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FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 6:43:08 PM #1:	https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/10/17550276/guild-wars-2-arenanet-firings-jessica-price-gamergate Nobody at Arenanet is safe from the hand of Reddit. Were literally running the company now, theyre in fear of the very users they seek to consort with ... The moment a dev steps out of line or try to talk back to a player, guess what, theyll know we got their hands on their throat and we can squeeze any time we like. This is part of a longer post on Reddit that went viral after Guild Wars 2 narrative designer Jessica Price was fired for a series of tweets she sent in response to a YouTuber, Deroir, who worked closely with developer ArenaNet. A co-worker of Prices, writer Peter Fries, was also fired for tweets supporting her. ArenaNets president, Mike OBrien, issued a statement on Guild Wars 2s forums stating that two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. OBriens statement is actively dangerous; it takes at face value bad-faith arguments made by aggrieved people online who may or may not be players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable, OBrien wrote of Fries and Price. As a result, theyre no longer with the company. Its not an accurate statement, and the precedent it sets is a bad one for gaming. Fans and developers bristling at each other on social media is a common fact of gaming, but what makes this situation so unique is OBriens inability to act like an adult. It might be a controversial thing to say right now, but Deroirs original tweet wasnt overtly offensive. Players who think they know more than they actually do about development are common, and the belief isnt always rooted in sexism. But Deroirs lack of empathy for what happened throughout this controversy is notable, as is his claim that hes a feminist. For that to be more than a word in a tweet, he should have understood how his tweet came off, and where Prices anger came from. Prices response to his tweet was more aggressive than the situation called for, but Deroirs tweet doesnt exist in a vacuum. Prices anger is the result of a long history of men in gaming who try to explain the jobs of women in development to them, and makes perfect sense in that context. While Deroir may not have been the worst example of that trend, his tweet definitely exists in the proud tradition of male gamers talking down to the women who make their games. Prices response makes perfect sense in that context, and is the sort of social media venting that is hardly seen as scandalous in 2018. So you have a tone-deaf player, and an exhausted developer who called a fan a rando asshat. The issue was then grabbed onto by some of the toxic communities in gaming that exist as GamerGate remnants, because women who dont talk to players with sufficient amounts of fealty make for tempting targets. None of this is particularly new in gaming, nor is any of it unexpected. another day, another boys club fighting against the "Tyranny" of feminists smfh --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904843474] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/10/17550276/guild-wars-2-arenanet-firings-jessica-price-gamergate Nobody at Arenanet is safe from the hand of Reddit. Were literally running the company now, theyre in fear of the very users they seek to consort with ... The moment a dev steps out of line or try to talk back to a player, guess what, theyll know we got their hands on their throat and we can squeeze any time we like. This is part of a longer post on Reddit that went viral after Guild Wars 2 narrative designer Jessica Price was fired for a series of tweets she sent in response to a YouTuber, Deroir, who worked closely with developer ArenaNet. A co-worker of Prices, writer Peter Fries, was also fired for tweets supporting her. ArenaNets president, Mike OBrien, issued a statement on Guild Wars 2s forums stating that two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. OBriens statement is actively dangerous; it takes at face value bad-faith arguments made by aggrieved people online who may or may not be players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable, OBrien wrote of Fries and Price. As a result, theyre no longer with the company. Its not an accurate statement, and the precedent it sets is a bad one for gaming. Fans and developers bristling at each other on social media is a common fact of gaming, but what makes this situation so unique is OBriens inability to act like an adult. It might be a controversial thing to say right now, but Deroirs original tweet wasnt overtly offensive. Players who think they know more than they actually do about development are common, and the belief isnt always rooted in sexism. But Deroirs lack of empathy for what happened throughout this controversy is notable, as is his claim that hes a feminist. For that to be more than a word in a tweet, he should have understood how his tweet came off, and where Prices anger came from. Prices response to his tweet was more aggressive than the situation called for, but Deroirs tweet doesnt exist in a vacuum. Prices anger is the result of a long history of men in gaming who try to explain the jobs of women in development to them, and makes perfect sense in that context. While Deroir may not have been the worst example of that trend, his tweet definitely exists in the proud tradition of male gamers talking down to the women who make their games. Prices response makes perfect sense in that context, and is the sort of social media venting that is hardly seen as scandalous in 2018. So you have a tone-deaf player, and an exhausted developer who called a fan a rando asshat. The issue was then grabbed onto by some of the toxic communities in gaming that exist as GamerGate remnants, because women who dont talk to players with sufficient amounts of fealty make for tempting targets. None of this is particularly new in gaming, nor is any of it unexpected. another day, another boys club fighting against the "Tyranny" of feminists smfh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 6:44:41 PM #2:	if it reinforced anything its that polygon and kotaku and other sites like it are fucking jokes --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904843565] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>if it reinforced anything its that polygon and kotaku and other sites like it are fucking jokes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/10/18 6:44:46 PM #3:	