Board 8 > Sir Chris' Music Mafia Topic 15: Why Can't We Be Friends?

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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:11:24 PM
#51:


Death was on Zam early on for being Scummy, though he didn't push it as hard as he could have. He also threw shade on Tony, and a little on Red. It's like... almost too convenient. But the way he played topic 1 sure feels as Towny as it did the first time I read it. However, I'm not the biggest fan of Zam's reactions towards Death. Too much praise/no antagonism.

My main issue with T1 Death is that, despite me feeling that he's Townish, he posts too much about Scum without being committed. Anyway, flipping back to Tange ISO. But one more thing.

Holy shit.

Me: "Modpoking is a power I feel should be reserved for hosts."

Dumey: "@HanOfTheNekos

sorry, just being a jerk."

Me: "Dumey's probably Scum."

Ugggghhhh how did I not press that?
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:13:03 PM
#52:


benjamin3740 posted...
If it wasn't for that damn post about Tony and his insisting he's offended by what scum did, I would be okay with lynching him. But I will hate myself forever if I let him die and he's town.


My main issue is that I'm disappointed that Zach would even take this stance. Like, don't be a jerk to Zam on the Scumboard, but you better as FUCK bus the shit out of him that D1. Plum wasn't the only person who said that Zam was being Scummy from the beginning. The writing was on the wall, even if I was blind to it at the time.
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:14:54 PM
#53:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Leo said this:

"I'm really, really getting sick of driving and living in the north pole. I'm caught up now on the whole topic and a half I missed. Luckily, it doesn't seem like it mattered because I can guarantee you that Alakzam is not watcher. The CRUSADE plan would have worked better if people had done literally anything to progress it when it when I was gone. I admit I didn't think I'd have to personally whip every single vote. Puns, Han, Death, why didn't you actually whip votes on Plum? It makes it feel like your votes were entirely for show and not in support of our glorious inquisition! Something to look at tomorrow, but for now...sometimes, just sometimes, you Lynch All Liars Especially If They're Acting Scummy AF In The Same Way As Last Game Where They Were Ignored And Won As Scum,or LALEITASAITSWALGWTWIAWAS for short."

Thought it was worth pointing out, since puns, Death, and I all hopped on Leo's 'brigade'. I guess the question is, would Death have hopped on as Scum for any reason? (and y'all can ask this question of me too). Plum immediately responded saying 'Leo is Scum', which was funny. Poor plum - guy played a great D1.

I think it's possible Death could have made those actions as scum, because I remember it being a pretty strange vote

First he made a post kind of defending Leo, saying that even though a lot of people find Leo scummy, he thinks applying pressure is a very good strategy. Then in a post after he said "In that case, I might as well do this ##Vote: Plum"

So it was almost like he caught himself and voted just to fit with the post he made defending Leo's ideas.
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:17:59 PM
#54:


Remember when Death explained why Zam is scummy and Zam called it a great post? I wonder what that means.

And reading Death's posts to Alakazam's praise, he did a lot of "..." and seemed kind of frustrated at Zam to me. Honestly IT COULD BE SOMETHING
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:24:07 PM
#55:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Why the hell do I keep getting Mzero and ColZach mixed up this game

Oh did he do this at some point before during the game?
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:28:27 PM
#56:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Order of unconfirmed Id like lynched:

Death
Han
Zach
Crescent


DoubleTangicide posted...
Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD

I guess Zach is making himself look worse today. Why did Han move up above Death ?
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:29:56 PM
#57:


Red's list of 'confirmed' players:

(6)
4. ColZach
10. ChaosTonyV4
11. turbopuns2
13. Forceful_Dragon
19. ScareChan
22. Town MVP eaedwards6400

Notably included Tony. Also included Zach.

Another Red post:
Red posted...

1. TheSultanOfSlam
3. IfGodCouldDie
7. Mzero11
8. pjbasis
14. DoubleTangicide
18. Edumey
21. htaeD (Death)

Its a pretty large inactive list and I was actually even waffling with putting Han on or off of it but this game has honestly been pretty on par with my recent recollection of his activity(Basically, I think hes actually tried in limited time). The list is pretty much a nonfactor list and guaranteed to have 2, if not even 3 scum in it.


Only one of those people has popped Scum so far. Would ScumRed put only 1 Scum on a list where he says 2 is guaranteed?

Tange

- Was in car crash
- Came back and voted Zach. Liked my reasoning, liked Leo's reasoning, also said Zach was Scummy for talking 'bout NL
- Was voting Zach for claiming to be Indy for 'too long'
- Switched to Zam without any words when Zam claimed to be Scum

That's it through Topic 2, basically.

This post:
Tange posted...
Wow

I dont know how I skipped over basically everything that mattered today in the first read-through

But upon re-reading it, I guess I missed a lot.

