Board 8 > I think Solo's failure is on itself, not The Last Jedi

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LinkMarioSamus
07/19/18 3:21:52 PM
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Obviously the backlash towards The Last Jedi hardly helped, but as time passes I'm more convinced Solo failed on its own merits, and that it's debatable how much a "boycott" could really have hurt the movie.

Is there any context for Han's backstory in the movies other than some dialogue between Han and Lando in The Empire Strikes Back? I don't think that alone would motivate many to want to see Han's backstory - although I guess it is kind of nice it's there? I dunno, the minute I heard about the announcement of the Han Solo movie I couldn't believe Lucasfilm was actually going forward with the idea.
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Corrik
07/19/18 3:33:56 PM
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I think Solo's failure is on itself, not The Last Jedi

Obviously the backlash towards The Last Jedi hardly helped,

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LinkMarioSamus
07/19/18 3:35:13 PM
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I was generalizing. What I meant is that I'm not sure how big of a factor The Last Jedi's fan reception was.

Who wants to see a movie based on some friendly banter in Empire Strikes Back? At least Rogue One was based on the opening crawl of the first movie.
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scarletspeed7
07/19/18 3:37:00 PM
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It's not about the banter. It's about the character. Han Solo is definitely an extremely popular character and has a large enough fanbase for Disney/Lucasfilm to consider giving him a platform for a film of his own.
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Nanis23
07/19/18 3:39:55 PM
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Link kicks ass. Why? He kicks ass by virtue of being a knight. Knights, as we all know from history class, kicked ass. They came in hordes, rode horses, and slashed people up good. Link does all those, and more. What killed knights? Longbowmen. Longbowmen were little crappers that had the annoying ability to shoot arrows right through the thickest of armor. Imagine rushing at the enemy, resplendent in your ass-kicking armor, and then the guy next to you falls down. Then, another flash of movement and there's an arrow through your chest. It went through your armor like it was paper. Those damned archers and their ass-kicking bows. While you're bleeding there, you realize that your ass-kicking was not superior to theirs, and if you had a bow of some sort you may have had superior ass-kickingness and then blazed through those little archer-men like they were nothing. Link, however, is like an Archer-knight. He's got a sword, arrows, and a shield. He doesn't have that crappy armor that barely lets you move, he just carries a shield and then pwnz stuff hard. All his junk kicks ass too. He's got an Ocarina. The name Ocarina just kicks ass. But this isn't any Ocarina, its an Ocarina of Time. He can friggin travel through time with it, and he can do all sorts of cool stuff. He controls the planets rotation, changing day to night and vice-versa. This Ocarina kicks ass. He has the help of faeries. In the rare event that he falls, they revive him. So you're all like, "YEAH! I killed him, and overcame his ass-kicking power!" and then he comes to life and then kills you, because he just kicks that much ass. His arrows aren't just regular arrows, they're all sorts of crap. They can be infused with fire and never burn up, they can freeze people, and they can even vanquish evil with a few well-place shots. Not just that, but his bow-and-arrow isn't just a BAA, its a friggin missile launcher. THOSE ARROWS CAN CARRY FRIGGIN BOMBS! So this guy has the equivalent of a freeze-ray, a flamethrower, a gun-of-holiness, and some sort of rocket launcher. Just with his friggin arrows. Therefore, he must kick ass. Lots and lots of ass. But it doesn't stop there.
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KujikawaRising
07/19/18 3:47:00 PM
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Timing was a pretty big factor too. I think they're overkilling the franchise and that doesn't work well long-term, mostly. Every other year sounds about right.
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Ashethan
07/19/18 3:55:10 PM
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Solo failed because they don't have a time machine yet to go back in time and pull Young Harrison Ford to play the part of Han Solo.

Once they do, that'll be the second thing they do after bringing Walt back.
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Anagram
07/19/18 3:56:53 PM
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Solo failed because the backstory of Han Solo was inherently irrelevant. He should just be some dude.
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Ashethan
07/19/18 3:58:15 PM
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Anagram posted...
Solo failed because the backstory of Han Solo was inherently irrelevant. He should just be some dude.


Some dude who shoots first*
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Hardcore_Adult
07/19/18 3:58:33 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
Link kicks ass. Why? He kicks ass by virtue of being a knight. Knights, as we all know from history class, kicked ass. They came in hordes, rode horses, and slashed people up good. Link does all those, and more. What killed knights? Longbowmen. Longbowmen were little crappers that had the annoying ability to shoot arrows right through the thickest of armor. Imagine rushing at the enemy, resplendent in your ass-kicking armor, and then the guy next to you falls down. Then, another flash of movement and there's an arrow through your chest. It went through your armor like it was paper. Those damned archers and their ass-kicking bows. While you're bleeding there, you realize that your ass-kicking was not superior to theirs, and if you had a bow of some sort you may have had superior ass-kickingness and then blazed through those little archer-men like they were nothing. Link, however, is like an Archer-knight. He's got a sword, arrows, and a shield. He doesn't have that crappy armor that barely lets you move, he just carries a shield and then pwnz stuff hard. All his junk kicks ass too. He's got an Ocarina. The name Ocarina just kicks ass. But this isn't any Ocarina, its an Ocarina of Time. He can friggin travel through time with it, and he can do all sorts of cool stuff. He controls the planets rotation, changing day to night and vice-versa. This Ocarina kicks ass. He has the help of faeries. In the rare event that he falls, they revive him. So you're all like, "YEAH! I killed him, and overcame his ass-kicking power!" and then he comes to life and then kills you, because he just kicks that much ass. His arrows aren't just regular arrows, they're all sorts of crap. They can be infused with fire and never burn up, they can freeze people, and they can even vanquish evil with a few well-place shots. Not just that, but his bow-and-arrow isn't just a BAA, its a friggin missile launcher. THOSE ARROWS CAN CARRY FRIGGIN BOMBS! So this guy has the equivalent of a freeze-ray, a flamethrower, a gun-of-holiness, and some sort of rocket launcher. Just with his friggin arrows. Therefore, he must kick ass. Lots and lots of ass. But it doesn't stop there.


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