Poll of the Day > Cloud Gaming. Anyone tried it?

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HeyImAlex 08/06/18 8:35:49 PM #1:	Like, playing a high spec game on a shitty laptop. --- rock&roll he loved me ere i knew him and all my love is due him. <cite>HeyImAlex posted [p:906392930] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Like, playing a high spec game on a shitty laptop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForteEXE3850 08/06/18 8:39:45 PM #2:	The technology for good could gaming doesn't exist yet. I have not personally tried, it but I have read high spec games tend to lag. Even if the server you were playing the game off of was outputting good enough internet, you yourself would also need amazing internet. --- Mwahahahaha. <cite>ForteEXE3850 posted [p:906393131] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>The technology for good could gaming doesn't exist yet. I have not personally tried, it but I have read high spec games tend to lag. Even if the server you were playing the game off of was outputting good enough internet, you yourself would also need amazing internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/06/18 9:28:34 PM #3:	Haven't and won't. Online multiplayer games are bad enough when you experience lag. This isn't something I want to infect single player games with. Maybe you can get away with retro stuff at this point. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906395874] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Haven't and won't. Online multiplayer games are bad enough when you experience lag. This isn't something I want to infect single player games with. Maybe you can get away with retro stuff at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/06/18 9:35:21 PM #4:	DPsx7 posted... infect Lol. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:906396213] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>infect </quote> Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth C Ryu 08/06/18 10:22:11 PM #5:	His word choice aside, he speaks true. At best, it would be tolerable for a turn-based RPG or SRPG. You generally don't want that much input lag (ESPECIALLY input lag that can vary from the average at any moment by even a few dozen ms) for something like an action game. Do you really want to play, say, a hard Mario level or Halo, except where your character keeps going for somewhere between 1/5 and 1/3 of a second after you release a button/stick, or where it takes that long for the character to actually start moving again once you do something with the controller? Imagine especially trying to line up a head shot on a moving target, except you have a quarter second of input lag. A good MMO (with regards to handling lag) like World of Warcraft does a great deal both serverside and in your PC client to smooth things over with communication with each other in attempts to minimize how much you actually see it. This is why you can, for instance, see the abilities you use before the server actually registers them as going off. However, the actual animations and your UI and everything are rendered on YOUR computer. This is why you can very quickly see when stuff happens even when there is a 200-300ms ping time between you and Blizzard's servers. At best, a "cloud gaming" setup would only really work in a fairly local setting. For instance, being able to play games in a hotel or a cruise ship or something using a controller and your TV, without a computer or console actually being present in your room. . --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth C Ryu posted [p:906398693] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>His word choice aside, he speaks true. At best, it would be tolerable for a turn-based RPG or SRPG. You generally don't want that much input lag (ESPECIALLY input lag that can vary from the average at any moment by even a few dozen ms) for something like an action game. Do you really want to play, say, a hard Mario level or Halo, except where your character keeps going for somewhere between 1/5 and 1/3 of a second after you release a button/stick, or where it takes that long for the character to actually start moving again once you do something with the controller? Imagine especially trying to line up a head shot on a moving target, except you have a quarter second of input lag. A good MMO (with regards to handling lag) like World of Warcraft does a great deal both serverside and in your PC client to smooth things over with communication with each other in attempts to minimize how much you actually see it. This is why you can, for instance, see the abilities you use before the server actually registers them as going off. However, the actual animations and your UI and everything are rendered on YOUR computer. This is why you can very quickly see when stuff happens even when there is a 200-300ms ping time between you and Blizzard's servers. At best, a "cloud gaming" setup would only really work in a fairly local setting. For instance, being able to play games in a hotel or a cruise ship or something using a controller and your TV, without a computer or console actually being present in your room. .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 08/06/18 11:00:30 PM #6:	i rode a "cloud" in "enslaved: odyssey to the west"... does that count? --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:906400715] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>i rode a "cloud" in "enslaved: odyssey to the west"... does that count?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/06/18 11:30:50 PM #7:	adjl posted... DPsx7 posted... infect Lol. Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906402308] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>infect </quote> Lol.