How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:904843573] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/10/18 6:44:56 PM #4:	Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:904843580] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlsGodDontBanMe 07/10/18 6:47:41 PM #6:	All this is proving, hilariously enough, is thst gamergaters had a point in how shitty gaming journalism is with how polygon and kotaku and other dumbfucks are defending her. Good job guys, youre giving the shitty sexists more ammo by screeching and reeing right alongside this woman. Also i do like how you got shitstomped in the original topic so you made a new one. Nice job bud --- https://giphy.com/gifs/4GXZU8qblNim9GmxnG PBRJax: Browns Baby <cite>PlsGodDontBanMe posted [p:904843733] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>All this is proving, hilariously enough, is thst gamergaters had a point in how shitty gaming journalism is with how polygon and kotaku and other dumbfucks are defending her. Good job guys, youre giving the shitty sexists more ammo by screeching and reeing right alongside this woman. Also i do like how you got shitstomped in the original topic so you made a new one. Nice job bud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 07/10/18 6:48:26 PM #7:	It seems liberalism leads to living a life of victimhood. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:904843777] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>It seems liberalism leads to living a life of victimhood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 6:55:20 PM #8:	according the gamergaters, any journalism outfit that doesn't 100 percent agree with them means they're shit...lmfao --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904844125] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>according the gamergaters, any journalism outfit that doesn't 100 percent agree with them means they're shit...lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 6:57:50 PM #9:	Or because they're knowingly misrepresenting this entire situation --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904844292] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Or because they're knowingly misrepresenting this entire situation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jorep 07/10/18 6:59:22 PM #11:	Just gonna leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUdf8EqnFSE" data-time=" TLDR she wasn't fired because of a "boys club" or anything to do with sexism. She was fired because she openly insulted and harassed her customers while representing her company. --- http://www.youtube.com/channeljorp - Catch me on Youtube https://www.twitch.tv/channeljorp - Or on the Twitch <cite>Jorep posted [p:904844378] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Just gonna leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUdf8EqnFSE" data-time=" TLDR she wasn't fired because of a "boys club" or anything to do with sexism. She was fired because she openly insulted and harassed her customers while representing her company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 6:59:43 PM #12:	is TC really Sillyknees? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904844400] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>is TC really Sillyknees?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 7:00:10 PM #13:	FLUFFYGERM posted... is TC really Sillyknees? sillyknees seemed a lot more literate, at least so i doubt it --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904844429] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>is TC really Sillyknees?</quote> sillyknees seemed a lot more literate, at least so i doubt it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 7:00:34 PM #15:	DarthAragorn posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... is TC really Sillyknees? sillyknees seemed a lot more literate, at least so i doubt it no he didnt --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904844448] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>is TC really Sillyknees?</quote> sillyknees seemed a lot more literate, at least so i doubt it</quote> no he didnt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Going_Deep_08 07/10/18 7:01:16 PM #16:	Stop linking to polygon!!! --- DO NOT DEFY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/LokFB <cite>Going_Deep_08 posted [p:904844494] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Stop linking to polygon!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jorep 07/10/18 7:03:49 PM #17:	Conflict posted... Jorep posted... Just gonna leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUdf8EqnFSE" data-time=" TLDR she wasn't fired because of a "boys club" or anything to do with sexism. She was fired because she openly insulted and harassed her customers while representing her company. Harassment is only a problem when altright idiots do it tho. Perfectly acceptable when women do it She was just so MAD because everyone kept trying to tell her how to do her job and she couldn't take it anymore! I think Jessica Price wanted us to treat her differently because she's a girl Which kind of goes against the entire point of feminism LOL --- http://www.youtube.com/channeljorp - Catch me on Youtube https://www.twitch.tv/channeljorp - Or on the Twitch <cite>Jorep posted [p:904844647] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jorep posted...</cite> <quote>Just gonna leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUdf8EqnFSE" data-time=" TLDR she wasn't fired because of a "boys club" or anything to do with sexism. She was fired because she openly insulted and harassed her customers while representing her company.</quote> Harassment is only a problem when altright idiots do it tho. Perfectly acceptable when women do it</quote> She was just so MAD because everyone kept trying to tell her how to do her job and she couldn't take it anymore! I think Jessica Price wanted us to treat her differently because she's a girl Which kind of goes against the entire point of feminism LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/10/18 7:06:46 PM #18:	I'm pretty sure that most any company would take issue with an employee who verbally harassed their customers, even if said customers were being assholes. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:904844799] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that most any company would take issue with an employee who verbally harassed their customers, even if said customers were being assholes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/10/18 7:13:08 PM #19:	Dragonblade01 posted... I'm pretty sure that most any company would take issue with an employee who verbally harassed their customers, even if said customers were being assholes. This, they become a liability. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:904845142] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure that most any company would take issue with an employee who verbally harassed their customers, even if said customers were being assholes.</quote> This, they become a liability.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/10/18 7:14:15 PM #20:	Yeah, it's gonna be annoying for a bit. There are a few petitions for firing "anti-consumer" game devs that have already popped up. It'll die down. People will get bored, or remember that the true enemy is not game devs but game journalism. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:904845193] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's gonna be annoying for a bit. There are a few petitions for firing "anti-consumer" game devs that have already popped up. It'll die down. People will get bored, or remember that the true enemy is not game devs but game journalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/10/18 7:16:24 PM #21:	I would literally be fired from any job I can think of if I got into a belligerent argument with a customer and called them an -ist. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:904845297] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>I would literally be fired from any job I can think of if I got into a belligerent argument with a customer and called them an -ist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_BIueMonk 07/10/18 7:19:14 PM #24:	i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!" --- DAHYUN = <3 https://i.imgtc.com/sNuiMQr.gif <cite>_BIueMonk posted [p:904845426] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 07/10/18 7:21:56 PM #25:	I'm glad everyone here is on the same page that whatever stupid shit TC posted is idiotic and wrong at least. --- https://imgtc.com/i/AuJKAON.gif https://imgtc.com/i/ScpGt0K.gif https://imgtc.com/i/L7oyUct.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/wwsMJDT.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:904845559] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>I'm glad everyone here is on the same page that whatever stupid shit TC posted is idiotic and wrong at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/10/18 7:22:05 PM #26:	TC hit a brick wall when he got called out in the other topic, so he tried to start fresh with this one. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:904845572] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>TC hit a brick wall when he got called out in the other topic, so he tried to start fresh with this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jorep 07/10/18 7:22:21 PM #27:	_BIueMonk posted... i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!" Good ol' Polygon. If anything is a "club" in the game industry it's the games journalism cabal that seeks to protect their own, even at the cost of any semblance, any shred of integrity. --- http://www.youtube.com/channeljorp - Catch me on Youtube https://www.twitch.tv/channeljorp - Or on the Twitch <cite>Jorep posted [p:904845593] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!"</quote> Good ol' Polygon. If anything is a "club" in the game industry it's the games journalism cabal that seeks to protect their own, even at the cost of any semblance, any shred of integrity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 07/10/18 7:22:42 PM #28:	TC is completely disconnected from reality. --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:904845613] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>TC is completely disconnected from reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 07/10/18 7:24:17 PM #29:	Fair, next and anyone who insults their own fanbase deserves to be shit canned, shame Disney Wars is allowed to insult the people that support them with no repercussions. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:904845704] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next and anyone who insults their own fanbase deserves to be shit canned, shame Disney Wars is allowed to insult the people that support them with no repercussions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 07/10/18 7:24:23 PM #30:	Yep. I will never click a polygon or kotaku link ever again in my life. Every click generates them money, i wont be the one to contribute to that. --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:904845712] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Yep. I will never click a polygon or kotaku link ever again in my life. Every click generates them money, i wont be the one to contribute to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
devilminion 07/10/18 7:24:51 PM #31:	_BIueMonk posted... i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!" And because it needs reinforcing, here is the "mansplainer" that Jessica decided to blow up against Metro2 posted... Clip of Deroir before the incident, talking about how much he admire's Jessica Price: https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMistyStingrayDxCat --- All Hail https://i.imgtc.com/ciJZMEL.gif <cite>devilminion posted [p:904845745] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!"</quote> And because it needs reinforcing, here is the "mansplainer" that Jessica decided to blow up against <cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>Clip of Deroir before the incident, talking about how much he admire's Jessica Price: https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMistyStingrayDxCat</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/10/18 7:26:07 PM #32:	Highwind07 posted... The guy asked a question nicely and he got a nasty reply in return. That was bad for business so there's that. That's not an accurate representation of what happened. The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist. The fact of the matter is god damn socially inept gamers have been telling developers how to do their jobs since motherfucking Pong. She went straight to an accusation with no evidence whatsoever and then got nasty about defending her position online. It's fucking Twitter. You don't like what someone is saying then fucking block them and get on with your life. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:904845817] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Highwind07 posted...