Poll of the Day > Pregnant women in immigration detention under Trump saying been denied medical

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/11/18 5:28:51 PM
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Pregnant women in immigration detention under the Trump admin saying been denied medical care, shackled around the stomach, and suffered miscarriages from the abuse. GOP logic: abortion? Bad. Abusing pregnant immigrants until they miscarry? Law and order. https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/pregnant-migrant-women-miscarriage-cpb-ice-detention-trump?utm_term=.qpgVplx1P%23.pqjaV94M8
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TheOrangeMisfit
07/11/18 5:30:48 PM
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What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.
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Fam_Fam
07/11/18 5:32:12 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.


who said they should get top notch care?
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/11/18 5:33:27 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.

Pick a prob. Shotgunning an seein what sticks is hella lazy.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/11/18 5:49:03 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.


who said they should get top notch care?

His weak argument.
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wwinterj25
07/11/18 5:58:33 PM
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JixHedgehog
07/11/18 6:21:09 PM
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What did she expect coming into the country illegally?

To get immediate health care coverage that most Americans themselves have a difficult time obtaining and affording?

No. She was stupid enough to put herself and her unborn baby into this situation, and with the current hub-bub over immigration right now, she made a very very poor decision
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Mofuji
07/11/18 6:38:09 PM
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She just wanted an anchor baby and hopes that she can stall it long enough to plop the kid out.
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Kyuubi4269
07/11/18 6:44:57 PM
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Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.
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ClarkDuke
07/11/18 11:05:26 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

you sound compassionate, ok?
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JixHedgehog
07/12/18 2:28:56 AM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

you sound compassionate, ok?


He means pregnant Mexicans won't hop the fence if there's a zero tolerance policy on pregnancies
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Mead
07/12/18 2:52:26 AM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.


Why do the two need to be mutually exclusive?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 3:23:00 AM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

you sound compassionate, ok?

If it's compassionate to fuck your economy, why would I want to be compassionate? Do stupid shit, win stupid prizes, you don't get free stuff because life sad.
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Lord_Shadow
07/12/18 4:55:40 AM
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Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then
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Mead
07/12/18 5:01:27 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then


Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic

You feel the same way about someone that gets a speeding ticket?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 5:08:32 AM
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Mead posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then


Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic

You feel the same way about someone that gets a speeding ticket?

You're getting it wrong, this person did something wrong so they don't deserve free stuff.
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Lord_Shadow
07/12/18 5:09:10 AM
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Mead posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then


Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic

You feel the same way about someone that gets a speeding ticket?

Sure why wouldn't I speeding is a crime just as crossing the border illegally is a crime and as far as I'm concerned she shouldn't receive any medical service she can't afford as well she should be tossed back across the border furthermore if she has any assets that can be sold expensive watches or jewelry that should be taken and sold in order to help pay for her deportation.
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Mead
07/12/18 5:12:07 AM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Mead posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then


Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic

You feel the same way about someone that gets a speeding ticket?

Sure why wouldn't I speeding is a crime just as crossing the border illegally is a crime and as far as I'm concerned she shouldn't receive any medical service she can't afford as well she should be tossed back across the border furthermore if she has any assets that can be sold expensive watches or jewelry that should be taken and sold in order to help pay for her deportation.


You sound positively charming
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Lord_Shadow
07/12/18 5:20:05 AM
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Mead posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Mead posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Probably shouldn't cross the border illegally then


Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic

You feel the same way about someone that gets a speeding ticket?

Sure why wouldn't I speeding is a crime just as crossing the border illegally is a crime and as far as I'm concerned she shouldn't receive any medical service she can't afford as well she should be tossed back across the border furthermore if she has any assets that can be sold expensive watches or jewelry that should be taken and sold in order to help pay for her deportation.


You sound positively charming

Thank you
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 5:21:25 AM
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Mead posted...
You sound positively charming

So does the criminal trying to drop anchor.
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Yellow
07/12/18 5:25:52 AM
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@TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.

So how do you feel about how the 1 year old children being separated from their parents and put into mismatched Mexican baby jails?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 5:27:17 AM
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Yellow posted...
@TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.

