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The Great Muta 22
08/06/18 10:54:40 PM
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(stole topic from 261)

https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/

One of the most dangerous construction-related carcinogens is now legally allowed back into U.S. manufacturing under a new rule by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). On June 1, the EPA authorized a SNUR (Significant New Use Rule) which allows new products containing asbestos to be created on a case-by-case basis.

According to environmental advocates, this new rule gives chemical companies the upper hand in creating new uses for such harmful products in the United States. In May, the EPA released a report detailing its new framework for evaluating the risk of its top prioritized substances. The report states that the agency will no longer consider the effect or presence of substances in the air, ground, or water in its risk assessments

Well Trumps EPA pick rolled it back under Trumps orders and a Russian asbestos company...I s**t you not...even put Trumps face on their product.


You guys ready to have your children breath in toxins again?
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dave_is_slick
08/06/18 10:56:42 PM
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Can we please get some assassinations going?
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HylianFox
08/06/18 10:57:09 PM
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Environmental Poisoning Agency
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NeonOctopus
08/06/18 10:57:39 PM
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Zeeak4444
08/06/18 10:57:52 PM
#5:


@Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.
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MacDaMurderer
08/06/18 10:58:33 PM
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This alternate reality is trash
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Webmaster4531
08/06/18 11:00:06 PM
#7:


The free market is perfect.
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theAteam
08/06/18 11:00:45 PM
#8:


Next they'll be adding lead to gasoline again
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Bat178
08/06/18 11:01:14 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
@Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.

Pruitt's been gone for a while. Wheeler is the one in charge now.
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frozenshock
08/06/18 11:01:24 PM
#10:


But Hillary emailed Benghazi
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08/06/18 11:02:31 PM
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We live in the alternate earth.
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TheRealDill2000
08/06/18 11:03:04 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Environmental Poisoning Agency

You misspelled protection
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Bat178
08/06/18 11:03:54 PM
#13:


Zeeak4444 posted...
@Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.

Pruitt was kicked out a while ago. Wheeler is the one in charge now.
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Webmaster4531
08/06/18 11:04:15 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
HylianFox posted...
Environmental Poisoning Agency

You misspelled protection

Silly, P doesn't mean protection.
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Zeeak4444
08/06/18 11:04:39 PM
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Bat178 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.

Pruitt's been gone for a while. Wheeler is the one in charge now.


Oh shit you're right, he took over early July right? I'm impressed we got someone I'm even less fond of than Pruitt.

Fucking Wheeler*
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Reis
08/06/18 11:04:54 PM
#16:


take that LIBBIES
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VipaGTS
08/06/18 11:05:25 PM
#17:


Well this is dumb...
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:05:42 PM
#18:


trump's epa
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booboy
08/06/18 11:06:14 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.


I'll take any chance under the sun to rip on Pruitt, but he's been out of the EPA for almost a month.
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hyperpsycho
08/06/18 11:06:29 PM
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Destroying the environment and putting lives at risk asbestos I can.
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:07:08 PM
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@southcoast09
care to try defend trump on this?
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Coffeebeanz
08/06/18 11:07:08 PM
#22:


Snopes says it's mostly true

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-products/

Screw this new EPA
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TheRealDill2000
08/06/18 11:08:47 PM
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Squidkids posted...
@southcoast09
care to try defend trump on this?

The EPA wouldn't allow the product to be used if it was unsafe. Clearly, these use cases would not impact anyone.
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DavidWong
08/06/18 11:08:50 PM
#24:


asbestos is the GOAT building material, aside from the whole cancer thing
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The Great Muta 22
08/06/18 11:08:59 PM
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I remember being in 1st grade and we had to have glass in the gym because the classrooms were loaded with asbestos. Or at least, told that by my parents when I was older and asked.

Who would have thought kids I may have will have the same "honor"?
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booboy
08/06/18 11:09:49 PM
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Reading that Snopes article, it says that Trump was generally pro-asbestos even as far back as '97.
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Zeeak4444
08/06/18 11:10:04 PM
#27:


booboy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.


I'll take any chance under the sun to rip on Pruitt, but he's been out of the EPA for almost a month.


Yeah I fucked up with that one. I forgot we got Wheeler in early July until the other user corrected me.

My mistake on that one.
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iPhone_7
08/06/18 11:10:10 PM
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Its actually a good thing because by allowing more asbestos it means it will lead to people being more concerned for their health. Trump is playing 7D chess
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Garioshi
08/06/18 11:10:35 PM
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dude what the fuck
what the actual fuck
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Duncanwii
08/06/18 11:12:10 PM
#30:


When (not if when) the first child dies from this policy Trump needs to be held personally responsible. Trump needs to be held responsible for all the deaths his garbage policies cause and charged with the highest crime a president can be charged for. He won't get removed (because Republicans) but at least he'll have the blood of countless innocents on his hands for the rest of his pitiful life.
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TendoDRM
08/06/18 11:12:40 PM
#31:


Zeeak4444 posted...
booboy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.


I'll take any chance under the sun to rip on Pruitt, but he's been out of the EPA for almost a month.


Yeah I fucked up with that one. I forgot we got Wheeler in early July until the other user corrected me.

My mistake on that one.

According to the article, this was passed on June 1st, though.

So you should be all clear to yell fucking Pruitt.
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Zeeak4444
08/06/18 11:14:35 PM
#32:


TendoDRM posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
booboy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.