All that being said, I dont see a scum player doing what Scare is doing right now. It makes zero sense if hes scum to put himself out like that. Even if its a 1-v-1 trade off, that doesnt exactly help scum in the short or long run

Therefore, I agree with him

##Vote: Panth


This was in response to Scare claiming he SCANNED Panth Scum. (and Scare ninja'd Tange on this post saying he's not actually Jack)

But that phrasing. Tange said he AGREED with Scare. Said it makes no sense for Scum to do that. Scum Tange would know that Scare is Town, and would know that Panth is Town... which is why he's 'agreeing' instead of just following the scan?

Tange posted...
Hmmmm

Not only was Panths vote not on Confirmed Scum Alakazam

He only voted Leo at all.

Could possibly be a scum bus attempt early on?


Also accepts Leo as Scum immediately, but not 'agreeing' that Leo is Scum. Just accepts it, while trying to argue for Panth to be Scum.

Continuing on:
- Called out Corrik on nonsense
- Called out Ben on calling eaed a Roleblocker, and said 'he's not a RB, he's a jailer'
- Defended himself about attacking Scare
- Asks Red if he really thinks Scum are hiding in inactives
- That awful post where he joined me on my post against MZero
- Comments on some irony

Tange said...

Also, what if Dumey is our scum RB and Panth is telling the truth?


Was there any mention at all about Dumey being a RB before this post? I know we've talked about it before, but it's too on the nose.

Gonna continue to ISO, but want to post this for now, because some good stuff here.
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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 8:30:24 PM
#58:


benjamin3740 posted...
DoubleTangicide posted...

4. ColZach: he has an innocent scan on him. Im willing to believe hes town

Tange passing Zach off as Town. Why was it so easy for him to do that? With numbers dwindling down and one scum left you'd think any town would try to have a firm idea of who remaining can be scum. If Zach flips town it's something to remember.


Weve been over this

I kept getting zack and zero mixed up
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:30:26 PM
#59:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Honestly, Im not liking Zach more and more as this day has gone on. Im still not 100% sure hes scum or that Han is town

Im probably leaning

Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD
Me


Oh I see you already made this post explaining those changes between the two.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:33:45 PM
#60:


Hey, remember when Crescent got "derp"-confirmed?

Tange posted...

I think a lot falls into place if we lynch Panth
I still like Hans argument against Mzero

I place scare, Hans and Puns firmly in confirmed town in my mind


Tange posted...

Im just spitballing there. We know dumey has blocking powers because Corrik was blocked.

That doesnt necessarily mean hes a jail keeper as he claims.

Actually, if I remember right, wasnt there some discussion before he claimed jailkeeper?


WHAT THE HELL WHY AREN'T WE LYNCH TANGE ALREADY
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:34:14 PM
#61:


HanOfTheNekos posted...


Was there any mention at all about Dumey being a RB before this post? I know we've talked about it before, but it's too on the nose.

Gonna continue to ISO, but want to post this for now, because some good stuff here.

Well...he has an excuse for that you know. He got Eaed and Dumey mixed up too >.>

Though that one there is more evidence for since he ran with it for multiple posts I believe
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:36:24 PM
#62:


HanOfTheNekos posted...


Tange posted...

Im just spitballing there. We know dumey has blocking powers because Corrik was blocked.

That doesnt necessarily mean hes a jail keeper as he claims.

Actually, if I remember right, wasnt there some discussion before he claimed jailkeeper?


WHAT THE HELL WHY AREN'T WE LYNCH TANGE ALREADY

That's another post where he said DUmey instead of Eaed
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:36:40 PM
#63:


Yeah but... that's REALLY convenient.

I really want FD, Crescent, and Zach to pop in again soon. Deadline is approaching. I thought deadline was 10PM, so they might as well.

But I don't want to tag them to get their attention
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:41:04 PM
#64:


Oh crap we only have 20 minutes

Well I like digging into Tange and he has a lot he can try to answer, but I'm kind of afraid to lynch him. He HAS to be Godfather Janitor to be scum. It's kind of like how Puns defended Tony on the whim that there was the exact roles he named. It just doesnt feel right. Especially when no roles have flipped with two random roles together like that. And with Unscannable already flipped
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:42:41 PM
#65:


Also if their Godfather was scanned they probably would have shot Sheep and not worried about him scanning Red. I think they kept Sheep alive because they were desperate to get some sort of benefit out of Sheep. Getting one scanned would have been enough, right? Especially after the unscannable flipped
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:44:10 PM
#66:


Welp, I'll go figure out the votals *glares at hosts*
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:46:02 PM
#67:


benjamin3740 posted...
Oh crap we only have 20 minutes

Well I like digging into Tange and he has a lot he can try to answer, but I'm kind of afraid to lynch him. He HAS to be Godfather Janitor to be scum. It's kind of like how Puns defended Tony on the whim that there was the exact roles he named. It just doesnt feel right. Especially when no roles have flipped with two random roles together like that. And with Unscannable already flipped

Wait this day is ending at 9? I just got home from work.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:47:11 PM
#68:


puns posted...

Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.


- I like this point by puns
- Tange comes in way later, and says "I think the right push is Panth". Pushing for the protection Jack.
- Tange does the Towniest thing he did all game and votes Red over IGCD.
- Then Ben makes his "I LIKE FUN LYNCHES" crappost
- Then:
Tange posted...

......if he flips town this looks SO BAD


Tange is saying that about Ben, who just flipped onto IGCD. Tange, if Scum, knows IGCD is Town and is setting up Ben to take the fall?
- Ben, Scare, then Tony all pushed IGCD to happen instead of Red. Ben DOES look real bad in this
- After the IGCD lynch, Tange started posting a lot, misunderstood the whole RBing-the-Mason-Recruiter thing, and Ben looked pretty bad.

Man, the game really just completely flips at that point.

Midway through chapter 8 and I think I'm out of time.
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:48:00 PM
#69:



[3] - Death - Tange, Zach, Ben
[1] - Zach - Death
[1] - Han - Crescent

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 9 PM EDT on Wednesday.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:48:27 PM
#70:


Crescent-Moon posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Oh crap we only have 20 minutes

Well I like digging into Tange and he has a lot he can try to answer, but I'm kind of afraid to lynch him. He HAS to be Godfather Janitor to be scum. It's kind of like how Puns defended Tony on the whim that there was the exact roles he named. It just doesnt feel right. Especially when no roles have flipped with two random roles together like that. And with Unscannable already flipped

Wait this day is ending at 9? I just got home from work.


Yeah, we have a 47 hour day.

@Forceful_Dragon
@ColZach

dont miss end of day pls
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:50:00 PM
#71:


Puns had a laundry list he made against Tange, then still left him off his final list.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:50:06 PM
#72:


benjamin3740 posted...
This is hard because I'm still looking for someone to actually stand out to me as scum and it's not totally happening. This is my lynch list if I had to choose now. But I'm still very indecisive if I would bank on Tange being a Godfather Janitor over lynching Crescent. Though if we got that far and Han and Death were both town then I'm sure my list would change dramatically anyway

Han
Death
Tange
Crescent
Zach
FD

DoubleTangicide posted...
Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD


Both of them are on Death right now.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:50:40 PM
#73:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Puns had a laundry list he made against Tange, then still left him off his final list.


Did he say why? He did flip Ben in the end.

I assume he flipped Ben when he got to the crux of the IGCD lynch over Red.
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:51:07 PM
#74:


Well I still dont want to kill Zach. And I kind of want to give Tange the benefit of the doubt because of the scan on him. I would prefer to just go for Death.
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:51:08 PM
#75:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
This is hard because I'm still looking for someone to actually stand out to me as scum and it's not totally happening. This is my lynch list if I had to choose now. But I'm still very indecisive if I would bank on Tange being a Godfather Janitor over lynching Crescent. Though if we got that far and Han and Death were both town then I'm sure my list would change dramatically anyway

Han
Death
Tange
Crescent
Zach
FD

DoubleTangicide posted...
Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD


Both of them are on Death right now.

That's um... Interesting, yes.
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:51:43 PM
#76:


benjamin3740 posted...
Well I still dont want to kill Zach. And I kind of want to give Tange the benefit of the doubt because of the scan on him. I would prefer to just go for Death.

Why are you voting Death immediately after putting Han before Death?
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:52:28 PM
#77:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
Puns had a laundry list he made against Tange, then still left him off his final list.


Did he say why? He did flip Ben in the end.

I assume he flipped Ben when he got to the crux of the IGCD lynch over Red.

Puns had so many lists it's kind of hard to keep track of them all.

I'm annoyed because I really don't have time to get my bearings together before deadline. I haven't even changed yet.
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:52:32 PM
#78:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
This is hard because I'm still looking for someone to actually stand out to me as scum and it's not totally happening. This is my lynch list if I had to choose now. But I'm still very indecisive if I would bank on Tange being a Godfather Janitor over lynching Crescent. Though if we got that far and Han and Death were both town then I'm sure my list would change dramatically anyway

Han
Death
Tange
Crescent
Zach
FD

DoubleTangicide posted...
Zach
Han
Death
Crescent
Ben
FD


Both of them are on Death right now.

I already made it clear somewhere in this topic when I was re-reading this day and decided I dont want to lynch you over Death anymore
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:53:05 PM
#79:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Yeah, those tracks dont tell us much, unfortunately

As for Whos left:

4. ColZach: he has an innocent scan on him. Im willing to believe hes town

13. Forceful_Dragon: theres no way Chris puts a banned role in this game. FD as mayor is town.

14. DoubleTangicide: Im town, with a cop innocent scan on me. I know my play hasnt exactly inspired much confidence, but I am town.