So how do you feel about how the 1 year old children being separated from their parents and put into mismatched Mexican baby jails?

Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.
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Yellow
07/12/18 5:29:27 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.

I only have so much room in my sig.
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 5:32:10 AM
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Yellow posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.

I only have so much room in my sig.

You know children who's parents go to jail don't get to stay at home, right? Why should immigrant children have better treatment?
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Yellow
07/12/18 5:37:47 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.

I know who wants to punish one year olds.

I wouldn't say that out loud tbh. It's a little creepy.
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TheOrangeMisfit
07/12/18 7:01:23 AM
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Yellow posted...
@TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.

So how do you feel about how the 1 year old children being separated from their parents and put into mismatched Mexican baby jails?


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adjl
07/12/18 8:07:24 AM
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This topic makes me weep for humanity.
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 8:29:43 AM
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Yellow posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.

I know who wants to punish one year olds.

I wouldn't say that out loud tbh. It's a little creepy.

ur mum clearly.

Parents who act up need harsh punishment as their being a parent is clearly detrimental to the child's well-being.
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SunWuKung420
07/12/18 11:48:44 AM
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adjl posted...
This topic makes me weep for humanity.


There are some severly disturbed people in the world and this forum gives them the ability to spew their hatred.
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Doctor Foxx
07/12/18 11:56:04 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Yellow posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Their parents endangered their children by their illegal actions, they should be punished harder.

I only have so much room in my sig.

You know children who's parents go to jail don't get to stay at home, right? Why should immigrant children have better treatment?

People that commit misdemeanors (improper border crossing is only a misdemeanor) don't get sent to jail or have their children taken away

Unless they're foreign

Where you people apparently think it's ok to force a woman to miscarry due to her national origin
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 12:10:24 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
People that commit misdemeanors (improper border crossing is only a misdemeanor) don't get sent to jail or have their children taken away

Let's be more clear, she chose to be detained (like jail) by border enforcement to gain entry, she is being assessed so the child needs a supervisor.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Unless they're foreign

Foreigners aren't the same as nationals, yes. This is a two-way street.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Where you people apparently think it's ok to force a woman to miscarry due to her national origin

Not force. If she wants entry to a foreign country then she needs to surrender any means to jump through loopholes in the law. This is also why green card marriages aren't allowed.
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Mead
07/12/18 12:11:47 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
Yellow posted...
@TheOrangeMisfit posted...
What a reliable source you've provided! What a shame, we should give them top notch medical care and completely ignore they illegally came to the country! That's a grand idea.

So how do you feel about how the 1 year old children being separated from their parents and put into mismatched Mexican baby jails?


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Babies should know better, theyre practically adults
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Doctor Foxx
07/12/18 12:14:00 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Not force. If she wants entry to a foreign country then she needs to surrender any means to jump through loopholes in the law.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

Sounds like forced abortion for a misdemeanor

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Foreigners aren't the same as nationals, yes. This is a two-way street.

Foreigners have the same basic human rights as citizens
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 12:21:36 PM
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Mead posted...
Babies should know better, theyre practically adults

Babies are functionally the property of their parents, they are punished for their parents' mistakes.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Sounds like forced abortion for a misdemeanor

She can choose to go back home.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Foreigners have the same basic human rights as citizens

And Americans are denied free healthcare lol
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Doctor Foxx
07/12/18 12:24:06 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
She can choose to go back home

No, she can't, no one in these internment camps can. There's no choosing to leave
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wwinterj25
07/12/18 12:24:53 PM
#36:


Mead posted...
Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic


Seems like sound logic to me. It's better than "let's help everyone no matter what!" logic some folk have.
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 12:29:22 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
She can choose to go back home

No, she can't, no one in these internment camps can. There's no choosing to leave

They chose to enter. If you choose to enter a train, you can't complain that you have to wait til the next stop to get off.
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Doctor Foxx
07/12/18 12:30:55 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
She can choose to go back home

No, she can't, no one in these internment camps can. There's no choosing to leave

They chose to enter. If you choose to enter a train, you can't complain that you have to wait til the next stop to get off.

