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Joeydollaz
07/14/18 6:10:31 PM
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Where is the story?, I am not liking this FLOATING GUN movement either...

I should delete this? or will the narrative pick up soon? this is freaking boring.

I should had not started Wolfenstein 2 before this, that is sooo much better and better structured as a game.
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CatataFish462
07/14/18 6:11:50 PM
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Doom 2016 is great
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DarthWendy
07/14/18 6:13:49 PM
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CatataFish462 posted...
Doom 2016 is great

Best damn shooter in recent years.
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PanzerElite
07/14/18 6:14:33 PM
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Just play Doom 1 and 2 with mods. Far more bang for your buck.
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Mystery_Mission
07/14/18 6:14:50 PM
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DarthWendy posted...
CatataFish462 posted...
Doom 2016 is great

Best damn shooter in recent years.
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specialkid8
07/14/18 6:16:04 PM
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DOOM had great gameplay but it had a real identity crisis. It was a lot of fun but I have no desire to pick it up again. Once you've been through it once it has nothing else to offer.
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wackyteen
07/14/18 6:19:15 PM
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Doom 2016 is fun af.

but if you're only into story driven schlock then yeah you're probably not gonna get much out of it.

like the whole point is mindlessly dispatching the hordes of Hell.
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CapnMuffin
07/14/18 6:20:00 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
DOOM had great gameplay but it had a real identity crisis. It was a lot of fun but I have no desire to pick it up again. Once you've been through it once it has nothing else to offer.

Did you try peoples custom maps?
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Hicks233
07/14/18 6:21:31 PM
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Joeydollaz posted...
Where is the story?, I am not liking this FLOATING GUN movement either...

I should delete this? or will the narrative pick up soon? this is freaking boring.

I should had not started Wolfenstein 2 before this, that is sooo much better and better structured as a game.

Are you being serious? It's hard to tell.

It's Doom, there's not meant to be a story. That they tried to shoehorn that shit into it in the first place is baffling. You run round and shoot things, that's Doom.
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specialkid8
07/14/18 8:34:08 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
It's Doom, there's not meant to be a story.


That's part of the reason it felt off to me. Something doesn't have to be story focused to have a half decent story. Just saying "Fuck it, it's a dumb game" isn't really an excuse to not try at all on. It is possible to have fun gameplay and some semblance of a framework for why you're doing it.
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wackyteen
07/14/18 9:06:02 PM
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specialkid8 posted...


That's part of the reason it felt off to me. Something doesn't have to be story focused to have a half decent story. Just saying "f*** it, it's a dumb game" isn't really an excuse to not try at all on. It is possible to have fun gameplay and some semblance of a framework for why you're doing it.

but it did.

It had as much of a plot as a Doom needed to have <_<
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giantblimpN7
07/14/18 9:07:40 PM
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TheDarkCircle
07/14/18 9:11:10 PM
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imagine playing video games for the story in 2018
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ledbowman
07/14/18 9:14:33 PM
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My favorite fps.
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Hicks233
07/15/18 4:20:10 AM
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specialkid8 posted...
Hicks233 posted...
It's Doom, there's not meant to be a story.


That's part of the reason it felt off to me. Something doesn't have to be story focused to have a half decent story. Just saying "Fuck it, it's a dumb game" isn't really an excuse to not try at all on. It is possible to have fun gameplay and some semblance of a framework for why you're doing it.

The framework was to go round levels and shoot things - the feedback from shooting and atmosphere *were* the reward framework and motivation.

When the original game was developed, I think it was Tom Hall? created a "Doom Bible" with a lot of backstory in it. He ended up getting canned from id due to trying to keep on bringing story into the games. All you ever needed to know: was that there were demons, go shoot them.
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ProfessorKukui
07/15/18 4:26:20 AM
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SuperShake666
07/15/18 4:33:57 AM
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specialkid8 posted...

That's part of the reason it felt off to me. Something doesn't have to be story focused to have a half decent story. Just saying "Fuck it, it's a dumb game" isn't really an excuse to not try at all on. It is possible to have fun gameplay and some semblance of a framework for why you're doing it


Which DOOM has in spades if you collect and read all the codex logs. Example: The Doom Marine has been fighting the legions of Hell for eons across both time and dimensions. Every Doom game ever, including mods, is canon. Every game has the same Marine and the demons truly fear him and call him The Doom Slayer. They finally defeated him when they trapped him in the Sarcophagus after dropping a giant ancient temple on him in Hell. But once the Demons invaded the Mars in DOOM, he woke once again to continue his slaughter.
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Esrac
07/15/18 4:48:47 AM
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You don't need a story in games. That is optional.

