Poll of the Day > My friends babies momma family doesn't celebrate July 4th

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yutterh
07/04/18 6:16:08 AM
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Because in 1776, their were slaves -_- cause it was founded for the white people not the black people.
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TheCyborgNinja
07/04/18 6:18:26 AM
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The slaves would've been freed much earlier had treason against King George III been unsuccessful. Black people seem to get a much fairer shake in the UK than America. They're not wrong.
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Dikitain
07/04/18 7:00:52 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
The slaves would've been freed much earlier had treason against King George III been unsuccessful. Black people seem to get a much fairer shake in the UK than America. They're not wrong.

Except for the fact that the south was being funded and supplied by the UK during the Civil War, making them supporters of slavery.
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HillChange
07/04/18 8:45:24 AM
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They need to politely be reminded that were it not for the slave trade, they probably wouldn't even exist, let alone be residents of the USA. Unless, of course, their ancestors immigrated post-Civil War. But then that would make this particular complaint about slavery kinda moot.
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adjl
07/04/18 10:27:04 AM
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Dikitain posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
The slaves would've been freed much earlier had treason against King George III been unsuccessful. Black people seem to get a much fairer shake in the UK than America. They're not wrong.

Except for the fact that the south was being funded and supplied by the UK during the Civil War, making them supporters of slavery.


If we say that the civil war was about slavery, sure. If we acknowledge that slavery was just one of many issues in play, not so much.
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TES_Nut
07/04/18 11:08:08 AM
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Dikitain posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
The slaves would've been freed much earlier had treason against King George III been unsuccessful. Black people seem to get a much fairer shake in the UK than America. They're not wrong.

Except for the fact that the south was being funded and supplied by the UK during the Civil War, making them supporters of slavery.


No they didn't. the UK continuously blew off all ambassadors the csa sent and never recognized them as a biligerent state. France wouldn't because they didn't want to piss off England. The only European power that was even mildly sympathetic was Russia. Read Shelby Foote.
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Zikten
07/04/18 11:13:08 AM
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didn't the UK buy and sell the slaves from africa, to americans? I thought it was british people who actually got them out of africa and then took them to america for sale. the UK wasn't actually innocent. they outlawed slavery inside the homeland. but they still did it throughout their empire.
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TES_Nut
07/04/18 11:59:12 AM
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Zikten posted...
didn't the UK buy and sell the slaves from africa, to americans? I thought it was british people who actually got them out of africa and then took them to america for sale. the UK wasn't actually innocent. they outlawed slavery inside the homeland. but they still did it throughout their empire.


International trade was already abolished before the war started.
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Zareth
07/04/18 11:59:57 AM
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It was Britain's massive hard-on for Imperialism that basically made the slave trade what it was.
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adjl
07/04/18 12:07:05 PM
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TES_Nut posted...
France [...] didn't want to piss off England.


I don't think there's been a single point in history where this was true.
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Zareth
07/04/18 12:15:26 PM
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adjl posted...
TES_Nut posted...
France [...] didn't want to piss off England.


I don't think there's been a single point in history where this was true.

Pissing off England is basically France's national pastime.
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TES_Nut
07/04/18 12:19:33 PM
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Zareth posted...
adjl posted...
TES_Nut posted...
France [...] didn't want to piss off England.


I don't think there's been a single point in history where this was true.

Pissing off England is basically France's national pastime.


Napolion III was kinda a pussy
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TaKun782
07/04/18 12:28:48 PM
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And yet here we are, we kissed and made up over the passage of time instead of acting like a bunch of deadbeats.
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Dikitain
07/04/18 3:02:14 PM
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TES_Nut posted...
No they didn't. the UK continuously blew off all ambassadors the csa sent and never recognized them as a biligerent state.

That is a gross understatement of what actually happened. While they didn't recognize them as a nation or exchange ambassadors, they did recognize them as an independent entity and, more importantly, allowed trade of munitions and luxuries to the CSA. They even financed the blockade runners to get past the USA Navy to get those goods in the hands of CSA soldiers.

TES_Nut posted...
Read Shelby Foote.

I did, that is how I knew that happened. You can even read this which came out around the same time:

https://www.questia.com/read/62913658/great-britain-and-the-american-civil-war
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MICHALECOLE
07/04/18 3:07:47 PM
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Who cares if your friends baby momma does or does not celebrate 4th of July?

Why do you care?

WHY?!
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yutterh
07/04/18 4:26:06 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Who cares if your friends baby momma does or does not celebrate 4th of July?

Why do you care?

WHY?!


Cause it seemed like a ridiculous statement lol he brought it up since it was fourth of July.
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MICHALECOLE
07/04/18 5:55:18 PM
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You really think its that ridiculous of a statement? Would native Americans not celebrating Columbus Day also be a ridiculous statement?
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yutterh
07/04/18 5:57:22 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
You really think its that ridiculous of a statement? Would native Americans not celebrating Columbus Day also be a ridiculous statement?


No one celebrates colombus day anymore, we all found out he was a monster. Also not all Africans were slaves and not all slaves were African. Then you have to remember that not all Americans were slave owners and the North abolished it pretty soon after anyways. It was mainly the south that fought for it. We had a whole civil war over it. That ideology just doesn't happen overnight. Independence waa fought for all men black or white.
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MICHALECOLE
07/04/18 6:00:16 PM
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Okay

And?
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yutterh
07/04/18 6:01:06 PM
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Sorry I pressed enter too quickly I edited lol
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green dragon
07/04/18 6:03:16 PM
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hey, other potd black people, I want you to laugh at this topic!
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yutterh
07/04/18 6:08:55 PM
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green dragon posted...
hey, other potd black people, I want you to laugh at this topic!


I'm black >_>
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TheWorstPoster
07/04/18 6:10:34 PM
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Free blacks were also legally allowed to own slaves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States#Black_slaveholders

And yet, nobody is willing to admit that
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green dragon
07/04/18 6:14:07 PM
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yutterh posted...
green dragon posted...
hey, other potd black people, I want you to laugh at this topic!


I'm black >_>

then you should know better

lmao jk. first comment was just a joke
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AbsoluteDenial
07/04/18 6:52:49 PM
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Glad my family never raised me to be like that, all angsty over what happened to my ancestors. I'd much rather have this life than the alternatives if they weren't brought over here... y'know, living in Africa instead or never being born.
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yutterh
07/04/18 7:02:08 PM
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green dragon posted...
yutterh posted...
green dragon posted...
hey, other potd black people, I want you to laugh at this topic!


I'm black >_>

then you should know better

lmao jk. first comment was just a joke


It's okay I'm only half black hahahha I'm half black half Mexican sprinkled with French, Dutch, and Irish. But I'm all American baby.
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