16. HanOfTheNekos: Im not going to lie, hes kind of felt aloof for the first few days. However, yesterday he really came to play and it resulted in us lynching scum. Im willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but Id like to see more of yesterday and less of the first couple days from him

17. Crescent-Moon: has she claimed? I forget. Remind me what it was if she did. I dont teally have too much to say about her ok be honest. Except meow.

20. Benjamin3740: he also has an innocent scan on him, and since I have no reason not to believe those are accurate, Im willing to call him town.

21. htaeD (Death): I can never really read death to be honest. He hasnt been super active (I know, Im one to talk) but Im not sure that makes him scummy.

So given our scans/confirmed power, scum has to be in this group:

Death
Crescent
Han

Out of those three, I think Im most wary of death

##Vote: Death

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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:53:55 PM
#80:


benjamin3740 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
This is how Tony responded to me on D1 btw:

"Very interesting how youre insinuating a logical conclusion based on literally our last game is scummy.

Almost like youre grasping at any straw you can.

And to be clear, I dont think calling someone by the wrong name is 100% scum, I mispeak all the time.

It was the insistence on an impossible explanation combined with doing it last game.

So...really bad post from Han"

For all you "I would vote Han"ers out there, this is not the defense a Scum makes against a Scummate.

I'm looking back over things I pointed out about you just in this day phase and am already realizing that I dont want to lynch you.

My problem is so many town reads and not enough scum ones ;0;

This is when, Crescent
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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 8:54:35 PM
#81:


##Unvote

##Vote: Zach

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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:55:19 PM
#82:


And I also voted Death specifically because he voted Zach despite agreeing with my reasoning for Zach being town. Zach seems like the easy kill. Death even told Zach that a lot of people suspect him
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:55:30 PM
#83:


It sure would've been nice to get more from FD than just a single wall.

If he's scum lawyer can we lynch the host?
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:56:10 PM
#84:


benjamin3740 posted...
Zach seems like the easy kill.


DoubleTangicide posted...
##Unvote

##Vote: Zach

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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 8:56:25 PM
#85:


Crescent-Moon posted...
It sure would've been nice to get more from FD than just a single wall.

If he's scum lawyer can we lynch the host?


I vote yes
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:56:43 PM
#86:


Like anyone who AGREES WITH MY POINT and then votes Zach anyway was either lying to me that they agreed or is lying to themselves and voting Zach because it's easy and no one will hate you for it after. EXCEPT ME THAT IS
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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 8:57:08 PM
#87:


Tell me

What has he done

Why would anyone think he is town

Without bringing up Day 1
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:57:21 PM
#88:


What was your point again? Cliffnotes it for me
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:57:25 PM
#89:


I don't know, Crescent.

I don't want to lynch Zach anymore. I don't really want to lynch Death. I don't want to lynch you.

Tange had the absolute worst first half of game.

Ben wasn't great, but his role helping push IGCD over Red was HUGE.
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:57:54 PM
#90:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Tell me

What has he done

Why would anyone think he is town

Without bringing up Day 1

What have you done other than vote Red day 3 with reasoning that went against everyone else's?
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:57:56 PM
#91:


Crescent-Moon posted...
What was your point again? Cliffnotes it for me


Zach posted in discussion topic presumably about the game and it's being meta'd.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:58:26 PM
#92:


##Vote: Tange

I think this is my choice.
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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 8:58:50 PM
#93:


Crescent-Moon posted...
DoubleTangicide posted...
Tell me

What has he done

Why would anyone think he is town

Without bringing up Day 1

What have you done other than vote Red day 3 with reasoning that went against everyone else's?


At least admitted I havent been the greatest and rested on that laurel
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:58:56 PM
#94:


2 death
1 zach
1 han
1 tange
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:58:57 PM
#95:


DoubleTangicide posted...
Tell me

What has he done

Why would anyone think he is town

Without bringing up Day 1

Do you think if he is Town he would have done much more? Legitmate question because I've never played with Town him
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 8:59:29 PM
#96:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
2 death
1 zach
1 han
1 tange

2 are on Zach
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HanOfTheNekos
08/22/18 8:59:49 PM
#97:


2 death
2 zach
1 han
1 tange

sorry
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Crescent-Moon
08/22/18 8:59:57 PM
#98:


And I didn't have enough time to prepare so I'm totally freaking out right now, just wonderful.

If it's a 2-2 tie that means the tiebreakers are.. Me and Han?
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benjamin3740
08/22/18 9:00:00 PM
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DoubleTangicide
08/22/18 9:00:10 PM
#100:


Yes
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