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NeonOctopus
08/08/18 1:47:08 PM
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Marth
Roy
Lucina
Chrom

Plus you got Ike, Robin, and Corrin, all sword characters (though Corrin does use his dragom powers in a lot of his moves)

lol
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Fight_4_Force
08/08/18 1:48:40 PM
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Its not enough.
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Fastfile
08/08/18 1:52:03 PM
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Roy (and by extension Chrom) are not Marth clones tho.

cmonBruh
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Drowning__Fish_
08/08/18 1:52:17 PM
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Sorry who are those i'm not huge on anime
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NeonOctopus
08/08/18 1:53:48 PM
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Fastfile posted...
Roy (and by extension Chrom) are not Marth clones tho.

cmonBruh

Roy definitely is. Literally same moveset except for 1 move.
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NeonOctopus
08/08/18 1:55:34 PM
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Drowning__Fish_ posted...
Sorry who are those i'm not huge on anime

Theyre from Nekopara. It's a good show. Check it out with your family.
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Fastfile
08/08/18 1:59:37 PM
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In terms of just animations:

Jab, Neutral Special, F-Tilt, Up-Tilt, Forward Smash, F-Air, D-Air and Final Smash are different.

The other moves, while similar, function differently, but are (almost, if not) the same in animation.

I won't call Roy (and Chrom) unique or anything, but they are not clones.

Edit: Uhhh...saying animation a little bit too much there.
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Letron_James
08/08/18 2:00:25 PM
#8:


NeonOctopus posted...
Fastfile posted...
Roy (and by extension Chrom) are not Marth clones tho.

cmonBruh

Roy definitely is. Literally same moveset except for 1 move.


Or is Marth Roy's clone
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 2:02:19 PM
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Roy may not be a straight up duplicate anymore, but he is still very much a clone. Wolf is more unique than him, and even he's still clearly built straight off of Fox.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 2:11:15 PM
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This is why I want Sakurai to use the Alternate Movesets to help differentiate Marth & Lucina.

Let them have different moves to make them unique.

All the assets / data is already there, but making them unique would make for a better game.
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legendarylemur
08/08/18 2:13:04 PM
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Roy and Marth came out at the same time. If anything, there are 2 Roy/Marth clones, and one of them has parts of Ike's movesets

It's not quite as simple as it seems
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darkphoenix181
08/08/18 2:14:03 PM
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 2:14:18 PM
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I'm just glad that Ike / Roy are fairly different from Marth.

I want them all to move apart in terms of move sets.
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 2:14:35 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Roy and Marth came out at the same time.

Roy, like the other Melee clones, was added last minute to pad out the roster.
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Doe
08/08/18 2:15:09 PM
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-More ways to play is bad
Chrom also takes moves from characters like Ike in any case
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 2:15:38 PM
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Doe posted...
-More ways to play is bad
Why do you say that?
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 2:16:06 PM
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And I just realized you can now have a full match of Marth clones.
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Doe
08/08/18 2:16:41 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Doe posted...
-More ways to play is bad
Why do you say that?

I am mocking TC
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legendarylemur
08/08/18 2:20:49 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Roy and Marth came out at the same time.

Roy, like the other Melee clones, was added last minute to pad out the roster.

I can't quite find a reliable source for that outside people just claiming so, but I guess one thing is that Roy's game didn't come out when the game was out. But Roy in general, especially in Smash 4, was pretty different from how Marth played. Easier to call him a clone in Melee even though their inclusion was still simultaneous, not quite so in Smash 4, especially when you compare Marth to Lucina and Marth to Roy
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The_Scarecrow
08/08/18 2:21:03 PM
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Roy is different enough now to not be considered a Marth clone. Plus, Chrom takes moves from mostly Roy and other FE characters. Its not really 4 Marths.
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dotsdfe
08/08/18 3:49:01 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ytrX0wweA" data-time="&start=0


Dude has been waiting for 4 years, lay off.
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NeonOctopus
08/08/18 3:54:24 PM
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edededdy
08/08/18 3:55:45 PM
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i love super fire emblem Bros.
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CM_Ponch
08/08/18 3:56:14 PM
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I could swear he was using Ike moves in the trailer
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Superlinkbro
08/08/18 3:57:09 PM
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Drowning__Fish_ posted...
Sorry who are those i'm not huge on anime

Lmao
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 3:57:17 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
I could swear he was using Ike moves in the trailer

Just Aether. Everything else is lifted from Roy.
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juicebox4
08/08/18 3:57:58 PM
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Chrom is a hybrid of Roy & Ike apparently which sounds amazing
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Tappor
08/08/18 4:01:18 PM
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meanwhile ridley stil-- wait...

well they still haven't added daisy-- oh, she got in too

fuckin k. ro-- nope, got announced today too

DAMN IT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT
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juicebox4
08/08/18 4:02:27 PM
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Tappor posted...
meanwhile ridley stil-- wait...

well they still haven't added daisy-- oh, she got in too

fuckin k. ro-- nope, got announced today too

DAMN IT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT

Isaac
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apocalyptic_4
08/08/18 4:04:02 PM
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Y'all disrespecting my boy Roy calling him a clone
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 4:04:32 PM
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Tappor posted...
DAMN IT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT

No Geno, no Isaac, no Dixie, no Banjo, no Kamek, etc.
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Tappor
08/08/18 4:07:34 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Tappor posted...
DAMN IT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT

No Geno, no Isaac, no Dixie, no Banjo, no Kamek, etc.

geno is never getting in because square enix are bastards who won't even let sakurai use more than two ff songs

issac is from rpg i will never play so i don't care

kamek i can honestly pass on

dixie and banjo would be fine... i guess lol
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NeonOctopus
08/08/18 4:08:16 PM
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Tappor posted...
meanwhile ridley stil-- wait...

well they still haven't added daisy-- oh, she got in too

fuckin k. ro-- nope, got announced today too

DAMN IT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT

Geno >_>
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BLAKUboy
08/08/18 4:08:49 PM
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Kamek is basically the only option for additional Yoshi reps, though admittedly Nintendo doesn't ever seem to really care about Yoshi as a series.
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juicebox4
08/08/18 4:11:34 PM
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Shy Guy could be a Yoshi rep sorta, give him stilts for some moves and other shit from Yoshi's Island

fr tho he should be a character
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