</quote> Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 08/06/18 11:47:44 PM #8:	DPsx7 posted... adjl posted... DPsx7 posted... infect Lol. Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion. The least you could do is go back and let @likehelly know that you were wrong like everyone said you were. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:906403093] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>infect </quote> Lol.</quote> Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion.</quote> The least you could do is go back and let @likehelly know that you were wrong like everyone said you were.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/06/18 11:52:12 PM #9:	DPsx7 posted... Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? most recently? this, specifically https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76873954/906387708 as a whole? never. protip: to pull off the "i'm always right" gimmick that i pioneered, you have to actually be right, and you never are. --- what should go here i just don't know anymore because it seems like if it's too long and doesn't stretch the page it's bannable. literally the alphabet dude. <cite>likehelly posted [p:906403314] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I?</quote> most recently? this, specifically https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76873954/906387708 as a whole? never. protip: to pull off the "i'm always right" gimmick that i pioneered, you have to actually be right, and you never are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/06/18 11:58:15 PM #10:	Ha. You still think anything in that topic proved me wrong? It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful. So much butthurt that you'll follow me here and threadcrap. Sorry but you'll all have to take a back seat until you learn a few things. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906403573] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Ha. You still think anything in that topic proved me wrong? It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful. So much butthurt that you'll follow me here and threadcrap. Sorry but you'll all have to take a back seat until you learn a few things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 08/06/18 11:59:27 PM #11:	I tried some demo or trial through some site that did that a while ago. The input lag was pretty bad and it played choppy. <cite>dedbus posted [p:906403631] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>I tried some demo or trial through some site that did that a while ago. The input lag was pretty bad and it played choppy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/07/18 12:08:48 AM #12:	DPsx7 posted... It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful nope. i admit when others are right all the time. what i don't do is admit someone is right when they factually aren't, which you never are. all you do is move goalposts and dismiss evidence because it makes you wrong. you literally could not be more transparent than if you were invisible. you really need to stop posting here. i looked at your posting history earlier, all it was was you getting your shit kicked in everywhere you posted. that's really sad dude. even eric didn't get shit on that much. even sunny doesn't. it's pretty incredible. --- what should go here i just don't know anymore because it seems like if it's too long and doesn't stretch the page it's bannable. literally the alphabet dude. <cite>likehelly posted [p:906404095] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful</quote> nope. i admit when others are right all the time. what i don't do is admit someone is right when they factually aren't, which you never are. all you do is move goalposts and dismiss evidence because it makes you wrong. you literally could not be more transparent than if you were invisible. you really need to stop posting here. i looked at your posting history earlier, all it was was you getting your shit kicked in everywhere you posted. that's really sad dude. even eric didn't get shit on that much. even sunny doesn't. it's pretty incredible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/07/18 1:09:37 AM #13:	likehelly posted... DPsx7 posted... It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful nope. i admit when others are right all the time. what i don't do is admit someone is right when they factually aren't, which you never are. all you do is move goalposts and dismiss evidence because it makes you wrong. you literally could not be more transparent than if you were invisible. you really need to stop posting here. i looked at your posting history earlier, all it was was you getting your shit kicked in everywhere you posted. that's really sad dude. even eric didn't get shit on that much. even sunny doesn't. it's pretty incredible. Then you can start now. Thanks. I'd say point out a few but you're severely lacking in that area. Too bad. The goals are set and the evidence is discarded when it's faulty. Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof. Unless you find a way to support your arguments you're better off leaving instead. Join your other inept friends who have no place here. They try to convince themselves they know things. It's all lies. They just hate me because I'm above them. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906406560] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's you who can't admit I'm right, that would just be too painful</quote> nope. i admit when others are right all the time. what i don't do is admit someone is right when they factually aren't, which you never are. all you do is move goalposts and dismiss evidence because it makes you wrong. you literally could not be more transparent than if you were invisible. you really need to stop posting here. i looked at your posting history earlier, all it was was you getting your shit kicked in everywhere you posted. that's really sad dude. even eric didn't get shit on that much. even sunny doesn't. it's pretty incredible.