Look, if you want to kill hundreds of demons like a badass, Doom is for you.

If you want a bunch of story like a pussy, well, have fun reading the codex stuff.
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VectorChaos
07/15/18 4:58:38 AM
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Doom has a very simple, straightforward story, and I think Doom 2016 did it well:

cGcRY0A
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St0rmFury
07/15/18 5:06:01 AM
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Just like Serious Sam, I don't play it for the story.
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AvantgardeAClue
07/15/18 5:10:40 AM
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Lmao@ people saying Doom 4 had no story

Just because there isnt tons of expository cutscenes doesnt mean there wasnt loads of intel, voice logs, and database files you could find if you wanted to

The idea was to put it there if you wanted it, but keep it optional if you didnt.

Man, love Doom 4. So upset reviewers only judged it mostly for the multiplayer.
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Rika_Furude
07/15/18 5:31:49 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
CatataFish462 posted...
Doom 2016 is great

Best damn shooter in recent years.

not as good as overwatch
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Irony
07/15/18 5:32:44 AM
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Doom 2016 was boring
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Esrac
07/15/18 6:01:25 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Lmao@ people saying Doom 4 had no story

Just because there isnt tons of expository cutscenes doesnt mean there wasnt loads of intel, voice logs, and database files you could find if you wanted to

The idea was to put it there if you wanted it, but keep it optional if you didnt.

Man, love Doom 4. So upset reviewers only judged it mostly for the multiplayer.


The opening few minutes set the pace for the game's story.

Guy tries to give exposition through monitor. Doomguy punches monitor. Killing demons begins.
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ledbowman
07/15/18 6:02:32 AM
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Esrac posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Lmao@ people saying Doom 4 had no story

Just because there isnt tons of expository cutscenes doesnt mean there wasnt loads of intel, voice logs, and database files you could find if you wanted to

The idea was to put it there if you wanted it, but keep it optional if you didnt.

Man, love Doom 4. So upset reviewers only judged it mostly for the multiplayer.


The opening few minutes set the pace for the game's story.

Guy tries to give exposition through monitor. Doomguy punches monitor. Killing demons begins.

Exactly
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Esrac
07/15/18 6:03:47 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Esrac posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Lmao@ people saying Doom 4 had no story

Just because there isnt tons of expository cutscenes doesnt mean there wasnt loads of intel, voice logs, and database files you could find if you wanted to

The idea was to put it there if you wanted it, but keep it optional if you didnt.

Man, love Doom 4. So upset reviewers only judged it mostly for the multiplayer.


The opening few minutes set the pace for the game's story.

Guy tries to give exposition through monitor. Doomguy punches monitor. Killing demons begins.

Exactly


And that's a good thing.
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DarthWendy
07/15/18 6:17:00 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
DarthWendy posted...
CatataFish462 posted...
Doom 2016 is great

Best damn shooter in recent years.

not as good as overwatch

Overwatch is multiplayer only. Doom shines through its campaign, not its multiplayer.
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ledbowman
07/15/18 7:19:25 AM
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Esrac posted...
ledbowman posted...
Esrac posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Lmao@ people saying Doom 4 had no story

Just because there isnt tons of expository cutscenes doesnt mean there wasnt loads of intel, voice logs, and database files you could find if you wanted to

The idea was to put it there if you wanted it, but keep it optional if you didnt.

Man, love Doom 4. So upset reviewers only judged it mostly for the multiplayer.


The opening few minutes set the pace for the game's story.

Guy tries to give exposition through monitor. Doomguy punches monitor. Killing demons begins.

Exactly


And that's a good thing.

During my first playthrough, that was when I first suspected I was in for something special. Refreshing.
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Crepes
07/15/18 7:30:36 AM
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As others have said. Some lore is there in the data logs. Take it or leave it if you want to invest in the story or not.
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ThyCorndog
07/15/18 7:49:47 AM
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VectorChaos posted...
Doom has a very simple, straightforward story, and I think Doom 2016 did it well:

cGcRY0A

lol
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008Zulu
07/15/18 8:09:01 AM
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It's better than Gears of War. 100+ gb download, all to hide behind a wall while shooting.
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