Board 8 > Sir Chris Music Mafia topic 9: Time for a party....

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Also never following Puns onto a lynch again :^)

kidding
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turbopuns2 posted...

red, real talk

How aren't you scum?

Because I'm town?

What exactly have i done to deserve a scum label?

Did i remotely derail a zam lynch? Did i do anything but call leo scum(panth and leo both looked equally dead but we knew leo wasn't rber).

And last nights fiasco? I grabbed the wrong guy but you know damn well I'm right and scum was idling like heck before i got a bit of my fire back. They were quite content to just sit there and watch me get lynched. That plays a lot in me getting ticked off when sheep started insinuating roleblocker for me earlier. You literally saw scum try to end the day with me dead.

##Unvote
##Vote: Dumey
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benjamin3740 posted...

Also never following Puns onto a lynch again :^)

kidding

That was a damn good special.

Leafeon13N posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

red, real talk

How aren't you scum?

Because I'm town?

What exactly have i done to deserve a scum label?

Did i remotely derail a zam lynch? Did i do anything but call leo scum(panth and leo both looked equally dead but we knew leo wasn't rber).

And last nights fiasco? I grabbed the wrong guy but you know damn well I'm right and scum was idling like heck before i got a bit of my fire back. They were quite content to just sit there and watch me get lynched. That plays a lot in me getting ticked off when sheep started insinuating roleblocker for me earlier. You literally saw scum try to end the day with me dead.

So you arent town are because you didnt stop town from lynching scum.
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DoubleTangicide posted...

So you arent town are because you didnt stop town from lynching scum.

You are misreading or misinterpreting something here.

Red posted...

Did i remotely derail a zam lynch?

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Leafeon13N posted...

You literally saw scum try to end the day with me dead.

Hmm...

Well, for one, Dumey is scum, so that's one who wasn't trying to end the day with you dead. I'm also pretty sure Sultan is scum, so that puts maybe two of them trying to kill you? I wouldn't exactly call that scum going out of their way to kill you at the end of the day, even if you are town. Who on your lynch would you pick out as doing that?
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Tange i dont even know what you are arguing here.

I think you are misinterpreting what i wrote but i have no idea.

Zam was sum

Town lynched zam day 1

Your reasoning for why you are town is because you didnt derail the zam lynch

So your reason for being town is that you did not prevent town from lynching scum
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Sheep007 posted...

Second of all, Dumey's argument is that Sultan would have been blocked by Scum instead of me? I don't have a bloody clue where the concept of two scum blockers or whatever has come from, given there's been literally no indication of it thus far, and the likelihood he's either lying through his teeth or Eaed jailed him is really high. Dumey's somehow attempting to make it look like if he's scum him lying is bad on me? That's utter tripe.

First off, you're lying about what I've said. Sultan claimed he was blocked. If he's town and scum want to kill Eaed, then sure he gets blocked here. But blocked over you is silly.

Second, Tony and Sultan have both been blocked, where you haven't. Two blocks on the table. Misrepresenting data is wrong. You seem to be implying here that you know Sultan is scum and lied about his block.
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turbopuns2 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Also never following Puns onto a lynch again :^)

kidding

That was a damn good special.

isnt b8 special only D1? i seem to remember arguments about this in the past
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DoubleTangicide posted...

Zam was sum

Town lynched zam day 1

Your reasoning for why you are town is because you didnt derail the zam lynch

So your reason for being town is that you did not prevent town from lynching scum

Killing scum is the goal of the game tange.

EDumey posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Also never following Puns onto a lynch again :^)

kidding

That was a damn good special.

isnt b8 special only D1? i seem to remember arguments about this in the past

Turns out every community does this

But they call it cfd, Chinese fire drill
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No shit Sherlock

But you are saying the reason you are not town

Is that because you DID NOT PREVENT TOWN FROM LYNCHING SCUM

Thats a godawful reasoning for you being town
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Sheep007 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

You literally saw scum try to end the day with me dead.

Hmm...

