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muchdran
08/06/18 11:32:42 PM
#51:


SweetieBelle462 posted...
It's still going to follow safety rules though

This is fine

We have to be outraged on stuff we will never come into contact with.
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:33:11 PM
#52:


southcoast09 posted...
Why the fuck would I have anything to do with this? Stop tagging me.

cuz i want to see you try to defend this trump BS like you always do
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mattnd2007
08/06/18 11:35:15 PM
#53:


We're gonna be watering our plants with brawndo pretty soon aren't we?
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dave_is_slick
08/06/18 11:35:29 PM
#54:


muchdran posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...
It's still going to follow safety rules though

This is fine

We have to be outraged on stuff we will never come into contact with.

Yeah, ignoring years of evidence is so safe! Fuck you.
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:36:05 PM
#55:


Squidkids posted...
southcoast09 posted...
Why the fuck would I have anything to do with this? Stop tagging me.

cuz i want to see you try to defend this trump BS like you always do

How the fuck does asbestos affect your daily life?
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:37:31 PM
#56:


dave_is_slick posted...
muchdran posted...
SweetieBelle462 posted...
It's still going to follow safety rules though

This is fine

We have to be outraged on stuff we will never come into contact with.

Yeah, ignoring years of evidence is so safe! Fuck you.

conservative logic:
Obama is trying to mind control you with fluoride in your drinking water
asbestos is fine because trump supports it
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:39:32 PM
#57:


muchdran posted...
Squidkids posted...
southcoast09 posted...
Why the fuck would I have anything to do with this? Stop tagging me.

cuz i want to see you try to defend this trump BS like you always do

How the fuck does asbestos affect your daily life?

I can answer this!

It is on the T.V. every 5 minutes about contacting some lawyer about class action lawsuits based on it, you are F**** dense
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:41:00 PM
#58:


Squidkids posted...
muchdran posted...
Squidkids posted...
southcoast09 posted...
Why the fuck would I have anything to do with this? Stop tagging me.

cuz i want to see you try to defend this trump BS like you always do

How the fuck does asbestos affect your daily life?

I can answer this!

It is on the T.V. every 5 minutes about contacting some lawyer about class action lawsuits based on it, you are F**** dense

Lol wow are you special?
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:41:07 PM
#59:


The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.
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snowman9267
08/06/18 11:42:12 PM
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Asbestos doesn't affect my daily life because's it's been banned for years and I haven't had to come into contact with it, as it should be. wtf
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Rika_Furude
08/06/18 11:43:03 PM
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YellowSUV
08/06/18 11:43:07 PM
#62:


By your power combined I am Captain Pollution!
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:43:13 PM
#63:


snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos doesn't affect my daily life because's it's been banned for years and I haven't had to come into contact with it, as it should be. wtf

Do you actually know anything about it? Just curious
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:44:27 PM
#64:


We have no idea about but we have to be mad, let's get em
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:45:24 PM
#65:


snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos doesn't affect my daily life because's it's been banned for years and I haven't had to come into contact with it, as it should be. wtf

^
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mattnd2007
08/06/18 11:45:53 PM
#66:


I can't tell between the trolls and the crazies on this board since 2016
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:45:56 PM
#67:


snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos doesn't affect my daily life because's it's been banned for years and I haven't had to come into contact with it, as it should be. wtf

Just curious how would anyone who owned an old house even know?
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mattnd2007
08/06/18 11:46:40 PM
#68:


And it's both sides. There are some lefties on here too that I can't tell if trolling or nuts
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Zeeak4444
08/06/18 11:47:50 PM
#69:


mattnd2007 posted...
And it's both sides. There are some lefties on here too that I can't tell if trolling or nuts


That's what I've been saying. It's like Poes law on crack.
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:48:25 PM
#70:


Just the experts who have no idea what it is, or ever deal with it.
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catboy0_0
08/06/18 11:49:26 PM
#71:


Thanks Obama
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DavidWong
08/06/18 11:49:45 PM
#72:


Do you live in a house, or have been in a building that was built before 1990?

