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Banjo2553 08/17/18 8:48:42 PM #1:	To this day I'm still baffled by this. He's DK's Bowser! Just because he hasn't shown up in Retro's games doesn't mean he isn't relevant or popular anymore. Retro just wanted to try something new and didn't want to be seen as copying Rare. At least they've been proven wrong though. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:907075438] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>To this day I'm still baffled by this. He's DK's Bowser! Just because he hasn't shown up in Retro's games doesn't mean he isn't relevant or popular anymore. Retro just wanted to try something new and didn't want to be seen as copying Rare. At least they've been proven wrong though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/17/18 8:53:18 PM #2:	He was literally one of the top requests since the Brawl days, especially after Diddy got in. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:907075626] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>He was literally one of the top requests since the Brawl days, especially after Diddy got in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/17/18 8:54:43 PM #3:	Well after so long with nothing it seemed like he wasn't being considered. Ridley changed everything though. With Chrom and K Rool it's very obvious that they are taking a much different approach to selecting newcomers now. And for the Better. --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:907075691] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>Well after so long with nothing it seemed like he wasn't being considered. Ridley changed everything though. With Chrom and K Rool it's very obvious that they are taking a much different approach to selecting newcomers now. And for the Better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 08/17/18 8:56:05 PM #4:	Phantom_Nook posted... He was literally one of the top requests since the Brawl days, especially after Diddy got in. Exactly. DK, Diddy, and K. Rool seems like absolute perfect playable representation in Smash for the series. Some people wanted Dixie as a clone of Diddy over someone potentially unique like K. Rool, simply because she appeared in Tropical Freeze. What? --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:907075757] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>He was literally one of the top requests since the Brawl days, especially after Diddy got in.</quote> Exactly. DK, Diddy, and K. Rool seems like absolute perfect playable representation in Smash for the series. Some people wanted Dixie as a clone of Diddy over someone potentially unique like K. Rool, simply because she appeared in Tropical Freeze. What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 8:56:51 PM #5:	Banjo2553 posted... He's DK's Bowser! DK's antagonist is Mario <_< <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907075789] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote>He's DK's Bowser! </quote> DK's antagonist is Mario <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 08/17/18 8:58:17 PM #6:	People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up. --- Currently playing: Psychonauts, Conker: Live & Reloaded In limbo: Strider, Jet Force Gemini <cite>davyheinz posted [p:907075855] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 08/17/18 8:59:54 PM #7:	Skye Reynolds posted... Banjo2553 posted... He's DK's Bowser! DK's antagonist is Jumpman <_< ftfy --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:907075919] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote>He's DK's Bowser! </quote> DK's antagonist is Jumpman <_<</quote> ftfy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/17/18 9:02:30 PM #8:	davyheinz posted... People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up. Seriously. Imagine caring so much about Something so trivial. Imagine even whining and complaining about what characters are in or out...with over a hundred fucking characters Beyond sad. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:907076010] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up.</quote> Seriously. Imagine caring so much about Something so trivial. Imagine even whining and complaining about what characters are in or out...with over a hundred fucking characters Beyond sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/17/18 9:04:28 PM #9:	They definitely have a mortal villains type thing going on. I expect Eggman to show up, or Metal Sonic. --- https://imgur.com/3PWjCdY https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:907076102] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>They definitely have a mortal villains type thing going on. I expect Eggman to show up, or Metal Sonic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 9:05:15 PM #11:	Tropicalwood posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Banjo2553 posted... He's DK's Bowser! DK's antagonist is Jumpman <_< ftfy Technically, he was Mario in Donkey Kong Jr., the game where antagonist Mario held Donkey Kong captive. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907076132] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote>He's DK's Bowser! </quote> DK's antagonist is Jumpman <_<</quote> ftfy</quote> Technically, he was Mario in Donkey Kong Jr., the game where antagonist Mario held Donkey Kong captive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kajagogo 08/17/18 9:14:21 PM #13:	"X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash." I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again. --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:907076515] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><quote>"X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash."</quote> I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tappor 08/17/18 9:15:23 PM #14:	Kajagogo posted... "X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash." I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again. Smash revived Xenoblade, for example --- *Still, Move Forward!* <cite>Tappor posted [p:907076551] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kajagogo posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash."</quote> I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again.</quote> Smash revived Xenoblade, for example</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/17/18 9:16:02 PM #15:	Tappor posted... Kajagogo posted... "X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash." I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again. Smash revived Xenoblade, for example Nobody gave a fuck in North America about Fire Emblem until Melee. --- https://imgur.com/3PWjCdY https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:907076584] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tappor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kajagogo posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash."</quote> I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again.</quote> Smash revived Xenoblade, for example</quote> Nobody gave a fuck in North America about Fire Emblem until Melee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/17/18 9:16:30 PM #16:	you know who is popular and relevant enough though? goku <cite>Reis posted [p:907076601] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>you know who is popular and relevant enough though? goku</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/17/18 9:19:48 PM #17:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Tappor posted... Kajagogo posted... "X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash." I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again. Smash revived Xenoblade, for example Nobody gave a fuck in North America about Fire Emblem until Melee. I still don't really know who Mr. Game and Watch is. Also had no fucking idea who Ness was back in the 64 days. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:907076727] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tappor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kajagogo posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"X isn't popular/relevant enough to be in Smash."</quote> I don't get why people say that either. By putting them in Smash, it will make them popular (maybe)/relevant again.</quote> Smash revived Xenoblade, for example</quote> Nobody gave a fuck in North America about Fire Emblem until Melee.</quote> I still don't really know who Mr. Game and Watch is. Also had no fucking idea who Ness was back in the 64 days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 08/17/18 10:02:48 PM #18:	RedWhiteBlue posted... davyheinz posted... People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up. Sakurai caved into Ridley demands... I dont think he has actually ever said that. He also wouldnt necessarily do it because Metroid needs more reps or whatever excuse people imagine. Samus alone for two games, and ZSS (not even a separate character in Brawl) was in two games. 2 reps over 4 Smash games. Now Ridley and Dark Samus are included, thats 100% more Metroid characters in just one game. Its not all rhyme and reason. --- Currently playing: Psychonauts, Conker: Live & Reloaded In limbo: Strider, Jet Force Gemini <cite>davyheinz posted [p:907078648] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>People always make up the dumbest fucking reasons for characters to be included or not. Sakurai doesnt abide by the stupid rules people make up.</quote> Sakurai caved into Ridley demands...</quote> I dont think he has actually ever said that. He also wouldnt necessarily do it because Metroid needs more reps or whatever excuse people imagine. Samus alone for two games, and ZSS (not even a separate character in Brawl) was in two games. 2 reps over 4 Smash games. Now Ridley and Dark Samus are included, thats 100% more Metroid characters in just one game. Its not all rhyme and reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 08/17/18 10:34:58 PM #19:	davyheinz posted... I dont think he has actually ever said that. He specifically said he added Ridley due to fan demand, noting his massive popularity in the west. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:907080089] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think he has actually ever said that.</quote> He specifically said he added Ridley due to fan demand, noting his massive popularity in the west.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Acceleration 08/17/18 10:38:05 PM #20:	K Rool is still incredibly dumb. Im sad that he got in. <cite>Acceleration posted [p:907080213] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>K Rool is still incredibly dumb. Im sad that he got in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 10:47:24 PM #21:	King K. Rool is kinda neat. I don't begrudge him being in Smash. It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need? I'm just salty that Wart never returned. Nintendo has no idea how much it messed with kids in America that Bowser was just randomly replaced in the second of the four major Super Mario platformers. Five if you include Yoshi's Island. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907080624] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>King K. Rool is kinda neat. I don't begrudge him being in Smash. It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need? I'm just salty that Wart never returned. Nintendo has no idea how much it messed with kids in America that Bowser was just randomly replaced in the second of the four major Super Mario platformers. Five if you include Yoshi's Island.