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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 1:29:39 PM
#303:


MrPeppers posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
As I've said:

Even were it the case that the guy was being an asshat, her reaction and subsequent behavior was absolutely reasonable grounds for termination.


Ding ding ding! Literally end of discussion.


and literally anyone else who says otherwise is wrong, biased, corrupt or anti-men! probably all 3, amirite, fellas?
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Leanaunfurled
07/11/18 1:31:52 PM
#304:


You guys are still giving this Frisbee dude attention? o_O
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MrPeppers
07/11/18 1:32:06 PM
#305:


FrisbeeDude posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
As I've said:

Even were it the case that the guy was being an asshat, her reaction and subsequent behavior was absolutely reasonable grounds for termination.


Ding ding ding! Literally end of discussion.


and literally anyone else who says otherwise is wrong, biased, corrupt or anti-men! probably all 3, amirite, fellas?


No. This is standard business practice, brother. This has nothing to do with whatever youre trying to project on people you personally disagree with.
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DuneMan
07/11/18 1:34:50 PM
#306:


*sees topic with tons of replies*
Polygon.com

Oh....

Reading the comments themselves I'd say ArenaNet made the right call. She was being hostile to one of the company's customers who politely disagreed with something she did. Toxic behavior like that is harmful to the company.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 1:35:14 PM
#307:


MrPeppers posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
As I've said:

Even were it the case that the guy was being an asshat, her reaction and subsequent behavior was absolutely reasonable grounds for termination.


Ding ding ding! Literally end of discussion.


and literally anyone else who says otherwise is wrong, biased, corrupt or anti-men! probably all 3, amirite, fellas?


No. This is standard business practice, brother. This has nothing to do with whatever youre trying to project on people you personally disagree with.


it's literally been the response by gamerbros to EVERYONE who has sided with her
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MrPeppers
07/11/18 1:36:06 PM
#308:


Can we just put the white noise of the gamer bros aside and have some real talk about the whole thing?
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 1:36:18 PM
#309:


Leanaunfurled posted...
You guys are still giving this Frisbee dude attention? o_O


Not enough drama for you this week on the boards, so you had to come into my topic to shit post? I understand. addiction is a motherfucka
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DarthAragorn
07/11/18 1:36:26 PM
#310:


MrPeppers posted...
Can we just put the white noise of the gamer bros aside and have some real talk about the whole thing?

not with TC, no
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 1:38:35 PM
#311:


MrPeppers posted...
Can we just put the white noise of the gamer bros aside and have some real talk about the whole thing?


lmfao I cant even suggest her firing was an overreaction without being accused of excusing her actions because her gender. those cheering her firing dont want a discussion. they want to revel in their gotcha moment and are whiny because they don't have 100 percent agreement on their behavior
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 1:49:19 PM
#313:


Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
You know what you guys are right I am wrong. She opened herself to discussion when she made that comment

After she made it clear that she wasn't interested in his advice though he shou.d have backed off. She also fucked up in calling him an asshat. It's obvious you don't do that on social media with a company linked account. Maybe if it was on facebook or something and she wasn't advertising she was a game dev then it'd be cool

He did back off, though. She kept fighting.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 1:50:23 PM
#314:


FrisbeeDude posted...
MrPeppers posted...
Can we just put the white noise of the gamer bros aside and have some real talk about the whole thing?


lmfao I cant even suggest her firing was an overreaction without being accused of excusing her actions because her gender. those cheering her firing dont want a discussion. they want to revel in their gotcha moment and are whiny because they don't have 100 percent agreement on their behavior

How was her firing an overreaction? Also, how do you think ArenaNet firing her was an overreaction if you think she fucked up?
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:05:06 PM
#315:


darkjedilink posted...
How was her firing an overreaction?

He's directly refused to answer that question when I asked. Just a flat out no.

Because he's trolling
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Questionmarktarius
07/11/18 2:10:55 PM
#316:


Moral of the story seems to be that Twitter itself is poisonous.
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DarthAragorn
07/11/18 2:11:30 PM
#317:


I think I'm gonna buy some extra character slots in GW2 just to support ArenaNet

hell, maybe ill buy another one in GW1 too
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:22:30 PM
#318:


the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:24:26 PM
#319:


FrisbeeDude posted...
to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

The CEO specifically denied this happened. Other than you wanting it to happen whats your evidence it did?
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:26:02 PM
#320:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

The CEO specifically denied this happened. Other than you wanting it to happen whats your evidence it did?


The CEO is lying/wrong/biased/corrupt

...now I can see why you guys are so quick to play that card lol
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:26:38 PM
#321:


FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:26:41 PM
#322:


So you have no evidence that it happened other than you wanting it to have happened.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:27:02 PM
#323:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.


ESPN
FOX
The NRA
MSNBC
The NFL/NBA/MLB
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:27:38 PM
#324:


FrisbeeDude posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

The CEO specifically denied this happened. Other than you wanting it to happen whats your evidence it did?


The CEO is lying/wrong/biased/corrupt

...now I can see why you guys are so quick to play that card lol

How so?
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:28:05 PM
#325:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.


ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:28:43 PM
#326:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.


ESPN
FOX
The NRA
MSNBC
The NFL/NBA/MLB

When did any of those companies attack their own customers?
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Deadpool_18
07/11/18 2:29:00 PM
#327:


Dragonblade01 posted...
I'm pretty sure that most any company would take issue with an employee who verbally harassed their customers, even if said customers were being assholes.