</quote> Then you can start now. Thanks. I'd say point out a few but you're severely lacking in that area. Too bad. The goals are set and the evidence is discarded when it's faulty. Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof. Unless you find a way to support your arguments you're better off leaving instead. Join your other inept friends who have no place here. They try to convince themselves they know things. It's all lies. They just hate me because I'm above them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/07/18 11:30:50 AM #14:	Sephiroth C Ryu posted... His word choice aside, he speaks true. True enough, yeah. Streaming games doesn't work tremendously well for anything twitchy, unless the game isn't particularly demanding. Playing Rogue Legacy via a Steam Link was fine, but playing Dark Souls II didn't work at all. The concept of it being an "infection" is just laughable, though, hence I lol'd. DPsx7 posted... Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. And that's laughable. Streaming games is never going to be more than an option for the vast majority of games. From a publisher perspective, digital distribution remains the superior option because it uses less of their bandwidth and computing power. From a consumer perspective, it's only ever going to be at all useful for those with a weaker system, and only then for games with relaxed timing. I'm sure some publisher will try making a streaming-only action game, but that's just not going to work at all and the game will flop too badly to inform anyone else's policy. Don't be so ridiculously paranoid. DPsx7 posted... Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof. He linked you to Walmart's website, where you could buy that very phone if you wanted to. Those aren't "guessed numbers," that's the price Walmart is charging. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:906423611] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth C Ryu posted...</cite> <quote>His word choice aside, he speaks true. </quote> True enough, yeah. Streaming games doesn't work tremendously well for anything twitchy, unless the game isn't particularly demanding. Playing Rogue Legacy via a Steam Link was fine, but playing Dark Souls II didn't work at all. The concept of it being an "infection" is just laughable, though, hence I lol'd. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread.</quote> And that's laughable. Streaming games is never going to be more than an option for the vast majority of games. From a publisher perspective, digital distribution remains the superior option because it uses less of their bandwidth and computing power. From a consumer perspective, it's only ever going to be at all useful for those with a weaker system, and only then for games with relaxed timing. I'm sure some publisher will try making a streaming-only action game, but that's just not going to work at all and the game will flop too badly to inform anyone else's policy. Don't be so ridiculously paranoid. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof.</quote> He linked you to Walmart's website, where you could buy that very phone if you wanted to. Those aren't "guessed numbers," that's the price Walmart is charging.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/07/18 11:38:24 AM #15:	adjl posted... Playing Rogue Legacy via a Steam Link was fine, but playing Dark Souls II didn't work at all. whoa whoa whoa, hold on a sec. Steam link isn't cloud gaming(well, technically it is, but people mostly refer to cloud based gaming as playing games from on outside server), it's just streaming from your pc to whatever device you have your steam link on (or similar app). I have a steam link app on my samsung tv, and every thing plays fine (gtav, the tomb raider games, etc.). It all depends on how fast your network is, and the biggest issue people have is that they expect the games to be lag free when they are using steam link over a wireless network (not saying you are). --- Just because you're trash doesn't mean you can't do great things. It's called garbage can, not garbage cannot. <cite>green dragon posted [p:906423896] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Playing Rogue Legacy via a Steam Link was fine, but playing Dark Souls II didn't work at all.</quote> whoa whoa whoa, hold on a sec. Steam link isn't cloud gaming(well, technically it is, but people mostly refer to cloud based gaming as playing games from on outside server), it's just streaming from your pc to whatever device you have your steam link on (or similar app). I have a steam link app on my samsung tv, and every thing plays fine (gtav, the tomb raider games, etc.). It all depends on how fast your network is, and the biggest issue people have is that they expect the games to be lag free when they are using steam link over a wireless network (not saying you are).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/07/18 12:19:10 PM #16:	adjl posted... DPsx7 posted... Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. And that's laughable. Streaming games is never going to be more than an option for the vast majority of games. From a publisher perspective, digital distribution remains the superior option because it uses less of their bandwidth and computing power. From a consumer perspective, it's only ever going to be at all useful for those with a weaker system, and only then for games with relaxed timing. I'm sure some publisher will try making a streaming-only action game, but that's just not going to work at all and the game will flop too badly to inform anyone else's policy. Don't be so ridiculously paranoid. DPsx7 posted... Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof. He linked you to Walmart's website, where you could buy that very phone if you wanted to. Those aren't "guessed numbers," that's the price Walmart is charging. I hope you're right. While the points all make sense I wouldn't put it past the shittier companies (EA, Act, M$) to try anyway. I didn't see any links to Wally and that's not even what I was referring to. It was the link estimating the price of a land line. They used an average price there and the clown compared it to some low end phone with a set price. I'm sure you see why I'm saying it's not an even comparison. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906425884] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread.</quote> And that's laughable. Streaming games is never going to be more than an option for the vast majority of games. From a publisher perspective, digital distribution remains the superior option because it uses less of their bandwidth and computing power. From a consumer perspective, it's only ever going to be at all useful for those with a weaker system, and only then for games with relaxed timing. I'm sure some publisher will try making a streaming-only action game, but that's just not going to work at all and the game will flop too badly to inform anyone else's policy. Don't be so ridiculously paranoid. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone can make a site with guessed numbers but it's not gonna hold up as proof.</quote> He linked you to Walmart's website, where you could buy that very phone if you wanted to. Those aren't "guessed numbers," that's the price Walmart is charging.</quote> I hope you're right. While the points all make sense I wouldn't put it past the shittier companies (EA, Act, M$) to try anyway. I didn't see any links to Wally and that's not even what I was referring to. It was the link estimating the price of a land line. They used an average price there and the clown compared it to some low end phone with a set price. I'm sure you see why I'm saying it's not an even comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/07/18 12:27:26 PM #17:	Lol fart waffles thats a new one --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906426336] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Lol fart waffles thats a new one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/07/18 2:30:21 PM #18:	green dragon posted... whoa whoa whoa, hold on a sec. Steam link isn't cloud gaming(well, technically it is, but people mostly refer to cloud based gaming as playing games from on outside server), it's just streaming from your pc to whatever device you have your steam link on (or similar app). It isn't, but it's a similar concept. Performance is very much going to depend on network speeds, so if your network isn't fast enough, you're gonna have problems. The difference arises in that Steam Link relies on ethernet speeds, whereas cloud gaming relies on internet. DPsx7 posted... I hope you're right. While the points all make sense I wouldn't put it past the s*tier companies (EA, Act, M$) to try anyway. Oh, I'm sure they'll try. The game industry will try any bad idea at least once. Ultimately, though, it's just not going to work, and trying to push it after arriving at that very obvious outcome would be more idiotic than even they can be expected to do. DPsx7 posted... I didn't see any links to Wally likehelly posted... most recently? this, specifically https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76873954/906387708 There are two in there, both of which demonstrate that you can get a smartphone for cheap and conclusively prove wrong your assertion that they're all prohibitively expensive. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:906433089] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>whoa whoa whoa, hold on a sec. Steam link isn't cloud gaming(well, technically it is, but people mostly refer to cloud based gaming as playing games from on outside server), it's just streaming from your pc to whatever device you have your steam link on (or similar app). </quote> It isn't, but it's a similar concept. Performance is very much going to depend on network speeds, so if your network isn't fast enough, you're gonna have problems. The difference arises in that Steam Link relies on ethernet speeds, whereas cloud gaming relies on internet. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope you're right. While the points all make sense I wouldn't put it past the s*tier companies (EA, Act, M$) to try anyway. </quote> Oh, I'm sure they'll try. The game industry will try any bad idea at least once. Ultimately, though, it's just not going to work, and trying to push it after arriving at that very obvious outcome would be more idiotic than even they can be expected to do. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't see any links to Wally</quote> <cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>most recently? this, specifically https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76873954/906387708</quote> There are two in there, both of which demonstrate that you can get a smartphone for cheap and conclusively prove wrong your assertion that they're all prohibitively expensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacrossSpecial 08/07/18 2:35:03 PM #19:	I haven't tried it yet, no reason to. You get a free trial with a shield tv so I may do it out of curiosity. By the way, the steam link is the poor man's shield, having a bit of arm horsepower on the other end makes a world of difference when streaming on your internal network. --- ...Dude, you're a ****ing douche. Get off my god damn internets. - RX7Infinitilll <cite>MacrossSpecial posted [p:906433361] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>I haven't tried it yet, no reason to. You get a free trial with a shield tv so I may do it out of curiosity. By the way, the steam link is the poor man's shield, having a bit of arm horsepower on the other end makes a world of difference when streaming on your internal network.