If you stay on a train one stop too long you're not forced to abort a pregnancy and the train conductor can't hold you infinitely and induce a miscarriage
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 12:34:51 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
If you stay on a train one stop too long you're not forced to abort a pregnancy and the train conductor can't hold you infinitely and induce a miscarriage

If you stay on a train one stop too long, you'll end up on a stop you don't want. In this case she went on the wrong fucking train, still her fault she isn't where she wants to be.
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Doctor Foxx
07/12/18 12:36:21 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
If you stay on a train one stop too long you're not forced to abort a pregnancy and the train conductor can't hold you infinitely and induce a miscarriage

If you stay on a train one stop too long, you'll end up on a stop you don't want. In this case she went on the wrong fucking train, still her fault she isn't where she wants to be.

No, it's not, that's some extremely disgusting victim blaming and forgiveness of reprehensible treatment by the US government

If you think this will only be done to those entering the country you are so wrong
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Mead
07/12/18 12:36:57 PM
#41:


wwinterj25 posted...
Mead posted...
Ah the good old

This person did something wrong, they deserve anything bad that happens to them since a criminal isnt a human being

Logic


Seems like sound logic to me.


Shameful
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 12:44:16 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
No, it's not

Is tho

Doctor Foxx posted...
that's some extremely disgusting victim blaming

We are all responsible for our actions, and the US has every right to guard its border however it feels fit. What you're doing is some pretty disgusting communism.

Doctor Foxx posted...
If you think this will only be done to those entering the country you are so wrong

Well this is the only example I've seen so I can only operate on what I know. It's up to you to present evidence and reasoning why it suits your belief if you want to debate this.
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ClarkDuke
07/12/18 2:57:55 PM
#43:


JixHedgehog posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

you sound compassionate, ok?


He means pregnant Mexicans won't hop the fence if there's a zero tolerance policy on pregnancies

I understood, but let's not pretend they'd stop trying if enacted, ok?
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Blighboy
07/12/18 3:12:43 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
We are all responsible for our actions, and the US has every right to guard its border however it feels fit. What you're doing is some pretty disgusting communism.

Do communist countries have the right to guard their borders? Does that also qualify as disgusting communism?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 3:47:50 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
JixHedgehog posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Abortion should be a requirement for pregnant people who get caught sneaking across the border but still want in.

you sound compassionate, ok?


He means pregnant Mexicans won't hop the fence if there's a zero tolerance policy on pregnancies

I understood, but let's not pretend they'd stop trying if enacted, ok?

Then they have the choice to leave or abort, and neither are things people don't do willingly.

Blighboy posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
We are all responsible for our actions, and the US has every right to guard its border however it feels fit. What you're doing is some pretty disgusting communism.

Do communist countries have the right to guard their borders? Does that also qualify as disgusting communism?

Fairly sure comminism doesn't believe in ownership so they don't believe in borders.
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ClarkDuke
07/12/18 3:53:24 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Then they have a choice to leave or abort, and neither are things people don't do willingly

A concentration camp is far from a choice, ok? Watch out for double negatives in the future, ok?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 3:54:01 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Then they have a choice to leave or abort, and neither are things people don't do willingly

A concentration camp is far from a choice, ok? Watch out for double negatives in the future, ok?

They choose detention to immigrate.
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ClarkDuke
07/12/18 3:57:59 PM
#48:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Then they have a choice to leave or abort, and neither are things people don't do willingly

A concentration camp is far from a choice, ok? Watch out for double negatives in the future, ok?

They choose detention to immigrate.

Did they?
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Kyuubi4269
07/12/18 4:18:33 PM
#49:


ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Then they have a choice to leave or abort, and neither are things people don't do willingly

A concentration camp is far from a choice, ok? Watch out for double negatives in the future, ok?

They choose detention to immigrate.

Did they?

They didn't choose to go home.
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Yellow
07/12/18 5:49:16 PM
#50:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Parents who act up need harsh punishment as their being a parent is clearly detrimental to the child's well-being.

Uh, no. You said you wanted to punish the child.
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