</cite> <quote>The guy asked a question nicely and he got a nasty reply in return. That was bad for business so there's that.</quote> That's not an accurate representation of what happened. The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist. The fact of the matter is god damn socially inept gamers have been telling developers how to do their jobs since motherfucking Pong. She went straight to an accusation with no evidence whatsoever and then got nasty about defending her position online. It's fucking Twitter. You don't like what someone is saying then fucking block them and get on with your life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 07/10/18 7:28:20 PM #33:	devilminion posted... _BIueMonk posted... i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!" And because it needs reinforcing, here is the "mansplainer" that Jessica decided to blow up against Metro2 posted... Clip of Deroir before the incident, talking about how much he admire's Jessica Price: https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMistyStingrayDxCat I bet he hates her now. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:904845951] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>devilminion posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>i read all her tweets, and the other dudes too. the sexism thing really came out of no where. the guy was just being a typical internet person on twitter and tweeting at someone who worked on a game he liked. but she flipped out and was like "IM A WOMAN AND NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO. LEAST OF ALL TWITTERS ON MY PRIVATE ACCOUNT!" "but your account is public. and you're talking about video games" "MANSPLAINER!!! SHUT UP! MEN ARE THE DEVIL!" it seemed like polygon chose to ignore that and just was like "WHAT A WOMAN IN DISTRESS!!! LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE TRUMP!"</quote> And because it needs reinforcing, here is the "mansplainer" that Jessica decided to blow up against <cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>Clip of Deroir before the incident, talking about how much he admire's Jessica Price: https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMistyStingrayDxCat</quote></quote> I bet he hates her now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PlsGodDontBanMe 07/10/18 7:30:29 PM #34:	Tyranthraxus posted... The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job no he didn't. He posted another way to look at how the story and character could be written, which people do all the fucking time when it comes to MMO's or big online games in general. WoW and Riot Devs actually pride themselves on having lore and character discussions with their communities, because they see it as an opportunity to either better themselves and their writing, or to look at things from a fan's perspective and try to incorporate that. He didn't "rant" he posted everything very concise and respectfully. She got pissy because she felt it was an attack on her writing and instead of trying to be polite and having a good discussion with one of the biggest community managers, decided to screech about muh sexism. --- https://giphy.com/gifs/4GXZU8qblNim9GmxnG PBRJax: Browns Baby <cite>PlsGodDontBanMe posted [p:904846059] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job</quote> no he didn't. He posted another way to look at how the story and character could be written, which people do all the fucking time when it comes to MMO's or big online games in general. WoW and Riot Devs actually pride themselves on having lore and character discussions with their communities, because they see it as an opportunity to either better themselves and their writing, or to look at things from a fan's perspective and try to incorporate that. He didn't "rant" he posted everything very concise and respectfully. She got pissy because she felt it was an attack on her writing and instead of trying to be polite and having a good discussion with one of the biggest community managers, decided to screech about muh sexism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 07/10/18 7:31:25 PM #36:	Tyranthraxus posted... The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist. It's so blatantly obvious you didn't actually read the tweets in question. --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:904846113] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist.</quote> It's so blatantly obvious you didn't actually read the tweets in question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 07/10/18 7:31:45 PM #37:	Yeah just re-checked the tweet, and after the tweets, instead of taking a "I agree/disagree" attitude with the guy who wrote all that, she just went "hurr thanks for letting me know how we work dude" --- https://imgtc.com/i/AuJKAON.gif https://imgtc.com/i/ScpGt0K.gif https://imgtc.com/i/L7oyUct.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/wwsMJDT.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:904846131] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Yeah just re-checked the tweet, and after the tweets, instead of taking a "I agree/disagree" attitude with the guy who wrote all that, she just went "hurr thanks for letting me know how we work dude"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/10/18 7:36:17 PM #38:	Tyranthraxus posted... Highwind07 posted... The guy asked a question nicely and he got a nasty reply in return. That was bad for business so there's that. That's not an accurate representation of what happened. The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist. The fact of the matter is god damn socially inept gamers have been telling developers how to do their jobs since motherfucking Pong. She went straight to an accusation with no evidence whatsoever and then got nasty about defending her position online. It's fucking Twitter. You don't like what someone is saying then fucking block them and get on with your life. He didn't tell her how to do her job. She opened up a thread about why player characters in MMO can't be made compelling from a writing perspective. He disagreed with her reason. That she took it as him telling her how to do her job just means that she doesn't know how to write characters any other way than the un-compelling version she's currently using and the idea that there is another way is to her mind like saying she's doing a shit job. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:904846382] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Highwind07 posted...</cite> <quote>The guy asked a question nicely and he got a nasty reply in return. That was bad for business so there's that.