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 08/07/18 2:38:08 PM #20:	i've tried it a few times (onlive, ps now). onlive was shit. ps now was much better than what i expected, but i'd still rather play without the lag, despite how slight it is, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:906433527] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>i've tried it a few times (onlive, ps now). onlive was shit. ps now was much better than what i expected, but i'd still rather play without the lag, despite how slight it is, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TanorFaux 08/07/18 2:50:09 PM #21:	I've had PS Now, that counts as cloud gaming yeah? Or is streaming games directly like the PS Now model something else? For the price, and amount of games available, it's an alright option. I do mind lag issues, input issues, connectivity issues, but so far haven't had major problems that way. The "What Do I Want To Play?" ordeal is the best issue. Like the Netflix effect of "I don't know what to watch right now..." On a crappy laptop, I doubt i'd be able to do it on my Asus F502CA, definitely will not play many AAA titles on that... so cloud gaming, would be a venture. --- http://tinyurl.com/y8ox3tr8 http://tinyurl.com/ybbmxn7p http://tinyurl.com/ndn99xy http://tinyurl.com/y9bmr3ah http://tinyurl.com/y9s6ueln <cite>TanorFaux posted [p:906434165] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>I've had PS Now, that counts as cloud gaming yeah? Or is streaming games directly like the PS Now model something else? For the price, and amount of games available, it's an alright option. I do mind lag issues, input issues, connectivity issues, but so far haven't had major problems that way. The "What Do I Want To Play?" ordeal is the best issue. Like the Netflix effect of "I don't know what to watch right now..." On a crappy laptop, I doubt i'd be able to do it on my Asus F502CA, definitely will not play many AAA titles on that... so cloud gaming, would be a venture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 08/07/18 3:49:54 PM #22:	Yeah no. Wouldnt afford the internet to play without lag --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. If you see a woman and you think she's thicc, she's probably not thicc. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:906437646] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Yeah no. Wouldnt afford the internet to play without lag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/07/18 3:58:41 PM #23:	Does FF7 count as cloud gaming --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906438186] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Does FF7 count as cloud gaming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/07/18 4:15:49 PM #24:	Yes, it's shit especially the input lag and Crapcom wants to have more cloud only titles on the Switch, get that garbage out of gaming, we aren't ready yet. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:906439162] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it's shit especially the input lag and Crapcom wants to have more cloud only titles on the Switch, get that garbage out of gaming, we aren't ready yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/07/18 4:25:49 PM #25:	adjl posted... It isn't According to this Wikipedia page, steam link is classified as cloud gaming: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_gaming --- Just because you're trash doesn't mean you can't do great things. It's called garbage can, not garbage cannot. <cite>green dragon posted [p:906439723] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>It isn't</quote> According to this Wikipedia page, steam link is classified as cloud gaming: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_gaming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/07/18 4:27:28 PM #26:	Why do people keep citing wikipedia today --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906439823] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep citing wikipedia today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/07/18 4:28:51 PM #27:	DPsx7 posted... I didn't see any links to Wally and that's not even what I was referring to. It was the link estimating the price of a land line. They used an average price there and the clown compared it to some low end phone with a set price. I'm sure you see why I'm saying it's not an even comparison. OK, then how about this: https://www.spectrum.com/home-phone.html $30 a month, for 12 months, WITH a bundle, meaning it goes up after 12 months or is more expensive if you get it standalone. That is literally the high end of the $15 to $35 price my aggregate site came up with. Plus that is from Spectrum, the only option in my area for landlines (whereas I have tons of options for cellphones). I was giving you a low ball price. I was helping your argument, and you still got proven wrong. Edit: Oh just for fun lets look up another option and...OH WAIT IT IS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE!!! https://go.frontier.com/phone --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:906439894] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't see any links to Wally and that's not even what I was referring to. It was the link estimating the price of a land line. They used an average price there and the clown compared it to some low end phone with a set price. I'm sure you see why I'm saying it's not an even comparison.