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

This is how Tony responded to me on D1 btw:

"Very interesting how youre insinuating a logical conclusion based on literally our last game is scummy.

Almost like youre grasping at any straw you can.

And to be clear, I dont think calling someone by the wrong name is 100% scum, I mispeak all the time.

It was the insistence on an impossible explanation combined with doing it last game.

So...really bad post from Han"

For all you "I would vote Han"ers out there, this is not the defense a Scum makes against a Scummate.

I'm looking back over things I pointed out about you just in this day phase and am already realizing that I dont want to lynch you.

My problem is so many town reads and not enough scum ones ;0;
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