Well, for one, Dumey is scum, so that's one who wasn't trying to end the day with you dead. I'm also pretty sure Sultan is scum, so that puts maybe two of them trying to kill you? I wouldn't exactly call that scum going out of their way to kill you at the end of the day, even if you are town. Who on your lynch would you pick out as doing that?

As i said earlier, i gave them an opportunity. The only thing better for scum than one town being lynched is two town up for lynch. Hell we had that happen at least twice last game(i forget day 2 votals there).

He is trying to say if he were scum the zam lynch would have not gotten out of hand
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benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns2 - Puns is a good boy. The Leo bust did not seem fake. Especially since it was such a random chance bluff that broke Leo, as opposed to a more co-ordinated setup.

What does a "more co-ordinated" setup look like?

DoubleTangicide posted...

No shit Sherlock

But you are saying the reason you are not town

Is that because you DID NOT PREVENT TOWN FROM LYNCHING SCUM

Thats a godawful reasoning for you being town

I literally supported all of those lynches. From pretty early on.

Every day was town v town
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Last game that is
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Leafeon13N posted...

DoubleTangicide posted...

No shit Sherlock

But you are saying the reason you are not town

Is that because you DID NOT PREVENT TOWN FROM LYNCHING SCUM

Thats a godawful reasoning for you being town

I literally supported all of those lynches. From pretty early on.

But thats not what you just said
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ScareChan posted...

Last game that is

Thats what i thought.

I just remember day 2 ending in chaos so i wasn't sure.

DoubleTangicide posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

DoubleTangicide posted...

No shit Sherlock

But you are saying the reason you are not town

Is that because you DID NOT PREVENT TOWN FROM LYNCHING SCUM

Thats a godawful reasoning for you being town

I literally supported all of those lynches. From pretty early on.

But thats not what you just said

I didn't, i just elaborated on what i was saying.

benjamin3740 posted...

Did Sultan just avoid voting Panth, or did he actually say he thought Panth was town?

Nah he just disliked Corrik more. Dont think he ever called Panth town.
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EDumey posted...

First off, you're lying about what I've said. Sultan claimed he was blocked. If he's town and scum want to kill Eaed, then sure he gets blocked here. But blocked over you is silly.

Err, what? There's definitely someone misinterpreting something here, or you're just trying to make me look bad with nonsense, I'm unsure which. I'm not saying Sultan got blocked over me by scum. I'm saying that he was either blocked by town or is lying about it and scum. Those are literally the two options from my point of view, since if there was another scum blocker we would have seen it by now and they obviously wouldn't waste it on Sultan of all people if he was Town. Are you saying it makes me scum to even consider the option that Sultan is scum and lying about it?
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ScareChan posted...

He is trying to say if he were scum the zam lynch would have not gotten out of hand

Yeah sure
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Leafeon13N posted...

As i said earlier, i gave them an opportunity. The only thing better for scum than one town being lynched is two town up for lynch.

I mean, I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really tell me much. Who would you think seems to be taking the opportunity? Are you saying you should be considered Town because you weren't lynched, and that means scum was just saving your lynch for later? If you're Town, why wouldn't they get you first, since I'd say you're probably a more dangerous player than God.
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turbopuns2 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns2 - Puns is a good boy. The Leo bust did not seem fake. Especially since it was such a random chance bluff that broke Leo, as opposed to a more co-ordinated setup.

What does a "more co-ordinated" setup look like?

A few things. Maybe you trying to fake a power claim out of the whole ordeal (Like actual Tracker). Your decision to go after Leo was based on a hunch where you just guessed he was scum and guessed that he moved in the night. That forced Leo to feel like he needed to claim power. I don't think scum plans that - to have you randomly figure it out. And then the kill was done via lawyer, so that adds more credence to Leo's death there being NOT co-ordinated by scum.
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Sheep007 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

As i said earlier, i gave them an opportunity. The only thing better for scum than one town being lynched is two town up for lynch.