</quote> That's not an accurate representation of what happened. The guy dumped a small rant about how she should be doing her job. She got offended which is well within her right. The issue changes at this point when she turned around and blamed it on him being sexist. The fact of the matter is god damn socially inept gamers have been telling developers how to do their jobs since motherfucking Pong. She went straight to an accusation with no evidence whatsoever and then got nasty about defending her position online. It's fucking Twitter. You don't like what someone is saying then fucking block them and get on with your life.</quote> He didn't tell her how to do her job. She opened up a thread about why player characters in MMO can't be made compelling from a writing perspective. He disagreed with her reason. That she took it as him telling her how to do her job just means that she doesn't know how to write characters any other way than the un-compelling version she's currently using and the idea that there is another way is to her mind like saying she's doing a shit job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fluttershy462 07/10/18 7:37:43 PM #39:	Huh? Why is there still drama about this? If youre that toxic on social media and it I relevant to your place of work, it is grounds for corrective action, even being terminated from the company. --- Now hyped for: Pokemon Pikachu and Eevee Let's Go https://a4r91n.deviantart.com/art/Tovarischa-Fluttershy-477656032 <cite>Fluttershy462 posted [p:904846473] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Huh? Why is there still drama about this? If youre that toxic on social media and it I relevant to your place of work, it is grounds for corrective action, even being terminated from the company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 07/10/18 7:39:08 PM #40:	dave_is_slick posted... How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees? lol sillyknees was way better than garbage frisbeedude --- https://imgur.com/5UL2v5u "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:904846550] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees?</quote> lol sillyknees was way better than garbage frisbeedude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
devilminion 07/10/18 7:39:43 PM #41:	Fluttershy462 posted... Huh? Why is there still drama about this? Because Polygon decided to double-down and post another article about it today, specifically to defend their damsel in distress. --- All Hail https://i.imgtc.com/ciJZMEL.gif <cite>devilminion posted [p:904846587] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fluttershy462 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? Why is there still drama about this?</quote> Because Polygon decided to double-down and post another article about it today, specifically to defend their damsel in distress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 7:41:53 PM #42:	Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904846709] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 07/10/18 7:42:26 PM #43:	TC getting fucking bodied in his own topic --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:904846741] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>TC getting fucking bodied in his own topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 7:43:57 PM #45:	VectorChaos posted... TC getting fucking bodied in his own topic Even by his far left allies lmao He dun goofed --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904846839] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>TC getting fucking bodied in his own topic</quote> Even by his far left allies lmao He dun goofed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 7:44:22 PM #46:	devilminion posted... Fluttershy462 posted... Huh? Why is there still drama about this? Because Polygon decided to double-down and post another article about it today, specifically to defend their damsel in distress. the neckbeard is strong in this post --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904846857] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>devilminion posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fluttershy462 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? Why is there still drama about this?</quote> Because Polygon decided to double-down and post another article about it today, specifically to defend their damsel in distress.</quote> the neckbeard is strong in this post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 07/10/18 7:44:30 PM #48:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is? The controversy brought me back after a 4 year break and I bought the expansions today. So yes. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:904846865] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is?</quote> The controversy brought me back after a 4 year break and I bought the expansions today. So yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 7:46:19 PM #49:	ThePrinceFish posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is? The controversy brought me back after a 4 year break and I bought the expansions today. So yes. I'm gonna buy it for the first time ever even if I never get around to playing it. They deserve my money. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904846962] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone else going to buy Guild Wars 2 and all the expansions after seeing how professional and effective ArenaNet is?</quote> The controversy brought me back after a 4 year break and I bought the expansions today. So yes.</quote> I'm gonna buy it for the first time ever even if I never get around to playing it. They deserve my money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myztikrice 07/10/18 7:46:32 PM #50:	lol at one of the article authors being even more of a goober in the comments --- "Why are you always smiling?" "'Cause it's all so f***in' hysterical." <cite>myztikrice posted [p:904846969] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>lol at one of the article authors being even more of a goober in the comments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/10/18 7:50:35 PM #51:	Of course white knights are taking up arms, ridiculous. Bitch was berating customers. Fair, next --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904847195] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Of course white knights are taking up arms, ridiculous. Bitch was berating customers. Fair, next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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