I'll take any chance under the sun to rip on Pruitt, but he's been out of the EPA for almost a month.


Yeah I fucked up with that one. I forgot we got Wheeler in early July until the other user corrected me.

My mistake on that one.

According to the article, this was passed on June 1st, though.

So you should be all clear to yell fucking Pruitt.


The plot thickens...

Fucking Pruitt**
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booboy
08/06/18 11:15:21 PM
#33:


Zeeak4444 posted...
TendoDRM posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
booboy posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Questionmarktarius

Thoughts on this? We've had a few discussions on regulatory agencies so I'm curious how you feel about this.

On topic: I think it sets a pretty bad precedent IMO.

Fucking Pruitt.


I'll take any chance under the sun to rip on Pruitt, but he's been out of the EPA for almost a month.


Yeah I fucked up with that one. I forgot we got Wheeler in early July until the other user corrected me.

My mistake on that one.

According to the article, this was passed on June 1st, though.

So you should be all clear to yell fucking Pruitt.


The plot thickens...

Fucking Pruitt**


FUCKING PRUITT
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:16:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/MomoBlossomYuki/status/1026667778537914368

The problem, according to critics, is twofold. The first, more generally, is that the EPA could have used the currently unfolding overhaul of the TSCA which began at the end of the Obama administration and has continued along a very different path under Trump to ban any new uses of asbestos, something that had been the case at the end of the last administration. Instead, they are explicitly allowing new uses, but with the caveat that the EPA first evaluate possible potential new uses based on risk evaluation, select studies, and use the best available science.

The second problem, more specifically, concerns the way in which the EPA has proposed to evaluate that risk. In May 2018, the EPA published a document known as the Problem Formulation of the Risk Evaluation for Asbestos, which establishes the scientific approach the EPA will take in evaluating these new uses. Significantly, their approach will not include information from existing, or legacy uses of asbestos, despite the significant body of work around health risks stemming from those uses:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-products/

Poor Alex from using social media to spread the sales of anti-asbestos vitamins
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KiwiTerraRizing
08/06/18 11:18:41 PM
#35:


So basically the EPA is ignoring the evidence of the harm of asbestos and well need to wait years for people to start dying before they have new data.

This administration is literally letting corporations kill us.
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voldothegr8
08/06/18 11:18:59 PM
#36:


This is fucked, I'm contacting my senators and you all should too.

https://www.senate.gov/general/contacting.htm
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Muffinz0rz
08/06/18 11:20:23 PM
#37:


Well then, I will officially no longer be entering any buildings constructed after 2018.
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DavidWong
08/06/18 11:20:41 PM
#38:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
So basically the EPA is ignoring the evidence of the harm of asbestos and well need to wait years for people to start dying before they have new data.

This administration is literally letting corporations kill us.


yup

takes around 40 years on average for the effects of breathing in asbestos to actually kill you

you won't see anything for at least 20
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dave_is_slick
08/06/18 11:24:07 PM
#39:


Of course I was modded. The sentiment still fucking stands.
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catboy0_0
08/06/18 11:26:18 PM
#40:


oh joy
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:27:01 PM
#41:


This is fake news but let's get the fake outrage rolling!
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:27:39 PM
#42:


Hey ho asbestos has got to go
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dave_is_slick
08/06/18 11:28:15 PM
#43:


muchdran posted...
This is fake news but let's get the fake outrage rolling!

How dumb are you?
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Solar_Crimson
08/06/18 11:28:36 PM
#44:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
Squidkids posted...
@southcoast09
care to try defend trump on this?

The EPA wouldn't allow the product to be used if it was unsafe. Clearly, these use cases would not impact anyone.

Asbestos is unsafe, period.
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TheRealDill2000
08/06/18 11:29:55 PM
#45:


Solar_Crimson posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Squidkids posted...
@southcoast09
care to try defend trump on this?

The EPA wouldn't allow the product to be used if it was unsafe. Clearly, these use cases would not impact anyone.

Asbestos is unsafe, period.

I'm pretty sure it would be barred if it did not have some safe applications.
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:29:55 PM
#46:


@Solar_Crimson posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Squidkids posted...
@southcoast09
care to try defend trump on this?

The EPA wouldn't allow the product to be used if it was unsafe. Clearly, these use cases would not impact anyone.

Asbestos is unsafe, period.

I think it was to fill in what @southcoast09 would say, I doubt it is the readill's view, unless that person is another all hail the orange mango type
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08/06/18 11:30:40 PM
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southcoast09
08/06/18 11:31:18 PM
#48:


Why the fuck would I have anything to do with this? Stop tagging me.
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Solar_Crimson
08/06/18 11:32:00 PM
#49:


dave_is_slick posted...
muchdran posted...
This is fake news but let's get the fake outrage rolling!

How dumb are you?

His whole shtick is shitting on liberals while slurping up everything the Trump administration does. Just an alt-right clown.

TheRealDill2000 posted...
I'm pretty sure it would be barred if it did not have some safe applications.

There are none, and it's been established a long time ago.

This is yet another appeal to Trump's corporate buddies who can't let go of their toxic dust.
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:32:21 PM
#50:


@SweetieBelle462 posted...
It's still going to follow safety rules though

This is fine

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/2/23/This_is_Fine_Gudako_ver.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161010094426
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