I mean, I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really tell me much. Who would you think seems to be taking the opportunity? Are you saying you should be considered Town because you weren't lynched, and that means scum was just saving your lynch for later? If you're Town, why wouldn't they get you first, since I'd say you're probably a more dangerous player than God.

Am i suddenly any less of a lynch candidate now? I'm saying you should see that scum was absolutely content letting me die snd that should absolutely tell you something.

EDumey posted...

What's the town benefit of Sheep's claim there? All he did was make himself susceptible to night actions by scum, and that didn't even happen. Definitely odd. At this stage of the game, uncountered Cop even just scanning multiple members innocent is dangerous for scum even if he never hits a guilty scan. I don't see a world where someone like Tony is prioritized over Sheep for a roleblock.

EDumey posted...

Why would scum roleblock Sultan instead of Sheep? Maybe it's a null tell if Sultan ends up town. Eaed is obviously a more powerful protective role. But leaving up a cop scan is so bad. If they're both scum, then they use their roleblock on the only claimed investigative role (Tony), claim Sultan is blocked so the Eaed kill goes by unquestioned, and have a tough sell with Sheep.

EDumey posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: Sultan

If Sultan flips scum, then the roleblock doesn't make sense and I think there's a strong argument other than my insistence that Sheep is lying.

Even if you guys understand where I'm coming from and don't trust Sheep, lynching the claimed cop with scans is probably just the wrong town play. This is a better self-preservation vote that also gets us more information.

Basically, the argument was that if you're town and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony over you is bad play.

If you're scum and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony makes sense.

If you're scum and Sultan is town, then roleblocking Sultan (Eaed jails Tony?) makes sense.

The only way I can make sense of the roleblock situation is if you're scum, and Sultan being scum makes it easier because then we don't assume Eaed roleblocked town investigative power. It is the most likely scenario to me.
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Also more dangerous is debateable right now. Capable of being way louder but ive been way off my game for like 3 games in a row now.

Hey red

What do you recall of Chrono Trigger Mafia, hosted by VeryInsane

(This serves a purpose, I swear)

I have to look up what game that was scare.

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turbopuns2 posted...

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hi scare
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turbopuns2 posted...

Hey red

What do you recall of Chrono Trigger Mafia, hosted by VeryInsane

(This serves a purpose, I swear)

looking at my PM's that one was awhile ago. I was town BP. I can't say I remember much else though(Is it archived somewhere).
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Clearly auto correct
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Why did you just call me scare? >_>

ScareChan posted...

Clearly auto correct

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............

gg bros?

????
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turbopuns2 posted...

Why did you just call me scare? >_>

oh just bad scrolling on my phone.
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also had scare and previous games in my head because we were talking about last game.
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......>_>

<_<

>________>

anyway I don't actually remember much of the game, what have you got for me?
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It had been 17 minutes since scare posted

Please explain in obnoxious detail this "bad scrolling" you experienced

EDumey posted...

Basically, the argument was that if you're town and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony over you is bad play.

If you're scum and Sultan is scum, then roleblocking Tony makes sense.

If you're scum and Sultan is town, then roleblocking Sultan (Eaed jails Tony?) makes sense.

The only way I can make sense of the roleblock situation is if you're scum, and Sultan being scum makes it easier because then we don't assume Eaed roleblocked town investigative power. It is the most likely scenario to me.

Is bad play not an explanation that you can make sense of? We've definitely seen some of it at night so far, hell we've seen it (at least imo) in the jailer already, with two power claims being blocked. I also think that Tony is probably a similarly good target for roleblocking, he could have seen the RB itself which is as good as catching a scum and there's always the possibility of only having a one shit ninja compared to a perma Godfather. I'd argue that cop is slightly more useful since it can basically rule in or out a single player, but I definitely wouldn't instantly go with cop every time as scum.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Did Sultan just avoid voting Panth, or did he actually say he thought Panth was town?

I thought panth was town and definitely thought red was a better option but I went camping so my vote was left useless apparently if I would have voted red something different might have happened but can't be mad about it or anything idk but dumey is confirmed scum right why wouldn't we want to go dumey today?
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