Then you've been in contact with asbestos!!!
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snowman9267
08/06/18 11:50:57 PM
#73:


Asbestos causes mesothelioma and other restrictive lung diseases. I'm such a dumb leftist for not wanting to get an easily preventable disease that would be for nothing than some company's profit. Read about what happened to Libby, Montana when they threw vermiculite in everything around their town because the big mining company in town decided they'd make a pile of money off of it.

I swear everybody has lost their mind the last 3 or 4 years.
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:51:33 PM
#74:


DavidWong posted...
Do you live in a house, or have been in a building that was built before 1990?

Then you've been in contact with asbestos!!!

Oh shit! I'm outraged because I have know fucking idea what the fuck I'm talking about. But outraged!
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muchdran
08/06/18 11:53:38 PM
#75:


snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos causes mesothelioma and other restrictive lung diseases. I'm such a dumb leftist for not wanting to get an easily preventable disease that would be for nothing than some company's profit. Read about what happened to Libby, Montana when they threw vermiculite in everything around their town because the big mining company in town decided they'd make a pile of money off of it.

I swear everybody has lost their mind the last 3 or 4 years.

You seriously have no idea how that works
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Pitlord_Special
08/06/18 11:54:06 PM
#76:


Someone get the asbestos fire blankets out, we got a stage V meltdown to contain
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mattnd2007
08/06/18 11:54:15 PM
#77:


Much tagged as troll or nuts
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:54:19 PM
#78:


Conservative logic:
Alien lizards, fluoride mind control and voter fraud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-alien-lizards-fluoride-mind-control-and-voter-fraud/2016/11/
28/c0326c26-b5a0-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2937b08b72f6

but asbestos is ok!!!! because you do not deal with it in your daily life
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mattnd2007
08/06/18 11:55:08 PM
#79:


Either way will no longer be taken seriously ever again
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Squidkids
08/06/18 11:56:58 PM
#80:


muchdran posted...
@snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos causes mesothelioma and other restrictive lung diseases. I'm such a dumb leftist for not wanting to get an easily preventable disease that would be for nothing than some company's profit. Read about what happened to Libby, Montana when they threw vermiculite in everything around their town because the big mining company in town decided they'd make a pile of money off of it.

I swear everybody has lost their mind the last 3 or 4 years.

You seriously have no idea how that works

looks like rightists don't like reading, hey fits with trump.. he gets all his news from fox news and ignores his intelligence... (more ways then one)
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MacadamianNut3
08/06/18 11:58:49 PM
#81:


I am confident muchdran knows what he is talking about because instead of making any point he just states how everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about

This is how you're supposed to argue libbies take notes!!!!
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The Great Muta 22
08/07/18 12:00:48 AM
#82:


I had no idea that a topic I made somewhat in part because I heard a Mesothelioma commercial after Better Call Saul would blow up like this.

Lmao
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TheAnthraxBunny
08/07/18 12:02:34 AM
#83:


muchdran posted...
snowman9267 posted...
Asbestos causes mesothelioma and other restrictive lung diseases. I'm such a dumb leftist for not wanting to get an easily preventable disease that would be for nothing than some company's profit. Read about what happened to Libby, Montana when they threw vermiculite in everything around their town because the big mining company in town decided they'd make a pile of money off of it.

I swear everybody has lost their mind the last 3 or 4 years.

You seriously have no idea how that works

Can you please stop letting the literal shit leaking down your leg from your flared asshole get all over this thread and say something productive?
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Dagon_0
08/07/18 12:02:54 AM
#84:


Poisoning everyone to stick it to the libs.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/18 12:03:04 AM
#85:


MacadamianNut3 posted...
I am confident muchdran knows what he is talking about because instead of making any point he just states how everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about

This is how you're supposed to argue libbies take notes!!!!


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Lil_Bit83
08/07/18 12:05:29 AM
#86:


Thanks idiot.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/07/18 12:05:57 AM
#87:


Asbestos costs a fuck load to to mess with, no one is gonna bother with it unless they get a bunch of illegals to work with it.

This is the true reason it's back. Find the buyer, call ICE
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muchdran
08/07/18 12:07:38 AM
#88:


I actually deal with asbestos, the fake outrage is insane.
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Frostshock
08/07/18 12:08:03 AM
#89:


Alright, I guess it's up to me to play devil's advocate.