Seriously. This has nothing to do with....whatever youre trying to make this out to be.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:29:17 PM
#328:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.


ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?


ESPN personalities regularly clash with fans of the network on social media. This isnt breaking news
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dave_is_slick
07/11/18 2:29:45 PM
#329:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The CEO is lying/wrong/biased/corrupt

Goddamn you one stupid fool.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:29:48 PM
#330:


FrisbeeDude posted...
ESPN
FOX
The NRA
MSNBC
The NFL/NBA/MLB

You forgot mainstream games media.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:31:22 PM
#331:


dave_is_slick posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The CEO is lying/wrong/biased/corrupt

Goddamn you one stupid fool.


pretty much how I felt watching posters make the same accusation of several journalism outfits, prices' own peers and another gaming company
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:31:31 PM
#332:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.

ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?

ESPN personalities regularly clash with fans of the network on social media. This isnt breaking news

Link? Specifically, where a media personality insults their entire fanbase numerous times.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:32:36 PM
#333:


FrisbeeDude posted...
pretty much how I felt watching posters make the same accusation of several journalism outfits, prices' own peers and another gaming company

Difference is people can point out how those journalistic outlets are being one sided with examples. You're just saying the CEO is lying because thats the reality you want to live in.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:33:06 PM
#334:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.

ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?

ESPN personalities regularly clash with fans of the network on social media. This isnt breaking news

Link? Specifically, where a media personality insults their entire fanbase numerous times.


Google: Bomani Jones, then get back to me

edit: also, lol at the moving of the goal posts. Find examples of employers verbally assaulting customers turn into "insults their ENTIRE fanbase MULTIPLE times"
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Darksaber310
07/11/18 2:33:37 PM
#335:


It's a polygon article, they write exclusively about and in service to toxic identity politics, they're the Armond White of game journalism.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:33:47 PM
#336:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
pretty much how I felt watching posters make the same accusation of several journalism outfits, prices' own peers and another gaming company

Difference is people can point out how those journalistic outlets are being one sided with examples. You're just saying the CEO is lying because thats the reality you want to live in.


I didnt just list journalism outfits...
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:34:37 PM
#337:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.

ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?

ESPN personalities regularly clash with fans of the network on social media. This isnt breaking news

Link? Specifically, where a media personality insults their entire fanbase numerous times.


Google: Bomani Jones, then get back to me

You do it. You made the claim.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 2:35:11 PM
#338:


FrisbeeDude posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
pretty much how I felt watching posters make the same accusation of several journalism outfits, prices' own peers and another gaming company

Difference is people can point out how those journalistic outlets are being one sided with examples. You're just saying the CEO is lying because thats the reality you want to live in.

I didnt just list journalism outfits...

And? You still have zero proof of your claims. We have plenty.
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Cookie Bag
07/11/18 2:36:00 PM
#339:


Leanaunfurled posted...
You guys are still giving this Frisbee dude attention? o_O

When the clown makes a performance you laugh at it or throw shit at it, that's how it works around here.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:37:07 PM
#340:


FrisbeeDude posted...
I didnt just list journalism outfits...

They're the only ones I care about, though.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:37:20 PM
#341:


hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 2:37:54 PM
#342:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I didnt just list journalism outfits...

They're the only ones I care about, though.


good for you
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CyricZ
07/11/18 2:38:23 PM
#343:


Question:

What should be done about these anti-consumer people?

https://twitter.com/playasia/status/983652384290123776?lang=en
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 2:38:54 PM
#344:


FrisbeeDude posted...
good for you

I've not accused her friends and peers and whoever else of being one-sided or corrupt or lying or whatever you said. Why should I respond as if I had?

You've picked and chosen through this entire kerfuffle what to respond to and not and now you're using me choosing not to respond to every single piece of your post no matter how irrelevant it is to my point as an excuse to not respond to me while lambasting me for not responding to you.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 3:01:28 PM
#346:


@Conflict

you have the patience of a saint O.o
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 3:09:22 PM
#348:


GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:09:33 PM
#349:


Conflict posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
the language used doesn't warrant a firing. they've never had an issue with the demeanor of her tweets the time shes been there. suspend her use of social media (cowardly, but whatever), reaffirm your social media policy regarding employee interaction with fans. affirm he beliefs dont represent your company (cowardly again, but I'd get it)

to fire her because a cabal of angry gamerbros called for it is weak.

She never verbally attacked their own customers before. Like, you know that, right?

Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.


ESPN

When did ESPN attack their own viewers?


ESPN personalities regularly clash with fans of the network on social media. This isnt breaking news


Do you know the difference between arguing with someone and outright harassing them

I know you don't but I figured I'd ask that question anyway


A fan says they're no longer watching your network because of "X" Reason

You respond by encouraging them to do so/pointing out their sensitivity/giving them the email address with which to log their complaint in a passive aggressive manner, laugh at them or simply like their tweet with a blown up picture of their face

would you classify any of those as harassment? because they're examples of the biggest network in sports doing all of those
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:09:45 PM
#350:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist


examples?
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FLUFFYGERM
07/11/18 3:12:48 PM
#352:


FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist


examples?


What a hypocrite. People have argued far less flagrant things and you labeled them alt-right / white supremacists. Don't like the taste of your own brew brother?
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