</quote> OK, then how about this: https://www.spectrum.com/home-phone.html $30 a month, for 12 months, WITH a bundle, meaning it goes up after 12 months or is more expensive if you get it standalone. That is literally the high end of the $15 to $35 price my aggregate site came up with. Plus that is from Spectrum, the only option in my area for landlines (whereas I have tons of options for cellphones). I was giving you a low ball price. I was helping your argument, and you still got proven wrong. Edit: Oh just for fun lets look up another option and...OH WAIT IT IS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE!!! https://go.frontier.com/phone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/07/18 4:29:28 PM #28:	Mead posted... Why do people keep citing wikipedia today It was the first link that popped up for me lol --- Just because you're trash doesn't mean you can't do great things. It's called garbage can, not garbage cannot. <cite>green dragon posted [p:906439934] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep citing wikipedia today</quote> It was the first link that popped up for me lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/07/18 6:15:44 PM #29:	I have a lot of cloud saves. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906445584] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>I have a lot of cloud saves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frankspank 08/07/18 7:03:33 PM #30:	DPsx7 posted... adjl posted... DPsx7 posted... infect Lol. Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion. If you haven't played any cloud gaming, then you can't possibly know. I have, and had zero problems with any of the lag you presume will be there. You are completely wrong and basing your decision on speculation. I suppose you think you were clever calling them "M$"? That's older than you are bruh. Get some original material. Not to mention I highly doubt dude was trolling you, you just got your panties in a bunch and they were irritating your vagina. <cite>frankspank posted [p:906448116] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>infect </quote> Lol.</quote> Go back to your special classes with the rest of the fart waffles that troll me. Of course I'm right, when haven't I? Infect is the word I wanted to use because this is something we can't allow to spread. M$ infected the market with online fees, too many didn't say no and now look where it got us. In any case so many games are reliant on precise timing and cloud gaming will destroy whole genres. Don't be naive by thinking internet speeds will increase. ISP's aren't our friend. They won't build out, ask for more and more, then place restrictions on our plans. I refuse to give them any power over my gaming. At least not the offline portion.</quote> If you haven't played any cloud gaming, then you can't possibly know. I have, and had zero problems with any of the lag you presume will be there. You are completely wrong and basing your decision on speculation. I suppose you think you were clever calling them "M$"? That's older than you are bruh. Get some original material. Not to mention I highly doubt dude was trolling you, you just got your panties in a bunch and they were irritating your vagina.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/07/18 7:54:02 PM #31:	frankspank posted... If you haven't played any cloud gaming, then you can't possibly know. I have, and had zero problems with any of the lag you presume will be there. You are completely wrong and basing your decision on speculation. I suppose you think you were clever calling them "M$"? That's older than you are bruh. Get some original material. Not to mention I highly doubt dude was trolling you, you just got your panties in a bunch and they were irritating your vagina. This isn't up for debate. It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant. Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash before pretending to be an expert. Clever? No, it's been like that for ages. My panties are none of your business. This site is full of trolls and I'll kick 'em around as much as I can. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906450961] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>frankspank posted...</cite> <quote>If you haven't played any cloud gaming, then you can't possibly know. I have, and had zero problems with any of the lag you presume will be there. You are completely wrong and basing your decision on speculation. I suppose you think you were clever calling them "M$"? That's older than you are bruh. Get some original material. Not to mention I highly doubt dude was trolling you, you just got your panties in a bunch and they were irritating your vagina.</quote> This isn't up for debate. It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant. Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash before pretending to be an expert. Clever? No, it's been like that for ages. My panties are none of your business. This site is full of trolls and I'll kick 'em around as much as I can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 08/07/18 8:04:47 PM #32:	green dragon posted... adjl posted... It isn't According to this Wikipedia page, steam link is classified as cloud gaming: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_gaming I could see it going either way, I was just going along with your objection. DPsx7 posted... It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant Well now that's objectively false. Many genres? Yes. Any kind of gaming? Absolutely not. Significant lag is annoying regardless of when it happens, but even then there are plenty of cases where it isn't game-breaking. DPsx7 posted... Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash And how much of this "mobile trash" have you played, to be making such a comparison? Or are you just parroting the opinions of somebody else who's criticized mobile gaming without thinking for yourself in any way? <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:906451715] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>It isn't</quote> According to this Wikipedia page, steam link is classified as cloud gaming: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_gaming</quote> I could see it going either way, I was just going along with your objection. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant</quote> Well now that's objectively false. Many genres? Yes. Any kind of gaming? Absolutely not. Significant lag is annoying regardless of when it happens, but even then there are plenty of cases where it isn't game-breaking. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash </quote> And how much of this "mobile trash" have you played, to be making such a comparison? Or are you just parroting the opinions of somebody else who's criticized mobile gaming without thinking for yourself in any way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/07/18 8:35:44 PM #33:	_AdjI_ posted... DPsx7 posted... It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant Well now that's objectively false. Many genres? Yes. Any kind of gaming? Absolutely not. Significant lag is annoying regardless of when it happens, but even then there are plenty of cases where it isn't game-breaking. DPsx7 posted... Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash And how much of this "mobile trash" have you played, to be making such a comparison? Or are you just parroting the opinions of somebody else who's criticized mobile gaming without thinking for yourself in any way? Do I need to be that specific every time? I said before that some genres might work. Here I generalized because cloud gaming is a bad idea and I shouldn't need to tell the entire story from scratch. Take a guess. Why would I play it? Then you'll ask how I know it's trash and the quick answer is you can't make a lot without access to buttons. If you like "match-3's" then you're set. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906453566] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a fact about any kind of gaming. Input needs to be instant</quote> Well now that's objectively false. Many genres? Yes. Any kind of gaming? Absolutely not. Significant lag is annoying regardless of when it happens, but even then there are plenty of cases where it isn't game-breaking. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you want to play something more complex than mobile trash </quote> And how much of this "mobile trash" have you played, to be making such a comparison? Or are you just parroting the opinions of somebody else who's criticized mobile gaming without thinking for yourself in any way?</quote> Do I need to be that specific every time? I said before that some genres might work. Here I generalized because cloud gaming is a bad idea and I shouldn't need to tell the entire story from scratch. Take a guess. Why would I play it? Then you'll ask how I know it's trash and the quick answer is you can't make a lot without access to buttons. If you like "match-3's" then you're set.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth C Ryu 08/07/18 10:50:48 PM #34:	Because the TC is specifically commenting on the ability to play a high end game on a crappy computer, they are talking about "cloud gaming" as in some server does the rendering and sends you back the images. Which basically means: A server with ping is providing the actual rendering. Which means input lag that makes even the most infamous controllers seem reasonable by comparison. To give commentary on the other argument that seems to be developing for some reason... As a person who despises smartphone games, I would rather play those then "cloud gaming." Which, to reiterate, is NOT just being able to download games easily via a cloud service. At least not for the purpose of this topic. . --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth C Ryu posted [p:906461737] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Because the TC is specifically commenting on the ability to play a high end game on a crappy computer, they are talking about "cloud gaming" as in some server does the rendering and sends you back the images. Which basically means: A server with ping is providing the actual rendering. Which means input lag that makes even the most infamous controllers seem reasonable by comparison. To give commentary on the other argument that seems to be developing for some reason... As a person who despises smartphone games, I would rather play those then "cloud gaming." Which, to reiterate, is NOT just being able to download games easily via a cloud service. At least not for the purpose of this topic. .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/08/18 2:07:08 PM #35:	DPsx7 posted... Do I need to be that specific every time? You need to not try and broaden your statement more than it can actually be broadened. DPsx7 posted... the quick answer is you can't make a lot without access to buttons. The DS had no shortage of quality touch-only games, and that was with a relatively small, primitive touch screen. Sounds to me like you just lack creativity. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:906501528] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Do I need to be that specific every time?</quote> You need to not try and broaden your statement more than it can actually be broadened. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>the quick answer is you can't make a lot without access to buttons. </quote> The DS had no shortage of quality touch-only games, and that was with a relatively small, primitive touch screen. Sounds to me like you just lack creativity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/08/18 2:19:13 PM #36:	also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay. --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:906502327] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/08/18 4:01:51 PM #37:	likehelly posted... also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay. Maybe in 10-20 years from now. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906509647] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay.</quote> Maybe in 10-20 years from now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeyImAlex 08/10/18 12:49:27 AM #38:	https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/3/17645752/shadow-cloud-pc-blade-release-date-us-price I mean, this looks like it could be neat. No? --- rock&roll he loved me ere i knew him and all my love is due him. <cite>HeyImAlex posted [p:906607566] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/3/17645752/shadow-cloud-pc-blade-release-date-us-price I mean, this looks like it could be neat. No?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth C Ryu 08/10/18 5:26:08 PM #39:	likehelly posted... also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay. The delay of a TV is small. And consistent. No matter when you play the game, that TV will have the same delay within a millisecond. This means that despite the delay, you get used to it, because it is at least consistent. And, well, it is also much smaller than the delay you would get from streaming rendered frames over the internet. Also, the TV input delay, however small it may be, would still be ADDED to the delay caused from internet ping. So you can't really just say "TVs have input delay too" and act like that makes cloud gaming magically OK. Yes, this may not have actually been your argument, but I just felt like blabbing on about it. Many modern HDTVs actually have a "gaming mode" where they disable their fancy newfangled post-processing stuff to reduce the input delay, as it happens. I do not know if this actually makes them any faster than old fashioned ray tube TVs or not though. It may just be something they added because otherwise the post processing actually becomes noticeable to a gamer though. . --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth C Ryu posted [p:906648382] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>also just fyi, you will never have instant input times. tvs themselves have input delay.</quote> The delay of a TV is small. And consistent. No matter when you play the game, that TV will have the same delay within a millisecond. This means that despite the delay, you get used to it, because it is at least consistent. And, well, it is also much smaller than the delay you would get from streaming rendered frames over the internet. Also, the TV input delay, however small it may be, would still be ADDED to the delay caused from internet ping. So you can't really just say "TVs have input delay too" and act like that makes cloud gaming magically OK. Yes, this may not have actually been your argument, but I just felt like blabbing on about it. Many modern HDTVs actually have a "gaming mode" where they disable their fancy newfangled post-processing stuff to reduce the input delay, as it happens. I do not know if this actually makes them any faster than old fashioned ray tube TVs or not though. It may just be something they added because otherwise the post processing actually becomes noticeable to a gamer though. .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/10/18 5:38:32 PM #40:	HeyImAlex posted... https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/3/17645752/shadow-cloud-pc-blade-release-date-us-price I mean, this looks like it could be neat. No? Why do companies keep doing this? The market doesn't want it. The PSP Go bombed. Ouya? What about the original ideas for the XBO? You look at the flip side and I have at least 4 or 5 links to sites that produce physical copies of indie games. The demand for discs is still strong. Nobody ever stops to think that streaming has a critical flaw - reliance on your ISP. If my games are going to have a middleman I'd choose the store. They tend to drop prices over time. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:906649051] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote><cite>HeyImAlex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/3/17645752/shadow-cloud-pc-blade-release-date-us-price I mean, this looks like it could be neat. No?</quote> Why do companies keep doing this? The market doesn't want it. The PSP Go bombed. Ouya? What about the original ideas for the XBO? You look at the flip side and I have at least 4 or 5 links to sites that produce physical copies of indie games. The demand for discs is still strong. Nobody ever stops to think that streaming has a critical flaw - reliance on your ISP. If my games are going to have a middleman I'd choose the store. They tend to drop prices over time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth C Ryu 08/10/18 5:41:49 PM #41:	Indeed. And any demonstration is likely to occur in better than normal conditions, like with a local or same-city server at the least. . --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth C Ryu posted [p:906649236] in Cloud Gami... [t:76877157]...</cite> <quote>Indeed. And any demonstration is likely to occur in better than normal conditions, like with a local or same-city server at the least. .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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