Are there any examples of what new things companies want to use asbestos for? Asbestos is only dangerous when it can go airborne or otherwise is disturbed. I wouldn't be shocked if there are safe applications in industry, but I can't imagine any reason consumer asbestos products should ever exist again. They aren't going to go back to putting the stuff in buildings, surely, so what do they want to do with it?

For what it's worth, any of you who have done lab work in chemistry class have almost certainly handled a safe form of asbestos, but I think even those uses are being phased out.
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muchdran
08/07/18 12:08:18 AM
#90:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Asbestos costs a fuck load to to mess with, no one is gonna bother with it unless they get a bunch of illegals to work with it.

This is the true reason it's back. Find the buyer, call ICE

That's probably it
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DavidWong
08/07/18 12:08:41 AM
#91:


asbestos is dangerous when it's broken

if you have an asbestos ceiling that's just sitting there, it isn't gonna hurt anyone

if someone puts a hole in that ceiling? yeah, you gotta get it removed by professionals, 100%

but if you touch asbestos, drink asbestos, are in the same room as asbestos that is not friable, then nothing will happen to you.
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The Great Muta 22
08/07/18 12:10:43 AM
#92:


DavidWong posted...
asbestos is dangerous when it's broken

if you have an asbestos ceiling that's just sitting there, it isn't gonna hurt anyone

if someone puts a hole in that ceiling? yeah, you gotta get it removed by professionals, 100%

but if you touch asbestos, drink asbestos, are in the same room as asbestos that is not friable, then nothing will happen to you.


Defending Trump = Defending Asbestos

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DavidWong
08/07/18 12:12:00 AM
#93:


1) I think Trump is a lunatic
2) I'm not American so I have no horse in this race

I just work in the construction industry, and I'm trying to explain that while asbestos can be dangerous, it is not necessarily always dangerous.

People hear asbestos and flip out. Mould is far more dangerous than asbestos.
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Zeeak4444
08/07/18 12:14:23 AM
#94:


DavidWong posted...
1) I think Trump is a lunatic
2) I'm not American so I have no horse in this race

I just work in the construction industry, and I'm trying to explain that while asbestos can be dangerous, it is not necessarily always dangerous.

People hear asbestos and flip out. Mould is far more dangerous than asbestos.


I can't speak for everyone but I can say my issue with it is that there's alternatives which can be used and the main argument against them is money.

It makes very little sense to me to create any liability where there's no need to.
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Polycosm
08/07/18 12:15:03 AM
#95:


Giving ourselves cancer to own the libs!
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The Great Muta 22
08/07/18 12:15:15 AM
#96:


DavidWong posted...
1) I think Trump is a lunatic
2) I'm not American so I have no horse in this race

I just work in the construction industry, and I'm trying to explain that while asbestos can be dangerous, it is not necessarily always dangerous.

People hear asbestos and flip out. Mould is far more dangerous than asbestos.


Lead is worse, and we have that shit all over the place :/

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snowman9267
08/07/18 12:15:27 AM
#97:


https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/asbestos.html

For whoever the ape was a few posts back. That's probably written at a 4th grade reading level so they should be good.
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DavidWong
08/07/18 12:15:52 AM
#98:


Oh yeah, I'm not advocating for using asbestos either. There's way safer materials to be used. Again, I'm just trying to educate people ITT.

Asbestos' main benefits are that it's cheap, fire resistant and has a long lifespan. But that isn't worth the cancer risk in 2018.
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catboy0_0
08/07/18 12:30:03 AM
#99:


MacadamianNut3 posted...
I am confident muchdran knows what he is talking about because instead of making any point he just states how everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about

This is how you're supposed to argue libbies take notes!!!!

this
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Zeeak4444
08/07/18 12:37:24 AM
#100:


DavidWong posted...
Oh yeah, I'm not advocating for using asbestos either. There's way safer materials to be used. Again, I'm just trying to educate people ITT.

Asbestos' main benefits are that it's cheap, fire resistant and has a long lifespan. But that isn't worth the cancer risk in 2018.


Ya I feel you. Like I said in my first post (might have been second). My biggest issue is that it sets a bad precedent.
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