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/17/18 10:49:54 PM #22:	Skye Reynolds posted... It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need? five out of hundreds is clearly too much. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:907080745] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need?</quote> five out of hundreds is clearly too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 11:00:59 PM #23:	Phantom_Nook posted... Skye Reynolds posted... It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need? five out of hundreds is clearly too much. I guess I haven't played enough Nintendo franchises. I don't know who Kid Icarus or Captain Falcon's rivals are. I'm pretty sure Pokemon doesn't have a central antagonist. I never played a Fire Emblem game. Punch-Out's main bad guy isn't fat or an animal (until Wii). Mother Brain and Ridley are fairly skinny. Ganondorf is lean, but I'm much more familiar with the NES / SNES era games than the later ones. Even so, having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much; especially since those characters tend to be the antagonists of Nintendo's most celebrated characters. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907081262] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>It's just... after Bowser, Wart, (pig) Gannon, and Dedede, it's like how many fat evil anthropomorphic animal antagonists does Nintendo need?</quote> five out of hundreds is clearly too much.</quote> I guess I haven't played enough Nintendo franchises. I don't know who Kid Icarus or Captain Falcon's rivals are. I'm pretty sure Pokemon doesn't have a central antagonist. I never played a Fire Emblem game. Punch-Out's main bad guy isn't fat or an animal (until Wii). Mother Brain and Ridley are fairly skinny. Ganondorf is lean, but I'm much more familiar with the NES / SNES era games than the later ones. Even so, having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much; especially since those characters tend to be the antagonists of Nintendo's most celebrated characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 11:04:54 PM #24:	The only thing I could really compare it to would be like if DC Comics had two or three characters who were slight variations of the Joker. You could argue that those are a few characters out of dozens of heroes and villains. But if two of those Joker variants are the arch rivals of Superman and Green Lantern, then it starts to feel like every major superhero is getting their own Joker to contend with and the ones who don't have a Joker are the exception rather than the rule. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907081421] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote>The only thing I could really compare it to would be like if DC Comics had two or three characters who were slight variations of the Joker. You could argue that those are a few characters out of dozens of heroes and villains. But if two of those Joker variants are the arch rivals of Superman and Green Lantern, then it starts to feel like every major superhero is getting their own Joker to contend with and the ones who don't have a Joker are the exception rather than the rule.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/17/18 11:06:14 PM #25:	Skye Reynolds posted... having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much not really, no. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:907081483] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much</quote> not really, no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/17/18 11:25:34 PM #26:	Phantom_Nook posted... Skye Reynolds posted... having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much not really, no. Like I said it my last post, it is when those characters are the antagonists of your major players. If you look at Nintendo's top six heroes -- Mario, Link, Pikachu, Samus, Kirby, and Donkey Kong -- half of them have fat anthropomorphic animal antagonists. Ganondorf has surpassed pig Ganon, but then King K. Rule has been left by the wayside as well. And as much as it pains me to say so, it's perhaps for the best that it happened that way. I don't dislike King K. Rule as a character, but he just sort of falls into last place when compared to the other heavyset animal antagonists. He doesn't have the personality of a Bowser or a King Dedede nor the menace of pig Ganon or Wart. He's not bad. He's just the weakest link. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907082329] in "King... [t:76912776]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote> having five bad guys who fit the same relative description is a bit much</quote> not really, no.</quote> Like I said it my last post, it is when those characters are the antagonists of your major players. If you look at Nintendo's top six heroes -- Mario, Link, Pikachu, Samus, Kirby, and Donkey Kong -- half of them have fat anthropomorphic animal antagonists. Ganondorf has surpassed pig Ganon, but then King K. Rule has been left by the wayside as well. And as much as it pains me to say so, it's perhaps for the best that it happened that way. I don't dislike King K. Rule as a character, but he just sort of falls into last place when compared to the other heavyset animal antagonists. He doesn't have the personality of a Bowser or a King Dedede nor the menace of pig Ganon or Wart. He's not bad. He's just the weakest link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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